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RayGravesGhost

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Already under criminal investigation in Ohio and Arizona...we can now add Michigan, Nevada, and Georgia to the list


https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/15/politics/trump-lawyers-election-systems-georgia/index.html
The Washington Post: Trump-allied lawyers sought voting machine data in key battleground states

By Paul LeBlanc, CNN
Updated 5:59 PM ET, Mon August 15, 2022

Lawyers allied with former President Donald Trump directed a data firm to copy information from local election systems in three battleground states, records obtained by The Washington Post show.

The data firm, SullivanStrickler, copied sensitive information from a Dominion voting system in Coffee County, Georgia, and were directed by Trump-connected attorneys to do the same in Michigan and Nevada, the Post reported on Monday.

The effort was revealed through records that were subpoenaed in a long-running lawsuit about election security in Georgia. The multi-state scheme underscores the lengths that allies of the then-President were willing to go to in their campaign to pursue debunked allegations of widespread voter fraud and overturn the results of the 2020 election.

While the data firm's examinations were allowed by courts in two counties, according to the Post, the efforts were not public and state authorities have open investigations into improper equipment breaches in Michigan and Georgia.


The records obtained by the Post show that Sidney Powell, a well-known Trump-connected attorney, was central to the effort. Following the 2020 election, she became one of the most prominent attorneys fronting lawsuits that supported Trump and made accusations of election fraud, encouraging supporters to funnel money into legal efforts.
Dominion and others have sued Powell or sought to sanction her in federal court.
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According to the Post, she was the one who sent SullivanStrickler staff to a rural county in Michigan, and later, the Detroit area. She instructed the data firm to share the information they obtained with other Trump allies involved in the effort to overturn the election.

CNN has reached out to SullivanStrickler and representatives for Powell for comment. Neither offered comment to the Post.
There has been a number of incidents around the country where unauthorized people have attempted to gain access to voting systems that were key targets in the Trump campaign's efforts to overturn President Joe Biden's win.

CNN previously reported that in at least one instance in late November 2020, a team of pro-Trump operatives traveled to Antrim County, Michigan, and conducted an audit of voting systems there, according to court documents released as part of a failed lawsuit filed by attorneys working on behalf of the former President at the time.
At the same time, the 2020 election and the false narratives of fraud that emerged from it have shaped a new hybrid threat environment -- encompassing potential physical and digital threats and how the public perceives them.
 

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/robin-vos-fires-michael-gableman-182700136.html
Robin Vos fires Michael Gableman, ending a 2020 election review that's cost taxpayers more than $1 million and produced no evidence of fraud

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MADISON – Assembly Speaker Robin Vos fired Michael Gableman on Friday, more than a year after he hired the former Supreme Court justice to probe the 2020 election and three days after Vos barely survived a primary challenge Gableman supported.

Vos ended Gableman's contract with the state that has provided a national platform and more than $100,000 in salary to Gableman over the last 14 months but has produced a review of former President Donald Trump's 2020 loss that has promoted election conspiracy theories and revealed no evidence of significant voter fraud.

The review has cost state taxpayers more than $1 million through costs for salaries and legal fees related to lawsuits filed against Gableman and Vos over ignored requests for public records.

Vos did not respond to multiple requests from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel for comment. He told WISN-12's Matt Smith in an interview for UPFRONT that Gableman was sent a letter.


"We did it through the process of the contract," Vos said. "I really don't think there's any need to have a discussion. He did a good job last year, kind of got off the rails this year and now we're going to end the investigation."

Vos' decision to fire Gableman comes a week after Trump announced to a Waukesha crowd that Gableman had turned on Vos and that Gableman, like Trump, had endorsed Vos' primary opponent Adam Steen. Vos won the primary Tuesday but only barely — defeating Steen by just 260 votes.

"After having many members of our caucus reach out to me over the past several days, it is beyond clear to me that we only have one choice in this matter, and that's to close the Office of Special Counsel," Vos said in a statement Friday.

On election night, Vos called Gableman "an embarrassment to the state" who wasn't worth talking about — a stark contrast to the praise Vos used to introduce Gableman and the 2020 probe to the 2021 Republican Party of Wisconsin state convention.


"We give you our word that we are doing everything we possibly can to uncover what occurred in 2020," Vos told Republicans during their first state party convention since Trump began tying make-believe voter fraud to his loss in the Badger State, contributing to losing his presidency.

