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It's over: Even the 'fact-checkers' won't defend Hiden anymore

Yep, Hiden has said something a couple of times along the lines of 'Who said the Constitution is the end-all, be-all???'

They are putting feelers out to see how the public reacts. This is what they always do. Once they reach a point where they normalize the insane rhetoric, then they push for laws that reflect it.
You get this 100%. Mask mandates...vaccine mandates are ALL part of this same thing
 
Politicians know how to scare people for votes but it's no different than republicans saying democrats want to take all your guns.

Except when Republicans use that scare tactic, there are actual quotes and soundbites from Dems stating that they want to take your guns away. That's not exactly a difference without distinction.
 
I think Beto said he wanted to ban AK47s or something like that. Not exactly disarming America.

Politicians prey on the gullible. All of them. The gullible don't know it's happening.

No, Beto called for and still wants a round-up of "AR's." He has clarified that comment more than once.

Given the opportunity, the American left will absolutely take your guns.
 
Except when Republicans use that scare tactic, there are actual quotes and soundbites from Dems stating that they want to take your guns away. That's not exactly a difference without distinction.
There are dem politicians saying they want to completely disarm American citizens? If so, I think they would be in the extreme minority.
 
People claim guns don't play part in gun crime. I'm helping them understand that guns are actually required.
I don’t think that’s what people are claiming, The saying Guns don’t kill people, people kill people means that killers are going to find a way to kill other people regardless of the instrument. Timothy mcveigh says hello
 
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Viral Facebook post: "More people die from hands, fists, feet, than rifles.”

PolitiFact's ruling: Mostly True

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I don’t think that’s what people are claiming, The saying Guns don’t kill people, people kill people means that killers are going to find a way to kill other people regardless of the instrument. Timothy mcveigh says hello
What McVeigh did was extremely rare. Gun violence happens daily in cities across the nation.

Guns are, by far, the tool of choice for people with bad intents.
 
"More people die from hands, fists, feet, than rifles. Guess we should ban limbs now…," reads the May 25 post. Underneath, a graphic titled "Number of murder victims in the Unites States in 2020 by weapon used" shows rifle deaths at 455 and deaths from "personal weapons (hands, fists, feet, etc.)" as 662. The post includes a link to a website called Statista.

The post was flagged as part of Facebook’s efforts to combat false news and misinformation on its News Feed.:rolleyes:
 
There are dem politicians saying they want to completely disarm American citizens? If so, I think they would be in the extreme minority.

"...shall not be infringed."

If dems are trying to infringe, they are taking your guns away.

If you're asking me if I believe that the left wants to take ALL guns, my answer would be "absolutely." That isn't what I was saying above, however.
 
No politician (your words) has mentioned banning handguns. Just semi-automatic rifles. ;)
So no one is actually threatening to disarm American citizens.

I do agree that 'assault' style weapons get relatively too much attention.
 
What McVeigh did was extremely rare. Gun violence happens daily in cities across the nation.

Guns are, by far, the tool of choice for people with bad intents.
You’re missing the point (not surprising). Take away guns, folks will and can find other ways to harm one another.

For a conservative, you quite often love you some lib talking points.
 
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You’re missing the point (not surprising). Take away guns, folks will and can find other ways to harm one another.

For a conservative, you quite often love you some lib talking points.
If you were able to magically eliminate all guns you would eliminate all gun crime. Yeah, people would still kill each other but it would be way more difficult. People use guns for crime for a reason.

re. conservative/liberal, I think gun nuts are nuts. Just as nutty as any extreme left wing bozos. Peta, tree huggers, etc.
 
"...shall not be infringed."

If dems are trying to infringe, they are taking your guns away.

If you're asking me if I believe that the left wants to take ALL guns, my answer would be "absolutely." That isn't what I was saying above, however.
A while back during one of the mass shootings hysteria, I did some research on "so called" assault rifles (which are no more deadly than most high capacity hunting rifles. The percentage of deaths from mass shooting deaths was dwarfed by the annual number of deaths by indigestion and choking. It's a horrible thing if it happens to you or loved ones, but the incidence of it happening are literally astronomical. We have gun laws to keep guns out of the criminals hands, but criminals don't obey laws. And we need guns to protect us from criminals. Get rid of the criminals, problem solved.
 
What McVeigh did was extremely rare. Gun violence happens daily in cities across the nation.

Guns are, by far, the tool of choice for people with bad intents.

So we would be better off if these people stopped choosing guns and used other deadly weapons instead?

Also, taking guns away from law-abiding people won't prevent criminals from using guns. This point has been beaten to death.
 
So we would be better off if these people stopped choosing guns and used other deadly weapons instead?

Also, taking guns away from law-abiding people won't prevent criminals from using guns. This point has been beaten to death.
Gun control is a Dimtard talking point. Chicago proves it on a daily basis.
 
So no one is actually threatening to disarm American citizens.

I do agree that 'assault' style weapons get relatively too much attention.
Incorrect. I believe you’re being intellectually dishonest. As stated earlier, they have to chip away at it to get there. Think this is just AR’s?

Ok….

