Interested in truth about mRNA vax technology?
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Spin and slant and miss quoting creating more misinformation about vaccines. Make the best decision for you, ignore this.
Well. You just became irrelevant even more. I guess we now know why you have the “success” rates you have. Closed minded doc, explains alot. My guess, you didn’t even listen.
FWIW. The guy is pro vax. It’s his damn technology behind the vax, so he better be pro vax.
@BillCutting4585 highly recommend watching. I mean, we are only talking life and death decisions. Take all information you can and figure it out for yourself.
As for doc mcstuffins. Ignorance is bliss
But since you’re a highly educated, 7 figure doc, tell us what was incorrect in the video.
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I stand by my response
Personal choice, but everything you have quoted is wrong and miss information. In my opinion with my medical degree in 20 years of experience an actual taking care of Covid patients.
Which is what? What is misinformation? Your hard line stance isn’t working for your patients or to win hearts and minds to vax. You didn’t watch the video. End of story. Maybe if you did, you could actually win some hearts and minds to vax. You remind me of many military docs. My guess, the breadth of your treatment….here, take some motrin.
Your just like every damn stubborn, old military doc.
Are you serious?
Do you even know who this guy is? Do you know what he helped create? Do you know what he said in that video?
He is not saying don't take the vax. Ultimately I guess he is addressing people who are doing what you did in this post...people trying silence anything, no matter how minute, if it can possibly be spun as critical or negative of the vaccine.
Informed consent be damned...propaganda is better for the masses? GTFO...the dude has forgotten more about the vaccine than you will ever know and you come with this BS? That's incredibly disappointing.
Robert W. Malone, M.D., M.S.
Dr. Malone is the discoverer of in-vitro and in-vivo RNA transfection and the inventor of mRNA vaccines, while he was at the Salk Institute in 1988. His research was continued at Vical in 1989, where the first in-vivo mammalian experiments were designed by him. The mRNA, constructs, reagents were developed at the Salk institute and Vical by Dr. Malone. The initial patent disclosures were written by Dr. Malone in 1988-1989. Dr. Malone was also an inventor of DNA vaccines in 1988 and 1989. This work results in over 10 patents and numerous publications, yielding about 7000 citations for this work. Dr. Malone was also an inventor of DNA vaccines in 1988 and 1989.
Dr. Malone has extensive research and development experience in the areas of pre-clinical discovery research, clinical trials, vaccines, gene therapy, bio-defense, and immunology. He has over twenty years of management and leadership experience in academia, pharmaceutical and biotechnology industries, as well as in governmental and non-governmental organizations.
Dr. Malone specializes in clinical research, medical affairs, regulatory affairs, project management, proposal management (large grants and contracts), vaccines and biodefense. This includes writing, developing, reviewing and managing vaccine, bio-threat and biologics clinical trials and clinical development strategies. He has been involved in developing, designing, and providing oversight of approximately forty phase 1 clinical trials and twenty phase 2 clinical trials, as well as five phase 3 clinical trials. He has served as medical director/medical monitor on approximately forty phase 1 clinical trials, and on twenty phase 2 clinical trials, including those run at vaccine-focused Clinical Research Organizations. His proposal development work has yielded clients billions of dollars.
Scientifically trained at UC Davis, UC San Diego, and at the Salk Institute Molecular Biology and Virology laboratories, Dr. Malone is an internationally recognized scientist (virology, immunology, molecular biology) and is known as one of the original inventors of mRNA vaccination and DNA Vaccination. His discoveries in mRNA non viral delivery systems are considered the key to the current COVID-19 vaccine strategies. Dr. Malone holds numerous fundamental domestic and foreign patents in the fields of gene delivery, delivery formulations, and vaccines.
He received his medical training at Northwestern University (MD) and Harvard University (Clinical Research Post Graduate) medical school, and in Pathology at UC Davis.
Dr. Malone has close to 100 peer-reviewed publications and published abstracts and has over 11,477 citations of his peer reviewed publications, as verified by Google Scholar. His google scholar ranking is “outstanding” for impact factors. He has been an invited speaker at over 50 conferences, has chaired numerous conferences and he has sat on or served as chairperson on numerous NIAID and DoD study sections.
From wiki if you prefer...😂
Robert Wallace Malone is an American virologist and immunologist criticized for promoting misinformation during the Covid-19 pandemic.
Not true btw. He is merely stating that the absolute claims of vaccine safety MIGHT be overstated.
One can watch the video and decide for themselves or they can bow to others that just say, trust me...he isn't worth listening to.
Robert Wallace Malone is an American virologist and immunologist criticized for promoting misinformation during the Covid-19 pandemic.
Not true btw. He is merely stating that the absolute claims of vaccine safety MIGHT be overstated.
One can watch the video and decide for themselves or they can bow to others that just say, trust me...he isn't worth listening to.
It doesn't say EVERYTHING they want to hear so it's not worth people's time.
Despite inventing the technology, the guy isn't worth hearing because he doesn't COMPLETELY toe the line. Some prefer propaganda over an array of information. The American way...right?
Nothing he said in the video would keep me from taking the vaccine.
He offers information, scientific information, that he has amassed over a lifetime of service in his field.
He isn't saying don't take the vaccine. He is saying tap the breaks on the bullshit pretending to know stuff that we don't actually know yet.
