Half of those two victories was Kirby in a UGA coaching transition while Mullen was fully entrenched as a tenured head coach at Mississippi Star. Keep trying though...you may convince yourselfWhile you only desperately try to ignore what has happened between those two teams since 1950,,,begging for some validity on the results of the last 2 years during a UF coaching transition...
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You can claim that I'm 'trying' when I come over to a nuttlicker's board to post.
Until then, you are just another buttsniffin' troll begging for some validations on the Gators board.
Until then, you are just another buttsniffin' troll begging for some validations on the Gators board.
If you can't fall to sleep or are feeling too manly, go to the Georgia bored! That sh!t will make you want to play in Interstate 4 traffic. There needs to be a ban yourself button.You can claim that I'm 'trying' when I come over to a nuttlicker's board to post.
Until then, you are just another buttsniffin' troll begging for some validations on the Gators board.
No, just not a fan of our board. It sucks as bad as your team. There goes my chance of being voted Blue Board Queen, guess you'll get the crown now. Congratulations!She's 'blazing' her way to infamy on the Gator board now...
No, just not a fan of our board. It sucks as bad as your team. There goes my chance of being voted Blue Board Queen, guess you'll get the crown now. Congratulations!
6. UF with 1st year HC -- sucks?
8. UGly with 3rd year HC -- sucks worse...
With jawja fans like you posting there, I can see why it sucks so bad...
Just a FYI, UF leads the SEC in All Time in SEC Championships, and it's not close...
On the field winner Trumps media members voting on rankings. SEC East Champs > SEC third place .You discredit player rankings, but ride that jock on team rankings voted on by similar groups of people .I'll take head to head instead of opinions in someone's head.6. UF with 1st year HC -- sucks?
8. UGly with 3rd year HC -- sucks worse...
With jawja fans like you posting there, I can see why it sucks so bad...
Just a FYI, UF leads the SEC in All Time in SEC Championships, and it's not close...
Sooooooo.....
2016 - Kirby in a 'coaching transition' won 8 games with Top 10 talent
2018 - Mullen in a 'coaching transition' won 10 games with Top 25 talent
You need good talent AND good coaching to win big. Kirby has a lot of one and not enough of the other.
You need a good QB to lead your team in order to win. Franks became that leader this year and made good throws as well as good decisions. UGA is loaded this year, however if Fromm goes down we will struggle to move the ball. BAMA is in a similar situation now that Hurts has left the building. There's uncertainty of what the unproven, inexperienced backups can do. Florida has depth at QB and can withstand the brutal SEC gauntlet.
Coaches Poll twit, not the clueless AP media-moron voters.
Head to Head you say?
UF 27 - 19 LSU
One week later:
LSU 36 - 16 UGly
Dan went head to head with Hardblow
UF 45 - 15 #7 Mich
Dan finished on a 4-0 wins streak in his 1st season.
4th & Dumb went head to head with Herman
UGly 21 - 28 #15 Texazz
Dumb finished on an 0-2 loser steak in his 3rd season.
Coaches Final Poll
6. UF
7. LSU
8. UGly
I guess after being owned by the Gators for the last 70 years, that beating UF is the biggest deal of the season for your pitiful leghumpers...
I'll make a deal with you...
If Mullen wins the SEC and goes to the National Championship game in his second year like Kirby I will admit that Mullen is equal. If he wins the National Championship game I will admit Mullen is better.
Will you admit that he isn't as good if he doesn't?
I'm guessing no matter what happens you will keep spewing that Mullen is better.
So if that's how it work, why don't you seem to enjoy the comparison between the two coaches first years at their current jobs?
Because we actually have head-to-head results to go by.
Plus, when Kirby took over Georgia the Dawgs had not won the SEC East in four years. When Mullen took over Florida the Gators had won the SEC East two of the last three years. You tell me which program was in better shape...
Plus, by his logic, he just admitted that he thinks Mark Richt is a better coach than Kirby, since he accomplished more in his first 3 years than Kirby did.
