How in the world did you get that from what he wrote?
Every enumerated right, included the right to bear arms, has some restrictions and laws surrounding it.
Most of the current gun laws are appropriate.
OT: Sounds like we might have our first ISIS attack in the US
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Every enumerated right, included the right to bear arms, has some restrictions and laws surrounding it.
Most of the current gun laws are appropriate.
What I find truly ironic is he comes across as the most ANGRY and verbally VIOLENT poster in the thread. Which, in turn, makes him the one person in this thread I would not want armed. TOO unstable.
In fairness, he seems angry and violent in sports related threads too. So he is nothing if not consistent
That's the delusion.
The Reality is:
He's getting his moronic, ignorant ideas and claims shoved right back down his bleeding heart throat, so he'd like daddy (mod) to step in and help him hide his idiocy.
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Amazing to list the leftist narrative fails on this event.
* They were suggesting it was a pro-life, anti planned parent hood shooting.
* They tried the far right anti-govt meme.
* Blame conservatives and the NRA
* They made it about gun control.
* Domestic incident, worklplace violence
* Attack and mock those who offer "thoughts and prayers" for the victims.
* They were suggesting it was a pro-life, anti planned parent hood shooting.
* They tried the far right anti-govt meme.
* Blame conservatives and the NRA
* They made it about gun control.
* Domestic incident, worklplace violence
* Attack and mock those who offer "thoughts and prayers" for the victims.
And as usual, the Right automatically assumes this was a terrorist attack just because of the last name of these idiots. It may turn out to be but let's go ahead and judge before all of the facts are in. I guess that just gives you a reason to buy more guns.
I'm not really religious, but that is absolutely disgusting....the left hates conservatives and religion more than it does murderous Islamists.
Let's see how many mass shootings there are when errbody and their gramma can shoot back, moron. Mass shooters and terrorists share one thing in common. Cowardice. They don't like resistance, armed or otherwise.
You do understand that the death penalty is not and never has been a deterrent to crime.
How do you stop mass killings? For one, repeal the gun free zone act of 1990. Allow concealed carry everywhere but places of nuisance, concerts, sporting events, and schools. Require places of nuisance, concerts, and sporting events have adequate armed security. Require Schools to have either a n on campus police force, resource officers, or armed security. And it has been proven, by more than one study, that more guns = less crime. There's even a book by that name, written by Dr. Gary Kleck of FSU ( don't hold that against him. )
Notice that the terrorists nearly always attack the UNARMED civilians, not police stations full of armed cops or active duty military bases.
Are you aware that during any war, more unarmed civilians are killed than are the armed soldiers? If/when a war comes, I want to be with the armed soldiers, not with the unarmed victims (see Nazi concentration camps for the worst examples).
And a war can break out on any street in the entire world, on any day....
Are you aware that during any war, more unarmed civilians are killed than are the armed soldiers? If/when a war comes, I want to be with the armed soldiers, not with the unarmed victims (see Nazi concentration camps for the worst examples).
And a war can break out on any street in the entire world, on any day....
You are calling someone names because you don't agree with their viewpoint. Forget being a Gator, I'm sad you call yourself an American.
No, YOU don't need easy access to guns. And you WANT tougher gun laws. Well, you aren't getting tougher gun laws because most Americans are smart enough to understand that the 20k gun laws on the books aren't making a dent in crime, there are more guns than there has ever been in the history of America and crime is going down. I don't NEED an automatic weapon. I WANT ONE. Why? Because the government has them, and the purpose of the 2nd Amendment, contrary to popular belief, is to allow the people to smack their government down, hard, when they get uppity.
In closing, if you want to mosey about unarmed, that's your business. Don't believe you have any right to tell me what I need, since I'm a free man with a clean criminal record.
The American people have the right to carry a firearm or not carry a firearm it is their choice. I certainly won't ever demand someone not carrying a weapon carry a weapon.
We just had a terrible shooting in CA, and CA is ranked #1 by the gun grabbers....they have long waiting periods, they have universal background checks, they have "assault weapon" bans, they have magazine limits, and so on. We see gun control on display every day in places like Chicago, DC, and Baltimore, all places with gun control so strict, some of it has even been declared unconstitutional.
That and he was radicalized, he was in touch with other terrorists and had a home IED business going on.
Other than all that?
Yea, it is probably just another case of workplace violence. Or maybe he was just mad because of a YouTube
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Did you Necks know that when you started posting in this Thread, or were you just hoping so that it would justify your prejudice? You're no different than the BLM people that assume all cops are bad. You're in good company.
This year alone, over 12,000 people have been shot dead by guns, the vast majority of whom did NOT die of mass attacks (defined as 4 or more casualties for a single attack). If we eliminate mass shooting altogether in this country, it would only shave a couple percentage points off the tally. Arm everyone could very well reduce casualties from mass shootings, but I have a sneaking suspicion that shootings by irresponsible gunholders and gangbangers which represent the vast majority of shootings will go up. Unfortunately, the gun culture in this country is too deep rooted to be cleaned up by anything less than a totalitarian government, so unless we're willing to give up our liberties we're stuck with this problem.
