Interesting concept. I agree with you about just shifting the Alabama schools over and send Mizzou out west. Would make sense.
Looks like LSU has canned Coach O but will let him finish the season
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Yeah, I think it would almost have to be 9. WIth 16 teams, there are 12 outside your pod. So you play your 3 podmates, that leaves 6 games to be played amongst the other 12 teams. The math speaks for itself there.
IMO, the cross division games will be a bit more of a rolling format than playing everyone home and home in a 4 year stretch, this would mean two sets of two-year schedules, an "A" and a "B". It wouldn't be long before you would be looking at your "tough" two year schedule and your "easy" two year schedule. There are a few ways you could do this, but I think you would see a complete rotation through the conference being more of a 6 or 8 year format rather than 4.
As for the SECCG, it would just have to be a four team playoff. Fairest way to do it. What a road to an NC though! Two SEC playoff games then three or four CFP games (depending on seeding). You might well see teams play the SECCG the way the basketball tourney is played, with the teams that feel they have a guaranteed top 4 seed losing in the first round to avoid playing one game and getting an extra week of rest.
For an SEC team seeded 5-12 it could mean playing an 18 game schedule if they went to the title game. That's a lot of games. Might be time to start considering increasing the 85 scholly limit in CFB just to provide a bit more depth.
With the expanded playoff coming I doubt the SEC wants a 4 team deal for the SEC Championship. Even if they go to a pod system they might just take the 2 top teams.
He ws saying he believed they had there guy but some big money folks werent saying a peep.
He thought it was Matt Campbell. I dont think thats right though. I dont follow college ball like I usedto, but thats one coach that I have followed. I dont think he wants to ever leave there. He has got it made and he knows it.
I asked him if Hugh Freeze might be the one. He said there was too much stuff going on with them and whats on the come with the lawyers combing that place to do that right now. But hey--- weve all seen crazier.
He did say one thing that stuck - the wild card might be Urban Meyer. He may pack up and move on after this year and head back to college where he might be better set up to do his thing. His thing in the pro game - those guys dont care.
Matt Campbell would leave if he wants to have a chance at a championship. I wonder if most LSU fans would consider that a real good hire.
If you aren't going to have the pod winners play for the SEC title there is no reason to go to the pod system, just have two 8 team divisions. There is a reason everybody in each division plays each other now, to avoid ties. If you had two POD champions with the same record and didn't play each other, how would you break the tie without having something arbitrary be the deciding factor? And if you are going to have all the teams in the pods on the same side of the bracket play every year, why bother having pods?
well if they're going to have the 4 pod winners play eachother, I suggest an Eastern and Western Division of pods still exists.
Pods 1 and 2 in my scenario would be in the East and 3 and 4 in the west.
East plays in The Mercedes Benz Dome and West plays in NRG Stadium in Houston (or something like that).
then the finals is in the new Protective Stadium in Birmingham.
Probably something similar to some the the tiebreakers now. Head to head, record against common opponents and then best wins etc. I think that pod system would mostly just be to preserve the rivalry games and give some balance.
I'm sorry but if you're just tie breaking for the top two from the four pods, then what's the point?
explain to me how two 8 team divisions playing 10 conference games isn't better?
anyone here that can do the math for me on what a rotation would look like? No cross divisional fixed rivalries. So with the three extra games, how often do you round through the other division? Assuming home and homes (or if not, so be it)
explain to me how two 8 team divisions playing 10 conference games isn't better?
anyone here that can do the math for me on what a rotation would look like? No cross divisional fixed rivalries. So with the three extra games, how often do you round through the other division? Assuming home and homes (or if not, so be it)
I think without the pods it would be hard to keep the main rivalry games. Trying to think which ones are highest priority.
FL - GA
OK - TX
AL - TN (though TN is probably getting tired of the losses now)
AL- Auburn
MS St - Miss
If you put OK and TX in the west who do you eject from the west? I just don't think they would move AL and Auburn over and do some other east to west move though Missouri makes sense.
you literally move Alabama and Auburn to the East and move Mizzou to the West.
