You like what he said about what? Thats the thing, his comment made no sense. Which part of his comment was relevant to the video-that you liked?
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You like what he said about what? Thats the thing, his comment made no sense. Which part of his comment was relevant to the video-that you liked?
You are becoming annoying...you weren't around years ago when I was THE queen of mean and the nasty little smack princess, were you?
I'm older, kinder, and gentler.
Do not poke the mama bear.
Leave it be, sweetie. And no formulaic comebacks like "you haven't answered the question..."
No. Just to annoy you...cause I can. 😈
You don’t annoy me. You are the board liz cheney, same relevancy. Zip. It explains why you and Mitt get along so well. I do question the intelligence level of someone who agrees with something, but cannot explain what it is they are agreeing with.
And Sorry liz, I don’t take orders.
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And how long did it take them to develop the polio vaccine? And how long until the public fully signed on and we got enough people vaccinated to virtually eliminate polio? And how many “breakthrough” polio infections were there?
The clown I know I’ve been watching for over a year is Fauci! Talk about a 🤡 he can go F himself, he’s been a big part of the problem!
I think she just liked that he was pro-vax. What he said really didn't matter after she figured out he is on 'her side' on this issue.
Yep. This was a great study/display of human behavior, and this a one of many reasons people don’t trust things right now. People are just blindly jumping into things without actually looking into things.
Totally agreed. Fauci has caused so Mini problems with his flip-flopping and misinformation and hiding some secrets about what he may have been funding before all this started. Is single-handedly created a great deal of confusion that we argue about in here and the miss trust towards the government that is understandable by the people in here and other places. What’s sad is I honestly agree with about 90% of what you guys agree with and I get why you just trust the government.
I know you do, from early on conversation with you here & off line, I also understand what you see on the front line in the hospital, that’s why I always listen to anyone who is in the field, I respect that. As with anything, there are different views even from the front lines. As far as this stuff, I’m in full agreement with Dr. Malone, that not everyone needs to be vaccinated, I believe the most vulnerable should be, that’s it, the majority of people who get the virus will make it through even without lasting problems, from the fact that this isn’t going away & people will continue to become infected vaxxed or not, I believe people need to look more at their way of living & ensure they are fit & healthy instead of obese & unhealthy, it’s your best defense. As for vax, those vulnerable should be protected once vaxxed, that’s what they tell us, so it shouldn’t matter if healthy unvaxxed asymptotic people spread it to them.
I also have to wonder with the financial benefits that Covid testing & positive cases brought to numerous agencies throughout this country, how many of the flawed PCR tests that they are now scrambling to make excuses for, were the cause for so many high counts numbers of Covid, when in all likelihood many were the flu. Trust is a big factor, there’s too many in our government playing Fu@king games and it isn’t right.
Not going to spend an hour on it. From what I hear and read elsewhere he is not recommending vaccine for the younger population. He does not advise to avoid getting vaccinated. If you claim the government has messed up the reporting and given poor advice I have no argument. All I know is there is a resurgence of the vaccines and it is killing mostly the unvaccinated. That fact can not be disputed.
Thats fair, and pretty admirable of you to revisit this.
These are some of the outlandish things he said in the video that Mitt and Liz apparently had a problem with
1. The vaccines are working
2. We don’t know what we don’t know on long term side effects
3. Suppression of information is never a good thing in science or otherwise.
Apparently mitt and liz think this is misinformation
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You might be right about his advice on younger people, but I can't recall having heard him say that. However, if he did I don't think I'd disagree. There has to be a risk/reward analysis done and we aren't all going to have the same inputs in that equation.
Most of his message that's resonated with me is how strictly information about the vaccines is being curated. If it's not positive it gets cancelled immediately. That breeds suspicion and fuels skeptics.
You're talking personal responsibility...and society is running in the opposite direction.
I'm not vaxxed yet. If I die or get permanently disabled it's 100% my fault - not the unvaxxed person who infected me. I made the choice for me. I want to wait on the Novavax but it's moving really slow.
I also have changed my diet and exercise routine in the last several months and am trying to lose the last 15-20lbs to get to my ideal weight.
How would you feel if you caught the virus and spread it to a few or more people before you had symptoms?
All you know is what you are told that you want to hear.
Here's the truth:
Believe what you want. The rest of us will consider both sides and make an informed decision.
Sob stories from internet doctors won't cut it.
