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My first year as an offensive coordinator I had an old coach tell me, "I would rather face a team with 1000 plays that they had practiced 10 times each than play a team with 10 plays that they practiced 1000 times each".
In other words, find plays that fit your talent and learn to execute them to perfection. Offenses do more to stop themselves than most fans realize. Sometimes what's taken as great defense is really offenses that have poor timing or bad execution.
EVERY offensive play is designed to score.
I'm struggling to see how FSU "should've won" when Georgia Tech had more total yards, more time of possession and turned the ball over more than FSU.
Can we suggest that losing to a lower division opponent is close, but definitely worse, than losing to a 2-5 team? I mean, you were at home, and had more players dressed for that game than they did. At least GT completed some passes.
Can you discuss that loss?
I think it was more the fact that GT led for exactly 0:00 of the game. Wasted a very good defensive effort. Very Muschamp like.
I got 2 words for you, will muschamp.
Even an asshat nole fan with the commensurate IQ should be able to understand that.
We are discussing Jimbo's short comings as a coach as it relates to losing to inferior competition. No competition is inferior to Muschamp.
My dog Rudy can out coach that loser, therefore, we will gladly concede that Jimbo is a better coach than muschamp. Again, tallest midget award goes to the noles
Fwiw, I'll save you some time thinking up smart ass replies, QB clocking the ball, punting and the victory formation are all offensive plays that werent designed to score either
Motivation? Complacency? Guys looking out for their future careers? Losing great leaders like Joiner and Telvin Smith on defense. Losing freaks on offense like Benjamin and Freeman who are tearing it up in the NFL.
Florida in 2009 was expected to roll everyone but struggled during the season. Same with Ohio State this year.
The point is, Jimbo and his "complex" offense are a joke. Complex isn't an adjective that somebody who understands football necessarily uses as a compliment.
Indeed. Tech only led once...and that was after time had expired. The Noles squandered TD opportunities regularly. FSU also played perfectly in to an underdog's game plan in terms of time. The underdog idea is to "shorten" the game with running plays followed by snapping the ball consistently with less than 5 seconds on the play clock. You can kill a full minute of game clock in about two plays. One drive lasts half a quarter. FSU did no clock conservation whatsoever.
And many would point out that FSU was winning 10-3 on 19 yards of total offense. GT gave you a short field twice right out of the gate.
Many would say that's why you were leading. GT stopped turning it over from that point and the game straightened itself out. GT moved the ball better and won.
How many time did FSU get in the redzone in that game? I counted 4 times. How many TDs? I counted one. How many FG's? Three.
One time would be the excuse? OK, I will buy that. But not failing on three of four times. BTW, Ga Tech redzone TD defense is 59%. Which means they give up TDs 59% of the time. Which ranks it #70, or last in the ACC. You know what it was before they played FSU? 65%. Which ranks them #88.
In fact, let's look at FSU's redzone TD percent for all seven games? It is 48%. Which ranks FSU 110 out of 128. That kind of ineptness is very Muschamp like.
Keeping tapping your heels together and repeating "Jimbo is great, Jimbo is great" to yourself. No doubt that will help.
Yes, you can suggest that. We had a coach that did that and guess what? We fired him. So, what you are saying is that you have a coach that is only *slightly* better than one we fired.
Care to discuss that?
You are forgetting FSU's last trip to the red zone. Golson threw his first pick of the year. No TD and no FG. Simply no points. That's after having the ball first and goal.
OK? So? Four trips to the red zone. One TD. Two FGs. That is inept. One FG came outside the redzone?
Dude...I'm only pointing out it was worse than you mentioned...defending nothing about the poor performance.
I don't think anyone is saying otherwise MJ. Jimbo has a bad habit of kicking FG's from inside the 3 yard line. Every time he does it we lose. The OL was terrible with the procedure penalties in the red zone too. Golson is what he is and I doubt he improves much. We didn't run him at all maybe he's injured.
