Fair enough, I seriously didn't know how much weight a QB put on. With a new lifting program and the fact that he is starting to grow into his "man" body, 28 lbs. or so doesn't seem all that much.
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Fair enough, I seriously didn't know how much weight a QB put on. With a new lifting program and the fact that he is starting to grow into his "man" body, 28 lbs. or so doesn't seem all that much.
I am not one to call for bans, but it is time for this ass and a few others to take a vacation
Not at all happy about the news today, but if we lose some nole troll over it, that is at least a small silver lining.
I don't care what they list him as, he ain't anywhere near 215 lbs., I'd guess he's about 190 tops. Grier is extremely lean and lanky.
This. He has had 20 months to put on 30-35 lbs. Not outside of the ordinary, particularly since he didn't play last year.
Not if they didn't know he was taking it. It's on him to ask the medical staff questions b4 he takes something.
My gut feeling at this point is that it wasn't just some flu medicine he took for a couple of days. That doesn't make sense.
Close to that, what's unusual about that? A lot of players do that once they're in college and working out
I realize that there has to be a line in the sand when it comes to PED's but there should also be some consideration if it's what it seems to be. Seems a bit egregious IMO.
You guys need to man up and deal with the consequences of your player's decision. FSU has nothing to do with this.
Crab legs are OTC too. Gotta take your medicine like FSU did.
But Jameis didn't go to the counter, he avoided it...
I agree, a few years back UK had Jeremy Jarmon suspended for PEDs....He was able to buy the supplement at GNC, while I understand he should have known or inquired about them, it seems unfair that anything you can buy off a shelf at GNC is illegal in the NCAAs eyes...
No doubt...it's on the player...I think that everyone knows that. My point is that this seems to be a pretty minor thing to get suspended for the rest of the year over.
The NCAA protocol is when a test is failed, the school is notified and a second test is run on a second sample. The suspension is not required until after notification that the second sample tested positive, which was SUnday.
You can read it for yourself HERE if you want (Section 8, specifically 8.2.3.2). Sorry if this does not fit your narrative.
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Because as we know, the NCAA regularly monitors the FSU boards for breaking information like this.
He avoided the checkout line. The counter was where he got the fresh, delicious Publix seafood.
Not rubbing it in here but wondering what you guys think if the suspension sticks. He's obviously better than Treon, I had you guys whipping us(FSU) with Grier playing. Let's say Treon starts off pretty good next year and you're 5-1 when Grier becomes eligible. Then what, does Grier stick around and hope Treon stumbles or gets hurt. I hate it for you guys, my business partner is a Gator and some epic trash talk had already started. I picked you to beat Tenn and Ole Miss and honestly thought you'd be unbeaten when we came to town. Not so sure now although it seems like Foley lucked into a good coach.
Why not worry about your POS team and let the Gator fans worry about who our QB will be. You won't be undefeated when you roll into the Swamp and we may not be undefeated either but we will beat your ass. You can take that one to the bank. You're also right about one other thing. We have a good coach but it wasn't luck. Just like Meyer, Mac will own your ass too.
Grier has taken responsibility for what he did and will live with the consequences.....Yeah taking a OTC supplement is worse than stealing crab legs and being accused of rape. Both times that POS got off because your sorry ass fan base paid for his attorney.
I don't know what you're talking about paying for his attorney, but I can assure you igloo & I paid off the Cook jury.
Point of fact: Winston did not " got off" for the crablegs. He paid Publix, was given the standard civil citation and did comm. service like anyone else - then additionally since he was a scholarship athlete he was suspended for two games. As far as any accusations, I'm not sure since the Judge found no honor code violation and the SA declined to file charges, there is nothing for him to get off of legally . Matthew Thomas, our LB. is likely a much closer analogy to bring up regarding Will Grier. He got caught failing the NCAA pot test in the playoffs--- even though he was not playing, even though pot is legal there, and even though NCAA leaves pot testing to the institutions all year--- they nailed him for the full year. Hope Grier can get some relief in appeal.
We know we had a bad coach with Chump and most will admit that. Thankfully that era is over.
As far as you or any of your Trailerhasse cronies liking the Gators, I could give two s**ts about that. You sir are not worth the paper to wipe my @ss.
I cannot believe (and I'm serious) that a Warchant rumor was actually true. Read a thread about Grier when Treon got suspended stating Grier was next. After reading that Winston actually broke up an altercation at a party and saved some chick (when the Erica saga broke), I swore I was done buying into rumors. Holy Crap! Didn't see this one coming.
Like I posted in the Ole Miss thread, I was really impressed with how quickly Grier grew up in the 4th Qtr of that game. Sorry, fellas. Hate to see these kids screw up their futures like this (even if it turns out to be unintentional). Shame.
Like I posted in the Ole Miss thread, I was really impressed with how quickly Grier grew up in the 4th Qtr of that game. Sorry, fellas. Hate to see these kids screw up their futures like this (even if it turns out to be unintentional). Shame.
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I don't disagree with your second paragraph, we're not denying Grier's culpability nor is he, but we don't need any FSU toolbag coming over here and trying to lecture us... look in the mirror, a-hole!
I'm just glad that you told us that In Your Humble Opinion.
I can take Protein shakes from GNC that will put 30lbs on you. They are legal and doesn't violated anything.
Kentucky fan here. I feel for you guys. This rule is BS. I'd say there's a good chance Grier didn't think he was breaking a rule. Jeremy Jarmon got hammered by the same thing. He ended up going pro because the suspension took up his remaining eligibility.
Look at Sterol which is produced by plants. Its a legal steriod not created from animals but plants. Its legal, sold at GNC and thousands of other places. Its can be used a PED but does the NCAA say this is illegal also? Maybe the NCAA needs to start pee testing every single player on every team because I can promise you that Grier is not the only person taking LEGAL OTC supplements. I take Sterols because I have severe DJD in my whole spine due to an injury in the military. I don't understand NCAA PED rules because they contradict Federal Laws. No, what needs to be done is these players need to get a hold of some top notch moonshine because that is a great PED.
Hate this for Grier. However this thread has once again illustrated the stupidity of most noles. Treon will need to step up.
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