You tell me:
A - The program that won 4 games the year before
B - The program that won 10 games the year before
The truth is that we were very excited about Richt his first three years. The issue is that he continued to recruit great skill players and did not recruit great OL and DL. Because of that he didn't win the SEC his last 10 years and didn't even win the SEC East his last four years.
We are obviously believe Kirby won't make the same fatal mistakea that Richt did. Of I'm wrong I will gladly call for his head.
Neither won the SEC East so they both underachieved...Florida obviously more than Georgia. However, the two previous years Florida won the SEC East so you can make an argument that over those three years Florida was more talented. Go back and look at our 10 wins...we didn't beat anyone any good and lost to Florida that ywar we won 10 games. That is why Richt was fires after a year in which he won 10 games.
So Georgia's 10 wins under Richt weren't very good, but Kirby's 8 wins a year later were amazing.
We just won't mention the whole losing to Butch Jones and Jim McElwain part.
No the 8 win season SUCKED! There is no way to look at that season and be positive about it EXCEPT that I think he did what Saban taught him....change the culture in that first year even if u have to run off half the team. He did that and took a lot of lumps for it. However, I believe that was a HUGE part in being able to overachieve that second year. The issue for Kirby is that he really has had to build the OL and DL from scratch because Richt left the cupboard bare the last 10 years.
I agree that he had a much better first year. However, he didn't beat Kirby. Also, the real question is did he change the culture during that first year. In other words was his biggest concern winning and making a statement or was it running off all the bad seeds and starting over and doing it right.
I guess we'll know over the next couple of years but I trust Kirby (who learnes drom Saban) on this more than Mullen (who learned from Urban).
What is your opinion?
You won't like my opinion. I think Dan Mullen will win at least 50% of the East titles while he is at Florida, and the one former Saban coach in the SEC that worries me is Jimbo Fisher, not Kirby Smart.
It doesn't really matter if I like your opinion or not. Our opinions won't matter once the ball is kicked off. Ha ha.
I would say if Mullen is your biggest worry then you have a pretty good life so kudos to you on that. I thought Mullen showed a lot of promise...I mean not when they played Georgia or not when they lost to Kentucky or not when they lost to Missouri but that gane against Michigan - WOW!
If Jimbo can find a Jameis at Texas A&M then I agree. If not, my guess is he will turn A&M into what he left at FSU...which is scraps.
If head to head results are all we go by and not final rankings.
08 Urban Meyer<08 Houston Nutt
Or shit...Ron Zook 03> Nick Saban 03
08 Urban Meyer<08 Houston Nutt
Or shit...Ron Zook 03> Nick Saban 03
Without researching they were knotted up at 1-1. 06 UF beat Arkansas. 08 Ole Miss beat UF.
Maybe they were equal then. Ha ha. But I would give the edge to Nutt since he probably had less talent. Ha ha
Well if we play by those rules... Butch Lyle Jones >Kirby Smart
Jim McElwain >.. you get the hint
Not thrilled about that either though I get the letdown in a meaningless bowl game. We laid an egg against Alabama that 4th quarter and it was obvious Texas wanted to be there way more than Georgia. Still we lost and Herman is 1-0 against Kirby.
The team Kirby took over wasn’t one of the worst at uga in 20 years, so not exactly apples and oranges
It definiely wasn't one of the best in the last 20 years. Mullen took over a team that had won 2 of the last 3 SEC East Championships. Kirby took over one that hasn't won the SEC East in four years.
Mullen took over a team that won 4 games, played soft and couldn’t have beaten a high school team at the end of the season. And it doesn’t hurt that the east was as bad as it had ever been. Plus I don’t think I can remember a team you guys had that was as bad as that last mcelwain team. You guys might not have had your best team but you had some talent.
We both seem to be ezcited about our own coaches which is good. My guess is that what you have seen so far in Kirby vs Mullen matchups will be what you see in then future. You are betting it will be different. My guess is that when Kirby beats Mullen again you will continue to make excuses. Hopefully, while making those excuses Florida gives him an extension. Ha ha!
So you're saying Mullen took over the only Florida team that didn't win the East from 2015-2017?
Yes. Kirby took over a Georgia team that hadn't won the SEC East in four years.
Are you saying those are the excuses your going to make? I'm not following you...
