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I wouldn't say "no chance". Every team has a chance every week. It's just not a good chance. Just like it's not a good chance that FSU will beat Clemson or Florida this year. Right now I'd give FSU a ~20% chance of winning at Clemson and a ~30% chance of winning at UF. I'd reverse those %'s for the 2016 games in Doak (knowing what we know now).

I read through this thread again, not to go unnoticed, you STILL haven't answered oozie's question to your ridiculous statement, now you're backing off LOL!
 
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And since when does a coaches' fist two years of their head coaching career define their entire career??
Remember that Jimbo was actually "running everything" in Bobby's final years. It's just a coincidence that our record went from 7 wins to 10+ after Bobby retired.
 
Sure, I didn't know that you thought that highly of Muschamp to state Fisher is slightly better. Over the last 3 years, Fisher has the best record of any coach and won a National Title while going undefeated. No Gator coach has that distinction. If you really feel that way about Muschamp, then why fire him if he was only slightly worse than a winning coach?

If that is the best logic you have, we better move on to other subjects or sports you can give better insight into.
Wow. I think this might be your first post in your one-day history of posting here that didn't mention Ga. Southern. Maybe if JD and I weren't such douches, you could make every post about that game.
 
Actually it destroys your point. You said "Jimbo, sans Winston, earned the moniker "four loss Fisher" for a reason". The year before Winston we went 12-2 and won the Orange Bowl so that "4 loss Fisher" moniker is not only stupid, it's incorrect.
I did say that. I also said that Fisher almost always had enough inexplicable losses each year to add up to 4 losses. That year was an exception to the 4 losses, but not to losing to inferior teams

NCState was an inexplicable loss right? How about the ass kicking Florida gave your team that year? Was that losing to a better team or was that loss also inexplicable?

We will let you decide.
 
Remember that Jimbo was actually "running everything" in Bobby's final years. It's just a coincidence that our record went from 7 wins to 10+ after Bobby retired.
He was certainly running the offense. The only year he has had a great offense was 2013.
 
Sure, I didn't know that you thought that highly of Muschamp to state Fisher is slightly better. Over the last 3 years, Fisher has the best record of any coach and won a National Title while going undefeated. No Gator coach has that distinction. If you really feel that way about Muschamp, then why fire him if he was only slightly worse than a winning coach?

If that is the best logic you have, we better move on to other subjects or sports you can give better insight into.
Great. And in four of his six years, he also loses to vastly inferior teams. So he has that going for him.
 
Actually it destroys your point. You said "Jimbo, sans Winston, earned the moniker "four loss Fisher" for a reason". The year before Winston we went 12-2 and won the Orange Bowl so that "4 loss Fisher" moniker is not only stupid, it's incorrect.

I agree. It is stupid and incorrect.
 
I agree. It is stupid and incorrect.
Of course it is not. Tell me a year, sans Winston, when Fisher did not lose to at least one vastly inferior team? And in two of the three he had four losses. That is two thirds. That is a majority. And he is well on his way this year for multiple losses, having already lost to a 2-5 team.

Four Loss Fisher, clap, clap clap clap.
 
Too bad Winston wasn't our starter in 12. We would have wrecked everyone on our schedule. Alabama got lucky they played an average ND.
 
Fisher has been head coach starting in 2010. He has completed 5 seasons and is currently 7 games through his 6th. In his first two seasons, he lost 4 games each. In the next three seasons, he lost a total of 3 games. So...in a majority of his tenure he's averaged one loss per year. That's actually most years. While you have excluded seasons to reach your conclusion, I've included them all.

In fact, it took 3 complete seasons and 7 games to lose a total of 4 games after his first two seasons.

Among head coaches of “Power Five” conference teams, Fisher’s 58 wins in his first five seasons are the most in history.

Clap clap clap clap
 
The butt hurt in this thread is wonderful. And the rationalizations of losing to a 2-5 team? My goodness, what fun to read!
 
NCState was an inexplicable loss right? How about the ass kicking Florida gave your team that year? Was that losing to a better team or was that loss also inexplicable?

