Honest question for the Trump haters here

[fatman76]

So your theory is that there are no moderates or conservatives who 'hate' Trump? The only people who 'hate' Trump are democrat voters?

That is not what I've seen in my circle. I know a number of reliable republican voters who voted Biden because they couldn't stand Trump personally.

Anyway, 2020, whatever happened, is water under the bridge. It's over.

If Trump does end up being the R candidate in 2024, it will be interesting to see how it turns out. I'm sure some of you are convinced he will roll but I'm not confident.

No, my theory is there are not enough moderates to get Biden to 81MM votes. There are not enough people motivated by hate and animus to swing to the other side and vote for a lifelong swamp rat who didn't even campaign (and when he did it was a total disaster) left over after Trump's total.

Remember, that 81MM already has the 60-65MM people who turn out for popular leftist candidates (Obama, Hillary, etc.). There simply aren't enough active voters to go around to get Trump to 75MM and Biden to 81MM.

Put another way...Trump's 75MM votes would have been the most any candidate rec'd ever.

Biden getting 81MM and his opponent setting a record in the same election isn't possible. Go look at past elections - turnout doesn't move that quickly.

And for Biden to have turned out those numbers you'd have seen massive rallies, bumper stickers and yard signs, t-shirts and hats...the same thing you saw when Obama got 69MM votes. Obama shit was everywhere. NO ONE was excited for Biden except the 15-20% hardcore liberal base that would vote for a houseplant with a D by their name. Excitement and energy turns out the vote.

The election was 100% fvcky.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Damn, those mean tweets can really hurt some peoples feelings.

He hates Trump, but thinks he's a moderate. That's what makes me LOL.

Elon Musk is a moderate. Joe Rogan is a moderate.

At best, Theo is a moderate democrat. True moderates don't have an emotional attachment to any party or politician. Musk and Rogan sometimes compliment Trump, that's why the media labels them 'right wingers'. Both sometimes criticize Trump as well, but the fact that they don't CONSTANTLY do so is further proof to the left that they must be 'right wingers'.

Moderates can give their opinion about a party or politician, then walk on. The 'moderates' we have here can't do that with Trump. They have to make sure you understand that a LOT of people hate Trump just as much as they do.

True moderates don't care what you think about what they think. That's why they are moderates, they moderate their emotional investment in politics.

 

[fatman76]

He hates Trump, but thinks he's a moderate. That's what makes me LOL.

Elon Musk is a moderate. Joe Rogan is a moderate.

At best, Theo is a moderate democrat. True moderates don't have an emotional attachment to any party or politician. Musk and Rogan sometimes compliment Trump, that's why the media labels them 'right wingers'. Both sometimes criticize Trump as well, but the fact that they don't CONSTANTLY do so is further proof to the left that they must be 'right wingers'.

Moderates can give their opinion about a party or politician, then walk on. The 'moderates' we have here can't do that with Trump. They have to make sure you understand that a LOT of people hate Trump just as much as they do.

True moderates don't care what you think about what they think. That's why they are moderates, they moderate their emotional investment in politics.

I'm not disagreeing with you, but @GatorTheo claims he held his nose and voted for Trump in both generals.

He's not too left wing if he saw the light enough to pick the "lesser of two evils".

Ironically he's sort of debunking his own argument with his stated ideology and voting record.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

I didn’t say no one likes Trump. It’s obvious some worship him.

the more informed voter for sure. The people who watch 5-10 min of news per day believe what they hear.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

So your theory is that there are no moderates or conservatives who 'hate' Trump? The only people who 'hate' Trump are democrat voters?

That is not what I've seen in my circle. I know a number of reliable republican voters who voted Biden because they couldn't stand Trump personally.

Anyway, 2020, whatever happened, is water under the bridge. It's over.

If Trump does end up being the R candidate in 2024, it will be interesting to see how it turns out. I'm sure some of you are convinced he will roll but I'm not confident.

CORRECT. When you use "hate" there are ZERO moderates that HATE him. We ALL are bothered by his personality...however some people are just more informed than others....and those people see the amount of good he does, and hold our nose when he acts like an ass. These smarter, more informed people understand what happens to America when someone like Brandon...or ANY democrat is elected. Open Borders, inflation, gas prices, wate of tax money on entitlements for thier voting base, military weakened, wokeness advancing, racism increasing...I can go ON...and ON.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

I'm not disagreeing with you, but @GatorTheo claims he held his nose and voted for Trump in both generals.