But since then, the review failed to accomplish those goals. Lawmakers did not receive any recommendations from Gableman before wrapping up their work for the year. The review has turned up little information not previously known and has not found evidence showing the 2020 election outcome was incorrectly called.

Democratic Gov. Tony Evers had a one-word reaction to the end of the probe: "Finally."

Rep. Mark Spreitzer, a Democrat on the Assembly Elections Committee who often sparred with Gableman during presentations to the committee, said, "Robin Vos never should have hired Michael Gableman in the first place."

"It took Gableman endorsing against him in a Republican primary to convince Vos of what we've known all along, which is Gableman's an embarrassment to the state of Wisconsin."

Spreitzer said Vos should seek to recoup taxpayer money spent on the review or paid to Gableman.

Rep. Cindi Duchow, R-Town of Delafield, said Friday "there is simply no need for taxpayers to continue to retain his services" now that his review is over.

Gableman's efforts, which officially began on July 1, 2021, have resulted in a cost to taxpayers of $1 million — more than $300,000 over his budget — and a steady drumbeat of explosive court hearings and rulings in lawsuits over Gableman's desire to jail election officials and mayors who refused to be interviewed behind closed doors, and his decision to ignore requests from the public for records related to his probe.

The probe has been fraught with mishaps, like a botched deposition after an attorney tasked with conducting an interview with a local official subpoenaed by Gableman was not licensed to practice law in Wisconsin.

And at times Gableman has been at the center of its controversy by making misogynistic comments about women he sees as adversaries.

While there are no tangible results of the review, elections experts have said they see it having a lasting impact on confidence in the state's system of elections.

"It's about time," Senate Elections Committee chairwoman Kathy Bernier said about Gableman's contract termination.

Bernier, a Republican from Lake Hallie who previously worked as the Chippewa County clerk, has long criticized Gableman for his promotion of debunked and baseless claims about voting patterns in the 2020 election.

"Michael Gableman did all of this to enrich himself financially and to make himself important," she said about his motives for the probe.
 

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Wrong - DJT 45th POTUS, who is the most popular POTUS in American electoral history is pro-law enforcement. He was actively against Leftists & their ACAB & Defund the police.

MAGA & DJT will soon be back in control. The draining of The Swamp will be more robust and successful next time.

The US Government has become an enemy of The American People!
 

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No silence at all. Turns out those guys got off due to entrapment. Feds fabricated the entire ordeal and recruited the patsies to ride along.

You should read more...there were six indicted...
2 acquitted, 2 pled guilty and 2 are being re-tried after mistrial


https://www.detroitnews.com/story/n...franks-plead-guilty-court-records/6690218001/

Second Whitmer kidnap plotter to plead guilty, court records show​

A second member of an alleged plot to kidnap and hurt Gov. Gretchen Whitmer has agreed to plead guilty, giving federal prosecutors two key insiders to fight defense claims of entrapment during next month's trial, according to a federal court filing Monday.
 

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Simple proof is the reaction to more IRS funding...

Think some of the conservative response is an admission to knowingly cheating on their taxes?

But they love to badmouth poor people who they claim don't pay taxes

Seem a little "extra" reactionary when someone proposes looking at their tax returns more closely
 

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https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...it-rubio-johnson-with-ad-on-insulin-cap-vote/
Democrats hit Rubio, Johnson with ad on insulin cap vote


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Senate Democrats are out with a digital ad targeting GOP Sens. Marco Rubio (Fla.) and Ron Johnson (Wis.) over their votes against putting a $35 per month cap on out-of-pocket insulin costs for patients with private insurance.

The vote took place on an amendment to the Democratic climate, tax and health care package approved by the Senate last week. The amendment itself was blocked by Republicans.

The ad, which was shared with The Hill, features a photo of Rubio, Johnson and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) with a caption reading “Senate Republicans voted AGAINST insulin cap.”

The Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee (DSCC) said that it’s a five-figure digital campaign, and the ad will be displayed on news, politics and law websites for voters interested in prescription drugs.


Democrats brought up the amendment after the Senate parliamentarian ruled that a provision in the reconciliation bill establishing the $35 cap violated a rule it needed to meet to be included in the package, which was moving through the Senate under special rules to get around a GOP filibuster.