Exactly the point. Jimbo, sans Winston, earned the moniker "four loss Fisher" for a reason. Inexplicable losses.
Look at your remaining schedule. If you are honest, you know the Clemson game and the Florida game will be tough. Possible and perhaps probable losses in both. So not inexplicable and maybe you guys get lucky and go 1-1 in those two games. But where is the other loss coming from? You know it will happen.
The offense is extremely young. Most of these guys apart from Cook and Bobo Wilson are starting for the first time. Most are either true sophomores or freshmen. The QB is a guy who's been on campus less than six months. I'm not surprised at the results so far.
It seems you want confirmation that FSU is basically through as a national power and can look forward to yearly beatings at the hands of Mac and then slinking off to the champs bowl every year.
If you wan't to believe it, so be it.
You do realize FSU was 12-2 in 2012 and won the Orange Bowl with EJ Manual at QB. "4 loss Fisher" is something you made up.
Except for you QB. Yes, he is young in the offense, but next year Fisher will have ANOTHER QB that "will be young.".
You and nole love to keep building those straw men. I have never said Mac will dominate any team. And I will not, until he does.
I am worried about UGA this week.
Yep. That is coaching, don't you agree?You mean like 5 false starts per game (at least the last 3 games)?
That is one out of four, including this year. Yet I seem to remember that choke job against NCState that year. Do you remember it too? Damn son, don't bring up examples that weaken your point.
If you are lucky, FSU will only have one choke job this year.
Actually it destroys your point. You said "Jimbo, sans Winston, earned the moniker "four loss Fisher" for a reason". The year before Winston we went 12-2 and won the Orange Bowl so that "4 loss Fisher" moniker is not only stupid, it's incorrect.
Jimbo's first two seasons as HC resulted in 8 losses (2 per season), hence the Gators dubbing him,"4-loss Fisher". Since then he's suffered no more than 2 losses in a season and produced one National Championship. The Gators are hoping for his return and, unfortunately, a 1st possible sighting was this past weekend in Atlanta.
It is what it is, but I'm hoping they are wrong we'll see soon enough.
Sure, I didn't know that you thought that highly of Muschamp to state Fisher is slightly better. Over the last 3 years, Fisher has the best record of any coach and won a National Title while going undefeated. No Gator coach has that distinction. If you really feel that way about Muschamp, then why fire him if he was only slightly worse than a winning coach?
If that is the best logic you have, we better move on to other subjects or sports you can give better insight into.
Funny thing is that in Fisher's first season we lost to two teams clearly better than us. Oklahoma and VT in the ACCCG. Lost to Russel Wilson and NC State on a fumble in the last minute and lost to UNC on a missed field goal.
We blew out Miami, beat UF and beat SEC East champ SC in the bowl. Somehow Oozie, MJ and others spin that as proof of how much Fisher sucks.
Oh yeah, the year before we were 7-6 in Bowden's final year.
We blew out Miami, beat UF and beat SEC East champ SC in the bowl. Somehow Oozie, MJ and others spin that as proof of how much Fisher sucks.
Oh yeah, the year before we were 7-6 in Bowden's final year.
I know he lost 4 his first two seasons but MJ said without Winston he was "4 loss Fisher". He left out the 2012 season and Orange Bowl win to fit his argument.
And since when does a coaches' fist two years of their head coaching career define their entire career??
No need for revisionist history. Jimbo was 7-6, 9-4 and 7-6 as the HCIW also. His offenses never really set the world on fire any of those years either. He was never really impressive at LSU either. Averaged under 400ypg as OC there. Don't forget that he rode the coat tails of a #1 overall pick (Jamarcus Russell) all the way to the fsu job. In spite of having all world talent on defense and the first round QB they didnt win anything after Saban left.
Oh, by the way, LSU won the NC the year AFTER JIMBO LEFT just sayin...,.
How could we forget the two loss BCS champion LSU tigers and their losses to those powerhouse teams Kentucky and Arkansas.