He's not too left wing if he saw the light enough to pick the "lesser of two evils".

Ironically he's sort of debunking his own argument with his stated ideology and voting record.

He is just uninformed. You can easily read it in his posts. NICE guy...just not 100% on top of everything...and that is fine.

 

[GatorAndLFC]

I like OP's use of stache here, could have gone with stash or cache instead but decided not to. Good stuff.

 

[GatorTheo]

CORRECT. When you use "hate" there are ZERO moderates that HATE him. We ALL are bothered by his personality...however some people are just more informed than others....and those people see the amount of good he does, and hold our nose when he acts like an ass. These smarter, more informed people understand what happens to America when someone like Brandon...or ANY democrat is elected. Open Borders, inflation, gas prices, wate of tax money on entitlements for thier voting base, military weakened, wokeness advancing, racism increasing...I can go ON...and ON.

Had Trump not repeatedly acted like an ass, he would still be President. His persona is what did him in....not his policies. Him not being President is his own fault.

Yes, if you're a productive, law abiding, responsible American......democrats suck.

 

[GatorAndLFC]

CORRECT. When you use "hate" there are ZERO moderates that HATE him. We ALL are bothered by his personality...however some people are just more informed than others....and those people see the amount of good he does, and hold our nose when he acts like an ass. These smarter, more informed people understand what happens to America when someone like Brandon...or ANY democrat is elected. Open Borders, inflation, gas prices, wate of tax money on entitlements for thier voting base, military weakened, wokeness advancing, racism increasing...I can go ON...and ON.

If you had to pigeonhole me into party lines, it would probably be Libertarian party... and I hope Trump never sees office again.

 

[GatorTheo]

He is just uninformed. You can easily read it in his posts. NICE guy...just not 100% on top of everything...and that is fine.

Hey, I've graduated from a troll to uninformed!

 

[GatorTheo]

He hates Trump, but thinks he's a moderate. That's what makes me LOL.

Elon Musk is a moderate. Joe Rogan is a moderate.

At best, Theo is a moderate democrat. True moderates don't have an emotional attachment to any party or politician. Musk and Rogan sometimes compliment Trump, that's why the media labels them 'right wingers'. Both sometimes criticize Trump as well, but the fact that they don't CONSTANTLY do so is further proof to the left that they must be 'right wingers'.

Moderates can give their opinion about a party or politician, then walk on. The 'moderates' we have here can't do that with Trump. They have to make sure you understand that a LOT of people hate Trump just as much as they do.

True moderates don't care what you think about what they think. That's why they are moderates, they moderate their emotional investment in politics.

A 'moderate democrat'. Yeah, you've got me pegged perfectly.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

Had Trump not repeatedly acted like an ass, he would still be President. His persona is what did him in....not his policies. Him not being President is his own fault.

Yes, if you're a productive, law abiding, responsible American......democrats suck.

THIS IS EXACTLY why I say that you are uninformed. You really do not understand what happened. You could not be MORE wrong than you are here.

 

[demgataboys]

THIS IS EXACTLY why I say that you are uninformed. You really do not understand what happened. You could not be MORE wrong than you are here.

Lol you people remain nutty as squirrel poo and I love it.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

Hey, I've graduated from a troll to uninformed!

BTW..I like you, and I do not mean this as an insult. 95% of America has no clue. It is SO SIMPLE to see when you tie all of the pieces together. Most of America probably still believe Trump was colluding with Russia...when it REALLY was the democrats. THEY made the evidence up(Hillary's campaign) and used the FBI to carry out the facade. When you understand the FBI had Hunters lap top for NINE months before election day...and refused to let the information out...you start to get the picture. And with this last document scandal..when you understand the timeline...you KNOW there are elements in our government that put false information out for the uninformed...and it 100% works. Your...and the others biggest problem is that you BELIEVE our government. You BELIVE the news. So YES..you are uninformed.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

Lol you people remain nutty as squirrel poo and I love it.