The approved package did establish a $35 cap on out-of-pocket costs for insulin for people covered by Medicare.

Democrats needed 60 votes — a number that would have required at least 10 GOP votes — to overrule the parliamentarian.

Johnson and Rubio are both up for reelection this fall in contested races.

“Senate Republicans like Johnson and Rubio cast an ugly vote against a popular policy that will lower the cost of insulin for Americans. Johnson and Rubio showed they care more about their Big Pharma political donors than lowering costs for working families — and voters will hold them accountable in November,” DSCC spokesperson Nora Keefe said in a stateme
 

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trumpanzees are ridiculous... 🤣


https://www.yahoo.com/news/gop-lawmaker-offers-most-ridiculous-090613254.html
GOP Lawmaker Offers Most Ridiculous Take Yet On Not Prosecuting Trump
Josephine Harvey
Mon, August 15, 2022 at 5:06 AM·2 min read

Rep. Michael Waltz (R-Fla.) brazenly rewrote history to argue against prosecuting former President Donald Trump for possibly taking classified documents from the White House.

“President Trump took that approach. He said, ’You know what, we’re not going to prosecute Hillary Clinton,’” Waltz said Sunday on Fox News of the 2016 Democratic presidential candidate that Trump routinely said should be sent to jail.

“Despite the blatant, blatant destruction of thousands and thousands of documents with BleachBit that she got to decide what would get presented to the archives,” Waltz added. “And [Trump] said, ’You know what, let’s move on. Let’s move forward.′ But they are just incapable of doing it when it comes to him.”




Clinton was investigated by the FBI for using a private email server for official government communications while she was secretary of state. The FBI found she handled classified information carelessly, but determined there were no criminal violations.

Trump hardly came across as keen to “move forward.”

Even now, the infamous “lock her up” chants about Clinton feature at Trump’s rallies. He suggested in 2016 that Clinton would “be in jail” during his administration. He pledged to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate her if he won, though never followed through.

Now, as the Justice Department investigates whether Trump intentionally took classified documents from the White House to his Mar-a-Lago residence, Trump’s allies have charged that prosecuting him would be too divisive for the country. They’ve also attacked the credibility of the Justice Department and spread unfounded and self-serving conspiracy theories that any damaging materials found in the FBI’s search of his Florida home were planted there.

Trump is under investigation for a possible violation of the Espionage Act, obstruction of justice, and removing and destroying official documents, according to the FBI’s search warrant.
 

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Lol - That is almost all fake news and a joke of an article. This nonsense is the made up Russian collusion crap all over again.
 

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/desantis-says-teaching-requirements-too-184702867.html
DeSantis says teaching requirements are 'too rigid' as Florida moves to let veterans without degrees teach

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  • Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis said teaching requirements have been "too rigid" for educators.
  • Florida is issuing temporary teaching certificates to allow military veterans to teach in schools.
  • The policy has garnered criticism from educators who said that it could impact teaching quality.
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis complained that teaching requirements have been "too rigid" for requiring educators to have "certain credentials."

His comments come after Florida moved to allow military veterans to teach in public schools. The policy has garnered criticism from educators who said that it could impact teaching quality.

"We want you to be able to teach Florida students," DeSantis said in a video on Twitter. "For too long, the requirements to be a teacher have been too rigid with union bosses insisting that all educators get certain credentials that often have little impact on teaching performance."

The state's new program invites veterans to teach if they served four years and got an honorable or medical discharge and clear a background check. They also must have completed 60 college credits (half of a four-year degree) and pass a Florida subject exam.




"Our veterans have a wealth of knowledge and experience they can bring to bear in the classroom, and with this innovative approach, they will be able to do so for five years with a temporary certification as they work towards their degree," DeSantis said.

The Florida Education Association is anticipating over 8,000 teacher vacancies going into the 2022-2023 school year, according to WPTV. In a recent statement, the agency called on lawmakers to ensure teachers get better salaries and schools have "qualified, experienced teachers."

"Every morning our students recite the Pledge of Allegiance while looking at the star-spangled banner," DeSantis said. "It is fitting that the teacher in the classroom is somebody who took an oath and put his or her life on the line to preserve, protect, and defend our flag and the freedom it represents."
 

