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Proprietary COVID-19 and Vaccine thread

I looked this up since I was curious. What I could find is 67% for the US vaccinated. What would be better info is percentage of covid deaths vaccinated vs unvaccinated.
That's above.

In August, 58% of covid deaths were people who got the shots.
In February, 42% of covid deaths were people who got the shots.
In Sept 2021, 21% of covid deaths were people who got the shots.

Or said another way.....

In Sept 2021, 79% of covid deaths were from 'unvaccinated'.
In Feb of 2022, 58% of covid deaths were from 'unvaccinated'.
In Aug of 2022, 42% of covid deaths were from 'unvaccinated'.

And I would suspect your 67% 'vaccination' rate has been pretty constant for the last year or so. So the death rate among the 'vaccinated' rising quickly as the 'vaccination' rate remains solid is.....bad news.
 
And I would suspect your 67% 'vaccination' rate has been pretty constant for the last year or so. So the death rate among the 'vaccinated' rising quickly as the 'vaccination' rate remains solid is.....bad news.
Definitely not good news for the jab junkies getting booster after booster. :oops: I was picking up a prescription this week and saw some woman getting a covid shot. She was rubbing her arm and complaining, "that one was even more painful than the last one. " :rolleyes:
 
That's above.

In August, 58% of covid deaths were people who got the shots.
In February, 42% of covid deaths were people who got the shots.
In Sept 2021, 21% of covid deaths were people who got the shots.

Or said another way.....

In Sept 2021, 79% of covid deaths were from 'unvaccinated'.
In Feb of 2022, 58% of covid deaths were from 'unvaccinated'.
In Aug of 2022, 42% of covid deaths were from 'unvaccinated'.

And I would suspect your 67% 'vaccination' rate has been pretty constant for the last year or so. So the death rate among the 'vaccinated' rising quickly as the 'vaccination' rate remains solid is.....bad news.
@Uniformed_ReRe

I know you want to make the argument that the deaths from the vaccinated are increasing because “everyone” is vaccinated, but that’s not supported by the numbers/trends.

The only other factor that could support the effectiveness of the vaccines is that higher risk categories are getting vaccinated at higher rates…but that doesn’t really work either because death is the one thing the vaccines are supposed to prevent.

There will become a time no one will be able to claim these vaccines work as promised. We’re about 80% there, which is why uptake of the bivalent boosters is so incredibly low. Most people are done.
 
That's above.

In August, 58% of covid deaths were people who got the shots.
In February, 42% of covid deaths were people who got the shots.
In Sept 2021, 21% of covid deaths were people who got the shots.

Or said another way.....

In Sept 2021, 79% of covid deaths were from 'unvaccinated'.
In Feb of 2022, 58% of covid deaths were from 'unvaccinated'.
In Aug of 2022, 42% of covid deaths were from 'unvaccinated'.

And I would suspect your 67% 'vaccination' rate has been pretty constant for the last year or so. So the death rate among the 'vaccinated' rising quickly as the 'vaccination' rate remains solid is.....bad news.
Excellent post BTW. Thanks for talking the time.
 
Definitely not good news for the jab junkies getting booster after booster. :oops: I was picking up a prescription this week and saw some woman getting a covid shot. She was rubbing her arm and complaining, "that one was even more painful than the last one. " :rolleyes:
Correct. None of us know the long-term effects, but logic tells us the person that got a shot and a booster then said forget it is very likely at less risk of any shot side affects than someone who is still religiously getting shot after shot.
 
@Uniformed_ReRe

I know you want to make the argument that the deaths from the vaccinated are increasing because “everyone” is vaccinated, but that’s not supported by the numbers/trends.

The only other factor that could support the effectiveness of the vaccines is that higher risk categories are getting vaccinated at higher rates…but that doesn’t really work either because death is the one thing the vaccines are supposed to prevent.

There will become a time no one will be able to claim these vaccines work as promised. We’re about 80% there, which is why uptake of the bivalent boosters is so incredibly low. Most people are done.
My fear for a while now has been that these shots can actually weaken the immune system, and if so repeated shots would likely weaken it even further. I'm worried that could be accounting for the higher death rate among shot takers.
 
My fear for a while now has been that these shots can actually weaken the immune system, and if so repeated shots would likely weaken it even further. I'm worried that could be accounting for the higher death rate among shot takers.
You might be referring to ADE, antibody-dependent enhancement.

It’s rare, I think the only one they admit to is the vaccine for Dengue fever, but it’s super serious.

If it turns out that these vaccines cause ADE a lot of people will die. Hopefully it’s just that these vaccines suck, not that they make things worse.
 
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Here you go.

Washington Post??????!!!!!!!

