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@sadgator's hero Praying Medic, who lives in Arizona, has a theory.
He said originally, Maricopa County said tonight's drop would only have early ballots. Then later, they said it would include day of ballots.
The drop size is the same as the one from last night that was only ED ballots AND it broke 54% for dems, same as this drop.
As soon as this dropped, the race was called in AZ SOS.
Last night's drop:
Tonight's drop that's supposed to include day of ballots:
Almost the same. I think he's right.
PS: Oops forgot the theory LMAO He thinks Maricopa lied about the drop being ED and Day of. He thinks it was only ED ballots.
Perhaps this was a ploy to get media to call the Masters and Finchem races, then Hobbs can continue dropping ED ballots, but claim they are Day of. Do it a few more times and the media will call the Governor and AG races as well.
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At minimum, Hobbs is only dropping the ballots that favor her. I do like PM's theory that she's dropping ED ballots and claiming they are actually day of.
If that happens then all we can do is support Herschel in the GA runoff and hope he wins to maintain the current 50-50 split.
Laxalt’s campaign “bracing for loss”
Why we continue to think these are real elections is beyond my comprehension at this point.
We pay attention to these, and analyze counties, where and what types of votes they are. Why? We know what’s going on yet continue to treat it like it’s real.
Someone help me understand why we continue to number crunch, and act like these are real elections/votes in these states that keep counting for days after the election. We continue to point fingers and blame trump. It’s nuts. At what point …. Oh nevermind.
We are in a movie, it’s time to stop falling for Lucy and her football folks.
Back to my porch to wait.
We pay attention to these, and analyze counties, where and what types of votes they are. Why? We know what’s going on yet continue to treat it like it’s real.
Someone help me understand why we continue to number crunch, and act like these are real elections/votes in these states that keep counting for days after the election. We continue to point fingers and blame trump. It’s nuts. At what point …. Oh nevermind.
We are in a movie, it’s time to stop falling for Lucy and her football folks.
Back to my porch to wait.
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I share your frustration. That said, there’s been a lot of talk in this thread and others on this board about “porch sitting”.
Given that the Constitution empowers the states to set their own election laws and procedures, what can I, as a resident of Indiana, do about election irregularities both real and perceived, in Arizona, Pennsylvania, etc.? I won’t deny that the elections in those states are shit shows, and I don’t like it, but what can you and I do about it?
Should I contact my congressman and senators to tell them to these other states that they need to change their election laws and procedures? Should we amend the Constitution to federalize the election process and force states to have standardized procedures? I love the way Florida conducts their vote count, and Indiana is fairly efficient as well. I believe a fast, efficient, and transparent vote count goes a long way to ensuring confidence in the fairness of the outcome. But again, how can we who live in other states effect change in AZ, PA, etc.? With all due respect I don’t see how us bitching on a message board will bring about the needed change.
I think the biggest thing is to stop treating it like it’s a real election “just get out and vote” and thinking that’s ALL we can do and shrug and move on.
Get active with local groups that protest, when someone says “election denier” we don’t shy away from it like it makes us uncomfortable. Fight back, refer to them as election thiefs, push back, whatever it takes.
I am not advocating revolution, but this country would have never been founded if a bunch of folks that were being taxed to oblivion sat around going 🤷♂️…..what are we supposed to do?
It’s a fair question for sure, but how many on this board have called their government officials? Protested? Poll watched? Had conversations where someone talked badly about Jan 6th, election deniers, etc…..and said nothing back? Or just moved on, and said 2020 election is over, let’s move on to the next thing? WE (yes that includes myself) have to get more involved. How many on this board (as an example) are involved? The only way to influence narrative, is to engage in it, even if in another state.
Trying to think what practically it will mean not winning the Senate again while barely taking the House. I guess the main thing it does is throw away the Senate's ability to slow walk judges that last year and to force them to put forth someone not super crazy left on the appeals courts. Really don't care we wont have Senate hearings on Biden and Hunter as they are a joke anyway compared to the House hearings. Not taking the House would have been a catastrophe.
