Let’s talk 12…

[sadgator]

sadgator didn’t see any new thread posted on it, so let’s discuss…

sadgator’s understanding is that teams 5-8 would host first round playoff games…

Can you imagine the atmosphere in Gainesville on the day of a first round playoff game in the Swamp? Nothing will ever bring us back to the 90’s…but man, that would be pretty epic…sadgator wouldn’t miss that for the world…

 

[sadgator]

The best thing will be when it’s like year 2 or 3 of the 12 team playoff and UGA still hasn’t won a title…that’ll be fvckin hilarious…

 

[Countygator1]

I think its time to expand the playoffs. Bowl games have long lost their appeal.

 

[LizardGrad89]

sadgator didn’t see any new thread posted on it, so let’s discuss…

sadgator’s understanding is that teams 5-8 would host first round playoff games…

Can you imagine the atmosphere in Gainesville on the day of a first round playoff game in the Swamp? Nothing will ever bring us back to the 90’s…but man, that would be pretty epic…sadgator wouldn’t miss that for the world…

It's almost exactly the plan I have espoused for years, except I had said to have the first two rounds on campus. That way the top 8 seeds all get to host a game, 5-8 in round 1, and 1-4 in round 2. The way it is now you'd rather be a #5 seed, because you get a home game, and you get a warmup game. Teams are sometimes rusty after the long layoff, so the team that had a game the week prior could be sharper.

Otherwise, naturally I like it.

 

[fsu939913]

Im all for expanding but there needs to be a cap on the amount of teams from one conference. I dont want to see 6 ACC teams in the tourney every yr. I think a cap of 3 from each conference and a guaranteed spot for the highest rated g5 team would make a hell of a good tournament/playoff. Hope this happens.

 

[Countygator1]

Im all for expanding but there needs to be a cap on the amount of teams from one conference. I dont want to see 6 ACC teams in the tourney every yr. I think a cap of 3 from each conference and a guaranteed spot for the highest rated g5 team would make a hell of a good tournament/playoff. Hope this happens.

This would be completely unfair. Why would you deprive Wake Forest of their shot at a natty?

 

[sadgator]

It's almost exactly the plan I have espoused for years, except I had said to have the first two rounds on campus. That way the top 8 seeds all get to host a game, 5-8 in round 1, and 1-4 in round 2. The way it is now you'd rather be a #5 seed, because you get a home game, and you get a warmup game. Teams are sometimes rusty after the long layoff, so the team that had a game the week prior could be sharper.

Otherwise, naturally I like it.

After thinking about it…sadgator agrees…1-4 should get to host second round games…screw the neutral site crap…that would place serious value on seed ranking….sadgator also would lobby for auto-bids for major conference CG champs…it would force higher ranked favorites to actually play in their conference CG rather than to just sit back…but even without that, 12 looks good…wish we didn’t have to wait for 2023….

 

[Nicktheslick]

One of the few reasons to keep the bowls is the extra practice. So many players opt out now it’s ridiculous. The bowl games were great when there were a dozen or so. Making one was a big deal. At 49 ( a few years ago) not so much. Then throw in 5-7 teams making it. Well you see my point.

 

[Nicktheslick]

I am however all in on the 12 team playoff.

 

[GatorNation79]

I think its time to expand the playoffs. Bowl games have long lost their appeal.

Unless you're a fan of the team that's playing most of the ball games have zero appeal. There's so many games and none of them mean anything unless you're in the playoffs. Had we been in the playoffs last year all the guys who didn't play in our bowl game would have played and things would have been different... Sure we still couldn't stop anybody from scoring but at least we would have had a better chance to score.

 

[PacoGator19]

The issue of having a 12 team playoff is like half the teams would be from the SEC. Therefore, you’d have a bunch of teams that have already played each other

 

[sadgator]

The issue of having a 12 team playoff is like half the teams would be from the SEC. Therefore, you’d have a bunch of teams that have already played each other

Aaaaand???

 

[fsu939913]

After thinking about it…sadgator agrees…1-4 should get to host second round games…screw the neutral site crap…that would place serious value on seed ranking….sadgator also would lobby for auto-bids for major conference CG champs…it would force higher ranked favorites to actually play in their conference CG rather than to just sit back…but even without that, 12 looks good…wish we didn’t have to wait for 2023….

Agree completely

 

[fsu939913]

The issue of having a 12 team playoff is like half the teams would be from the SEC. Therefore, you’d have a bunch of teams that have already played each other

They need a cap of 3 teams per conference. If your not top 3 in your conference, you have no business winning a natty.

