Proprietary COVID-19 and Vaccine thread
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I know this will fall on deaf ears but that’s a semantics argument. If somebody was hospitalized for Covid they remain a Covid patient until they’re discharged from the hospital. Just like if somebody was hospitalized for myocardial infarction they remain MI patient for that hospitalization until they are discharged.
We call them Covid 90s but basically these are covered patients that survived the initial infection that are no longer infectious and starting a very slow long process of recovery.
They will forever be considered Covid patients, long Covid or Covid survivors or whatever you wanna college, but if their next admission they will be admitted for that problem and not Covid. And that’s when you no longer count them them
But don’t let that stand in the way of a good tweet
The information we have on the vaccine risk profile long term is non existent.
We know short term there are some inflammation issues in a small % young people.
It seems like efficacy wanes.
The deaths by age are very well documented and don’t control for comorbidities. The numbers are extremely low.
BTW, could we say this was a case of a hospital official admitting in private that they are going to intentionally misrepresent covid information in order to try to get a 'rise' out of people?
Long term obviously requires more time. It isn't through any fault or shortcoming that we don't have a long term profile, it is simply because the problem, COVID in its current form, is relatively new and therefore the solution to that problem is also new.
Why do you say the death do not control for comorbidities? I've seen studies where these are clearly outlined.
Here is one recent one I found:
Neuropathological Features of Covid-19
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
What numbers are extremely low?
I’m also still trying to figure out where @fatman76 Gets a 99.98% survival rate because that’s not what the numbers show.Long term obviously requires more time. It isn't through any fault or shortcoming that we don't have a long term profile, it is simply because the problem, COVID in its current form, is relatively new and therefore the solution to that problem is also new.
Why do you say the death do not control for comorbidities? I've seen studies where these are clearly outlined.
Here is one recent one I found:
Neuropathological Features of Covid-19
What numbers are extremely low?
Agreed, I had no idea I assumed because of your post that was played in New Orleans. So what point were you actually trying to make then if it was played in Jacksonville?
Can’t wait to see how you spend this one, lol.
So now that we have established the game was in Jacksonville, lol, what point were you actually trying to make? That’s pretty amazing attendance for a game moved at the last second three states away over 600 miles away.
Saints home opener.
Average home attendance in 2019 for the Saints was 73k. So requiring shots is costing them over half their attendance.
Good.
New Orleans Saints average attendance 2023 | Statista
In 2023, the New Orleans Saints recorded an average home attendance of 70,020 spectators.www.statista.com
My understanding is that the game was moved due to the hurricane, so the hurricane did have that effect.
You mean aside from the fact that they had to move the game to Jacksonville Florida because of the hurricane? Yeah, aside from that small fact the “hurricane excuse” for the Saints home opener attendance is null and void.
How does 'vaccinating' the 'unvaccinated' protect those who have already gotten the shot? So she's admitting the shot is worthless?
Notice the wording and goal: Protect the 'vaccinated'. If you are dumb enough to not get the shot, you don't deserve protection.
The 'us vs them' positioning from our government, the media is truly evil. Notice it's starting to get picked up by the shot cheerleaders.
This was never about covid.
@Uniformed_ReRe can you tell us more about how 'educated' dems are and how they are less likely to fall victim to misinformation?
According to VAERS Website:
The US Is Averaging 70 Deaths per Day Due to COVID Vaccine Since July 24th — Or 3,296 COVID Total Vaccine Deaths
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...-total-vaccine-deaths-recorded-vaers-website/https://wonder.cdc.gov/vaers.html
Hmmm..... Guess this doesn't make headline news or finds it way to the biased stat machine reporter: @gator1776
Blinded by the light you are - or should I say blinded by darkness!!!
And now we have proof that hospital officials are attempting to inflate covid case numbers.
It's almost like this whole thing is a big scam.
Fauci has said boosters are needed every 3-5 months.
Which internet doctor do you believe???
PS: More proof in a tweet. Just to anger shot cheerleaders that really don't care about the tweets, they just hate the truth getting out.
Dude we’ve covered this like 15 times. How many times do you need me to keep pointing out to you there is no causation proven in VARES reporting. We even went through a wonderfully eloquent mathematical discussion about this showing to you that the death rate is not impacted by nor has a relation to vaccinations, it is not effected at all by the vaccination itself, and all you have to do is look at the data closely yourself and you would see it. But I guess it’s more fun to post articles that don’t pay attention to the data but have outrageous conspiracy theory headlines for click bait, so if you want to be obstinate, so be it.
