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I just did some research on the 2020 election

So let's look at this logically; You believe at least half the country hates, foaming at the mouth hates Trump like you do.

Have you honestly and logically thought about what the country would look like if that was true? We all know that rabid liberals will riot and destroy, so this nation would very likely be in a Civil War right now if half the country really hated Trump as you do.

Which has been your main rationalization for how the 2020 election was free and legal: You claim everyone voted AGAINST Trump, not for Hiden.

Here's another way to look at it: Who is more popular among democrats: Trump today, or Abe Lincoln in 1861?

Is Trump more popular among dems than Abe was?

Why would we be in a civil war?
  • I loathe Trump.
  • In 2020, I voted “against” Trump instead of “for” Biden, as did most “Biden voters.”
  • I live in zip code that Trump won by over 20 points in 2020.

Yet I live among and get along fine with Trumpers every day.
 
Why would we be in a civil war?
  • I loathe Trump.
  • In 2020, I voted “against” Trump instead of “for” Biden, as did most “Biden voters.”
  • I live in zip code that Trump won by over 20 points in 2020.

Yet I live among and get along fine with Trumpers every day.
1. Stealing elections
2. Continued censorship for ONE party
3. FBI and DOJ against ONE political party
4. Indoctrination of our very young of sicko gender tranny BS
5. lefts attempt to turn America in to a socialist/communist Nation


And there is more.....just wanted to make sure you understood.
 
Why would we be in a civil war?
  • I loathe Trump.
  • In 2020, I voted “against” Trump instead of “for” Biden, as did most “Biden voters.”
  • I live in zip code that Trump won by over 20 points in 2020.

Yet I live among and get along fine with Trumpers every day.

Glad you can. I am, however, amazed that others cannot do as you've done.

I've mentioned before that I have a family member who is married to a same-sex partner. I've been pretty clear on my views about such. I still love both of them and even gave my family member away at their wedding.

However, the person I gave her away to told me that they could no longer associate with me because I voted for Trump in 2016. According to her, Trump was going to take away her right to be married to my family member and she was disassociating herself from everyone who voted for him.

That's just nuts.
 
Good thing we have never had our legal system put their foot heavily on the scale for ONE political party. I like you, and your posts.Really do. You are exceptionally smart..it shows. Using those smarts..do you REALLY think Brandon got 81 million REAL votes. I mean people with voting ID's sending each and every LEGAL vote in 81 million times? And very respectfully, abortion may be a SLIGHT loser for Republicans overall...but I do not think you are taking in to consideration many liberal voters who consider killing a baby very wrong.

And if you look into the cases brought to court that were rejected, none of the cases were rejected based on the Merit of the charge. None. Thats something the Libs will never mention.
 
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Capt - first off, I appreciate your kind words and your unending passion for what makes this country great. I too really enjoy your posts - we may disagree at points, but we are never disagreeable.

To answer your question, yes, I think in a country in 331M votes that the Democratic Party and Machine which includes, so clearly after the Twitter revelation, big tech and MSM, was able to bring 81M legal voters to bear. Might there have been 1,000 here or 500 there of illegal votes. Sure, the law of big numbers means that you never have flawless voting, but not enough to turn the fate of the overall election. That got litigated again, again, again, again, etc.

No way Fox news is shelling out 787M or even 7 cents to anyone if they had half the facts on their side. For example, if this was the Lab Leak, they are not settling ANYTHING. They didn't and even Tucker knew that.

Note that 81 / 331M is only 24.47%. Do I think that the machine was able to get out 24.47% of the country to vote for the Democratic party of which Joe Biden was the titular head? Yes, that is reasonable.

Now, let's say that 40% of legal voters LOVE trump (not even 50%). Of the same 331M voters, that is 132.4M votes and a trouncing of Biden.

Where were THOSE voters? So that means that 132.4 - 77.2M = 55.2M voters STAYED home versus voting for Trump.

So, Trump got 23% of the total population. Can he get to just 30% or 99.3M votes? Call it a clean 100M votes. THAT is what he needs to shoot for.

Where is the state by state machinery to get that done?
My view is that it is far more likely that in 2024, Biden gets 90M clean votes than Billy Napier wins 8 games. That is right - a 9M increase.

If Trump can get to 100M, this thing is done for him.

Note that all of this is a looking forward motion not a looking back.
Where are you getting 331M votes??
In 2020, the US population was 329+M, (today is 336+M). A % of those are not old enough to vote.
Only 168+M where registered to vote.
 
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Where are you getting 331M votes??
In 2020, the US population was 329+M, (today is 336+M). A % of those are not old enough to vote.
Only 168+M where registered to vote.
See the adjust below this initial post. It was an oversight.
 
Glad you can. I am, however, amazed that others cannot do as you've done.

I've mentioned before that I have a family member who is married to a same-sex partner. I've been pretty clear on my views about such. I still love both of them and even gave my family member away at their wedding.

However, the person I gave her away to told me that they could no longer associate with me because I voted for Trump in 2016. According to her, Trump was going to take away her right to be married to my family member and she was disassociating herself from everyone who voted for him.

