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Liz Cheney

A man of few words. not an independent blah, blah blah. So is Elise Stefanik a true conservative republican?




Trump is definitely lying and he got you believing it, so bad that if any republican say it's a lie, they are a RINO (Cheney). You are full in on Trump. The fact that you can't think for yourself is pretty sad.
Conservative and establishment politician can be mutually exclusive. It's amazing how "America First" is something some of you can't get your heads around. I'll give you an example. My mayor is a Republican. I'd like to personally kick him in the nuts for trying to sell our public utility to a private firm and now want to raise gas taxes to put lipstick on this pig of a downtown area. He calls himself a conservative. But he's pissing away money on a shithole that just needs to be forgotten and rezoned industrial. I'm pissed.
 
Conservative and establishment politician can be mutually exclusive. It's amazing how "America First" is something some of you can't get your heads around. I'll give you an example. My mayor is a Republican. I'd like to personally kick him in the nuts for trying to sell our public utility to a private firm and now want to raise gas taxes to put lipstick on this pig of a downtown area. He calls himself a conservative. But he's pissing away money on a shithole that just needs to be forgotten and rezoned industrial. I'm pissed.
The one and only SFB Mayor of Jax, Lenny Curry. I sure hope there's another Republican candidate running against him. It will only get worse having another libtard mayor in Jax like Alvin Brown. Hell, we may see Corrine Brown as Mayor now that she's free, or is she yet?
 
Conservative and establishment politician can be mutually exclusive. It's amazing how "America First" is something some of you can't get your heads around. I'll give you an example. My mayor is a Republican. I'd like to personally kick him in the nuts for trying to sell our public utility to a private firm and now want to raise gas taxes to put lipstick on this pig of a downtown area. He calls himself a conservative. But he's pissing away money on a shithole that just needs to be forgotten and rezoned industrial. I'm pissed.
I get America first. I am all for America first but don't tell me that Trump is when he has businesses overseas. His family is the same way.

Is the private firm in the US? My company just moved a couple of jobs to India. I hate when that happens.
 
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I get America first. I am all for America first but don't tell me that Trump is when he has businesses overseas. His family is the same way.

Is the private firm in the US? My company just moved a couple of jobs to India. I hate when that happens.
No idea. But here's the deal with utility companies. They have zero fvcks to care about what they will pay for an acquisition. Why? Because the PSC allows them to charge a standard amount depending on rate of return on their investment. They WANT to pay a high price for the utility so they can rake in even more money. It would be a one time bonanza for the city while all of the residents and commercial customers take it up the ass from now until eternity.:mad:
 
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More love for the Cheneys


I believe we know the truth now


It's not LOVE it's an opportunity but "Kalim uses the wrong words" Your world is Love or Hate, a simple way to live but ok. I digress
 
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The one and only SFB Mayor of Jax, Lenny Curry. I sure hope there's another Republican candidate running against him. It will only get worse having another libtard mayor in Jax like Alvin Brown. Hell, we may see Corrine Brown as Mayor now that she's free, or is she yet?
I think she's out on appeal (got out originally due to covid) and trying to get the conviction overturned because of some jury shenanigans. She'll never get elected again. Unrelated quick question.........has Tommy Hazouri ever had a real job?🤣🤣
 
No idea. But here's the deal with utility companies. They have zero fvcks to care about what they will pay for an acquisition. Why? Because the PSC allows them to charge a standard amount depending on rate of return on their investment. They WANT to pay a high price for the utility so they can rake in even more money. It would be a one time bonanza for the city while all of the residents and commercial customers take it up the ass from now until eternity.:mad:
That would explain the craziness in Texas, when people were getting like $10000 election bills. When decisions are made for financial reasons, we always get screwed.
 
This AM, Fox Business told me NYC crime is surging. Anyone surprised? Biden promised economic stagnation and higher crime rates.

Trump won on Election Day. 5 states continued counting passed Election Day till they reached a desired number. Anyone here read Article II of our Constitution? Article II uses small words from the dominant West Germanic language.

The U. S. has a population of 331 million with an average IQ of 98. There are not 81 million stupid enough to vote for a stiff who can draw a mere 11.6 million to his first TV address to Congress.
 

It's not LOVE it's an opportunity but "Kalim uses the wrong words" Your world is Love or Hate, a simple way to live but ok. I digress


Literal title of article is how dems learned to love the cheneys”

Either way, you were trying to play semantics
 
Literal title of article is how dems learned to love the cheneys”

Either way, you were trying to play semantics
No we both are doing the same. I am debating "love" and you're debating "lie". We BOTH probably used too strong of a word.
 
She has voted with Trump at a 90% rate. SO i disagree. She's a conservative Republican, who voted against Trump lie. SO now, she's bad.
Now she's "bad" because she saw which way the political wind was blowing and flip flopped on some critical issues.

Liz Cheney is in this for Liz Cheney.

Either way she's ideologically left center for a Republican.
 