RayGravesGhost

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Lol - That is almost all fake news and a joke of an article. This nonsense is the made up Russian collusion crap all over again.


So the FOX News video is a "fake"?

trump as recently as his latest scandal wanted Hillary Clinton prosecuted

Isn't that what Crossfire Hurricane is all about and why trump declassified (he didn't) the documents and took them to Mar-A-Lago?

Its 2022 and trump is still trying to prosecute Clinton... and you believe some nonsense that trump decided to not prosecute but to look forward? 🤣
 

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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-once-again-says-economic-data-is-fake-news-125557465.html
Trump once again says economic data is fake news
Ben Werschkul ·Washington Correspondent
Tue, August 16, 2022 at 8:55 AM·5 min read

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Donald Trump has assailed the government’s official economic data this summer by calling it “phony” or “fake news." He likes to say the “actual” number for jobs statistics or the inflation rate would be much more flattering to him — and would look worse for President Joe Biden.

It’s a return to form for the former president who called the unemployment rate "total fiction" during his 2016 campaign before flipping and touting that same data once he was in office.

This time around, Yahoo Finance found at least six recent instances when Trump dismissed inflation and jobs data. In one example, during a speech in Arizona in July, Trump mischaracterized an already record-high inflation reading of 9.1%. “Biden created the worst inflation in 47 years," he said. "We’re at 9.1%, but the actual number is much, much higher than that.” In addition to offering no evidence of his claim, the 9.1% number is the highest increase in 40 years, not 47

“It's not based in reality or an accurate understanding of Americans' experiences. It's just based on political narrative,” Aaron Sojourner, a former senior economist for labor at White House Council of Economic Advisers under Presidents Obama and Trump, said in an interview.

He added, referring to Trump, “He just makes up stuff."

Trump's baseless dismissals of economic data appear set to be one feature of a widely expected third run for the presidency that he could announce as early as this year. In addition, his campaign will likely feature a full-throated attack on the FBI after it searched his home for a potential violation of the Espionage Act. Trump is also likely to focus on his business practices and plan to fire thousands of government employees who are traditionally insulated from politics.

Multiple requests to representatives of the former president to back up his claims went unanswered.

‘Now I accept those numbers very proudly’

Casting doubt on official statistics featured prominently in Trump’s 2016 campaign. The then-candidate called the official jobs report fake or phony at least 19 times, according to a Washington Post tally.

At the time, Trump echoed a trend among right-wing figures who were quick to question any good economic news under the watch of then-President Obama. The late former General Electric CEO Jack Welch, for example, once claimed “these Chicago guys” changed the numbers to improve their political standing.

But for Trump, his tone abruptly changed once in office.

During a roundtable with manufacturers in 2017, he said of the unemployment rate, which was then at 4.3%, that “for a long time they don’t matter, but now I accept those numbers very proudly.”

Then-Press Secretary Sean Spicer also shocked reporters that year when he told them he’d talked to Trump about the jobs data “and he said to quote him very clearly: 'They may have been phony in the past, but it’s very real now.' ”


Both the unemployment rate and the Consumer Price Index, the most widely cited measure of inflation, are compiled by the Bureau of Labor Statistics. There is no evidence that the group, a division of the U.S. Department of Labor, has changed its methods for gathering and releasing information between presidential administrations.

"They are very professional, very scientific [and] do their work every month completely above board," says Sojourner, who's currently a labor economist at the W.E. Upjohn Institute for Employment Research. "We can argue about interpretation of what they mean to some extent, but they follow very reliable procedures to get accurate statistics on the labor market."

‘It’s fake news’

For Trump, in what may continue through the 2024 election, the numbers are fake again.

At a rally in May, Trump said of the 3.6% unemployment rate: “That’s not true, it’s not correct: It’s fake news.” He followed it up with a post on Truth Social, his social media platform, adding that “[m]illions of people that are unemployed but not looking for jobs make that number FAKE, like so much else in our failing Country.” He repeated a version of the claim again at a rally in Illinois later that month.

Trump appears to be referring to the civilian labor force level, which sat at 164.6 million Americans in February 2020, just before the COVID pandemic hit. Contrary to Trump’s claims, the metric has returned to a similar level in recent months under President Biden, digging out from losses in the labor force during the coronavirus pandemic.