We will let you decide.

So danoleman and nole, care to address this?
 
Fisher has been head coach starting in 2010. He has completed 5 seasons and is currently 7 games through his 6th. In his first two seasons, he lost 4 games each. In the next three seasons, he lost a total of 3 games. So...in a majority of his tenure he's averaged one loss per year. That's actually most years. While you have excluded seasons to reach your conclusion, I've included them all.

In fact, it took 3 complete seasons and 7 games to lose a total of 4 games after his first two seasons.

Among head coaches of “Power Five” conference teams, Fisher’s 58 wins in his first five seasons are the most in history.

Clap clap clap clap
That is fine. Tap your heels togehter three times and keep repeating this to yourself, if it will help you deal with the growing revelation that you have a coach that is a great recruiter, but is pretty average when it comes to, well, actually coaching.
 
That is fine. Tap your heels togehter three times and keep repeating this to yourself, if it will help you deal with the growing revelation that you have a coach that is a great recruiter, but is pretty average when it comes to, well, actually coaching.

By your metric Saban apparently never ever loses a game or is just pretty average. OK it seems titles, bowl wins, playoffs and NC don't factor much if you happen lose a game. Gottcha. You likely never even watch games since a 7 point dog can't have any chance to win.
 
Playing in the ACC hides a lot.
Shoot if Muschamp were coaching UF with an ACC schedule he would still be our coach.
 
Playing in the ACC hides a lot.
Shoot if Muschamp were coaching UF with an ACC schedule he would still be our coach.
This is true. Don't lose sight of the fact that fisher has only coached against 3-4 teams with a pulse per year. And still he had found a way to lose with vastly superior talent.
Only Richt is in his neighborhood. At least Georgia plays 8+ viable teams a year. But they still finish higher in recruiting rankings than they do in AP rankings EVERY SINGLE YEAR just like fsu
 
This is true. Don't lose sight of the fact that fisher has only coached against 3-4 teams with a pulse per year. And still he had found a way to lose with vastly superior talent.
Only Richt is in his neighborhood. At least Georgia plays 8+ viable teams a year. But they still finish higher in recruiting rankings than they do in AP rankings EVERY SINGLE YEAR just like fsu


Just another reality they hate to admit...they play one or two legit teams a season....the planets will not align again for jimbo like they did two years ago.
 
This is true. Don't lose sight of the fact that fisher has only coached against 3-4 teams with a pulse per year. And still he had found a way to lose with vastly superior talent.
Only Richt is in his neighborhood. At least Georgia plays 8+ viable teams a year. But they still finish higher in recruiting rankings than they do in AP rankings EVERY SINGLE YEAR just like fsu

Would be interesting to see the parameters to determine the 8+ viable teams that UGa. plays this year.
 
This is true. Don't lose sight of the fact that fisher has only coached against 3-4 teams with a pulse per year. And still he had found a way to lose with vastly superior talent.
Only Richt is in his neighborhood. At least Georgia plays 8+ viable teams a year. But they still finish higher in recruiting rankings than they do in AP rankings EVERY SINGLE YEAR just like fsu


Georgia plays two teams that are currently ranked. Alabama destroyed them and gators are the other one. But oh oh, the other SEC teams on their schedule are viable simply because they are, well, SEC teams. Correct??
 
What an idiot. We know he played you guys badly. That was 66% of the acc teams you are referring to. And the best ACC team at that.At least when he played you guys. Still his sec schedule compared to your ACC schedule as superior. Again he would still be our coach if he had that schedule.
Even you guys got exposed last year when you stepped out of the ACC.
 
Doubt it. He was 1-5 vs ACC teams in his tenure. Are you guys ever right about anything?
He was 1-3 against ONE acc team. The best one. The one that won 46 games and a NC during his 4 year tenure.
Now who were the other losses to? Louisville wasn't an acc team when Florida played them and has since lost their coach and subsequently started sucking since joining the conference. And I can't seem to recall another acc team on the schedule the last 4 years
So I think OP is correct, if chump had a chance to replace Bama and LSU and the like with wake and duke and the acc he would still be our coach. Thank God for small favors.
 
