Okay agnostic/atheistic thinking minds - What is life and when did it originate?
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Matthew 17:24
And when they were come to Capernaum, they that received tribute money came to Peter, and said, Doth not your master pay tribute?
25 He saith, Yes. And when he was come into the house, Jesus prevented him, saying, What thinkest thou, Simon? of whom do the kings of the earth take custom or tribute? of their own children, or of strangers?
26 Peter saith unto him, Of strangers. Jesus saith unto him, Then are the children free.
27 Notwithstanding, lest we should offend them, go thou to the sea, and cast an hook, and take up the fish that first cometh up; and when thou hast opened his mouth, thou shalt find a piece of money: that take, and give unto them for me and thee.
BTW, in case it wasn't clear, I respect your journey and, if I may call it such, your search for the truth. I was speaking for me, not for you.
If I may take another liberty, if God exists, as I believe He does, and as you describe in your questions above, doesn’t it also seem logical that some of His reasoning and some of His actions would or could be beyond our comprehension?
It's impossible for us to fathom just as it would be impossible for us to create Heaven and Earth. Yet here we are.
But God was the "something" that has always existed. That was my point. The Great I AM who lives outside time and the universe in Eternity. If you haven't watched the video I linked, I highly recommend it. There are some WOWs in there that will pleasantly surprise you coming from a secular presentation.
Some of it reminded me of Chuck Missler if you are familiar.
The Milky Way is probably full of dead alien civilizations, according to physicists — Mic
Humans have spent centuries wondering if there is other intelligent life among us in the galaxy and decades actively searching for it. It turns out the Milky Way may have once been full of bustling alien civilizations, but they are all dead now.…
Why not? We're not puppets on strings. You see, if God created us, it is most reasonable to suggest He knows way, way more than we do. That's where faith comes in: believing in the unseen. Do you believe only on your senses and nothing within the spirit world?
You haven't responded to my earlier thread aimed at you about abortion. You're a fake!!
Yes.
Anything else that my senses can't detect or explain fall into the category of supernormal, things that science hasn't explained yet.
I don't take orders from you. I have stated my position many times. You are just too obsequious to comprehend.
But how did the scientist get to be so omnipotent? And BTW, I appreciate the back and forth. It's interesting.
"obsequious" not sure how that relates to our outlook. I gave you your Church's stance on abortion from the Catechism itself and you conveniently ignored it. I'd be rather concerned about that more than being concerned about me and my obsequious-ness. lol.
I don't think science, or scientists, are infallible. I am, however, not spiritually evolved enough to believe something in absence of proof. As I said before, the point of faith is belief. If you had proof, you wouldn't need faith.
You are correct. You are a "until I stick my finger into the nail holes I will not believe" kind of guy. Jesus finally appeared and doubting Thomas said, "My Lord and my God." Jesus replied, "You saw and believed. Blessed are those who do not see and yet believe." There is another scripture verse I can relate to because there are many a day I still have doubts. It's okay to doubt. The verse is this: "I believe - help my unbelief." Man, I live that one daily. Not trying to convert you or anything - just enjoying the back and forth. Unlike @BSC911 I can't get anything through his thick skull and he's supposed to be a believer. In what I haven't a clue.
I know what the church’s position is. I happen to agree with it, as I’ve stated many times.
So what?
I am not a Pentecostal or Charismatic but I have had personal experiences with God. This is all the proof I have or need. As it is mine I can not "show" it to you but only tell you about it. I pray that someday He reveals Himself to you in the same way so that you can believe as I do.
I wasn't. Written word vs the spoken. When I came back later and read it, it sounded wound up to me as well.
Not how I intended it.
Correct...faith would be called proof. And that is exactly why we will never have proof imho. God wants us to act on faith.
