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TCU National Champs.

gatorshime

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OSU should never had made the playoff. The committee showed its big ten leaning by punishing a team for winning? Imagine if they did that to #3 OSU. So if you lose do it early and run up scores all you can. TCU won its last 3 145-16 and beat a SEC West team Ole Miss 42-3. They would beat OSU by 14.

This post was edited on 1/14 5:52 PM by gatorshime
 
Originally posted by gatorshime:
OSU should never had made the playoff. The committee showed its big ten leaning by punishing a team for winning? Imagine if they did that to #3 OSU. So if you lose do it early and run up scores all you can. TCU won its last 3 145-16 and beat a SEC West team Ole Miss 42-3. They would beat OSU by 14.

This post was edited on 1/14 5:52 PM by gatorshime
Dude, OSU beat the #2, #4, #5 and #13 in the final poll, all away from home. Its hard to argue against their accomplishments. TCU lost to the only quality team on their schedule.
 
Originally posted by Michi-Gator:

Originally posted by gatorshime:
OSU should never had made the playoff. The committee showed its big ten leaning by punishing a team for winning? Imagine if they did that to #3 OSU. So if you lose do it early and run up scores all you can. TCU won its last 3 145-16 and beat a SEC West team Ole Miss 42-3. They would beat OSU by 14.

This post was edited on 1/14 5:52 PM by gatorshime
Dude, OSU beat the #2, #4, #5 and #13 in the final poll, all away from home. Its hard to argue against their accomplishments. TCU lost to the only quality team on their schedule.
Not to mention they did it with their #3 QB.

OSU's SOS was 29th to TCU's 51st.
 
FSU shouldn't have been in, but no one in their right mind is going to leave the undefeated and reigning national champs out of the playoffs.
 
Originally posted by Dannygator1989:
FSU shouldn't have been in, but no one in their right mind is going to leave the undefeated and reigning national champs out of the playoffs.
On the fence...FSU rarely looked good, but they did manage to go undefeated against the #21 SOS and you're 100% correct they weren't getting left out as reigning champs (which is irrelevant IMO) and undefeated.

Playoffs got it 90% right. The only unanswered question is who's better between OSU and TCU. I still think OSU based on what they did against real competition.
 
Originally posted by sadgator:
Anybody who thinks TCU could have done what Ohio State did over their last 3 games and/or in the playoffs needs to have their college football watching license revoked permanently. The committee got it 100% correct.
I'm sure TCU could've done what f$u did too....
 
So TCU couldn't have played better than Bama and Oregon did? lol ok
 
People forget TCU was actually #6 because of their loss to Baylor. From a committee standpoint, the TCU loss to Baylor basically made them a non-issue. They lost the one game they couldn't.
 
The point is people are acting like TCU is somehow inferior to the playoff teams other than FSU now.. When all was said and done it was evident they were one of the best teams and could have won the whole thing with that defense, they ended up being the only team that played any by the end of the year and their offense was clicking at a high level.
 
Originally posted by 46885:
The point is people are acting like TCU is somehow inferior to the playoff teams other than FSU now.. When all was said and done it was evident they were one of the best teams and could have won the whole thing with that defense, they ended up being the only team that played any by the end of the year and their offense was clicking at a high level.
OSU one loss to VaTach....TCU one loss to Baylor....Oregon one loss to Ari....Bama one loss to Ole Miss....FSU no losses, but no great wins either....lots of arguments to be made, and based on post season play TCU still stacks up
 
Tcu was good, but they don't have a Ben rothlisberger clone at quarterback, ezekial elliott, or a whole d line of 1st round draft picks like osu does.
 
and what Bud Foster does on defense is similar to what Gary does at TCU, it would have given all the teams in the playoffs hell. Oregon had the single worst scheme Ive ever seen in 28 years of living and FSU was pathetic on that side of the ball all year. OSU wasn't much better sitting in a base 4-2-5 all game long and giving up huge yards and was one of the worst all season in 3rd and short situations.. Alabama had a stout front four but the rest of their defense was a shell of it's usual self, those DB's are either not coached anymore since Pruitt left or they are all EXTREMELY overrated while BAma signs the number one class every year. Which is funny because that's Sabans hands on material, FSU also experienced this drop off tremendously at that position after Pruitt left. I sadly, expect UGA to improve dramatically on that side of the ball next year.
 
What did TCU do, really? They beat:

- SMU, Samford, Texas Tech, Iowa State - nothing so far.
- Misnnesota. Er, ok. So?
- Okla State, Iowa State, Kanasa, Texas? All medioce. Still nothing.
- Okla.- They beat this 8-5 team, who just fired their offensive staff, by only 4 points.
- West Va. They beat 7-6 WVU.
- KState. TCU beat this 9-4 team, who lost to 9-4 SEC Auburn.
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- Baylor. TCU Lost to Baylor, giving up 61 points! Baylor lost their bowl.

- TCU played NOBODY in its conference championship game, because they don't have one. They didnt play a 13th regular season game at all. They sat at home on the sofa while all of the other conference contenders were increasing their strength of schedule by playing a 13th game agaist their other division champion.