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Vaccinated people now make up a majority of covid deaths


If you read the actual article, it states that the unvaccinated have 6-12 times the risk of dying from COVID vs the vaccinated.
 
If you read the actual article, it states that the unvaccinated have 6-12 times the risk of dying from COVID vs the vaccinated.
"“a majority of Americans dying from the coronavirus received at least the primary series of the vaccine.”

That's from the actual article.

Covid is now a pandemic of the 'vaccinated'.
 
If a legit doctor advised you not to get a shot, fair enough.
No, my doc advised me to get it. I'm a science guy (retired periodontist) and can do my own vetting / research for stuff like this. When discussing the shot with fellow classmates / colleagues, they all say the same thing about getting the shot, "are you out of your f'n mind?"
 
If a legit doctor advised you not to get a shot, fair enough.
Mine did.

When I had to get vaccinated to keep my job she steered me to J&J. After that she’s told me to stay away from the mRNA shots. She’s had several patients with significant reactions.

My wife is vaccine injured, a player I coach’s dad has permanent Guillain-Barré (he’ll likely be in a wheelchair the rest of his life), and a friend’s mom had a series of mini strokes about 3 days after her second shot. She’s fine now luckily.

I don’t know that many people, to know three is pretty crazy.

edit: She’s the same doctor that gave me a detailed protocol- including IVM - to give to my 17YO when he had to get vaccinated to go to Europe. Luckily he’s not had any issues to date.
 
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@Uniformed_ReRe - check the credentials on who did this study…consensus is falling apart.



704 7. Conclusion
705 Based on public data provided by the CDC18, we estimate that approximately 22,000 to 30,000
706 previous uninfected young adults ages 18–29 years must be boosted with an mRNA vaccine to
707 prevent one Covid-19 hospitalisation. Given the fact that this estimate does not take into
708 account the protection conferred by prior infection nor a risk-adjustment for comorbidity status,
709 this should be considered a conservative and optimistic assessment of benefit. Our estimate
710 shows that university Covid-19 vaccine mandates are likely to cause net expected harms to
711 young healthy adults—between 18 and 98 serious adverse events requiring hospitalisation and
712 1373 to 3234 disruptions of daily activities—that is not outweighed by a proportionate public
713 health benefit. Serious Covid-19 vaccine-associated harms are not adequately compensated for
714 by current US vaccine injury systems. As such, these severe infringements of individual liberty
715 are ethically unjustifiable.
716
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This preprint research paper has not been peer reviewed. Electronic copy available at: https://ssrn.com/abstract=4206070
Preprint not peer reviewed

717 Worse still, mandates are associated with wider social harms. The fact that such policies were
718 implemented despite controversy among experts and without updating the sole publicly
719 available risk-benefit analysis to the current Omicron variants suggests a profound lack of
720 transparency in scientific and regulatory policy making. These findings have implications for
721 mandates in other settings such as schools, corporations, healthcare systems and the military.
722 Policymakers should repeal booster mandates for young adults immediately, ensure pathways
723 to compensation to those who have suffered negative consequences from these policies,
724 provide open access to participant-level clinical trial data to allow risk- and age-stratified harm-
725 benefit analyses of any new vaccines prior to issuing recommendations125, and begin what will
726 be a long process of rebuilding trust in public health.
727 728
729 Conflicts of Interest
730 We have no interests to declare.
 
No, my doc advised me to get it. I'm a science guy (retired periodontist) and can do my own vetting / research for stuff like this. When discussing the shot with fellow classmates / colleagues, they all say the same thing about getting the shot, "are you out of your f'n mind?"
The entire profession was indoctrinated by the AMA. They were hoodwinked as well. My PCP was the same. Good guy, just given bad guidance. I suspect the network he works in demanded compliance though for mask bullshit. Mid summer 2020 he quit with that charade and shit canned his mask and never wore one again in clinic. I had to go to a specialist in 2021 and this black fellow who was the nurse practitioner at a orthopedic office privately told me the mask thing was a scam, they just had to pretend to play along. That's when I knew my conclusions were true. 😂
 
As I have said before, I defer to doctors when it comes to medical advice. If your doctor advised you to avoid the vaccine, I’m not going to argue with an accredited expert practicing within their field of expertise.
 
As I have said before, I defer to doctors when it comes to medical advice. If your doctor advised you to avoid the vaccine, I’m not going to argue with an accredited expert practicing within their field of expertise.
Right but that’s not the only issue at hand.

Everyone has a different risk profile with Covid, the flu, pneumonia, etc.

The main issues with the Covid vaccines are still the main issues. The narrative that they are safe and effective is waning quickly. Medical professionals and researchers are starting to move their positions.
 
