The TDS is strong with this one.
More info on the steal
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Theres a home down the street, not ocean front, about a tenth the size that recently sold for around 70 mil…so theres that.
I just posted an article from 2020 where a nearby small lot with a vacant house sold for nearly $20MM, in 2018.
It’s a joke and for anyone to try to maintain credibility while backing that valuation is laughable.
We have the absolute worst trolls on Al Gore’s amazing invention.
I don't believe this has been posted on the board yet. MORE evidence regarding the STEAL. 
This is even worse than the "Swindle in the Swamp" . (aptly named though)
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This is even worse than the "Swindle in the Swamp" . (aptly named though)
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Wrong. The NY case is a civil case, not a criminal one. For a plaintiff to prevail in a civil court it must be proven there was economic loss. Where's the loss? The banks got paid, everyone is happy.........except the witchhunting Democrats in NYC.
Rando on Twitter! Doesn't count! If it was real, someone would do something, I refuse to believe RINOs work with dems!
But hey I'm on your side! If they are cheating, stop them! But no one is so I guess that means no cheating. Just move on! Please, for the love of God!
Which is why it will get overturned on appeal. The judge made his decision before the trial began. Trumps attorneys strategy has been for appeal since the beginning. They have done a brilliant job getting the judge to expose his bias.Wrong. The NY case is a civil case, not a criminal one. For a plaintiff to prevail in a civil court it must be proven there was economic loss. Where's the loss? The banks got paid, everyone is happy.........except the witchhunting Democrats in NYC.
His agenda stands square in the way of FACTS.
LOL, this is just too typical. There are 100's of facts in that case.....and you pick out the ONE fact that might be in Trump's favor and accuse the judge of missing the facts........you just can't make this stuff up.
Yes the property would be worth more than the property tax appraisal, everybody would agree with that and the judge should probably have never brought that up, but its a drop in the bucket to the whole case. What you can't get around are facts like Trump saying his Trump towers apartment is 3 times bigger than it really is. That's just blatant fraud. I suspect what happened here is that Trump was concerned that somebody at Deutsch Bank might know what the approximate value per square foot was in Trump tower, so he couldn't just inflate that so he had to find another way to falsify the value. But there is lots of other evidence in the case that looks bad for Trump.
Somebody above said it will be appealed on the basis that nobody lost money. Losing revenue IS losing money. If you don't get your paycheck.......is it "no big deal" because you haven't lost money? The banks lost hundreds of millions on this deal. Its an argument that can fool a lot of the John Q public, but doesn't have much of a chance in court. Sorta "Trumpism" in a nutshell. Certainly this will be appealed, but this argument is a loser.
Another thing that needs to be considered is that the value of the properties we are talking about is the fair value at the time the financial statements were presented to the banks........not the values today. The was all pretty much before the big real estate boom of the last several years (the financial statements in questions go from 2011-2021 I believe). And much of this was before Trump was president......back when few people knew what Mar-a-lago was. It was a lot less famous and not the residence of a president back then......so likely a lot less valuable.
What is the evidence? You see somebody putting ballots in a box, how do you even know if its a republican or democrat?
But the general answer is, nobody could have done this enough to effect the outcome. If we were just talking about Georgia.....what, 12K votes? Maybe you can argue this made a difference.....but Trump needed to flip 3 states. The numbers are just way to big for this to be a significant factor. 2,000 mules is nowhere near enough.
But this isn't just my conclusion......its the conclusion of Trump's own people who where running the election and his AG. And as we are finding out in the Georgia trial, the conclusion of most of the people around Trump.
Every single election we have had undoubtedly included some cheating. On both sides. With this many people its just inevitable. But the question has always been is there a way to do it such big numbers that one side can sway the outcome. I still believe with the checks and balances we have in place its almost impossible to do.
The real crime committed here by Trump is simply making this accusation and continuing to push it forward like he has (in every way) without any evidence. Essentially Trump made the accusation and unleashed his minions to try and go find something to support his contention.....which is a terrible thing to put the country through and is what Al Gore and Hillary Clinton didn't do even though they both thought they where cheated. 3 years later and they still have nothing of substance. But it has done great damage to the acceptance of our future elections....that's for sure.
Ask yourself why a guy who is running behind in the polls and who never had a favorability rating during his entire presidency above 50% would be telling his people during the campaign that the only way he is going to lose is if the other sides cheats.
Sorry Theo......most of this answer is not aimed at you........I just figured since I was typing a post I would hit a few other areas.
Hundreds of millions in damages would pay for a TON of lawyers.
Why aren't the banks bringing the case?
Oh that's right, because all of the loans were repaid on time and they actually made money on the deal.
Only case I've ever seen where the claimant isn't suing for damages...and isn't even involved in the case.
It's almost like the cast is about politics and not the law...
You know what Trump didn't do?
Spend $10MM of donor money to make a fake dossier and use it to weaponize the justice system against the opposition party.
