But, Dementia Joe was there with the freedom riders and the I have a dream speech at Lincoln Memorial, etc.
Happy MLK Day
- Thread starter BSC911
- Start date
See? LOL This guy is literally accusing me of doing the thing he did. He gave his word for weeks that he would leave the board after election day.
He never did.
I entered into a good-faith bet with @BSC911 on the election results and said I would leave the board if Trump lost*.
I honored my word, @BSC911 welched on his.
Why would anyone waste time explaining themselves to such an immoral character?
LOL. Liar, liar, pants on fire! Show the link or everyone will know it.
I guess you don't understand what a permaban bet is. It doesn't mean take a week off and then come back to flaming the board. Heck, I was even willing to let you off easy if you asked nicely, but that's not in your character.
Nope, you will forever be known as a welcher. I actually think that's a better result.
Last edited:
Prove to you that you lied? Everyone knows that. LOL
I even gave you a couple of weeks to honor your word. You said you would be leaving after Election Day, so technically you were a liar on January 21st. But I'm a decent guy so I gave you a couple of weeks to honor your word.
You never did. I entered into a good faith bet with you that you could be trusted to keep your word. When you proved that you could not, the bet was null and void.
I really pity how important this board is to you. More important than your word, as we all saw.
With all due respect BSC, Biden is NOT a faithful Catholic. If you recall, he was the subject of numerous priests wanting to deny him the eucharist or holy communion based on his stance on abortion which is against the absolute core teachings of the Catholic Church. In addition, his stance on homosexual marriages and/or unions is incompatible with the official Church doctrine. So, while he might claim to be a Catholic, he does not believe in many of the core doctrines of the Church so he would not be classified by most as "faithful."
He is doing what many people unfortunately do...claim to be a Christian but only apply those teachings they like. I heard a guy once say, "If you disagree with Jesus on homosexuality, gay marriage, abortion, fornication, and other issues, quit calling yourself a Christian because you are not following Christ. You are making up your own god." Basically, you cannot choose which core beliefs of Christianity you agree with like you are at a buffet line...you either believe the Bible or you don't.
That being said, Biden's relationship with God, to the extent he has one and I pray he does, is between him and God. I am not about to pass judgment on him regarding that. However, Jesus said that a person's true self will be born out by their actions (fruit) and we know His followers by their actions. Biden shows actions which are inconsistent with Christian/Catholic beliefs which does make on wonder...
Wow. A lot to digest which I will respond to later.
Quick question. What did Jesus say about homosexuality?
Quote scripture.
GhostofBRAINLESS👻 , since you and the BS-C911 💩 are twin brothers, yawl shouldn't be at each others throats so much. Just go ahead and kiss and make-out.
One brags that he's the LIKE King. (while calling me the attention Ho)
The other brags he's the TOTAL THREAD PAGES King.
(you're both shameless liars)
While both are actually the undisputed A-hole Troll Kings....
I've long been the instant Gator, while you're still just a useless Rat PoS....
Translation: Let me leave and hope you forget the whole thing cause I can't speak intelligently on this topic.
And just to help my cause, let me throw out an irrelevant troll attempt about the Bible. Hopefully you'll get sidetracked and respond to that, and I can respond to your response and bypass your original reply, which confused the hell out of me.
What is it Sunny said? Our slowest are easier to read than a comic book.
Jesus is condemning anyone that is not abiding by Mosaic Law (which is still in place) in fact, he is quite clear on sexual sin and sex outside of marriage (marriage is to be a union between a man/woman only). The great news about the Church built by Jesus in 3 days is that all people may now be a part of it if they accept Jesus as their Lord and Saviour.
Matthew 5:32
But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, makes her the victim of adultery, and anyone who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.
Matthew 15:19
For out of the heart come evil thoughts—murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander.