 

[sadgator]

They need a cap of 3 teams per conference. If your not top 3 in your conference, you have no business winning a natty.

Prove it…

 

[LizardGrad89]

After thinking about it…sadgator agrees…1-4 should get to host second round games…screw the neutral site crap…that would place serious value on seed ranking….sadgator also would lobby for auto-bids for major conference CG champs…it would force higher ranked favorites to actually play in their conference CG rather than to just sit back…but even without that, 12 looks good…wish we didn’t have to wait for 2023….

The only issue I have with auto-bids is that, if a conference had a 12-0 team playing a 9-3 team, they could have the refs favor the 9-3 team in an effort to get an extra team into the playoff. The way around this, of course, would be to have a set cash amount regardless of the number of teams a conference has in the playoff, because conferences really only care about money.

 

[fsu939913]

The only issue I have with auto-bids is that, if a conference had a 12-0 team playing a 9-3 team, they could have the refs favor the 9-3 team in an effort to get an extra team into the playoff. The way around this, of course, would be to have a set cash amount regardless of the number of teams a conference has in the playoff, because conferences really only care about money.

Agree about the set cash amount and all they have to do is cap 3 teams per conference. That is fair.

 

[GatorGray]

After thinking about it…sadgator agrees…1-4 should get to host second round games…screw the neutral site crap…that would place serious value on seed ranking….sadgator also would lobby for auto-bids for major conference CG champs…it would force higher ranked favorites to actually play in their conference CG rather than to just sit back…but even without that, 12 looks good…wish we didn’t have to wait for 2023….

My understanding is they do. The plan is to take the Top 5 conference champs, regardless of P5 or G5, then the next seven based on some ranking. In fact, someone did a pairing based on the 2021 season and the Pac 12 champ (Oregon) wouldn't have been in it.

 

[sadgator]

Spurrier has to be like…”damn, about 30 years too late…”

 

[fsu939913]

Spurrier has to be like…”damn, about 30 years too late…”

Bowden too lol

 

[fsumc]

Prove it…

That scene LOL.

 

[fsumc]

My understanding is they do. The plan is to take the Top 5 conference champs, regardless of P5 or G5, then the next seven based on some ranking. In fact, someone did a pairing based on the 2021 season and the Pac 12 champ (Oregon) wouldn't have been in it.

Good. The Pac12 is a joke.

 

[sadgator]

That scene LOL.

Oh man, as a seven year old boy, sadgator worshipped Tanner Boyle…the lines written for that kid were epic…he was sadgator’s first recognition of a “bad ass…”

 

[sadgator]

Bowden too lol

True. While Bowden didn’t necessarily advocate for it as much as Steve did, he certainly would have embraced it…as much as sadgator goofs on FSU, sadgator has to acknowledge and respect the fact that that sumbitch wasn’t afraid to play any team, anywhere, at anytime…

Now, he might have cheated, swindled, and intentionally told his his guys to take out other players…but he damn sure wasn’t afraid…

 

[fsu939913]

True. While Bowden didn’t necessarily advocate for it as much as Steve did, he certainly would have embraced it…as much as sadgator goofs on FSU, sadgator has to acknowledge and respect the fact that that sumbitch wasn’t afraid to play any team, anywhere, at anytime…

Now, he might have cheated, swindled, and intentionally told his his guys to take out other players…but he damn sure wasn’t afraid…

I dont disagree

 

[fsumc]

Oh man, as a seven year old boy, sadgator worshipped Tanner Boyle…the lines written for that kid were epic…he was sadgator’s first recognition of a “bad ass…”

Anytime I’ve been at a sporting event that gets delayed or the refs are taking over the game I can’t help myself but yell “LET THEM PLAY.” I just want to see if anyone else gets the reference.

Tanner Boyle smoked, gambled at billiards, rode a motorcycle, hit on older women, and smashed homeruns. He was a 30 year old in a 12 year old’s body and we all wanted to be him.

 

[sadgator]

Tanner Boyle smoked, gambled at billiards, rode a motorcycle, hit on older women, and smashed homeruns. He was a 30 year old in a 12 year old’s body and we all wanted to be him.