Right but that’s not the only issue at hand.

Everyone has a different risk profile with Covid, the flu, pneumonia, etc.

The main issues with the Covid vaccines are still the main issues. The narrative that they are safe and effective is waning quickly. Medical professionals and researchers are starting to move their positions.
It's a slow migration though. The biggest loudmouths, the lockdown Nazi's, have fled for the hills. Only the dumbest of the dumb remain dying on that hill.

TODAY'S effing headline. :mad:

 
The entire profession was indoctrinated by the AMA. They were hoodwinked as well. My PCP was the same. Good guy, just given bad guidance. I suspect the network he works in demanded compliance though for mask bullshit. Mid summer 2020 he quit with that charade and shit canned his mask and never wore one again in clinic. I had to go to a specialist in 2021 and this black fellow who was the nurse practitioner at a orthopedic office privately told me the mask thing was a scam, they just had to pretend to play along. That's when I knew my conclusions were true. 😂
They were absolutely told to fall in line or else, some more fervently than others.

The masks didn't hurt anything (wore them for dentistry for years for particulate matter), but there was no evidence they helped in a statistically significant fashion over time, at which point they were just about virtue signaling ...
 
They were absolutely told to fall in line or else, some more fervently than others.

The masks didn't hurt anything (wore them for dentistry for years for particulate matter), but there was no evidence they helped in a statistically significant fashion over time, at which point they were just about virtue signaling ...
The fellow at the orthopedic clinic privately told me, "If I can smell a fart through this thing, I'm not being protected at all". 😂
 
Right but that’s not the only issue at hand.

Everyone has a different risk profile with Covid, the flu, pneumonia, etc.

The main issues with the Covid vaccines are still the main issues. The narrative that they are safe and effective is waning quickly. Medical professionals and researchers are starting to move their positions.
Bingo, and everyone's experiences are different. When I was a kid, my mom took me to get a booster shot, cant even remember what it was for. Within second of getting the shot, I started hallucinating, I remember seeing huge yellow balls that looked like beach balls flying at me. Whatever the shot was, it was a 'bad batch'. But that, coupled with the fact that I have excellent natural immunity and almost never get sick, makes me less likely to be interested in taking any shot unless its effectiveness is rock solidly verified by science.

This was the polar opposite of that: Take an ineffective and potentially dangerous shot and push it on people who don't want it, and don't need it. Of course people are going to resist.
 
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If a legit doctor advised you not to get a shot, fair enough.
Go to 7:30 and just watch 10 minutes of this (till about 17 mins)…you’ll get the idea.

Feel free to ask your doctor, in fact please do before you take any more mRNA shots.

 
Go to 7:30 and just watch 10 minutes of this (till about 17 mins)…you’ll get the idea.

Feel free to ask your doctor, in fact please do before you take any more mRNA shots.

I can't watch that. Shit makes me so angry.
 

Bombshell testimony from top scientists at vaccine hearing reveals injections killing more people than saving and driving surge of variants.

FDA’s Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee after 8 hours of testimony voted 16-2 against Joe Biden’s proposed COVID-19 booster shot program.

 
Tap dancing to China's tune? When can we put him in jail?

 
Go to 7:30 and just watch 10 minutes of this (till about 17 mins)…you’ll get the idea.

Feel free to ask your doctor, in fact please do before you take any more mRNA shots.


I watched and saw a segment where they interview a group of embalmers describing pulling what look like gummy worms out of people’s blood vessels which the video implies were created by the COVID vaccines.

I’ve had four Pfizer shots. How am I able to type these words? Surely my blood has been transformed into gummy worms by now. Have I been spared by the “global elite”?

They have some nerve using Pink Floyd’s “Sheep” for that video. The irony is undoubtedly lost on them.
 
I watched and saw a segment where they interview a group of embalmers describing pulling what look like gummy worms out of people’s blood vessels which the video implies were created by the COVID vaccines.

I’ve had four Pfizer shots. How am I able to type these words? Surely my blood has been transformed into gummy worms by now. Have I been spared by the “global elite”?

They have some nerve using Pink Floyd’s “Sheep” for that video. The irony is undoubtedly lost on them.
There are whole sections of that documentary that are proven not to be true - or misinterpreted and not fully explained in the documentary - but the clots are nothing to scoff at. That’s really solid proof something is wrong. These people have embalmed thousands and didn’t start seeing these until about 5 months after vax rollout.

I don’t know, I’m not sure I would be qualified to give an answer even if I did. But one theory I’ve read is it depends on where the spike protein ends up. If it settles into the wrong place it can fool the body into creating these clots.

But the burden isn’t on anyone to explain why you don’t have them, it’s why these poor people do.
 
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