Actually, if you go over the the FSU sports , many, many of the fans over there understand how mediocre FSU is this year. Seems we get most of the delusional ones here.


did you read my post on their board last night after you posted and how I always get attacked like im an absolute joke AND a female btw now to fit their narrative. Singlegshot SAYS im trolling but then responds to everything I say with insults and pretends im a fraud and a troll but treats me like im a real poster, pick one if you know so much about football and pretty much everything about life better than everyone else while putting everyone down like me in the process... That guy does nothing but make excuses while calling me little brother and saying im looking for acceptance LMAO



Selective focus. You're only interested in what supports your conclusion (a conclusion that you came to before Fisher had coached a single game btw). You love to bring up 2014, but what about 2013? Didn't FSU go 14-0 with an average margin of victory of like 52-10? You're pride and fan loyalty is clouding your judgement on this one. Arguing that a 6th year HC with an .841 winning % and a natty is "average" is literally insane.

You mean fsu doing for once what they are supposed to do in the ACC and then should have lost to that "lucky" SEC team that blew that like 21-6 lead on faked punt before half and only lost because they couldn't even play prevent defense right on a 5 yard hitch route that turned into a 60 yard play that gave the game away.
 
He was 1-3 against ONE acc team. The best one. The one that won 46 games and a NC during his 4 year tenure.
Now who were the other losses to? Louisville wasn't an acc team when Florida played them and has since lost their coach and subsequently started sucking since joining the conference. And I can't seem to recall another acc team on the schedule the last 4 years
So I think OP is correct, if chump had a chance to replace Bama and LSU and the like with wake and duke and the acc he would still be our coach. Thank God for small favors.

Miami. Not counting Louisville, how convenient. A loss is a loss. Don't really know why you think you'd have done any better against Clemson, GT, VT, yes Duke etc. Those teams would have beaten you the same as Bammer and LSU.

You mean fsu doing for once what they are supposed to do in the ACC and then should have lost to that "lucky" SEC team that blew that like 21-6 lead on faked punt before half and only lost because they couldn't even play prevent defense right on a 5 yard hitch route that turned into a 60 yard play that gave the game away.

Actually it was 21-3, corch. Of course once FSU stopped turning the ball over and giving up busted plays and settled down, well we rolled.
 
Miami. Not counting Louisville, how convenient. A loss is a loss. Don't really know why you think you'd have done any better against Clemson, GT, VT, yes Duke etc. Those teams would have beaten you the same as Bammer and LSU.



Actually it was 21-3, corch. Of course once FSU stopped turning the ball over and giving up busted plays and settled down, well we rolled.

HaHaHahaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa!
 
I read through this thread again, not to go unnoticed, you STILL haven't answered oozie's question to your ridiculous statement, now you're backing off LOL!

Why is it ridiculous? I know you don't like it, but you're 1-4 against Jimbo. Why is it ridiculous to suggest that a coach that has been lights out in rivalry games has a ~70% chance to beat a rival at home? You seem to think it's still 2006.
 
You have to understand that UF fans are pot committed regarding Fisher. These were the people that said he was Ron Zook 2.0 and they've already had to watch him hoist a crystal ball and go 1-4 against him. It's a weird dynamic for sure. Katy bar the door if they don't get us this year in the Swamp.

I'm not sure he is even Ron Zook 1.9

Both can recruit. However Zook beat Saban's national championship team by shutting out Fisher's lame offense. He also renamed Tallyho to Ron Zook field as a lame duck corch. Careful with those software upgrades, they can bite you in the ass. There is a glitch in Tally and it's not the hardware, it's the platform it's running on.
 