You’re thinking of Kelly Leak. Tanner Boyle was the foul-mouthed little obnoxious kid…for obvious reasons sadgator identified with Tanner…

 

[fsumc]

You’re thinking of Kelly Leak. Tanner Boyle was the foul-mouthed little obnoxious kid…for obvious reasons sadgator identified with Tanner…

Oh damn you’re right LOL. Little man syndrome just flowing through him. Wanted to fight everyone and always got his ass kicked. But never backed down.

 

[Gator Fever]

Will dilute the regular season some. I think 8 is the limit where you won't effect that. 5 big conference winners and 3 wildcards.

 

[LizardGrad89]

Will dilute the regular season some. I think 8 is the limit where you won't effect that. 5 big conference winners and 3 wildcards.

I think it will spread out the talent a bit. Right now Bama, Clemson and OSU are selling kids that the only way they can play for a title is to go there. Make it 12 schools and that argument goes away. Then all they have is the piles of illicit cash as an incentive.

 

[LizardGrad89]

Im all for expanding but there needs to be a cap on the amount of teams from one conference. I dont want to see 6 ACC teams in the tourney every yr. I think a cap of 3 from each conference and a guaranteed spot for the highest rated g5 team would make a hell of a good tournament/playoff. Hope this happens.

I dunno, if Boston College is the 6th best team in the ACC but 9th best in the nation, why shouldn't they get a shot?

 

[fsu939913]

I dunno, if Boston College is the 6th best team in the ACC but 9th best in the nation, why shouldn't they get a shot?

That means the rankings are wrong and biased. I guess if 6 ACC teams started in the top 7 just in case there is an upset so they can be replaced by the other ACC team that beat them. Then we can have Clemson play an avg team from other conferences each yr so they can win and we can claim we are the best because we play no tough out of conference games except rivalry games. Claim we dont need to play tough out of conference games because we play 6 of the top 7 teams every yr (even though these are given and not earned). Maybe we could make a slogan "it just means so much more to us". Get ESPN in on it so they pay us more money then other conferences and around and around we go. We could also do stupid chants like ACC ACC ACC ACC!!! After a team that beat us beats a team from another conference. All of this is just in theory of course.

 

[sadgator]

That means the rankings are wrong and biased. I guess if 6 ACC teams started in the top 7 just in case there is an upset so they can be replaced by the other ACC team that beat them. Then we can have Clemson play an avg team from other conferences each yr so they can win and we can claim we are the best because we play no tough out of conference games except rivalry games. Claim we dont need to play tough out of conference games because we play 6 of the top 7 teams every yr (even though these are given and not earned). Maybe we could make a slogan "it just means so much more to us". Get ESPN in on it so they pay us more money then other conferences and around and around we go. We could also do stupid chants like ACC ACC ACC ACC!!! After a team that beat us beats a team from another conference. All of this is just in theory of course.

You’re SO jealous…lol…this is EXACTLY why we need 12 teams…

 

[LizardGrad89]

That means the rankings are wrong and biased. I guess if 6 ACC teams started in the top 7 just in case there is an upset so they can be replaced by the other ACC team that beat them. Then we can have Clemson play an avg team from other conferences each yr so they can win and we can claim we are the best because we play no tough out of conference games except rivalry games. Claim we dont need to play tough out of conference games because we play 6 of the top 7 teams every yr (even though these are given and not earned). Maybe we could make a slogan "it just means so much more to us". Get ESPN in on it so they pay us more money then other conferences and around and around we go. We could also do stupid chants like ACC ACC ACC ACC!!! After a team that beat us beats a team from another conference. All of this is just in theory of course.

Well, that's a tough call. Maybe we need more of an NFL structure, and have all the best ACC teams play nothing but top teams from other conferences. But would those teams want that? If you are the preseason favorite in the Big 12, and therefore have to play a couple of tough ACC teams, if you end up losing your conference title game you might get locked out of the playoffs and another team from your conference, that didn't have such a tough schedule, get in ahead of you. So, did you ever consider the possibility that the top ACC teams don't schedule tough OOC games because the tough OOC opponents don't want to do that? It does take two to tango, after all. Have you ever noticed that OOC teams like Michigan and Oklahoma are willing to schedule ACC teams like Syracuse and Wake Forest, but not so eager to schedule the top teams? That's not because the top ACC teams don't want to play them, quite the opposite, in fact.

Also, as a general rule of thumb, do you think teams with better players are better than teams with lesser players? Most people do. So when the ACC has 7 of the top 10 recruiting classes every year, the nation is going to look at them as generally having better teams. People don't think ACC teams are a cut above for no reason, they think that because they have the best players.