Overall, the most recent jobs report found that total non-farm employment has fully recovered to its pre-pandemic level. In February 2020, the survey found the labor force was 152.504 million Americans strong. As of July 2022, that number was up to 152.536 million.

In more recent appearances this summer, Trump has turned his focus to inflation. At a speech in Arizona on July 22, he flatly said that inflation was much higher than the 9.1% year-over-year rate reported in June.

A few days later, during a speech in Washington, DC on July 26, he hedged a bit, saying “a lot of people think it is much higher than that.”

This month, during a speech in Dallas, he said of the inflation rate: “I believe it’s much higher than that, by the way.”

More recently, inflation moderated in July's numbers with falling gas prices leading to a lower than expected year-over-year increase of 8.5% in the consumer price index. Month over month, inflation was flat with the rise in things like food offset by decreasing prices for fuel.

If inflation continues to cool, Trump is quite likely to increase the frequency of his declarations that the data is cooked. But don't expect economists like Sojourner to take the claims seriously.

"I don't think [Trump's] false claims merit good faith interpretation," he says.
 

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https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/mothers-against-greg-abbott-founder-211145634.html
Texas mom behind Mothers Against Greg Abbott — MAGA — talks new anti-governor political ads
Mon, August 15, 2022 at 5:11 PM·5 min read

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When Nancy Thompson, 52, drove to the Texas State Capitol building on August 6, 2021, she only had one thing on her mind: her children.

The mother of three had recently been in the hospital with her son, who was battling a virus that impacted his organs. Doctors told Thompson that his recovery would take several weeks and that, due to COVID-19, she should take extra precautions to keep him healthy. Unfortunately, Gov. Greg Abbott removed the mask mandates from schools that same week.

“They really wanted me to consider making sure that he was masked or keeping him from school while he was so ill,” Thompson tells Yahoo Life. “I was so concerned about the fact that they got rid of the mask mandates in school, and I was worried that my son was going to get ill and possibly pass away.”

She added, “I couldn't sleep, and I decided I'm going go protest down at the Capitol because I was just done. I'd had enough.”

Holding a sign that read "Mothers Against Greg Abbott" (only realizing later that the acronym was MAGA), Thompson stood proudly in protest of the governor, whom she calls "Pro-COVID and anti-children." She posted of photo of herself on Twitter, and that moment of activism quickly inspired a movement.

“I didn't expect the photograph that I took of myself to go viral, and it did,” says Thompson, of Austin, who works in the tech industry. “At first I was thinking I was alone, but it turns out that there were tens of us, and then there were hundreds of us, and then there were thousands of us. Now there's tens of thousands of us."

One year later, the Mothers Against Greg Abbott Facebook group has more than 53,000 members who are united across party lines to vote Abbott out of office in November — something the group is particularly passionate about, as, since the last election, Texas Republicans passed a bill that restricted access to voting for some residents, disproportionately impacting poor people and communities of color.

“Texas is number one in business, it's at the bottom of every other issue that is important to Texas families," says Thompson. "I think we could be doing better. So in order to vote for change we need people to go out, register to vote, actually make a plan to vote, and vote for change for Texas. And this year that means voting for Democrats.”


In order to reach more voters before November, Mothers Against Greg Abbott has released several campaign ads to connect with Texans. The first, "Breaking Bread," features friends and family members reuniting after being divided by politics. The second ad, "Nothing Changes," shows mothers from all different backgrounds speaking out about the changes they want to see in Texas politics.

One mother in the ad stands alongside her transgender child — part of a community that has been relentlessly targeted by Texas Republicans considering that in 2021, more than 40 bills were proposed that would have impacted trans and nonbinary youth in the state. These bills attempted to ban trans kids from playing sports and classify gender-affirming treatments as child abuse. “The way he's encouraging the families to be turned into CPS that seek gender affirming care. That's just wrong,” says Thompson. “He's creating a fascist state where Texans are turning on other Texans.”

Another powerful ad, "Whose Choice," was released in July after Roe v. Wade was overturned. It challenges Abbott's decision to make most abortions illegal in the state.

“He took away women's rights to choose what they do with their own bodies. The fear that it's created, where neighbors can tell on other neighbors if someone has an abortion, he put a bounty on women and that is just one way to turn Texans against one another," says Thompson. "It's just a horrible way to live. It's a horrible way to govern."

