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Misdemeanor Trial is Monday...what happens with Dalvin Cook?

What happens with Dalvin Cook?

  • Found guilty of misdemeanor and suspended from play

    Votes: 3 7.5%
  • Acquitted and plays first game

    Votes: 22 55.0%
  • Acquitted and doesn't play first game

    Votes: 7 17.5%
  • Plea deal and doesn't play first game

    Votes: 2 5.0%
  • Plea deal and plays first game

    Votes: 6 15.0%

  • Total voters
    40
  • Poll closed .
That witness sounded like a total plant. You probably need video to nail an FSU player for a charge like this in Tally.

He is probably just suspended for the opening game if even that.
 
Name one that would kick him off. FSU did suspend him

For how many games? - we will see

We kicked off our player for a different offense that he will probably be found not guilty or get the charges dropped if they can't find the assailants who did the actual robbery and he didn't even physically take part in it.
 
Many places would suspend/kick him off the team just for being charged with that in the current environment.

I doubt it and if so that is wrong.

Another great example of Jimbo not bowing to media pressure and sticking up for his wrongfully accused players.
 
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For how many games? - we will see

We kicked off our player for a different offense that he will probably be found not guilty or get the charges dropped if they can't find the assailants who did the actual robbery and he didn't even physically take part in it.


No need to suspend him now that he has been acquitted. As for your guy, he was suspected of armed robbery, a crime that will get you life in prison. Huge difference.
 
You didn't kick off your QB suspected of Rape?

The victim recanted her story and the charge was dropped. Totally different scenario than a jury finding you not guilty in a criminal case where the victim identifies him as the assailant.
 
The victim recanted her story and the charge was dropped. Totally different scenario than a jury finding you not guilty in a criminal case where the victim identifies him as the assailant.

The victim never recanted. She decided she didn't want to go forward with prosecution.
 
Cook's been suspended from the team since June based on a story that didn't hold up. I don't expect him to be suspended further.
 
Thought Cook said he wasn't there? But then he is? whos story changed?

That was never said at any point by the state or defense. Cook was recorded as saying, "I don't remember hitting anyone." But never said (at least not revealed yesterday) that he wasn't there. Testimony by both sides stated that Cook was the "peacemaker". ...of course that's until he punched the accuser several times. Like I said yesterday, both sides sounded sketchy. The only person who sounded lucid and consistent was the FSU student plant (shout out to danoleman)
 
That was never said at any point by the state or defense. Cook was recorded as saying, "I don't remember hitting anyone." But never said (at least not revealed yesterday) that he wasn't there. Testimony by both sides stated that Cook was the "peacemaker". ...of course that's until he punched the accuser several times. Like I said yesterday, both sides sounded sketchy. The only person who sounded lucid and consistent was the FSU student plant (shout out to danoleman)


Boom!!! Now that we have that distraction out of the way, it's time for some football!
 
The Victim as U call her, didn't recant her story. She said she was threatened and asked for the right to reopen in the future.
 
I'm curious about the ASA cross examination of this witness.

Prosecutor Cross-examine:

- Prosecutor asked Jenkins for details of whether Madison hit Rudolph with a punch or a slap. Jenkins said he's not entirely sure because it was fast. Prosecutor points out that when she interviewed Jenkins last week that he said the whole group looked intoxicated.

- Prosecutor asks if he's an FSU student and an FSU fan, and he says yes. Jenkins then says again that he wasn't drinking that night, but there will be charges on his credit card from that night because he owed a friend money and paid him back by buying drinks.

- Prosecutor asked why he didn't provide his friends' phone numbers to investigators. Jenkins says they (investigators) never called him back to ask for their numbers. (to verify his story)

- Jenkins said he got involved in the case because he saw ESPN article about case and knew he had info that would help. So he made a Facebook post venting about the Justin Rossi witness. Said he didn't call police earlier because he didn't want to get involved in the case.

- Prosecutor asks if he [Jenkins] ignored phone calls or voice mails from investigator Federico. He says "that's a lie." He said he doesn't have any calls from the investigator.

- On redirect from defense, Jenkins says he hasn't been paid by anyone to help defense. No one asked him to help defense, etc. ... He also says he wouldn't have left the scene if the girls were in trouble. He says he would have called 911 himself if he saw girl get hit.

- Prosecutor asks one final followup -- asks Jenkins for his phone number.

/end cross examine

Of Note:

-- Officer Federico back on stand. On cross, the defense gets Federico to admit that Justin Rossi told him a "guy named Grant [Jenkins]" was at the scene and gave him a phone number. But he never tracked Grant down.
 
Prosecutor Cross-examine:

- Prosecutor asked Jenkins for details of whether Madison hit Rudolph with a punch or a slap. Jenkins said he's not entirely sure because it was fast. Prosecutor points out that when she interviewed Jenkins last week that he said the whole group looked intoxicated.

- Prosecutor asks if he's an FSU student and an FSU fan, and he says yes. Jenkins then says again that he wasn't drinking that night, but there will be charges on his credit card from that night because he owed a friend money and paid him back by buying drinks.