Its pretty easy. Keeps all the actual important rivals intact.
Yep but supposedly that isn't being seriously considered. Not sure why unless Bama and Auburn are really against it.
It would take 9 games, but it could look like this (assuming two East division pods and two West division pods:
3 games inside the pod. Two rotating games against the other pod in your division that are offset by one year. The other four games your pod plays one of the other two pods home and home then swaps.
So let's say it the pods you named and we are talking about UF.
Annual games against UGaly, UK, and USC.
For the second pod on our side, in year one let's say it's home against Auburn and away against Bama. Then in year two it's home against Bama and away against UT. Then in year three it's home against UT and away against Vandy, and in year four it's home against Vandy and away against Auburn. Lather, rinse, repeat.
For the 2 pods on the other side, it's home and home against Pod A then home and home against pod B.
What this does is give us a home and home against every team in every other pod every 4 years. It also gives us a minimum of seven common games with all our podmates. In fact, we could have all nine games in common with one other podmate if we were on the same rotation with them, would just have reversed home and aways with the other pod on our side. So we could literally eliminate the constant schedule advantage UGa seems to get over us almost every year.
Finally, this gives us a schedule that has one different opponent one year, then 5 different opponents the next year, then 1, then 5, etc etc.
I could get on board with that. You could be a senior and have played against every SEC team.
and I guess it works with a 9 game schedule. I really thought going to 10 would be the answer to make it work but if that math is correct, I think that's a win.
now I'm just hoping they go with this if they are going with pods.
If no pods here is what will look good.
East
Florida
Tennessee
Kentucky
Bama
Auburn
UGA
Vanderbilt
Carolina
West
Texas
Oklahoma
Missouri
Arkansas
Mississippi State
Ole Miss
LSU
A&M
Play 9 conference games. 7 division games 2 cross division games. Always rotate the 2 cross division games.
Too simple.
I'd also love to see us rotate the SECCG. Atlanta, Birmingham, Nashville, Jacksonville and/or Tampa, Houston and/or Dallas.
East
Florida
Tennessee
Kentucky
Bama
Auburn
UGA
Vanderbilt
Carolina
West
Texas
Oklahoma
Missouri
Arkansas
Mississippi State
Ole Miss
LSU
A&M
Play 9 conference games. 7 division games 2 cross division games. Always rotate the 2 cross division games.
Too simple.
I'd also love to see us rotate the SECCG. Atlanta, Birmingham, Nashville, Jacksonville and/or Tampa, Houston and/or Dallas.
yeah that's my example, but I don't understand why you wouldn't move to 10 games.
In that example 9 would be better, because then you would play 7 on your side, and on the the other have 2 rotating rivals and you could play a home and home with everybody in 8 years. With 10 it wouldn't work out evenly unless you had two permanent rivals and played the other 6 on a rotation that lasted 12 years.
So....LSU OFFICIAL PRIVATE JET LANDED IN mannassas Vurginia yesterday or today, a little
Unsure.
obviously talking to Hughe Freeze.
Unsure.
obviously talking to Hughe Freeze.
Me no like. takes too lpong to cycle through the other side. Kill all the traditional games and rotate thru as often as possible.
It's not a matter of cycling so much as not being even. If you played 10 games and had all rotating, then in the first two years it would be home and home against teams 1-3, the next two years it would be home and home against 4-6, then the next two years it would be teams 7,8, and 1 again. I mean, it could work, but then the full rotation of the schedule would take 16 years. Granted you would have three home and homes against each team on the other side during that time, but man, would it be complicated to put those schedules together.
Also, with 10 games, neither of us could ever have more than 6 home games a year, because you have the home and home with Tech and we have the home and home with FSU. With 10 conference games, our schedules would alternate 4 home 5 away 1 neutral and 5 home 4 away 1 neutral, so the rival game would have to offset the SEC schedule so we had 5-5-1 ever year, then an always home game against a lower team, so 6-5-1 every year. With 9 games in the SEC schedule the cross division works out evenly and we can each have a 4-4-1 distribution, which gives a lot more flexibility.