It will kneecap the fake investigations. IMO.
It will influence narrative for sure. You will hear mantra from media that pubs have no mandate, and the public is ok with Bidens agenda. It will put pressure on house pubs to go along with it, and to do no investigations. Just off the top of my head.
Guys, part of my frustration is that I have destroyed my body in service to a country I no longer recognize. It pains me to no end, but I am willing to do more.
I am gonna fight. It’s all I know to do. Sorry, move on doesn’t compute for me.
@ghost_of_ukalum1988 asked a great question. One small thing I did on Friday, was contact both my senators to voice my election concerns, and recommended the removal of Rino Mitch from a position of power. I mean, folks are mad at Trump, yet he supported our candidates. Mitch did everything he could to sabotage them so he could remain in power.
I am gonna fight. It’s all I know to do. Sorry, move on doesn’t compute for me.
@ghost_of_ukalum1988 asked a great question. One small thing I did on Friday, was contact both my senators to voice my election concerns, and recommended the removal of Rino Mitch from a position of power. I mean, folks are mad at Trump, yet he supported our candidates. Mitch did everything he could to sabotage them so he could remain in power.
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The House needs to go scorched earth with the hearings on the Bidens and them getting the kickbacks from China and Ukraine etc. and also drag the crooked FBI in there on why they were covering all that mess up.
Now is the time politically Mitch could be tossed as the Senate didn't go well and how he starved certain candidates to keep Murkowski in power. With Rubio (establishment himself) bringing it up maybe Scott (a compromise) could be put in charge.
That's actually incredibly powerful.
When we ALL start speaking the truth about what's happening, then it will affect change. The problem we have is the media is desperately trying to brand us as 'election deniers' and so many people don't want to set themselves up for abuse by criticizing the process. So they keep their mouths shut and stick to the 'I'll just do my part AND VOTE and that's all I can do.'
It isn't. We have FAR more power than we realize. Simply saying OUT LOUD that they are cheating and we need to stop the corruption and have FREE AND FAIR elections is about the most powerful thing that can happen.
If every single person in the country believed and said outloud that we are having corrupt elections and demand we have election integrity, it would happen.
Overnight.
We need to face reality: The people that we have entrusted to lead our nation, are criminals. They have created a system of power to enrich themselves, at our expense. They use elections to stay in power and enable them to continue to perform corruption.
@jfegaly gets upset that this continues to happen. I get that totally, but what he and others like him need to keep in mind is that WE ARE WINNING! Every day, more people wake up and see what is happening. Every day. it becomes a bit easier to expose the corruption.
20-30 years from now we will look back on this time and realize this was the turning point. We will reflect on how we thought we were losing the country, and in fact we were retaking it.
Stop getting discouraged, stop listening to the media telling you that you are an 'election denier'. Stop thinking you can only keep your mouth shut and vote.
Bitch. Raise hell. Say OUT LOUD that they are cheating and WE AREN'T HAVING IT.
We are winning. Keep going till we have won.
Its crazy to hear but if the Dems took all these seats that are still up for grabs they would retain the House:
#AZ01, #AZ06, #CA13, #CA22, #CA41, #WA03
My guess now is it ends up 220-215 Rep lead. Kent looks like he is in real trouble in #WA03.
#AZ01, #AZ06, #CA13, #CA22, #CA41, #WA03
My guess now is it ends up 220-215 Rep lead. Kent looks like he is in real trouble in #WA03.
Both of my senators (Todd Young & Mike Braun) are part of the Senate GOP caucus. I plan to contact both of them to ask them to consider someone else (almost anyone else) to replace McConnell as caucus leader. The previous respect and esteem I had for him is gone.
NO WAY we win any of these remaining races.....We did not win any in 2020...and will not win any of these. Laxalt will mysteriously lose, so will Lake.Finally found a site with live results:
Kari is only down by 4k votes now. Expect them to 'find' more votes soon.