“I've never experienced a government actively seeking to hurt other Texans like I have under Greg Abbott,” Thompson adds.

The political ads are a collaboration with Michelle Mower, a filmmaker who reached out to Thompson and offered to help get the message out. Mower connected Mothers Against Greg Abbott with 40 filmmakers from Texas, California and New York to collaborate on the scripts and video shoots. Thompson says the actors, cinematographers and producers all work together, most on a volunteer basis, to complete the ads.

“We need to recreate our approach to messaging,” she says. “So it's just our group taking the bull by the horns and saying, 'Okay, this is what we wanna see. This is how we wanna fight.'”


Their latest video First Day of School, takes an emotional look at the stress parents have in preparing their children to go back to school, just months after the mass shooting in Uvalde, Texas, which claimed the lives of 21 victims.

“I mean, every single day we've been asking Governor Abbott for common sense gun laws, and he keeps on turning us down. Even the parents in Uvalde — they put together a petition and they've tried to talk to him numerous times asking for common sense gun laws and over and over again he has turned parents down. He's turned children down. He's turned Texans down, and that’s just not acceptable," says Thompson.

As election season approaches, the political polling site FiveThirtyEight has Governor Abbott leading Democratic opponent Beto O’Rourke by about 9 points. Some polls have the margin narrowing to 7 points, which means the Gubernatorial race will be closely watched until November.

In the meantime, Thompson remains laser focused on connecting with other Texas mothers to create a brighter future for their children.

"I'm really hoping that all women across Texas, regardless of your political affiliation, if you want change in Texas, come and vote for Democrats. You don't have to vote the same as your husband or as your grandfather or as your father or as your uncle or as your boyfriend," says Thompson.

"It's really important that women team up with other women and that we work with our allies to rise up and say that we've had enough."
 

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Since there's about 37 different related threads finally merged here, I may as well post a video that may not have anything to do with the 48 different threads merged. Then again, this may be related.

 
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You should read more...there were six indicted...
2 acquitted, 2 pled guilty and 2 are being re-tried after mistrial


https://www.detroitnews.com/story/n...franks-plead-guilty-court-records/6690218001/

Second Whitmer kidnap plotter to plead guilty, court records show​

A second member of an alleged plot to kidnap and hurt Gov. Gretchen Whitmer has agreed to plead guilty, giving federal prosecutors two key insiders to fight defense claims of entrapment during next month's trial, according to a federal court filing Monday.
The feds organized the group. They started it, recruited the morons and then arrested them for agreeing to go through with the feds’ plot. It was all a ruse. Too bad you liberals have been duped yet again, but you have.
 
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2 posters have dominated the board the past 2 days - their threads have been merged into proprietary threads from the 1st 2 pages alone. Please start new topics in this thread. If someone wants to engage these topics, they need to do it here. Thanks ...
No question you'll be back here doing the same thing in about a week or two when he suffers more meltdowns.
 

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With those crap load of threads, I could have sworn each of them had over 10 pages worth.
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With those crap load of threads, I could have sworn each of them had over 10 pages worth.
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It's like a cow pasture with Lil Dickey's posts. Lots of manure, but lots of open spaces devoid of intelligent content. It's pretty easy to see a big cow patty and avoid the goo on the shoe. (other than Fevered Brain and InstaTator) not seeing the forest for the trees. :confused:
 

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I don't think you understand what's being challenged here...

The fact the system is racially discriminatory isn't being challenged
The trump appointed judge has already ruled that

The GOP is challenging whether or not Georgia should be allowed to put a non racially discriminatory system in place

I think you are wrong. I think that is absolutely what is being challenged here...despite the ruling from the Trump judge.

There is absolutely no reason to determine these districts based on race. They should be determined by their differences in providing utilities.
 

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Agree. But we have to stop doing crap like this. Race is not, nor should it be, the fulcrum in every damn argument that we (all of us) have with one another.

If it is, racism wins.

So if a group asserts that a regulation or law is discriminatory its more important that we don't argue about it versus resolving the issue?

The voting method has been ruled racially discriminatory by a trump appointed judge

What are minorities supposed to do in your opinion?
Shut up about it because you don't like the arguing?

Whether you appreciate it or not...people that are/have been historically discriminated against are going to flex their rights as citizens....lawfully

If you want racism to lose....then you can start by even listening to BOTH sides of the argument.