- TCU, who was declared conference co-champion of the Big 12, beat Ole Miss, true. Ole Miss., who was not SEC champion, not the Western division champion...not even the Division runner up. Ole Miss. was third in the division, or about the sixth best team in the SEC, having experienced some debilitating injuries mid-way througH the season.

I am just not seeing any legitimate Top ten vistories by TCU, and they lost their single tough hand.think they would look against Ohio State much the way Oregon looked.
 
is that while you are comparing their schedule to Ohio States during the season? Urban did exactly what he left for this year, play one big game out of 12 a year then get your team ready to only play two more big games.. I bet many are under the impression they could have taken Bamas schedule and still won the Playoff.
 
I do believe TCU was the best team in the country, but oh well. I knew this would happen. Anybody who thought a team like TCU or Baylor was getting in over a blue blood like Ohio St. just wasn't paying attention. This playoff is much more about money than even the BCS. They're gonna select the 4 teams with the largest fanbases who will travel to all these sites if everything else is perceived to be equal.

Ohio St. proved they belong by going out and beating the teams ahead of them, BUT it's like people forgot that the Big 10 was batting like .200 against the other Power 5 conferences. They got destroyed all season OOC but then all of a sudden a team winning that conference is meaningful? I don't understand the double standard. But again, they earned the title so can't take anything away from em.
 
Sad has an Urban Meyer blowup doll. Still not as nice as my Chip Kelly doll though.
 
Originally posted by oozie7:
BUT it's like people forgot that the Big 10 was batting like .200 against the other Power 5 conferences. They got destroyed all season OOC but then all of a sudden a team winning that conference is meaningful? I don't understand the double standard.
Agree 100%. I have B1G homers for in-laws. Their banter during bowl season has been hilarious. When Ohio State beat Bama, all of a sudden that conference became a bunch of world beaters. It's still a crap conference.
 
Originally posted by oozie7:
Sad has an Urban Meyer blowup doll. Still not as nice as my Chip Kelly doll though.
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The probability is high that both of these are actually true.
 
Originally posted by Dannygator1989:
It's no funnier than how obsessed you are with worshipping Meyer like a sex Goddess.
LOL...sad missed the irony in his own post.

While Numbers might look for Urban under his bed out of fear, Sadgator looks for Urban under his sheets out of hope.
 
Real simple answer why OSU got in. The BIG 12 cut their own throats. If you've spent much time on their boards, you know exactly where I'm coming from. The 4 teams currently in the playoffs are all OUTRIGHT conference champions. Who would you pick from the BIG 12 ? TCU ? They lost head-to-head to Baylor and in previous college seasons, the conference co-champion (Baylor-TCU) that won the head-to-head was selected for the more illustrious bowl. It happened just a few years ago when OSU and Penn State were co-champs with identical records. PSU was selected for the better bowl (I believe the Rose) and deservedly so. Their mess and confusion this year just made it easier on the committee. Go on one of their boards and ask them who their conference champion is. You see a big division

The reason that the BIG 12 doesn't have a conference championship game is by NCAA laws/regulations, you must have 12 teams for a championship game. They have only 10 conference members. Well, the BIG 12 had twelve members at one time and could have had a conference championship game, but schools are trying to leave that conference more than trying to join it. And a lot of the current members/smaller schools point the finger at Texas noting their greed. What, just a few years Texas A&M, Nebraska, Missouri, and Colorado were all very solid members. Don't have to tell you what happened. Not getting into all of the Texas greed because I don't know the full story just repeating what all of us have heard from other sources. Now there's talk of at Memphis and Cincinnati entering. Are they kidding ? Probably just rumours, but....I really believe that conference is standing on its last leg and will fold within the next couple of years. As mentioned, the dumbasses in the BIG 12 made it easy for the OSU selection.
 
Lol. If sadgator was inclinded to live an alternative lifestyle, he might consider Urban, but unfortunately, Urban's heart is likely not strong enough for sex.

Can't argue with that. But I have the feeling that his heart is strong enough to lift that NC trophy at our upcoming celebration.
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Originally posted by sadgator:

Lol. If sadgator was inclinded to live an alternative lifestyle, he might consider Urban, but unfortunately, Urban's heart is likely not strong enough for sex.
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What is TCU's marquee victory? Ohio St beat better teams than TCU did, and played a stronger schedule overall. Not arguing that TCU wasn't very good, they were, but OhioSt's resume' was better, and they certainly proved they deserved it. Maybe TCU should have been in over FSU, but it's hard to leave an undefeated defending NC out. If you want to say TCU is ranked 2nd, I would have no problem with that.
 
Originally posted by sadgator:
Anybody who thinks TCU could have done what Ohio State did over their last 3 games and/or in the playoffs needs to have their college football watching license revoked permanently. The committee got it 100% correct.
Absolutely, people need to take off the hate Meyer blinders and realize what just got done. A 3rd STRING QUARTERBACK JUST GOT COACHED UP TO WIN THE NATIONAL TITLE. THATS ALL ABOUT COACHING FOLKS, and it's NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE!!!!!!!!!!!! Did I forget the PERIOD? Oops...................
 