But then again...you cannot let someone piss on your head, and try to tell you it is raining....I KNOW they stole the election. Proof enough is FJB getting 81 million votes. There is NO WAY...NO HOW
If Lake lost it would 100% be fraud as that shouldnt even be a possibility with what has been ran in AZ so far. Its crazy some of the markets are favoring Hobbs though. Laxalt appears to be finished if the remaining votes in Clark are urban as they claim.
It’s Occam’s razor guys. Is it elaborate voter fraud or is it simply republicans running far right candidates that are scaring independents off?
The elections in my area are clean, or certainly seem to be. Solid red for state elections, local races make total sense, etc.
I checked wifi and saw no evidence of my tabulator being hooked to the internet…no modem visible, they had me wait until it said it accepted my ballot…
That’s the issue. We don’t have widespread fraud. We have very deep fraud in a few targeted locations. That’s all the Left needs.
The other very simple explanation is Dems have controlled strategic population centers for decades and that’s where the fraud comes from. You see it every cycle.
Maricopa
Philly
Atlanta
Milwaukee
Detroit
Control 5-6 cities’ elections and you control the country, R’s got 6MM more total votes. People aren’t “scared”. Turnout was solid. They just cheat strategically while we raise our palms and say “oh well”.
It doesn’t need to be elaborate, and dems are the party of extremism. They cheat to win elections. If only the media reported on it.
There is no damn reason elections cannot be completed on election day other than the desire to steal elections. In 1980, elections were complete on election day. 40 years later, the most technologically advanced nation on earth, takes days and weeks to count votes. It’s disgusting. Dems are election thieves. It is what it is
Again brother. We continue to think precincts matter, what type of ballots matter etc. It doesn’t.
What does matter? The rules of engagement and who is counting/controlling the election.
Hallelujah!!!
Accept no other answer folks. Dems are election thieves. Period.
Pubs that caved to the pressure of being called “election deniers” out of fear put themselves and the country in a real pickle. Yet another reason you never compromise with dems and their media.
Human nature is caving to peer pressure, now is the time to say hell no we won’t.
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Restricting voting access isn’t a hallmark of a healthy democracy. Stop making candidates like Marjorie Taylor green the face of your party and independents will vote for republicans again.
Nobody is restricting access. It is not hard to get ones lazy ass to a place to vote. Period
Elections are being stolen. It is what it is. You support election thieves. I feel sorry for you.
Americans are being disenfranchised.
Oh, and we aren’t a democracy. We are a Republic.
Lol that ya’ll still believe in election fraud…
Go America! Go President Biden! sadgator loves his country!!!!
Go America! Go President Biden! sadgator loves his country!!!!
At this point, even the sheep have to admit that Hobbs is cherry-picking the ballots to release to make her look at favorable as possible.
The question is why is she doing this?
She's now in a corner: Almost all the ballots left are day of, and will break heavily for Kari/Abe/Mark/Blake. At minimum by a 60/40 ratio, possibly as high as 80/20.
I only see two options:
1 - Release any few remaining drops that favor her, then once it's down to only strong pub drops, stop releasing any drops. Today is Sat so no/few drops today and tomorrow wouldn't raise serious suspicions. Hold out till Tuesday or so, then dump everything. All of the 4 pubs make massive moves, all 4 end up winning, then spin that it was the PUBS that cheated. How else do you explain the dems being ahead the whole time, then right at the end the pubs win bigly????? Gotta be cheating!!!!
2 - Cheat anyway. Everyone knows Kari and Abe are going to win, at minimum. Everyone is watching the election like a hawk. Screw it, cheat anyway, hope the activist judges toss any challenges in court.
If they can cheat, they will. If they don't think they can get away with the cheating, they might do it anyway. If they don't cheat, then they hand the governor's house and AG office to people who have said they will investigate what happened during this election.
And we all know what they will find. I think they have to cheat, it's survival at this point.