The Greek word for “sexual immorality” here is porneia. It is a broad term that probably does mean something like “sexual immorality.” Scot argues that any Jew in the first century who wanted to know what sexual immorality was would automatically think and turn to Leviticus 18, the passage I referred to in an earlier post, a passage that considers a sex with certain others is not just inappropriate but an “abomination.” Included in the list is “men with men.” Jesus therefore is condemning homosexual relations.
Exactly, nothing about homosexuality per se. If anything, it falls in the same category of premarital sex. But for some reason people want to pick on gay people.
Funny you bring up divorce though. My Church agrees with Jesus, while the Protestants seem to ignore it.
I actually agree. I have had this conversation with a bunch of my friends and family. Homosexual sin is no different than heterosexual sin. They are both against God's law. They should both be equally condemned and people should repent and turn away from them. That does not impact the fact that just because other people are hypocritical then abortion and all forms of sexual sin are still wrong and against the teachings of Jesus and the Church.
So are you saying that everything that Jesus did not specifically prohibit with his actual words are not sinful and perfectly fine with him? That is an awful intellectual leap and Pandora's box.
The problem is, we have a portion of this country, mainly the left, that is either ignorant of God's teachings or intentionally lying about them, and claim homosexuality isn't a sin.
It is. The Bible is quite clear on that. People that would rather put their politics above God's word aren't making sound decisions.
The whole issue of 'homosexuality is a sin no different from heterosexual sin' is a different argument. The underlying theme here is the left attempting to reframe it's immorality as being fine. See how murdering a baby via abortion was rebranded as 'health care for the mother'. Likewise, homosexuality is rebranded as 'two people who love each other and it's none of your business'.
The left ALWAYS does this. The Christian following God's teachings is rebranded as the sinner, and the actual sinner is rebranded as the saint.
Last edited:
I agree. You cannot pick and choose which Biblical teachings you choose to believe in and follow or you are making yourself God. Homosexuality is not just a sin, it is one God called an abomination. Morality is not open to a debate unless you are debating what to base morality upon. If you are basing it on the Bible and God's law, what He says goes regardless of how you feel.
No, but I don’t presume what He thinks. Only what he said. A lot of those old Jewish laws were repealed.
Regardless, not everyone follows Jesus’ teachings so the question is moot.
Alabama still gonna Alabama.
www.al.com
Police in this tiny Alabama town suck drivers into legal ‘black hole’
Using unmarked police cars and uniforms without insignia, the town with no traffic lights collected $487 in fines and forfeitures in 2020 for every man, woman and child. Total town income more than doubled from 2018 to 2020 – from $582,000 to more than $1.2 million – as fines and forfeitures...
Ummmm.....Leviticus 18:22? Half of the translations say abomination and the other translate it detestable. I guess you can pick, lol. Unless you don't think that Leviticus is the word of God, then we have different issues in a different discussion.
https://biblehub.com/leviticus/18-22.htm - for your reference
Also, why is the question moot? The whole discussion started with you calling Biden a "faithful Catholic" which I suggested was incongruous with his actions and the official doctrine of the Catholic Church. What Jesus said matters greatly to the Catholic Church which in turn reflects on whether Biden is following all the core teachings of the Church and is a good "faithful Catholic." The discussion seems to have morphed somehow from the original line of thought, but I guess that is message boards for you...
That's what happens when you ask @BSC911 a question he either can't answer, or doesn't want to. It's a tactic of his, you will see it often.
This is why I said it's pointless to go down the 'homosexuals can sin just like heterosexuals can' road. We have broached the topic of homosexuality being a sin dozens of times on this board.
Every single time we do, every single dem here claims the Bible doesn't say that homosexuality is a sin. You're already seeing it in this thread. @BSC911 has been shown the same scripture that you are showing and ready to show him. Each time we clearly showed him how the Bible clearly said that practicing homosexuality is a sin.