I'd fully expect a similar response from a Chinese Communist circa 1970 if someone was critical of Mao. I must admit hearing your criticism here is...damn...utterly shocking.
Pffft. Like he has more knowledge or experience than an ER doc that is so scientific to just say “the vaccines are safe”
Everything I’ve seen is this. He thinks the mRNA vaccines are effective, but he’s really concerned that any negative info about them is being cancelled.
@gator1776 he’s probably on the same track as you - but unlike you he understands this cake isn’t fully baked and people have to take those jabs eyes wide open. When you can’t even hear all the actual news how can your decision be informed?
He’s just asking for information to be free.
This thread says alot about many of the posters on here. Lots of folks it seems are making lots of ASSumptions about the video without watching.
Lots of folks know more than one of the Foremost experts on this subject. Crazy times, but hey...they want you to listen to them.
Lots of folks know more than one of the Foremost experts on this subject. Crazy times, but hey...they want you to listen to them.
So you are posting a video by a guy basically saying mRNA vaccines are great but we shouldn't put them on a platform yet cuz we don't gave decades of data and no piece of science is perfect or infallible so....we shouldn't take it?
IS that what you are saying?
IS that what you are saying?
I am not saying anything. Thats the point. The guy that is basically responsible for mRNA is saying lots of things. It’s just information. He wasn’t telling you to take it or not take it. He was just saying information shouldnt be suppressed, and we don’t know everything yet. He didn’t say anything about needing decades worth of data, or that you shouldn’t take it because science isn’t infallible. The guy works on creating vaccines for a living, so I hardly think that’s what he was getting at.
@fatman76 and @BamaFan1137 summarized some of it.
Whether you take it or not is up to you, as it should be.
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Ya, just don't keep the story going that Malone is saying don't get vaccinated. He isn't. As for the "I'M not taking it because we don't have years of information" crowd you should try to get some opinions of people who remember polio. Polio was devastating, and then it just went away. Because people got the vaccine. period. The original vaccine(in the US) was dangerous but people got it anyway because it was better than polio.
WTF are you talking about keep the story going? It was never started. Not one person ITT said Malone was saying not to get vaccinated. Also, he said nothing about “years of information”. Lastly, This is not Polio, and we aren’t in 1950 so having that discussion is asinine.
I swear, some of y’all are so dug in you have a difficult time with information. This guy was as down the middle and even keeled as can be, yet somehow you came away feeling offended and are making stuff up. Weird.
The internet is full of people trying to quote malone saying don't get vaccinated right now. They are using quotes saying the mRNA vaccines are new to try to convince people not to get vaccinated. Which, as we agree, Malone is not saying.
The rapid deployment of polio vaccines is actually a very good anology to this vaccine push. Though the viruses have almost nothing in common
The rapid deployment of polio vaccines is actually a very good anology to this vaccine push. Though the viruses have almost nothing in common
I think you are right about this, but polio didn't mutate and throw off new strains. I also don't think polio was the result of biological warfare gone awry. Apples and oranges.
Thanks for sharing!!!
Very informative. It is so hard to find unbiased and uncensored information about the virus.
Very informative. It is so hard to find unbiased and uncensored information about the virus.
Watch the videos at the end of this, with data from the CDC, he states that what we are currently doing could drive promotion of the virus mutating to become vaccine resistant.
Pretty much shouldn’t be vaccinating entire population, only the vulnerable & treating others that get it with therapeutics.
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Pretty interesting that institutions wouldn’t let their experts speak to her on it? Glad Dr. Malone isn’t fearful, his track record speaks for itself, unlike fraud Fauci!
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No, I just find it interesting when folks blindly agree without having information to do so.
I'm a believer in vaccines.
mRNA is not new, it's now likely to be used in flu vaccines, and boosters aren't unusual.
As far as MY choice, I'm good with it.
That has ZERO to do with the video and subsequent post by doc that you apparently agreed with, which proves my point. You are blindly agreeing with something based on ASSUMPTION
Just thought you might like to actually comment on topic instead of off topic. Guess not. I have no issue with you copying and pasting the same comment in multiple threads, just thought you might want it to be relevant.
Maybe in a thread about Golf you will let us all know how you feel about vaccines. Looking forward to it
This thread is a textbook example of how the closed minded react when you ask them to open their minds and think for themselves.
No, that is not what he is saying at all. That's what you said he said but that isn't what he actually said at all.
No one is saying that you shouldn't be good with your choice. No one is saying that mRNA is a new technology...in fact this guy created it.
People, including the guy in the video, are saying that we shouldn't be suppressing information.
When @gator1776 said the video wasn't worth watching, you liked that comment and that surprised me. Again, no one is making judgment on your choice to vaccinate. Why would anyone have an issue with the father of mRNA technology speaking about mRNA? That doesn't make sense.
Come on guys. He’s not the father of messenger RNA that would be God. He’s not the father of understanding messenger RNA that would be Watson and crick. He’s not the father vaccinations that would be Jonas Salk and George Washington. He’s not even the father of using messenger RNA technology to introduce genomes into viruses or other cells. He’s just the clown they found for the interview. Sometimes y’all are really gullible.
You have issues man. Good luck with them.
I know this may be shocking but I go to other sites where this was discussed and other Docs and science dudes participated. I liked what 76 said and thus agreed/liked.
Get over it.
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