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In before the gun confiscation NUTS.....

Do I think the 2nd amendment is keeping the government from attacking us? No, I do not. They'll attack us if they want to. A law won't stand in their way.

I don't believe that it's just a coincidence that more repressive regimes surpress or eliminate private ownership of firearms.

History is ripe with examples of such regimes restricting the ownership of weapons like swords, longbows, maces, flails, ect.
 
I don't believe that it's just a coincidence that more repressive regimes surpress or eliminate private ownership of firearms.

History is ripe with examples of such regimes restricting the ownership of weapons like swords, longbows, maces, flails, ect.
Do you think any of those regimes would have been stopped by a single law?
 
It's reasonable to assume that governmental overreach is less likely if its citizenry is better armed.

And no, it's not all about going to war with DOD. Government includes federal, state, county and municipal authority.
I agree that overreach is less likely if the citizens are armed but that, to me, doesn't translate to few, if any, restrictions on guns.

I'm good with people jumping thru hoops to get guns.
 
It is a single law. One sentence.

We have a gun crazy society, no doubt. The good guys and the bad guys.
It's a law at the beginning. If we had chosen, like the Japanese for example, to have a gun free society from the get go, we'd more than likely have one.

Incidentally, what little gun crime they have in Japan, and I believe it's less than ten homicides a year, is exclusively the territory of Japanese organized crime.

Apparently the draconian gun laws and general unavailability still doesn't stop them from acquiring and using firearms.

Puzzling, that.
 
It's a law at the beginning. If we had chosen, like the Japanese for example, to have a gun free society from the get go, we'd more than likely have one.

Incidentally, what little gun crime they have in Japan, and I believe it's less than ten homicides a year, is exclusively the territory of Japanese organized crime.

Apparently the draconian gun laws and general unavailability still doesn't stop them from acquiring and using firearms.

Puzzling, that.
We'll never end gun crime. I think everyone from the far left to the far right realizes that.

So, Japan has less guns and less gun crime? Makes perfect sense to most of us.
 
They have no civilian gun ownership and still have gun crime.

That's how you should have parsed my statement.
It is an absolute fact that they have way less guns and way less gun crime, correct?

I don't think anyone who has ever argued in favor of enhanced gun restrictions has suggested that it would end crime. Nobody is surprised that there is some gun crime in Japan.
 
It is an absolute fact that they have way less guns and way less gun crime, correct?

I don't think anyone who has ever argued in favor of enhanced gun restrictions has suggested that it would end crime. Nobody is surprised that there is some gun crime in Japan.
Once again the point whizzed over your head. The people of Japan have no guns. Only the government and criminals do.
 
Once again the point whizzed over your head. The people of Japan have no guns. Only the government and criminals do.
...and they have very little gun violence.

You even said it, "...Incidentally, what little gun crime they have in Japan, and I believe it's less than ten homicides a year...".
 
I don't believe that it's just a coincidence that more repressive regimes surpress or eliminate private ownership of firearms.

History is ripe with examples of such regimes restricting the ownership of weapons like swords, longbows, maces, flails, ect.
Hitler’s platform and the current far left are eerily similar
 
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Do you think any of those regimes would have been stopped by a single law?

Yes, it's easily reasonable to assume many repressive regimes may have fallen victim to their populations having access to restricted weapons.

The regimes agreed with me btw...that's why they restricted the access to those weapons. They sure as hell didn't do it for public safety.
 
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I agree that overreach is less likely if the citizens are armed but that, to me, doesn't translate to few, if any, restrictions on guns.

I'm good with people jumping thru hoops to get guns.

It's about control Theo. And once you've given it up, there won't be any hoops to jump through.

And we already have to jump through hoops to buy guns. We could do a MUCH better job of enforcing the laws we currently have and that would eliminate most of our current issues. If that was the actual goal, and clearly it is NOT, then we'd already be doing it.
 
Let me prove this to you simpleton in reverse. What do authoritarian governments do before they take power away from the people? Herein lies your answer
Hitler was a BIG FAN of gun control.

Lots of Theo proposals here...limiting who could own what guns, banning hollow point ammo over a certain size...etc.

 
I used to teach 7th grade Civics. We would have discussions in class about teachers being allowed to carry for school safety.

Virtually all students were against this. Their reasoning was the teacher would use it on the students when they got mad. Essentially, teacher with no gun safe. Teacher with gun turns into savage monster.

This was the way 11-12 year olds thought about guns. Reminds me of debating some adults in this topic.
 
I used to teach 7th grade Civics. We would have discussions in class about teachers being allowed to carry for school safety.

Virtually all students were against this. Their reasoning was the teacher would use it on the students when they got mad. Essentially, teacher with no gun safe. Teacher with gun turns into savage monster.

This was the way 11-12 year olds thought about guns. Reminds me of debating some adults in this topic.
cc @GatorTheo
 
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I realize this is going to be too complicated for you and your Trumper buddies to understand but, again, I can't be a 'rino' because I'm not a republican.
YOU DON'T SAY...........????? LOLOLOLOL Buddy...this was the most obvious thing you have EVER posted. EVERY Republican I know believes in the Constitution. EVERY lefty I know does not..unless it benefits them. Where do you see yourself here? I see you WAY closer to a lefty.
 
YOU DON'T SAY...........????? LOLOLOLOL Buddy...this was the most obvious thing you have EVER posted. EVERY Republican I know believes in the Constitution. EVERY lefty I know does not..unless it benefits them. Where do you see yourself here? I see you WAY closer to a lefty.
Wait....rinos believe in the constitution?
 
I agree that overreach is less likely if the citizens are armed but that, to me, doesn't translate to few, if any, restrictions on guns.

I'm good with people jumping thru hoops to get guns.
Most dims are. Another perfect example of not following our Constitution. You dims do not understand why the Constitution was created, and what its purpose is.
 
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