Long term obviously requires more time. It isn't through any fault or shortcoming that we don't have a long term profile, it is simply because the problem, COVID in its current form, is relatively new and therefore the solution to that problem is also new.
Why do you say the death do not control for comorbidities? I've seen studies where these are clearly outlined.
Here is one recent one I found:
Neuropathological Features of Covid-19
What numbers are extremely low?
412 lost between the ages of 0-17, that number is extremely low. That 412 number doesn't tell us how many of those kids were already very sick or had other significant risk factors (or where not killed by Covid but had it when they died).
Given the lack of ability to provide truly informed consent, along with the risk profile for kids, it's insane to even talk about mandates for kids IMO. The CFR is 0.0094%. The IFR is most certainly much lower.
I'm just not going to turn my sons into a spike protein-producing machines to save them from something they have a better than 99.9907% chance of beating. Playing Lacrosse is probably more dangerous to them than Covid.
Vax the most at risk. Let the rest develop their own vaccines. We may find out those antibodies are better anyway.
Total number of COVID-19 cases by age U.S. 2023 | Statista
As of April 26, 2023, among adults 18-29 years, the total number of cases of COVID-19 has reached almost 19.48million.
www.statista.com
COVID-19 deaths by age U.S. 2023 | Statista
Between the beginning of January 2020 and June 14, 2023, of the 1,134,641 deaths caused by COVID-19 in the United States, around 307,169 had occurred among those aged 85 years and older.
www.statista.com
Thanks. I'll check this out a little later today or tomorrow morning. Appreciate you sharing.412 lost between the ages of 0-17, that number is extremely low. That 412 number doesn't tell us how many of those kids were already very sick or had other significant risk factors (or where not killed by Covid but had it when they died).
Given the lack of ability to provide truly informed consent, along with the risk profile for kids, it's insane to even talk about mandates for kids IMO. The CFR is 0.0094%. The IFR is most certainly much lower.
I'm just not going to turn my sons into a spike protein-producing machines to save them from something they have a better than 99.9907% chance of beating. Playing Lacrosse is probably more dangerous to them than Covid.
Vax the most at risk. Let the rest develop their own vaccines. We may find out those antibodies are better anyway.
Total number of COVID-19 cases by age U.S. 2023 | Statista
As of April 26, 2023, among adults 18-29 years, the total number of cases of COVID-19 has reached almost 19.48million.COVID-19 deaths by age U.S. 2023 | Statista
Between the beginning of January 2020 and June 14, 2023, of the 1,134,641 deaths caused by COVID-19 in the United States, around 307,169 had occurred among those aged 85 years and older.
Oh, okay. Wow. Like Dude. Like you really convinced me. Like this VARES stuff on the CDC website means nothing. BUT they do put on their website a biased, descriptive, underlined word to suggest it bogus: unverified. That makes it alright and automatically suggests all that data is unverified and unnecessary because we have a vaccine that has been pushed upon the public so fast (never in history has one been done so quickly) to save so many lives. May we all thank God for the government of the USA for distributing such a life-saving concoction. Oh, hey, I have on a daily basis patient after patient telling me stories of unverified suffering of symptoms and deaths from the vaccine. Oops, let me rephrase that this way: They didn't have symptoms before the vaccine and a couple have died since taking the vaccine, but let's not say it was the vaccine, okay? Why? Because YOU say it's all fine.
My post was about vaxxing kids. You're right, I was pretty far off.
The actual CFR for ages 0-17 is 99.9907%. IFR is, as I'm sure you'll agree, much lower.
Using John's Hopkins map - we've had 40.9MM cases and 659k deaths. That's a 98.39% CFR. Again, we all know that we don't catch every case. So it's likely at least a little better than 98.4%.
Interesting follow-up to that, even though we seen a massive increase in the number of Covid cases the last two months the ratios of bad outcomes my age has remain the same as it was before so it is still extremely unlikely to kill anybody below the age of 20, but it has happened..412 lost between the ages of 0-17, that number is extremely low. That 412 number doesn't tell us how many of those kids were already very sick or had other significant risk factors (or where not killed by Covid but had it when they died).
Given the lack of ability to provide truly informed consent, along with the risk profile for kids, it's insane to even talk about mandates for kids IMO. The CFR is 0.0094%. The IFR is most certainly much lower.
I'm just not going to turn my sons into a spike protein-producing machines to save them from something they have a better than 99.9907% chance of beating. Playing Lacrosse is probably more dangerous to them than Covid.