PS: Question for the internet doctors: Why didn't you guys tell us a year ago that people being vaccinated would still be getting covid?
Because you didn't know. Now tell us why we should listen to you?
The deaths are among the unvaccinated.
Ok, good point.
I’m still a proponent for all to be vaccinated and feel sorry for anyone that dies or gets serious disability even if they decided not to get vaccinated. I’ve had many unvaccinated patients recently who have bad symptoms and are sorry they did not get vaccinated.
So your references are about the vaccinated getting infected. Please show me where a majority of deaths are among the vaccinated. Who is the sheep here?
If they were shot, what’s the problem? If they choose not to just like he said, it’s your personal responsibility as is the person who took the shot. I’ve caught the flu before from someone I’ve probably given the flu as well, I know people die from that as well with co morbidities so I don’t see a difference, do you really? I was forced to take a flu shot in the military, many times I still got the flu & pretty hard core as well, but it seems just like with the flu, this is something you will need to get every 6months to yearly, it ain’t going away & it ain’t a vaccine.
So now you don't care about cases? Interesting.
I'll ask again: A year ago when you and the other internet doctors here started telling everyone to take these vaccines, why didn't ANY of you tell us that a year later, fully vaccinated people would be getting covid. And dying from covid?
Because you didn't know. Now that you DO know, you haven't changed or altered your defense of taking the vaccines, in fact you guys seem to have all doubled-down.
That shows us this is all about politics for you, not public health,
How would you feel if you talked a patient into getting the vaccine, then they later got sick or died from it?
It is a thousand times more likely the opposite would happen. They got the vaccine and didn’t die!
Spin and slant and miss quoting creating more misinformation about covid. Make the best decision for you, ignore this.
Nope, don't believe you. Last year you told us to get the vaccine, it would protect us.
You never once told us the vaccine wouldn't work. You never once told us people would still get covid.
You never once told us people would get sick and die from it.
Fool me once...
Last year none of the internet doctors here told us the vaccines wouldn't work, they all said get it.
They either lied a year ago, or they were ignorant.
Either way, I'm done listening to anything they have to say. Track records matter, and they don't have one.
A year ago it was the Spanish Flu comparisons. Now it’s Polio. When we hit our next seasonal wave this fall are we sticking with Polio until ‘22 or do we pick another buzzword virus that elicits fear to compare this virus and it’s variant(s) that are nowhere near as deadly as what they’re comparing it to? This game is getting old. The f’n toothpaste is out of the tube, get your vaccine or don’t. This disease is with us for the rest of our lives, if you die from it that really sucks but for all the Darwin lovers out there this is survival of the fittest. Take whatever chance you want but the negativity and fear mongering over something that is only affecting the absolute weakest among us has been over the top.
The only thing I've ever truly heard him say definitively is to stop silencing concern and that truly informed consent is the best practice.
I've never personally heard where he advised or didn't advise a select group from getting the vaccine. However, seeing as how pneumonia has killed more juveniles than covid has since the outbreak, such a recommendation, given risk vs reward, doesn't sound entirely unreasonable.
In all honesty, I see a lot of dumb arguments on both sides. It’s a virus, it’s man made, it was created in Wuhan, I’ve provided enough information to this board to show that. I’m not about the vaccine argument as I don’t care. People are going to wear a mask or eight, others will stick their middle finger to authoritarian policies. People will die, people will survive, that’s nature. What sickens me is the DC elites politicizing people’s agony, left and right.
Some people just want to live their lives, others want them locked up for not being vaccinated. The virus did exactly what it was supposed to do, divide people world wide. We see it every day on this board and in our lives. The more we fight about it, the more it divides us all. This is exactly how politicians make their money, it’s all a grift.
This country ends in two ways… Authoritarianism or rebellion. Comply or defy, it’s really that simple.
Agree completely but I also understand the risk vs reward take on this vaccine. I understand some people's conflict.
If you are in poor health (especially overweight, diabetic, immune issues or respiratory issues) or if you're over 55, this vaccine is a no-brainer imho. Not getting vaccinated under the conditions above is ENTIRELY unwise.
I've gotten to the point where I would almost certainly get vaccinated if I didn't already have antibodies even though I'm in great shape and I don't suffer from any of the above or anything else. And I'm a guy who sees my personal doctor at least twice a year on top of 4 wellness screens per year at work.
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