That's just nuts.
That's a shame. This is the loss of free, polite expression that has come to characterize our public discourse.
 
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Why would we be in a civil war?
  • I loathe Trump.
  • In 2020, I voted “against” Trump instead of “for” Biden, as did most “Biden voters.”
  • I live in zip code that Trump won by over 20 points in 2020.

Yet I live among and get along fine with Trumpers every day.
Trump in 2020 or Abe Lincoln in 1861. Who did the dems hate more?
 
Glad you can. I am, however, amazed that others cannot do as you've done.

I've mentioned before that I have a family member who is married to a same-sex partner. I've been pretty clear on my views about such. I still love both of them and even gave my family member away at their wedding.

However, the person I gave her away to told me that they could no longer associate with me because I voted for Trump in 2016. According to her, Trump was going to take away her right to be married to my family member and she was disassociating herself from everyone who voted for him.

That's just nuts.
SMH as Reagan would say they "know" stuff that isn't true. Trump supported gay marriage. I DO NOT.
 
Glad you can. I am, however, amazed that others cannot do as you've done.

I've mentioned before that I have a family member who is married to a same-sex partner. I've been pretty clear on my views about such. I still love both of them and even gave my family member away at their wedding.

However, the person I gave her away to told me that they could no longer associate with me because I voted for Trump in 2016. According to her, Trump was going to take away her right to be married to my family member and she was disassociating herself from everyone who voted for him.

That's just nuts.
Liberalism is a disease for which there is no cure. Retired Bruce was wife and my favorite server at older daughter's steakhouse. We always asked for Bruce. Since we refused to ride with Bruce at a gay rights parade, we hate gays, according to my Fort Sill feather merchant Hillary worshipping sister.
 
Glad you can. I am, however, amazed that others cannot do as you've done.

I've mentioned before that I have a family member who is married to a same-sex partner. I've been pretty clear on my views about such. I still love both of them and even gave my family member away at their wedding.

However, the person I gave her away to told me that they could no longer associate with me because I voted for Trump in 2016. According to her, Trump was going to take away her right to be married to my family member and she was disassociating herself from everyone who voted for him.

That's just nuts.
You should inform her that Trump was the first president to enter office in favor of gay marriage.
 
You should inform her that Trump was the first president to enter office in favor of gay marriage.

I have. I also calmed her down, somewhat, and told her she was accepting propaganda as fact.

When Trump left office and there was never a challenge to their marriage, she apologized to me. She still thinks I'm nuts but that's fine. She also knows that she's my family and that I love her.
 
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Interesting what happens when you ask some people to critically think about the validity of their talking points.


Poor GhostOfMatchesMalone.

While I’ve been away, he’s spent the last couple of days lurking like Wile E. Coyote behind the sagebrush next to a mountain highway. He painted over the original road sign with “Abe Lincoln Canyon Blvd” and “Trump Pass.”

Over Abe Lincoln Canyon Blvd, he has an anvil from the ACME company dangling from a rope.

Trump Pass is nothing more than a large painting of a fake road he set up to disguise the edge of a cliff.

No Roadrunner will fall for this oafish Wile E. Coyote attempt at checkmate, leaving GhostOfMatchesMalone alone with his unrequited obsession.

Don’t worry—I hear cold showers can help cool the flames of passion. Or, just take your frustration out on a pint of Häagen-Dazs and some cheesecake.
 
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Poor GhostOfMatchesMalone.

While I’ve been away, he’s spent the last couple of days lurking like Wile E. Coyote behind the sagebrush next to a mountain highway. He painted over the original road sign with “Abe Lincoln Canyon Blvd” and “Trump Pass.”

Over Abe Lincoln Canyon Blvd, he has an anvil from the ACME company dangling from a rope.

Trump Pass is nothing more than a large painting of a fake road he set up to disguise the edge of a cliff.

No Roadrunner will fall for this oafish Wile E. Coyote attempt at checkmate, leaving GhostOfMatchesMalone alone with his unrequited obsession.

Don’t worry—I hear cold showers can help cool the flames of passion. Or, just take your frustration out on a pint of Häagen-Dazs and some cheesecake.
I asked a simple question, Trump or Abe, and instead of just answering it, your guilt compelled you to create a wall of Bugs Bunny text in an attempt to deflect from your non answer.

If you haven't figured out, your non answers are far more revealing than if you had simply answered my simple question. I'm a bit surprised you can't see that.
 
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With JUST the info being censored about Hunters laptop(FBI has the laptop from 9/19 and KNEW what was on there, despite getting 51 people to lie right before the election)is enough to claim the election was stolen. If everyone knew then what we KNOW now...even the other stuff they did to cheat would not have been enough. There is still PLENTY of other things they did, and I still stand by my claim that only about 40-45 million REAL votes went to Brandon. And I bet today if you asked EVERYONE who they voted for...only about 25 million would admit it
 
Glad you can. I am, however, amazed that others cannot do as you've done.

I've mentioned before that I have a family member who is married to a same-sex partner. I've been pretty clear on my views about such. I still love both of them and even gave my family member away at their wedding.