The big difference between the two....i literally showed articles that had titles with the word LOVE being used to describe the medias current state of affairs with lizzy poo. Love is very abstract, to the third party, and is used to describe emotional state.

In calling something a lie, you are making a declarative statement that you can factually show that something is untrue.

For example: “my businesses make more money than Trumps”.

Then when the numbers come out, you don’t. Or you are caught contradicting that statement.

The media does this same thing all the time without factually knowing, so I can understand why you wouldn’t understand what the definition is. Now that you do, I would expect the ignorance of the use of this word to stop.
 
Now she's "bad" because she saw which way the political wind was blowing and flip flopped on some critical issues.

Liz Cheney is in this for Liz Cheney.

Either way she's ideologically left center for a Republican.
~90% voting record with Trump isn't left center, unless you're saying Trump is left center.

"The conservative group Heritage Action, meanwhile, gave Cheney a 91% score compared to just 56% for Stefanik during the most recent Congress. And the American Conservative Union, which hosted the extraordinarily pro-Trump Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) earlier this year, gives Cheney a 78% rating compared to just 44% for Stefanik."

 
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~90% voting record with Trump isn't left center, unless you're saying Trump is left center.

"The conservative group Heritage Action, meanwhile, gave Cheney a 91% score compared to just 56% for Stefanik during the most recent Congress. And the American Conservative Union, which hosted the extraordinarily pro-Trump Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) earlier this year, gives Cheney a 78% rating compared to just 44% for Stefanik."

Never heard of Heritage Action, but Stefanik is a rising star in the republican party, and far more conservative than rino Cheney.

You know how you keep trying to tell whites they aren't qualified to talk about blacks like you? Well you sure as shit aren't qualified to talk about republicans like me. So you need to sit in the corner where you belong on this one.
 
~90% voting record with Trump isn't left center, unless you're saying Trump is left center.

"The conservative group Heritage Action, meanwhile, gave Cheney a 91% score compared to just 56% for Stefanik during the most recent Congress. And the American Conservative Union, which hosted the extraordinarily pro-Trump Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) earlier this year, gives Cheney a 78% rating compared to just 44% for Stefanik."

You’re wasting your time. They believe the ONLY true Republican is someone who supports Trump 100%. Principles be damned. Like Matt Gaetz. A true conservative.
 
You’re wasting your time. They believe the ONLY true Republican is someone who supports Trump 100%. Principles be damned. Like Matt Gaetz. A true conservative.
It just shows the lack of principles for these guys to attack a republican who is praised by literally every major conservative group only because she won't say the election was stolen. This is literally cancel culture, you know, something they complain about.
 
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The biggest thing that tells me Liz isn't a Republican.....the left media is in love with her. And the fact you are in here again supporting a lefty media agenda, is once again, very revealing about who you ACTUALLY are.

Come out of the closet bruh.

Not gonna lie...it makes me suspicious as well.

I suspect that they like her, not because she's a secret Dem...but rather because she and Trump dislike one another with passion.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
 
She has voted with Trump at a 90% rate. SO i disagree. She's a conservative Republican, who voted against Trump lie. SO now, she's bad.

Counterpoint...she voted for Trump 90% of the time...but she voted to impeach SO now she's good?

That's sort of the point imo. If tomorrow Pelosi calls Biden and Harris the most evil duo to ever get elected, and I praise her for it, im not being less partisan when I praise Pelosi for her comments. I'm actually being MORE partisan for doing so.
 
It just shows the lack of principles for these guys to attack a republican who is praised by literally every major conservative group only because she won't say the election was stolen. This is literally cancel culture, you know, something they complain about.

You're defending her soley because of her stance on Trump. Check your own principles man.
 
Counterpoint...she voted for Trump 90% of the time...but she voted to impeach SO now she's good?

That's sort of the point imo. If tomorrow Pelosi calls Biden and Harris the most evil duo to ever get elected, and I praise her for it, im not being less partisan when I praise Pelosi for her comments. I'm actually being MORE partisan for doing so.
No not at all. I'm pointing out how much Trump controls people on this board. See here's the thing, I never said she's good or bad. I've been on this board hearing how great conservative policies are and how great Trump was. So I see a person who voted with Trump 90% of the time and she has high grades from conservative watch groups. Right there alone, she checks every box that some of you are telling me is whats best for the country. So why is a thread being created to attack her? Oh yeah, she won't agree to the election being stolen. I never mentioned her impeachment vote, so that's not it.

This situation proves 2 things about some people on this board. They are in Trump culture and they are pro cancel culture when it benefits them.
 
Counterpoint...she voted for Trump 90% of the time...but she voted to impeach SO now she's good?

That's sort of the point imo. If tomorrow Pelosi calls Biden and Harris the most evil duo to ever get elected, and I praise her for it, im not being less partisan when I praise Pelosi for her comments. I'm actually being MORE partisan for doing so.
Ask him if he ever praised her for any of the 90% of the time she voted for Trump. If not, he makes your point exactly.
 
