Because having more time to fill an open head coaching position is always a good thing.
Realistic coaching options...
- Thread starter Gator Fever
- Start date
Watch after all these years it turns out to be Bobby Stoops. After all of those years of him being our high school crush that said "no, but we can still be great friends" finally realizes thay it's finally time. Do things in life while you can and won't look back and ask "what if?"
So Fever I have a question for you: We all know you want Kiffin. What happens if LSU announces this week that they've hired Lane?
Who's the backup? Do you press for Lincoln Riley? Or do you tell yourself if LSU got Kiffin then Florida better hire Napier as fast as they can?
If LSU hired Kiffin I expect us to end up hiring Napier unless Stoops wanted it. I don't think Riley is realistic and don't even consider him a candidate though I guess you can't say its 100% out of the question. Riley has a great pipeline from Texas and if he combined that with bordering state LSU locking down many of the top ones at home that would be a great recruiting setup. Would be right there with Saban and Kirby probably.
Unless things change my prediction which will probably be wrong of course is that we hire Napier if he is available but if LSU hires him then they would be willing to take Kiffin as the next head coach. I don't think Stoops is coming out of retirement.
I think Napier would chose UF over LSU but that is just my opinion. Napier turned down Auburn and USCjr last year.
No telling what is going on there as their fans don't seem to have a consensus on who is going to be hired. I don't totally rule out them getting Riley because of the recruiting stuff. I have no clue on Napier's thinking but their fans were acting like he was holding out for the possibility of that job knowing Ed's status.
So you're saying put Riley in the middle of a great recruiting area and he would be right there with Saban and Kirby?
You mean.....like the state of Florida? Arguably the top state in the nation for high school talent?
This is why I find your logic so bizarre.....you spent 4 years here under Mullen saying Florida can't recruit with Kirby and that was why they would always trail Georgia. Well now there's a guy out there that you admit can recruit as well as Saban and Kirby.....and you don't want to try to get him.
I don't get it. Are you that worried about chasing a top guy and missing? Trust me, it's not as big of a deal as you think. And even if you do miss on him, the Plan B coaches like Napier and Kiffin will still be there more than likely.
I don’t think Riley is a great recruiter. I think he’s better than average but he hasn’t brought in great classes at OU. Good classes but not great. I may be wrong but I think Stoops recruited much better at OU.
I am saying his talent pipeline is Texas which he can keep much more easily from another bordering state and if he could keep that along with what LSU gets locally it would result in Saban/Kirby like classes. That is why I think it would be LSU if he decided to jump ship.
So you don't think he could recruit in Florida???
I'm not sure I am following your logic...you said the issue for you with Mullen was he can't recruit and you wanted a coach that could keep up with Kirby. Fine. So now you have one you could get to Gainesville and keep up with bowlcut.....and you don't even want to see if it's possible?
It's easy for a coach to say he's not interested when ESPN asks him. Have a school fax his lawyer a contract worth $20M a year and opinions often change.
I am saying he would have it basically locked in at LSU with that Texas pipeline unlike UF. I think if both offered him crazy money he would go to LSU. He probably will stay put.
With someone floating all these Napier is being met with stories I see a bunch of people attacking it as a bad hire due to how he is on offense and him being a non-power 5 coach. I dont hate the pick myself but would take Kiffin over him.
No to Kiffin. He has one foot out the door everywhere he goes. He’s just an average recruiter as well. I do think Kiffin would win here quick but he isn’t a long term solution.
I see Kiffin getting overwhelmed and checking out mentally just the same way Mullen did, if not sooner. He's mentally fragile.
I will freely admit there are several people under discussion I know little about. But I said before Mullen was let go that if we went a new direction I wanted a young guy with a tons of energy and charisma, ready to put a positive spin on the place the minute he walks in the door, and I'm sticking to that.
But we need to really commit the resources needed to bring in a great team of coaches and advisors and get out and recruit nationally on a par with the top schools.
LSU Football Coach Search Down To 3: Baylor's Dave Aranda, Louisiana's Billy Napier and Iowa State's Matt Campbell
BATON ROUGE -- The LSU football coaching search is down to three candidates, and the next coach could be named by 'the end of this week' or early next week, two sources with know
www.outkick.com
BATON ROUGE — The LSU football coaching search is down to three candidates, and the next coach could be named by “the end of this week” or early next week, two sources with knowledge of the search said Monday morning.
The candidates are Baylor head coach Dave Aranda, Louisiana-Lafayette head coach Billy Napier and Iowa State head coach Matt Campbell.
Aranda, 45, appears to be in the lead as he has quickly turned around the Baylor program. The Bears (9-2, 6-2 Big 12) were ranked No. 11 in the College Football Playoff rankings last week after upsetting Oklahoma 27-14 on Nov. 13.
-------------------------------------------
Not sure if they are reliable or not but LSU fans are also claiming Napier has a big list of demands for control he is telling these schools.
Agreed. I think Kiffin is a good coach but unstable and i don’t trust him to actually build a program.