- Prosecutor asked why he didn't provide his friends' phone numbers to investigators. Jenkins says they (investigators) never called him back to ask for their numbers. (to verify his story)

- Jenkins said he got involved in the case because he saw ESPN article about case and knew he had info that would help. So he made a Facebook post venting about the Justin Rossi witness. Said he didn't call police earlier because he didn't want to get involved in the case.

- Prosecutor asks if he [Jenkins] ignored phone calls or voice mails from investigator Federico. He says "that's a lie." He said he doesn't have any calls from the investigator.

- On redirect from defense, Jenkins says he hasn't been paid by anyone to help defense. No one asked him to help defense, etc. ... He also says he wouldn't have left the scene if the girls were in trouble. He says he would have called 911 himself if he saw girl get hit.

- Prosecutor asks one final followup -- asks Jenkins for his phone number.

/end cross examine

Of Note:

-- Officer Federico back on stand. On cross, the defense gets Federico to admit that Justin Rossi told him a "guy named Grant [Jenkins]" was at the scene and gave him a phone number. But he never tracked Grant down.

IMO - very ineffective cross examination

No question to Jenkins, after confirming he saw everything, asking him if he saw the victim get struck in the face? saw police arrive? about the police being on scene almost immediately (~5 minutes) after the altercation? Where were you during that 5 minutes? What were you doing during that 5 minutes? Why did you leave the scene? When did you find out Cook was arrested? Who was your first call made to? When was it made? Never called police? never called SAO? Now here you are, with a story that completely exonerates your favorite team's best player two weeks before the first game?

I'll beat you to it fellas....I'm gonna to let it go. Just a little vent session.

one last thing.... I'm the sober guy with a large bar tab because all my friends drank off it - GTFOH
 
That witness sounded like a total plant. You probably need video to nail an FSU player for a charge like this in Tally.

He is probably just suspended for the opening game if even that.

No suspension whatsoever and I agree with that. Even without the last witness, the state totally torpedoed their own case by calling up the other FSU players. If Megg's only "evidence" was the drunk accuser and her drunk friend, he is going senile. Why Megg's team paraded FSU player after FSU player on the stand to say...no drinking no hit is beyond me. That is why I was so sure that the case would not make it to the 24th, but I underestimated the vendetta Meggs has towards FSU football players.

I laughed my ass off when I saw he wanted to introduce a fake twitter account as evidence in hope of luring Dalvin to the stand. Slime ball move.
 
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IMO - very ineffective cross examination

No question to Jenkins, after confirming he saw everything, asking him if he saw the victim get struck in the face? saw police arrive? about the police being on scene almost immediately (~5 minutes) after the altercation? Where were you during that 5 minutes? What were you doing during that 5 minutes? Why did you leave the scene? When did you find out Cook was arrested? Who was your first call made to? When was it made? Never called police? never called SAO? Now here you are, with a story that completely exonerates your favorite team's best player two weeks before the first game?

I'll beat you to it fellas....I'm gonna to let it go. Just a little vent session.

one last thing.... I'm the sober guy with a large bar tab because all my friends drank off it - GTFOH

Is it possible that bench-warmers (on both sides) were used because this was a misdemeanor case? Also, what I posted wasn't an "official" transcript (is that available); it was simply a staff-writer typing as things were said (hopefully everything).

If I were a judge (knowing nothing of the law), I'd have thrown everybody out for being idiots.
 
Bay, the process is a joke. They couldn't pin anything on J5 so they went here. As bad as the one and only witness was for the defense was the 2 drunk girls for the ASA. Media and pressure to convict ruled the day here. A total and complete waste of time and resources.
 
This kind of police investigation and trail by jury only happen in Tallahassee and third world countries.
What a wonderful job by the state attorney's office, LOL.
 
IMO - very ineffective cross examination

No question to Jenkins, after confirming he saw everything, asking him if he saw the victim get struck in the face? saw police arrive? about the police being on scene almost immediately (~5 minutes) after the altercation? Where were you during that 5 minutes? What were you doing during that 5 minutes? Why did you leave the scene? When did you find out Cook was arrested? Who was your first call made to? When was it made? Never called police? never called SAO? Now here you are, with a story that completely exonerates your favorite team's best player two weeks before the first game?

I'll beat you to it fellas....I'm gonna to let it go. Just a little vent session.

one last thing.... I'm the sober guy with a large bar tab because all my friends drank off it - GTFOH


"I believe him yo. I don't know why, but I do"
 
This kind of police investigation and trail by jury only happen in Tallahassee and third world countries.
What a wonderful job by the state attorney's office, LOL.

It was because there was no case to begin with. This should have never gone to trial. How in the world you can claim they are in the back pocket of FSU is beyond me? They arrested and charged FSU's best player and made him go to trial over a report by two intoxicated, underage women who couldnt even ID the person until days later who then admitted in court Cook was the peace keeper and even asked him to walk her to her car.
 
Interesting tidbits.

- Willie Meggs daughter was part of the jury pool
- Willie Meggs and Co.knew that the Twitter account they were trying to introduce as evidence was a fake...trying to draw Cook to the stand.
 
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