Gun sales and concealed weapon permits are going though the roof.
Yet gun violence and gun killings continue to trend down.
The overwhelming majority of violent crime is committed by a rather small percentage of the population. Furthermore, a very very small percentage of the total number of guns are used in crime. But that doesn't stop the left, they think taking legally owned weapons from law-abiding citizens will lessen crime. Actually, no, there is no way they actually believe that.
Violent crime has been steadily decreasing for three decades. The last several years have seen record sales of firearms.
The incidents of gun crime committed by people with concealed carry permits is so close to zero, it is for all intents and purposes.
I did, but then again, I have different sources.
Wait! All cops aren't bad?
If you include 9/11, and I do, and count every mass shooting victim in the past thirty years, it would be right at one percentage point. And that's if you exclude firearm suicides, which for some reason are included in overall firearm deaths.
If you practice a little bit, HEAD SHOTS are really not that difficult to make if you're inside of 25 yards, (and out to 70-80 yards with a standard issue Colt .45 auto if you're good).
Police are trained to shoot for center mass (strength of the body armor), but soldiers will shoot whatever part that comes up first from behind the wall or car....
IF you're afraid, or if you just don't want to kill them, and you're covered up yourself, you can always take them down by shooting them in the foot, (hurts like hell too).
You must be a hell of a shot, most Marines had trouble putting all the shots in the black at 7 yards during WW2 with a GI issue 1911.
I shoot a three inch group at 25 yards and I consider myself a fair to average shot.
We are trained to shoot center mass because when you are all adrenalined up you lose most of your fine motor skills, and some of your vision, so it's the easiest thing to hit that works. Clear front sight post centered horizontally and vertically center mass of blurry target.
You have to practice a lot to be able to shoot to wound, which I wouldn't do for the purpose of legality. Caveat being shooting for the pelvic girdle, since most body armor doesn't cover that area and people shot there don't tend to be able to walk much after.
With only 5 warm-up shots, I qualified Marksman at 25 yds with a GI .45 the first time that I'd ever held one. Nasty recoil compared to the other pistols that I'd used growing up. I've gotten a bit better since way back then....
My gun history is not for public consumption, but I grew up hunting and fishing along with all of the men in my family (father/brothers) and in my extended family (uncles/cousins).
That kind of citizen history in this country is one of the main reasons that our armed forces are the best in the world. Those types of citizens are where the military gets the majority of their snipers.
Someone was asked if they had ever killed anyone. I'd ask that person if you've ever saved another person's life, and at the risk of your own? I have btw, more than once, and it was very gratifying every time. As to having killed anyone, like AS said in True Lies; "Yes, but they were all bad."
I think that all of the 'No Gun' crowd should be dropped off in the nearest ISIS compound, so that they can learn first hand what their policies would lead to....
My gun history is not for public consumption, but I grew up hunting and fishing along with all of the men in my family (father/brothers) and in my extended family (uncles/cousins).
That kind of citizen history in this country is one of the main reasons that our armed forces are the best in the world. Those types of citizens are where the military gets the majority of their snipers.
Someone was asked if they had ever killed anyone. I'd ask that person if you've ever saved another person's life, and at the risk of your own? I have btw, more than once, and it was very gratifying every time. As to having killed anyone, like AS said in True Lies; "Yes, but they were all bad."
I think that all of the 'No Gun' crowd should be dropped off in the nearest ISIS compound, so that they can learn first hand what their policies would lead to....
This
Nobody should be shooting to wound .... I was taught early to never point a gun at someone unless you mean to shoot them... And never shoot someone unless you mean to kill them
Sounds really MEAN to me....
(jusmessinwidja)There are no written in granite rules on when to pull, or when to shoot, or where to aim.
I agree that you must be 'willing' to shoot if you go armed.
I promise you neither I nor any other ammosexual in this thread ever required a reason to buy more guns.
I wish mister "People who carry guns are cowards and aren't manly enough to defend themselves without one" could see this
Granny got her gun
Granny got her gun
True that. What percentage of your net worth would you say is tied up in guns and ammo?
Just to make sure I understand, when a white man who is clearly batshit crazy shoots up an abortion clinic the White House and media tell us, "We must stop these religious extremists."
Yet when two self proclaimed Muslims who took a vow of loyalty to ISIS murder a 14 people, the White House and the media tell us, "We need more gun control."
Yet when two self proclaimed Muslims who took a vow of loyalty to ISIS murder a 14 people, the White House and the media tell us, "We need more gun control."
You are mistaken. Both are guns issues. Neither of those two should have been able to buy guns, for different reasons.
Personally, I think the opposite of what you indicated.
Those facts were reported the eve after the attack.
In fairness, I doubt any of the news sources you watch, read to listen to would emphasis the points. That would be off message for them.