However, the person I gave her away to told me that they could no longer associate with me because I voted for Trump in 2016. According to her, Trump was going to take away her right to be married to my family member and she was disassociating herself from everyone who voted for him.

That's just nuts.
We are in a battle that many just don’t quite grasp how far the left is willing to go. The right is not prepared like the left currently is. Sure, the right has the capability, but the Right isn’t even in the same ballpark where the left is playing.

I had an incident this summer where I went to a brew festival with a person I used to consider a friend (owner of a brewery) and three of his employees that are all Democrats. Known all of them for years, and thought they were pretty level headed moderate dems.

Anyway long story short, we were in A city none of us were from (Austin) and ended up at a dive bar looking for a late night meal. We walked into the place, and I knew it was a biker bar crowd. I made a small joke about this not being a place to order a bud light….and what did my buddy order me? Yep, you guessed it.

Then we end up out back (basically a dark alley) at a small table. One of the guys I was with said he recognized one of the guys at another table as being a Proud Boyz member. What happened next floored me. The guys I was with started staring at them and taunting them. Now, there were 3 tables of these guys and 5 of us total.

I immediately began trying to de-escalate, but everyone at those 3 tables got up at the exact same time and went inside and began playing pool. The manager came out and asked if we were there to start trouble just a couple minutes later. Two of the guys I was with were actually wanting to go moon them.

I felt like I was in a bad movie. In a town none of us were from, and thinking these guys are inside calling up reinforcements and we are going to get jumped in this alley. I did everything I could to try to talk sense into people I have known a very long time, and thought were fairly level headed. Took me almost an hour to get my group to leave. Once we got back to our BNB I freaking ripped into my buddy. Freaking asinine behavior for middle aged men.

IMO they put all of our lives at risk. That’s where the lefts mind is. Huge eye opener for me, and a relationship that ended on that night. IMO, God was showing me something I needed to see. There’s a storm coming. Hope everyone is ready.

Surround yourself with like minded people. People of faith. Tough times are here.
 
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With JUST the info being censored about Hunters laptop(FBI has the laptop from 9/19 and KNEW what was on there, despite getting 51 people to lie right before the election)is enough to claim the election was stolen. If everyone knew then what we KNOW now...even the other stuff they did to cheat would not have been enough. There is still PLENTY of other things they did, and I still stand by my claim that only about 40-45 million REAL votes went to Brandon. And I bet today if you asked EVERYONE who they voted for...only about 25 million would admit it
Chapter 8, Burying Biden Corruption is good reading in Rigged by Mollie Hemingway.
 
We are in a battle that many just don’t quite grasp how far the left is willing to go. The right is not prepared like the left currently is. Sure, the right has the capability, but the Right isn’t even in the same ballpark where the left is playing.

I had an incident this summer where I went to a brew festival with a person I used to consider a friend (owner of a brewery) and three of his employees that are all Democrats. Known all of them for years, and thought they were pretty level headed moderate dems.

Anyway long story short, we were in A city none of us were from (Austin) and ended up at a dive bar looking for a late night meal. We walked into the place, and I knew it was a biker bar crowd. I made a small joke about this not being a place to order a bud light….and what did my buddy order me? Yep, you guessed it.

Then we end up out back (basically a dark alley) at a small table. One of the guys I was with said he recognized one of the guys at another table as being a Proud Boyz member. What happened next floored me. The guys I was with started staring at them and taunting them. Now, there were 3 tables of these guys and 5 of us total.

I immediately began trying to de-escalate, but everyone at those 3 tables got up at the exact same time and went inside and began playing pool. The manager came out and asked if we were there to start trouble just a couple minutes later. Two of the guys I was with were actually wanting to go moon them.

I felt like I was in a bad movie. In a town none of us were from, and thinking these guys are inside calling up reinforcements and we are going to get jumped in this alley. I did everything I could to try to talk sense into people I have known a very long time, and thought were fairly level headed. Took me almost an hour to get my group to leave. Once we got back to our BNB I freaking ripped into my buddy. Freaking asinine behavior for middle aged men.

IMO they put all of our lives at risk. That’s where the lefts mind is. Huge eye opener for me, and a relationship that ended on that night. IMO, God was showing me something I needed to see. There’s a storm coming. Hope everyone is ready.

Surround yourself with like minded people. People of faith. Tough times are here.

I've been in a similar situation in Ybor City (alleged cartel people before I became a LEO) but it has been a while. I just don't go "out" with people who aren't family or lifelong friends anymore.

I'll hang with work buddies at their homes or mine but that's about it. And these days, I'll say, "it's time to leave" once, and then I leave. Babysitting drunks isn't my idea of fun.
 
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I've been in a similar situation in Ybor City (alleged cartel people before I became a LEO) but it has been a while. I just don't go "out" with people who aren't family or lifelong friends anymore.

I'll hang with work buddies at their homes or mine but that's about it. And these days, I'll say, "it's time to leave" once, and then I leave. Babysitting drunks isn't my idea of fun.
Agreed. This one event changed my thinking/behavior completely. Nothing more important than my family, and people being dumbasses and putting my ability to be there for them in jeopardy….

Not doing it.
 
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