What an informative post...but from another uninformed yo yo...what can one expect?

 

[GatorTheo]

BTW..I like you, and I do not mean this as an insult. 95% of America has no clue. It is SO SIMPLE to see when you tie all of the pieces together. Most of America probably still believe Trump was colluding with Russia...when it REALLY was the democrats. THEY made the evidence up(Hillary's campaign) and used the FBI to carry out the facade. When you understand the FBI had Hunters lap top for NINE months before election day...and refused to let the information out...you start to get the picture. And with this last document scandal..when you understand the timeline...you KNOW there are elements in our government that put false information out for the uninformed...and it 100% works. Your...and the others biggest problem is that you BELIEVE our government. You BELIVE the news. So YES..you are uninformed.

There were shenanigans. Maybe enough to turn the election. (You believe it was enough)

Trump harmed himself a with a lack of political discipline. Maybe enough to lose the election. (I believe it was enough)

And I am uninformed and you are informed. From where do you get your information? Are you like an investigator involved first hand?

 

[NavigatorII]

I like OP's use of stache here, could have gone with stash or cache instead but decided not to. Good stuff.

C'mon man. Most of us had porn stache's in the 80's. People who post from cell phones are at a disadvantage, AI and Alexa are a dumb bitches. 😂

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

I'm not disagreeing with you, but @GatorTheo claims he held his nose and voted for Trump in both generals.

He's not too left wing if he saw the light enough to pick the "lesser of two evils".

Ironically he's sort of debunking his own argument with his stated ideology and voting record.

A moderate democrat would pick Trump over Hiden all day, every day.

Trump leans to the left on social issues. Hiden is far left on most everything.

If you are center-left, Trump is closer to your preferred policies than Hiden is.

If you are a progressive, you like Hiden. Or a dummy.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

C'mon man. Most of us had porn stache's in the 80's. People who post from cell phones are at a disadvantage, AI and Alexa are a dumb bitches. 😂

I love the fact that I don't even remember who you are talking to, but I have already blocked them LOL Another idiot from Swamp Talk, I presume? Never understood why Jason thought it was a selling point to invite us to post there with those idiots AND pay for the privilege lol

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

There were shenanigans. Maybe enough to turn the election.

No real American can say this, then add 'just move on'.

Ensuring election integrity is more important than who wins one election.

I would put Joe Hiden in office in an instant in 2024 if it meant we could ensure presidential elections from now on.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

THIS IS EXACTLY why I say that you are uninformed. You really do not understand what happened. You could not be MORE wrong than you are here.

It's amazing, isn't it? Trump acting like an ass in 2016 got him 60M votes and he won, him acting like an ass got him 75M votes in 2020, and spurred out an additional 81M people to vote AGAINST him?

Dumbest shit I've ever read on this board.

 

[GatorAndLFC]

I love the fact that I don't even remember who you are talking to, but I have already blocked them LOL Another idiot from Swamp Talk, I presume? Never understood why Jason thought it was a selling point to invite us to post there with those idiots AND pay for the privilege lol

Damn I got blocked in the two times I've ventured over.... you must be a baby back.

 

[NavigatorII]

Damn I got blocked in the two times I've ventured over.... you must be a baby back.

From what we've seen here when mods kicked threads to the parking lot, there's a serious deficiency of common sense and wisdom there. A literal hive of stupidity and wokeism. We are quite content to not be subjected to the lunacy.

 

[EvilWayz]

Damn I got blocked in the two times I've ventured over.... you must be a baby back.

Does that mean he's delicious or tender?

It's a weird insult either way.

 

[GatorAndLFC]

From what we've seen here when mods kicked threads to the parking lot, there's a serious deficiency of common sense and wisdom there. A literal hive of stupidity and wokeism. We are quite content to not be subjected to the lunacy.

I don't seriously in political threads. 99.9% of the time it's not worth it as you are talking to brick walls on either side, not to mention this is a sports forum. The cpl times I have, it's similar to what I did here. From the little I've seen in this threads vs the others, not much difference besides one being shaded differently.

 

[GatorAndLFC]

Does that mean he's delicious or tender?

It's a weird insult either way.

Baby back b. Something my generation says. Was trying to keep it the PG version. I know how Jason feels about cuss words.