Every time, he said the Bible didn't say that. So did every dem here. If you keep going down this road, what will next happen is you will start to see the dems 'debating' you on whether the Bible really says homosexuality is a sin, and they will offer up alt-left sites that 'interpret' that the Bible doesn't say what it clearly says about homosexuality.
Modern liberals put their political beliefs before Biblical teachings. Sadly, that's just reality. That's why every time this topic is broached, the dems here ignore the Bible, and go back to what the democratic party platform tells them to believe.
Because we don’t live in a Theocracy, thank God. This isn’t Alabama.
Do you want Biden to ban contraception because he’s Catholic? Not everyone is Christian, so he shouldn’t be enforcing his religious views its people. His office is obligated to enforce the constitution. In his personal life, he is free to abide by this Church’s rules. Big difference.
I may think smoking pot is wrong, but I’m against laws restricting them. The govt. shouldn’t be regulating peoples private lives IMO. To each his own.
I must be slow...when did I say we should live in a Theocracy? In fact, I was blasted in another thread by others for suggesting that our national laws should not be based on any religious basis as morality cannot be legislated and, when tried, has resulted in horrific failure and loss of life.
This whole discussion was on whether Biden was a "faithful Catholic" which I showed he is not. I never said he should be forcing his own beliefs on anybody. He is not abiding his his supposed church's rules which is why I said he was not faithful in his personal conduct to the Church.
Separation of church and state was never about government officials leaving their beliefs at the doors of the state house. It was about not establishing one religion as the official religion of the country to the exclusion of the practice of others as was done in England in the 1500s which caused the mass migration and settlement of the Americas by English settlers. Everyone has beliefs regarding right and wrong which come from somewhere. If you leave your personal views about morality at home when you go to work, you have no morality, which is perhaps why this country is in the mess we are in socially and morally.
Which rules is he not abiding by? Has hus wife had an abortion? Does he engage in adultery?
You’re being pretty vague here.
Yeah, I’m not a big fan of Leviticus. It was written by some angry old dude, and not consistent with Jesus’ teachings.
So you pick and choose which parts of the Bible to follow, based on your politics?
IOW, your party platform has the final say in your life, not the Bible?
When they say the quiet part out loud...
He supports abortion and gay marriage. He and his administration are actively promoting both of them which is completely against the Catholic faith.
Are you saying that if you advocate for murder, tell people to murder, say murder is okay then you are not actually pro-murder just because you yourself have no murdered someone?
Man, I am really trying to have a respectful conversation here. I have been anything but vague. I said that he was not a faithful Catholic because he actively supports and promotes positions which the Catholic church has said are wrong and have actually fought to deny Biden the Eucharist which would put his soul in mortal and eternal danger if he died not in a state of grace. That is a pretty big rebuke from the church.
I suspect he himself has not had an abortion and using your logic, since he is not his wife, whether she had one is irrelevant. As for adultery, that was never a basis of me questioning your assertion that he was a faithful Catholic.
I keep trying to stay on the original subject and it seems you keep trying to morph the conversation into a different issue. Maybe I am wrong, but I have cross-examined far too many people in my life to get thrown off an issue that easily, lol.
Simple question: if someone rejects and actively promotes actions and choices which go against the teachings of a religious organization, would you call them "faithful" to that particular religious organization? - And don't try to say that the Catholic church's teachings are different than Jesus because that was not your original assertion.
So you think that Jesus changed or did away with the Jewish law? Then he must have been stuttering or lost his mind when he said:
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished." Matthew 5 : 17-20
Last time I checked, heaven and earth have yet to pass away.
I am not busting your chops, I am just trying to point out that you cannot claim that you admire, like, trust, or follow Jesus and his teachings (assuming you do) without also knowing and understanding his full teaching and how he relates to the old testament. If you think you can throw out one of the Torah because you don't like it and think it was written by an old angry dude (Moses inspired directly by God) then you have to basically throw out the entire old and new testament because they were all written by people, not Jesus directly.