No not at all. I'm pointing out how much Trump controls people on this board. See here's the thing, I never said she's good or bad. I've been on this board hearing how great conservative policies are and how great Trump was. So I see a person who voted with Trump 90% of the time and she has high grades from conservative watch groups. Right there alone, she checks every box that some of you are telling me is whats best for the country. So why is a thread being created to attack her? Oh yeah, she won't agree to the election being stolen. I never mentioned her impeachment vote, so that's not it.

This situation proves 2 things about some people on this board. They are in Trump culture and they are pro cancel culture when it benefits them.

The media is telling you how to react, and you’re obeying. Simple as that. So a similar thing could be said about you. 2 things have been proven, since the media is liberal, you ARE a liberal (FWIW this has been shown to be the case already), and 2....they got their puppets (you) falling in line.

Their talking points are working.
 
The media is telling you how to react, and you’re obeying. Simple as that. So a similar thing could be said about you. 2 things have been proven, since the media is liberal, you ARE a liberal (FWIW this has been shown to be the case already), and 2....they got their puppets (you) falling in line.

Their talking points are working.
The same thing is being said by people on fox news and Ann Coulter. Not all conservatives are on board with how this is being handled. So its not a liberal talking point. I posted right wing comments, you posted left wing media. So who is following left wing media? Haha

You just can't believe how this makes you look.
 
~90% voting record with Trump isn't left center, unless you're saying Trump is left center.

"The conservative group Heritage Action, meanwhile, gave Cheney a 91% score compared to just 56% for Stefanik during the most recent Congress. And the American Conservative Union, which hosted the extraordinarily pro-Trump Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) earlier this year, gives Cheney a 78% rating compared to just 44% for Stefanik."

This isn't binary. All legislation doesn't start with the president. Here's her TOTAL voting record plotted against other members of congress. She's left center.

And you're correct, Trump was not a classic conservative. He never claimed to be, he used to be a democrat. He was fairly non-standard in many ways.


And here's a decent op ed showing her time in party "leadership" is over, and it's not all about Trump.

 
This isn't binary. All legislation doesn't start with the president. Here's her TOTAL voting record plotted against other members of congress. She's left center.

And you're correct, Trump was not a classic conservative. He never claimed to be, he used to be a democrat. He was fairly non-standard in many ways.


And here's a decent op ed showing her time in party "leadership" is over, and it's not all about Trump.

Great information. I'll just say her triangle lands in the center-right. Glad a right wing person admitted that Trump isn't a true conservative in a sense because when people like me say it, we get attacked.

Cheney knows why she's being kicked it and it's about Trump. I'm sure the propaganda people will have 1000 different articles saying why it's not that but she already said what she was told.
 
The same thing is being said by people on fox news and Ann Coulter. Not all conservatives are on board with how this is being handled. So its not a liberal talking point. I posted right wing comments, you posted left wing media. So who is following left wing media? Haha

You just can't believe how this makes you look.
You see that's the difference between conservatives and liberals. Liberals all bang the same drum and at the same time. No "independent" thinkers. They all vote the same way, think the same way, and do the same things. The power of conservative thinking is in their independence. It is a BIG tent. Thanks for making that point.

What one cannot argue, is that these ARE indeed Left Wing talking points....they love them some Liz...as has already been PROVEN. Even if it is just to make Pubs conservatives look bad. Saying otherwise says more about you, than anything else.

As for how this makes one look. LOL. Keep digging in.

One of us is comfortable with who we are. The other, claims to be something they aren't. I will let the board decide which is which (even though most already have).
 
Of course they do. Mdf is a sock of cuckster. Everyone with a pulse saw chinese currency crashing on election night when it looked like DJT was going to win. Then Chinese currency rebound once the steal began to take place. China got their guy in office. You have to be a complete moron at this point not to connect the dots

DJT puts the clamps on China via Tariffs
Virus begins in China roughy a year out from election (but not released from lab)
DJT refers to it as china virus (dems refuse to call it that)
DJT call out the WHO which is worthless as bsc on the fryer
Election night chinese currency begins to crash as it looks like DJT is going to win re-election
Counting stops
Counting restarts and biden takes lead, the steal is on, and chinese currency rebounds
Biden becomes president and essentially bans calling it china virus at the executive level of government agencies
Biden doing everything to make amends with WHIO

And lastly, the cucks TDS continues to blur their vision of the obvious happening right in front of them.
So I am a lib, this lunacy shows how far the "conservatives" have fallen. Take the tin foil off your head and talk about policies. You clearly are infatuated with trump, I don't sniff jocks, I was dissapointed in his policies and most of his actions. He did some good things, but they are hardly worth mentioning to his followers, the value I can add is to smack you in the face with reality until you either pass out or wake up.
 
So I am a lib, this lunacy shows how far the "conservatives" have fallen. Take the tin foil off your head and talk about policies. You clearly are infatuated with trump, I don't sniff jocks, I was dissapointed in his policies and most of his actions. He did some good things, but they are hardly worth mentioning to his followers, the value I can add is to smack you in the face with reality until you either pass out or wake up.

You add zero value. FWIW.
 
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