 
If you were able to magically eliminate all guns you would eliminate all gun crime. Yeah, people would still kill each other but it would be way more difficult. People use guns for crime for a reason.

re. conservative/liberal, I think gun nuts are nuts. Just as nutty as any extreme left wing bozos. Peta, tree huggers, etc.
There it is…. The picture is being painted. You just labeled all gun owners as nuts? What’s your threshold of criteria that equals a gun nut?
 
So we would be better off if these people stopped choosing guns and used other deadly weapons instead?

Also, taking guns away from law-abiding people won't prevent criminals from using guns. This point has been beaten to death.
Would we be better off if criminals quit using guns? Well, duh! Guns are very effective. They can kill a lot of people quickly from a distance.

Nobody wants to disarm law-abiding people. Even if they took your 'assault' style guns you'd still have a ton of weapons from which to choose.
 
If you were able to magically eliminate all guns you would eliminate all gun crime. Yeah, people would still kill each other but it would be way more difficult. People use guns for crime for a reason.

re. conservative/liberal, I think gun nuts are nuts. Just as nutty as any extreme left wing bozos. Peta, tree huggers, etc.
There are between 13k - 17k people killed every year with guns.
There are between 10k - 12k people killed every year by drunk driving.
What do you think about alcohol nuts?...or driving nuts?
 
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There it is…. The picture is being painted. You just labeled all gun owners as nuts? What’s your threshold of criteria that equals a gun nut?
No, gun owners are not necessarily gun nuts.

I'd say if someone works 'shall not be infringed' into every gun conversation, they may qualify as a gun nut. :)
 
A while back during one of the mass shootings hysteria, I did some research on "so called" assault rifles (which are no more deadly than most high capacity hunting rifles. The percentage of deaths from mass shooting deaths was dwarfed by the annual number of deaths by indigestion and choking. It's a horrible thing if it happens to you or loved ones, but the incidence of it happening are literally astronomical. We have gun laws to keep guns out of the criminals hands, but criminals don't obey laws. And we need guns to protect us from criminals. Get rid of the criminals, problem solved.
There have been 48 'mass shootings' involving an AR15 since...1985
 
There are between 13k - 17k people killed every year with guns.
There are between 10k - 12k people killed every year by drunk driving.
What do you think about alcohol nuts?...or driving nuts?
Is someone out there manipulating data and claiming alcohol isn't dangerous? Even the alcohol companies put warnings all over their products.
 
No, gun owners are not necessarily gun nuts.

I'd say if someone works 'shall not be infringed' into every gun conversation, they may qualify as a gun nut. :)
I'm not trying to be combative, but you seem very uniformed.
I don't think you realize what gun owners (people who you describe as gun nuts but in reality, are just mostly hunters and sport shooters) go thru on a constant basis. There are an estimated 90 million gun owners in this country and a handful of mostly already convicted felons are committing these crimes.
To suggest that this no infringements are taking place is ridiculous. There are states that you cannot legally drive thru with your gun to go hunting in another state.
 
Would we be better off if criminals quit using guns? Well, duh! Guns are very effective. They can kill a lot of people quickly from a distance.

Nobody wants to disarm law-abiding people. Even if they took your 'assault' style guns you'd still have a ton of weapons from which to choose.
And 9mm. Then once that’s done they move on to the next gun on the list, but you already know this.

Where is BSC to call someone a name when you need him?
 
If you were able to magically eliminate all guns you would eliminate all gun crime. Yeah, people would still kill each other but it would be way more difficult. People use guns for crime for a reason.

re. conservative/liberal, I think gun nuts are nuts. Just as nutty as any extreme left wing bozos. Peta, tree huggers, etc.
You can think that...no problem. But do you know what % crime they are responsible for? I do. Ask, and I will tell you! CCL holders commit less than 2% of all crimes with guns. You have some lib blood in the woodshed, Theo. Gun nuts may keep your Country free for you one day when these socialists make their move. THEY know it, and it is the ONLY reason they are afraid to move on us. We are EXACTLY why the second amendment was created...to protect us FROM government.
 
I'm not trying to be combative, but you seem very uniformed.
I don't think you realize what gun owners (people who you describe as gun nuts but in reality, are just mostly hunters and sport shooters) go thru on a constant basis. There are an estimated 90 million gun owners in this country and a handful of mostly already convicted felons are committing these crimes.
To suggest that this no infringements are taking place is ridiculous. There are states that you cannot legally drive thru with your gun to go hunting in another state.
VERY uninformed...to much MSNBC or CNN.
 
And 9mm. Then once that’s done they move on to the next gun on the list, but you already know this.

Where is BSC to call someone a name when you need him?
The slippery slope, incrementalism. Drip, drip, drip, slow erosion of a Constitutional right. Full disclosure, I only have two guns, both shotguns. But I've considered getting a CCP and gun to keep under my seat. Too damn many crazies running in the streets, I'm getting older and a firearm properly aimed is the great equalizer.
 
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No, gun owners are not necessarily gun nuts.

I'd say if someone works 'shall not be infringed' into every gun conversation, they may qualify as a gun nut. :)
Well that would mean a majority of gun owners including myself. Why? Because you don’t take away rights that the constitution guarantees. Furthermore, one shouldn’t have to ask permission (obtain a permit) for something that is a right.

So yes, your conservatism becomes more questionable with each post.
 
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