Vax the most at risk. Let the rest develop their own vaccines. We may find out those antibodies are better anyway.
Total number of COVID-19 cases by age U.S. 2023 | Statista
As of April 26, 2023, among adults 18-29 years, the total number of cases of COVID-19 has reached almost 19.48million.COVID-19 deaths by age U.S. 2023 | Statista
Between the beginning of January 2020 and June 14, 2023, of the 1,134,641 deaths caused by COVID-19 in the United States, around 307,169 had occurred among those aged 85 years and older.
To more than reasonable discussion to say that people below certain age may not need the vaccine, we said it before, and I think now that we’ve reached close to hurt immunity it could be said again. I would definitely push it for anybody 25 and above though
NIH and CDC are two sources that are either 100% accurate or 100% wrong according to him, based solely on whether or not he likes what data they are sharing at any moment.
Yeah I figured out that was the point you were making after the fact. Sorry I missed it first. See my response above I’m inclined to agree with you on this.
I'm just not going to listen to anyone who says the vaccine has killed 0 people.
VAERS is unfortunately all we have. That fact by itself should make someone who questions things suspicious.
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Boys more likely to be hospitalised with rare side-effect of Pfizer vaccine than covid itself, claims US study | World News - The Indian Express
The study alleged that most children who experienced the rare side-effect of the vaccine began showing symptoms within days of receiving the second shot of the vaccine.
indianexpress.com
Read these back to back. Note my post above citing a CFR of 0.0094% for 0-17. Note: 412 deaths is all ages from 0-17. They won't tell us what the data are for ages 5-11. Just shut up and give the damn kids the shot?
@GhostOfMatchesMalone - has any of this been about Covid? Seems like money is somehow involved, but I am way too undereducated to sift through all of this confusing information.
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Props on spending half your day to tell us old guys and fat guys are Covid risks.From Reddit:
Now, I wonder if we could find an old fat guy who beat Covid. Oh yeah, my 76YO dad who's had a heart attack, two stents, and an aortic valve replacement...he's prediabetic, overweight and sedentary. He felt flu like for three days and was fine.
Point is, anecdotes are just that.
Here, 106 anecdotes. You better get to work on Facebook buddy. This is going to take you all week.From Reddit:
106 Fully Vaccinated People Have Died From COVID in Mass.
One hundred and six people who had been fully vaccinated against the coronavirus died from the disease in Massachusetts by the end of July, according to the state Department of Public Health. Six new deaths among breakthrough cases were reported Tuesday, along with more than 2,000 new cases. In...
www.nbcboston.com
Can an internet doctor explain to me how someone who is 'vaccinated' against a virus can DIE from that virus?Here, 106 anecdotes. You better get to work on Facebook buddy. This is going to take you all week.
106 Fully Vaccinated People Have Died From COVID in Mass.
One hundred and six people who had been fully vaccinated against the coronavirus died from the disease in Massachusetts by the end of July, according to the state Department of Public Health. Six new deaths among breakthrough cases were reported Tuesday, along with more than 2,000 new cases. In...
Talk to me like I am @Uniformed_ReRe
Maybe @gator1776 can give us an update on how he's getting rich pushing vaccines.Boys more likely to be hospitalised with rare side-effect of Pfizer vaccine than covid itself, claims US study | World News - The Indian Express
The study alleged that most children who experienced the rare side-effect of the vaccine began showing symptoms within days of receiving the second shot of the vaccine.
Read these back to back. Note my post above citing a CFR of 0.0094% for 0-17. Note: 412 deaths is all ages from 0-17. They won't tell us what the data are for ages 5-11. Just shut up and give the damn kids the shot?
@GhostOfMatchesMalone - has any of this been about Covid? Seems like money is somehow involved, but I am way too undereducated to sift through all of this confusing information.
@Uniformed_ReRe Likes blindly.
Wow @Uniformed_ReRe
So incredibly powerful my friend. Thank you for posting. Thoughts and prayers with their family.
So incredibly powerful my friend. Thank you for posting. Thoughts and prayers with their family.
Gut-wrenching. Hopefully more people will take stories like this seriously and get their obesity under control.From Reddit:
Do we know what state treated him?
Let me rephrase: Was it MS, AL or LA?
Apparently Numero cincuenta is ok with certain types of social media. Sort of reminds me of when he said “he never listens to the NIH” when he was arguing there were no treatments for covid. Then a couple weeks later links to the NIH to support his take on vaccines.
Good ol’ Numero Cincuenta. Add hypocrisy to his list of credits
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