If it's demands like a sufficient recruiting budget, decent facilities, and an assistant pay pool that will hire the coaches and advisors he wants, I'm on board. If he wants a 100 million dollar buyout or a no firing clause, not so much.LSU Football Coach Search Down To 3: Baylor's Dave Aranda, Louisiana's Billy Napier and Iowa State's Matt Campbell
BATON ROUGE -- The LSU football coaching search is down to three candidates, and the next coach could be named by 'the end of this week' or early next week, two sources with know
BATON ROUGE — The LSU football coaching search is down to three candidates, and the next coach could be named by “the end of this week” or early next week, two sources with knowledge of the search said Monday morning.
The candidates are Baylor head coach Dave Aranda, Louisiana-Lafayette head coach Billy Napier and Iowa State head coach Matt Campbell.
Aranda, 45, appears to be in the lead as he has quickly turned around the Baylor program. The Bears (9-2, 6-2 Big 12) were ranked No. 11 in the College Football Playoff rankings last week after upsetting Oklahoma 27-14 on Nov. 13.
-------------------------------------------
Not sure if they are reliable or not but LSU fans are also claiming Napier has a big list of demands for control he is telling these schools.
I don't think its the money but they are acting like he is wanting Saban like control over everything whatever that means specifically.
Considering LSU's resources, Arnada was the highest paid DC in the country when they won it all, along with paying Coach O $9 million this season. I don't think Napier has anything to worry about demands there.
Another name I imagine will turn heads at some point is Kendal Briles, that offense at Arkansas is no fluke.
Another name I imagine will turn heads at some point is Kendal Briles, that offense at Arkansas is no fluke.
Aranda makes the most sense for LSU from those names. I'm honestly surprised you guys never mention him.LSU Football Coach Search Down To 3: Baylor's Dave Aranda, Louisiana's Billy Napier and Iowa State's Matt Campbell
BATON ROUGE -- The LSU football coaching search is down to three candidates, and the next coach could be named by 'the end of this week' or early next week, two sources with know
BATON ROUGE — The LSU football coaching search is down to three candidates, and the next coach could be named by “the end of this week” or early next week, two sources with knowledge of the search said Monday morning.
The candidates are Baylor head coach Dave Aranda, Louisiana-Lafayette head coach Billy Napier and Iowa State head coach Matt Campbell.
Aranda, 45, appears to be in the lead as he has quickly turned around the Baylor program. The Bears (9-2, 6-2 Big 12) were ranked No. 11 in the College Football Playoff rankings last week after upsetting Oklahoma 27-14 on Nov. 13.
-------------------------------------------
Not sure if they are reliable or not but LSU fans are also claiming Napier has a big list of demands for control he is telling these schools.
You just said it yourself he probably makes the most sense for LSU. He’s only been a head coach for 2 years and 1 of those years was bad. I think he’s a good coach but probably makes more sense for LSU than anybody else just because he has coached there.
Napier is probably as big of a “splash.” hire as Florida can reasonably make….(assuming as sadgator is…that Kiffin is not an acceptable option…which he isn’t)
sadgator still likes the Campbell dude. His offenses are sick and he has been beyond loyal to ISU…but he apparently isn’t an option for some reason….
sadgator still maintains it is gonna be somebody none of us have ever heard of…ala Mac…
sadgator still likes the Campbell dude. His offenses are sick and he has been beyond loyal to ISU…but he apparently isn’t an option for some reason….
sadgator still maintains it is gonna be somebody none of us have ever heard of…ala Mac…
Trying to think who could be the "Mac" like candidate this time. A few have mentioned Campbell but there hasn't been hardly anything about him actually being looked at.
Everyone being on Napier this much would make you think there is a good chance its wrong. Same with how much Aranda talk their is now with LSU. Really surprised LSU hasn't leaked yet unless they keep getting turned down.
He makes the most sense for LSU cause he's coached there in the past and his defenses did exceptionally well. If he had coached at Florida before, same thing.
Most of the UF fans here seem to be scared off of any candidate that's shown interest in any other job. The reality is, every coach you guys are going after is going to be a fight. Va Tech fans are convinced they have Napier in the bag, for instance.
If you guys only target guys that you think you won't have to fight for, it's gonna be an awfully short list of candidates, and likely all alums. Gotta fight for the good candidates.
LSU fans are just spinning nonsense now to say they got the better coach whether its Napier or Aranda. They weren't even after Napier if we get him and they wanted Aranda after Riley fell through not Napier. Then they would brag about beating us out for Napier if they do get him.
I mean if they get Aranda and you guys get Napier, they won't have to do much spinning to say they got the better hire. Aranda is coaching at a Power 5 school that's borderline Top 10 and Napier is coaching at an unranked Sun Belt team. Of course Aranda is the better hire at this point.
What about Meyer whose best win was like a final # 25 Pitt team at Utah - who was a non-power 5 school?
That time it worked. What about Jim McElwain? That time it didn't.
Up n comers are for programs who missed on the guy(s) they really wanted, or they were too scared of being told 'no' by them.
Taking out Saban, Riley, Swinney, Brian Kelly, Ryan Day and Kirby also who is the current power 5 coach we should be throwing real big money at?