This is true. Don't lose sight of the fact that fisher has only coached against 3-4 teams with a pulse per year. And still he had found a way to lose with vastly superior talent.
Only Richt is in his neighborhood. At least Georgia plays 8+ viable teams a year. But they still finish higher in recruiting rankings than they do in AP rankings EVERY SINGLE YEAR just like fsu

Would be interesting to see the parameters to determine the 8+ viable teams that UGa. plays this year.
Admittedly Uga has a weaker schedule this year than most. But the original assertion was that for all the crap Richt takes for underachieving, Jimbo is arguably worse.
Uga has played Clemson, Boise, Arizona St, Colorado, Oklahoma St. ooc that I can remember. Then they play an 8 game SEC schedule every year, and let's not forget Ga Tech ( I dare you to argue that one) and a bowl game. So yeah, their schedule is infinitely harder than fsu EVERY year. To argue otherwise is the definition of delusional
Take a look at the last 15 years. Which teams have consistently had higher recruiting rankings than end of season poll rankings? Georgia and fsu are the poster children for that stat.

Now I'm going to take a shower. Defending uga makes me feel dirty
 
Why is it ridiculous? I know you don't like it, but you're 1-4 against Jimbo. Why is it ridiculous to suggest that a coach that has been lights out in rivalry games has a ~70% chance to beat a rival at home? You seem to think it's still 2006.
I hate to break it to you, but, 2006 is right around the corner. We have a coach that has us playing way above our talent level. You have a coach that has a team that plays way, way below their talent level. Florida has stumbled the last 5 years and fsu has cashed in. Good for you. But we've found our footing and with Jimbo as your coach you're in trouble.
 
I hate to break it to you, but, 2006 is right around the corner. We have a coach that has us playing way above our talent level. You have a coach that has a team that plays way, way below their talent level. Florida has stumbled the last 5 years and fsu has cashed in. Good for you. But we've found our footing and with Jimbo as your coach you're in trouble.

Talk about delusional. If Bowden had retired a few years earlier, say around 2003 or so, there's a good chance that 2006 and 2008 doesn't happen for you. Lots of those players grew up Nole fans, including Harvin but by then Bobby had us buried pretty deep.
 
Talk about delusional. If Bowden had retired a few years earlier, say around 2003 or so, there's a good chance that 2006 and 2008 doesn't happen for you. Lots of those players grew up Nole fans, including Harvin but by then Bobby had us buried pretty deep.
Really? Are you serious? Who is the delusional one. You can't make this stuff up. Apparently you can though.
 
Talk about delusional. If Bowden had retired a few years earlier, say around 2003 or so, there's a good chance that 2006 and 2008 doesn't happen for you. Lots of those players grew up Nole fans, including Harvin but by then Bobby had us buried pretty deep.
If a frog had pockets, he'd carry a pistol and shoot snakes. If, if, if but it didn't happen that way.
We did hire Urban. He did recruit his ass off. We did win 2 NCs.
You have an average OC for a coach (that's not debatable, stats and results don't lie). He does underachieve. Your team does perform below its talent. You did capitalize on UF being in a down cycle with an incompetent idiot for a coach. We are on a faster upswing than you or anyone thought possible. The buzz is back around the Gator program.
Now which of those statements isn't true? Where is the delusion?
 
I'm not sure he is even Ron Zook 1.9

Both can recruit. However Zook beat Saban's national championship team by shutting out Fisher's lame offense. He also renamed Tallyho to Ron Zook field as a lame duck corch. Careful with those software upgrades, they can bite you in the ass. There is a glitch in Tally and it's not the hardware, it's the platform it's running on.

I was there. I sat staring onto that field with my Gator bud...he sat quietly beside me. ...with the occasional snicker to which I'd just look at him with:

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If a frog had pockets, he'd carry a pistol and shoot snakes. If, if, if but it didn't happen that way.
We did hire Urban. He did recruit his ass off. We did win 2 NCs.
You have an average OC for a coach (that's not debatable, stats and results don't lie). He does underachieve. Your team does perform below its talent. You did capitalize on UF being in a down cycle with an incompetent idiot for a coach. We are on a faster upswing than you or anyone thought possible. The buzz is back around the Gator program.
Now which of those statements isn't true? Where is the delusion?

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