I think the real point is that TCU was ranked 3rd (though it can be argued that Baylor should have had that spot since they beat them) and not only dropped, but dropped to 6th.
 
Originally posted by Dannygator1989:
I think the real point is that TCU was ranked 3rd (though it can be argued that Baylor should have had that spot since they beat them) and not only dropped, but dropped to 6th.
Good point. That was the one big flaw in the entire ranking process this season. In sadgator's opinion TCU never should have jumped to third, and once they did, they shouldn't have dropped as far as they did. That dropping of TCU in the final ranking after they won made no logical sense. sadgator thought Baylor should have gotten the fourth spot over OSU (given their win over TCU), in which case, we obviously would have never seen how great OSU really was.

There needs to be better predictability in the up and down movement in rankings or people will have no confidence in it. If that happens, the system will not work. Fortunately for the committee, they hit a homerun with the way the playoffs played out.

This post was edited on 1/16 9:55 AM by sadgator
 
Originally posted by sadgator:
Originally posted by Dannygator1989:
I think the real point is that TCU was ranked 3rd (though it can be argued that Baylor should have had that spot since they beat them) and not only dropped, but dropped to 6th.
Good point. That was the one big flaw in the entire ranking process this season. In sadgator's opinion TCU never should have jumped to third, and once they did, they shouldn't have dropped as far as they did. That dropping of TCU in the final ranking after they won made no logical sense. sadgator thought Baylor should have gotten the fourth spot over OSU (given their win over TCU), in which case, we obviously would have never seen how great OSU really was.

There needs to be better predictability in the up and down movement in rankings or people will have no confidence in it. If that happens, the system will not work[/B]. Fortunately for the committee, they hit a homerun with the way the playoffs played out.

This post was edited on 1/16 9:55 AM by sadgator
Ummmm that's kinda what the people asked for when they decided to let a committee make decisions. Like I said before the season, it's insane to me that we've let these people and their opinions (which can and did change week to week) be the SOLE decider of the 4 teams in the playoffs. My opinion, it should be a 50/50 or 1/3 type of thing. Computer rankings have a third, coaches polls have a third, and then the committee has a third. That way you have multiple viewpoints.
 
FSU (the team that was undefeated and played nobody) is why we need to go to 8 teams.

Yes, yes, many of you will respond that "no matter how many teams are in, there will be complaints". And I 100% AGREE with that. But when there are 4 teams, you can still have lesser but undefeated teams keep out better but non-undefeated teams. The reason being that the argument of "they did all that was asked of them" always surfaces in late November.

There are too many teams in CFB to make certain every team has a couple of quality opponents on their schedule. But with 8 you have enough slots that you can get in the once beaten but battle tested and the undefeated but untested ones as well. You could slot in all the Power 6 conference champs plus two wild cards. You could do a lot of things.

Even if you eliminate the bottom half of 1-A, and only consider the power 6 plus a couple, you are looking at 64 teams, which means 4 participants equates to 1 out of 16. If pro teams went 1 out of 16, they would have only the super bowl, only the world series, only the NBA finals. Would you feel confident the best teams were playing in those games with no playoff path to work through?
 
Originally posted by sadgator:
Originally posted by 46885:
someone called Ohio state great lol
Who, in your opinion, was greater?
absolutely no one, NO ONE could even spell great this year.. This was the most down year of college ball I can ever remember, and the end just completely proved it. That Championship game was an embarrassment to good football on defense, one team just sat there in a one man front and the other in a 4-2-5 prevent and looked less worse because of the other pathetically coached team. Like I said, I will NEVER live it down for Bama fans ever again for that choke job in the Sugar bowl, two years in a row. Any time a team gets 87 #1 ranked classes in a row and can't even beat a Big ten team much less DEMOLISH them has an overrated staff and players, especially because everyone talks about Nick like he's Bear and Lombardi still alive. Everyone really doesn't understand how much of a pathetic gag that was to lose to that team with that much more depth and talent, even Urban was about to order pizza inn for the 2nd quarter and knew they were f***ed. Bama choked and I will never let them say shit ever again without bringing it up as a fanbase. That was sabans worst loss since UL Monroe and set it up for that soft Oregon team to make anyone but FSU look like heroes, like they always do. Oregon plays little man football and lost their DC of like 30 years at the worst time, FSU only lost because they couldn't stop anything all year and they just kept tossing the ball to the one man fronts on the ground without anyone forcing them.
 
They (Big 10) got destroyed all season OOC but then all of a sudden a team winning that conference is meaningful? I don't understand the double standard. But again, they earned the title so can't take anything away from em.

The Big 10 sure seemed to do alright in the bowls though, didn't they ? Talk is cheap on message boards. Back your claim on the field. The Big 10 had wins over Alabama, Auburn, Oregon, and Baylor. Yeah, the same Baylor who won the head to head against TCU and tied them for the conference championship. And yet everyone is pushing TCU as a team that got screwed in the Big 12 (or whatever the hell they're called now) ! How about Baylor ?
 
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