 

[GatorTheo]

No real American can say this, then add 'just move on'.

Ensuring election integrity is more important than who wins one election.

I would put Joe Hiden in office in an instant in 2024 if it meant we could ensure presidential elections from now on.

What should I do to make elections more secure and credible?

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

What should I do to make elections more secure and credible?

The fact that you ask that question tells me you don't care.

 

[GatorTheo]

The fact that you ask that question tells me you don't care.

If you knew the answer, seems like you would want to spread it around.

 

[NavigatorII]

I don't seriously in political threads. 99.9% of the time it's not worth it as you are talking to brick walls on either side, not to mention this is a sports forum. The cpl times I have, it's similar to what I did here. From the little I've seen in this threads vs the others, not much difference besides one being shaded differently.

Weren't you just throwing shade on Ghost's spelling a few lines back? 😂 But seriously.........the Parking Lot is not a sports forum. We get quite a chuckle when people venture here, knowingly or unaware of that important fact. This is a collection of "mostly" sane people from different collegiate allegiances gather here for discussions far more relevant than sports entertainment. The amount of stupidity of grown ass people fretting over recruitment of adolescent dum dums is astounding. 😂

 

[GatorAndLFC]

Weren't you just throwing shade on Ghost's spelling a few lines back? 😂 But seriously.........the Parking Lot is not a sports forum. We get quite a chuckle when people venture here, knowingly or unaware of that important fact. This is a collection of "mostly" sane people from different collegiate allegiances gather here for discussions far more relevant than sports entertainment. The amount of stupidity of grown ass people fretting over recruitment of adolescent dum dums is astounding. 😂

Post. Got me. Didn't proofread my post. Also it was OP's and it was in jest. So Parking Lot is similar to tMB, got it. I'm a coach, I don't fret over recruiting, I'll trust Billy will get it done until he doesn't.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

If you knew the answer, seems like you would want to spread it around.

Whenever the topic of ensuring election integrity comes up you seem to always throw your hands up and act like you can't do anything about it, so why should you care?

You can't do anything about Trump being an asshole, but you sure do seem to care about that.

 

[BCSpell]

Baby back b. Something my generation says. Was trying to keep it the PG version. I know how Jason feels about cuss words.

Just made me think of Chilis:

https://adland.tv/commercials/chilis-baby-back-rib-song-1998-015-usa

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

From what we've seen here when mods kicked threads to the parking lot, there's a serious deficiency of common sense and wisdom there. A literal hive of stupidity and wokeism. We are quite content to not be subjected to the lunacy.

Swamp Talk has never sent us their best or brightest. At least I hope they haven't.

 

[GatorAndLFC]

Swamp Talk has never sent us their best or brightest. At least I hope they haven't.

Went back to find it lol. He blocked me for calling him soft because he blocked someone else. Literally no other interaction btw us.

 

[greyghost14]

I believe that's already happened.

Elon Musk is a billionaire, he can't just have an accident, be dissappeared or be suicided.

Those others could be. Or be committed to a mental institution or set up for a crime that discredits them.

Everybody learned from Watergate.

I'm just spitballing though, this is way above my paygrade. I'm here to be snarky to strangers and post cat memes.

 

[greyghost14]

Swamp Talk has never sent us their best or brightest. At least I hope they haven't.

 

[GatorTheo]

Whenever the topic of ensuring election integrity comes up you seem to always throw your hands up and act like you can't do anything about it, so why should you care?

You can't do anything about Trump being an asshole, but you sure do seem to care about that.

I admittedly don't know what can be done. The states can do mostly as they wish.

I don't think repeatedly complaining about 2020 is going to have any impact.

I only bring up Trump's assholiness to try to help you guys understand why Pedo Joe is in the Oval Office.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

There were shenanigans. Maybe enough to turn the election.

I only bring up Trump's assholiness to try to help you guys understand why Pedo Joe is in the Oval Office.

We have the dumbest trolls on the internet.

 

[BCSpell]

We have the dumbest trolls on the internet.

I won't call him a dumb troll, but I definitely do not agree that Biden received 10s of millions of votes from Repubs who thought Trump was an a$$hole. Well, maybe millions and millions of votes from dead Repubs.