But I guess that isn't a crime in your book...
Let me MURDER your argument RIGHT NOW. NO real estate lender EVER lends money of an applicants GUESS as to what property is worth.. EVER. They use CRA's to value property. Secondly...there were ZERO losses. Financial statements...like I TOLD you before mean VERY, VERY little in lending money. gain..I WAS A MORTGAGE BROKER. So quit with you BS until you study up on the subject. NO ONE on earth gives accurate financial statements..and THAT is why banks do not pay much attention to them, and they mean VERY LITTLE in loan approval. 1. ABILITY to repay. 2.History of repayment. 3 LTV. These are the main factors banks look at. Financial statements are eye candy...no more.
You have zero clue what Trump does or doesn't have. Even if he had nothing, that would hardly be a crime.
But again, your girl Hillary actually DID what you claim Trump did. Actually she did one better: She lied about the election then MANUFACTURED EVIDENCE of Trump stealing the election with Russia.
And you said nothing. Because you are a partisan hack.
We know exactly who it was aimed at: The posters who you are lying about having on Ignore.
Let me ask you a simple question. How in the hell does a bank ascertain A business "ability to repay". You said that's your #1 thing.....well, how do they determine that? There is one primary tool.....what is it?
I suspect you where a mortgage broker for residential lending.....which is a completely different animal.
Companies pay hundreds of thousands of dollars every year to have their financial statements audited because banks require them and they require them to be accurate. I work with this stuff all the time.
And I already explained to you the simple concept of losing revenue is losing money. How many on here are willing to work all week and not get a paycheck? Why do you care if its not "losing money"?
Your in way over your head on this one my friend.
Maroooon. Once again, the entire case is for civil court. Who suffered economic damages? Do you NOT understand this concept? Are you losing a bet on the outcome? Are you a new party to the suit? 😂
No one suffered any financial losses, which is why the banks didn’t bring the suit.
Does anyone really think massive commercial banking institutions would lose “hundreds of millions” and just shrug it off?
You’re not arguing with a serious person.
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Provable income. Tax statments
LOL.........you mean like Trumps 1040? The one where he made no money and paid $750 in tax several years in a row? Are you trying to be funny?
Let me ask you Ron.....which tax statements do the banks want to see? 1040? Trumps W-2s? 1099s? Maybe his 1065's as I have read he has close to 100 entities.....or maybe 1120S, or his k-1's? Which of those will give you his "provable income". Which of those forms will tell the bank the values of Trumps assets? Which of those forms will give the banks Trumps cash flow? Which will show the banks Trumps existing debt and the terms of that debt? Which will show them Trumps total Equity?
Maybe your talking about property tax statements......because those at least make an attempt at assessing a value?
Do you understand there is a difference between taxable income and financial income......which you can't see at all on a 1040? Do you understand depreciation and how important that is to a real estate venture? And how much it can distort earnings? Do you understand that an entities tax return starts with the entities financial statement?
Do you understand any of this? Because this is a sample of the very basics of what you need to know before you would make statements like you have.
You do realize that we are trying to support loans in the hundreds of millions of dollars. So please consider that before you answer. Because all your answers up to now have been the kind that you would have for a simple mom and pop home mortgage. A totally different world that has no applicability to big dollar finance.
I have tried not to embarrass you with all this, but you won't quit. I would have thought that it would have occurred to you before now that I might actually know what I am talking about with this stuff.
Yeah you've really got him on the ropes.
Where is the evidence?
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As far as Trumps people, folks need to learn the importance of interpreting what they read. Literally.
For example, I can “lose” because something was stolen. No different than Michigan can win, because they were cheating.
Quit conflating someone saying we lost, with…fraud didn’t happen. Learn to actually comprehend what you read, instead of reading something to confirm bias.
As far as knowing what you’re talking about? You don’t.
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From the American Bar:
"The vast majority of courts agree that lost profits may be either direct or consequential damages, depending on the circumstances surrounding the particular contract and parties."
Pretty black and white. Lots of court cases to support. No way they would have proceeded with this without this part being pretty much iron clad. Now its a matter of proving the lost revenue, which is what they are going through.
"The vast majority of courts agree that lost profits may be either direct or consequential damages, depending on the circumstances surrounding the particular contract and parties."
Pretty black and white. Lots of court cases to support. No way they would have proceeded with this without this part being pretty much iron clad. Now its a matter of proving the lost revenue, which is what they are going through.
Who are you talking to? Someone you claim to have on fake Ignore?
Wait, WHAT? What exactly are you crying about? Creditors got paid. Zero damages, no case. Trump overvalued properties? Who lost revenue? He certainly wasn't trying to get his real estate appraisals and therefore taxes lowered in that case. Whoopsie!!
This just in: Banks were defrauded “hundreds of millions of dollars” and sat idly by and waited for a DA to ride in on a white horse 😂
Oh, and Mar-a-Lago is worth $18MM 😂😂😂🤡
