Gators to Hire Ron Roberts as LB Coach, Co-Defensive Coordinator ?
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Insta,
We can't count sacks, passing yds, or TDs from the O&B Games
BUT
49 sacks prorated over 36 total Wisconsin games = 1.361 sacks/gm
to go with all his other lofty career stats.
On a serious note -
Hoping Tebow Time is right & Gators have a good Run Game, a Good Defense, & Mertz shines this year & generates the stats that TT & all the rest of us are looking for !
Would make for a much better season !
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Is that a good or bad number? Sounds about average maybe.
Fever,
Agree that 1.361 sacks/gm don't sound too bad; don't know where Insta got his figures; looked to see what the sack figures for Kyle Trask were, but couldn't find any.
I found the team numbers and 2.1 sacks game was what teams in the middle of FBS had. Teams that had good running QBs had the fewest usually. We averaged 1.5 last year I think it said. Wisconsin was at two a game in 2022 I think but around 1.5 in 2021.
What do you see as the biggest area of improvement that needs to be made between now and fall camp.
NM:
1. Florida needs to have better QB play than what I saw in spring if they are going to be successful in 2023.
2.Florida really needs to find some production from their TE unit. Napier loves having two tight ends on the field at the same time, which doesnāt bode well for a team that lacks high quality tight ends.
or maybe just some healthy ones
3. Gators must add a veteran safety this summer. That room is dangerously thin and lacks experience.
If we continue to get sup-par QB play, will we see a bunch of wildcat? Will we see more of both Ettiene and Johnson on the field at the same time?
NM: I have, and probably always will be against the idea of running wildcat. In my opinion, it completely takes away the threat of throwing the football, allowing everyone on the defense to know what you are doing. It can work in some short yardage situations, especially with a running back like Montrell Johnson or Trevor Etienne, but I really hope it doesnāt come to that.
Iām not sure if we will see Etienne and Johnson on the field at the same time. It seems to me like the staff has placed an emphasis on throwing to the RBs more, which I hope we see plenty of in 2023.
Actually agree with not using the wildcat formation
BUT
Could always put a mobile QB (like Max Brown) in the game for a change of pace !
LOL
Do you think the format and performance at the Orange and Blue game were indicative of our teams abilities or more all about Coach Napier caring less about the publicās perception of a scrimmage during which there were specific things he wished to see?
NM: I think itās a little bit of both. Thereās a likely chance that Floridaās offense has gotten worse while the defense has significantly improved, but not to the extent we saw in the spring game. Coach Napier doesnāt (care) about the publicās perception of the scrimmage either.
https://www.gatorcountry.com/feature/post-spring-florida-football-mailbag-part-two/
NM:
1. Florida needs to have better QB play than what I saw in spring if they are going to be successful in 2023.
2.Florida really needs to find some production from their TE unit. Napier loves having two tight ends on the field at the same time, which doesnāt bode well for a team that lacks high quality tight ends.
or maybe just some healthy ones
3. Gators must add a veteran safety this summer. That room is dangerously thin and lacks experience.
If we continue to get sup-par QB play, will we see a bunch of wildcat? Will we see more of both Ettiene and Johnson on the field at the same time?
NM: I have, and probably always will be against the idea of running wildcat. In my opinion, it completely takes away the threat of throwing the football, allowing everyone on the defense to know what you are doing. It can work in some short yardage situations, especially with a running back like Montrell Johnson or Trevor Etienne, but I really hope it doesnāt come to that.
Iām not sure if we will see Etienne and Johnson on the field at the same time. It seems to me like the staff has placed an emphasis on throwing to the RBs more, which I hope we see plenty of in 2023.
Actually agree with not using the wildcat formation
BUT
Could always put a mobile QB (like Max Brown) in the game for a change of pace !
LOL
Do you think the format and performance at the Orange and Blue game were indicative of our teams abilities or more all about Coach Napier caring less about the publicās perception of a scrimmage during which there were specific things he wished to see?
NM: I think itās a little bit of both. Thereās a likely chance that Floridaās offense has gotten worse while the defense has significantly improved, but not to the extent we saw in the spring game. Coach Napier doesnāt (care) about the publicās perception of the scrimmage either.
https://www.gatorcountry.com/feature/post-spring-florida-football-mailbag-part-two/
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Gators to get this 4-star west coast QB on campus for visit
4* QB Akili Smith Jr. out of Vista Murrieta (California) in the 2025 recruiting cycle. The 6-foot-5-inch, 200-pound signal-caller plans on venturing outside his region to make a stop in the Swamp this coming weekend, according to 247Sports.
https://gatorswire.usatoday.com/2023/04/18/florida-football-recruiting-akili-smith-jr-visit-date/
Five more potential QB transfer portal targets
- Grayson McCall, again
- Brock Vandagriff
- Harrison Bailey
- Ethan Vasko
- Kaden Cobb
Auburn wouldn't take him in; so I don't think UF will academically accept McCall; but could be wrong
UGA QB Derby Heating UP
No announcement from Kirby; likely to resume QB "competition" in fall camp just to try to keep any of them from transferring.
https://www.si.com/college/georgia/news/smart-updates-georgias-qb-competition-heading-into-g-day
UGA's Vandagriff, not in portal
BUT
Vandagriff, a HS 5* FWIW, sat behind Stetson Bennett for 2 years; if he can't beat out redshirt junior Carson Beck and sophomore Gunner Stockton he may move on.
Time to fly or die !
Time running out for RS JR Beck.
Coming in with nothing but fall practice - You don't know if he is as good as advertised;
So Problem - if you sign Vandagriff - a RS Soph - what does that do to your two prized HS commits ?
Don't know anything about the others;
both article seem to be mostly click bait (read 2nd one below as well)
but as Insta says, its talking season.
https://hailfloridahail.com/2023/04/18/florida-football-five-potential-qb-transfer-portal-targets/
More Clicks for Portal QBs
https://hailfloridahail.com/2023/04/18/florida-football-top-rated-qbs-available-transfer-portal/
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I have no idea what's going to happen. I just don't think ANY QB on our rister right now is good enough to take us to the level we need to be.
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ESPN has us at #18 in their power index right now but we have 5 opponents that are higher than us. GA, LSU, TN, FSU and Utah. Something tells me their computer isnt adjusting for our QB situation if it thinks we are #18 right now.
It is going to have to be Simmons or Lagway that have the best chance to get us where we want to be. Both are legit IMO.
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Fever,
Looking at the top of this WAY TOO EARLY piece of stupidity ESPN has posted, Didn't we see this movie last season in the CFP ?
Ryan Day & The OSU Buckeyes - the baddest team in CFB; rated #1 - yadda, yadda - but they had to play an SEC team - the Dawgs & actually win it on the field -
Oops
27-21 DAWGS
tOSU came up short - again
Not sure if that means he's coming back to UF or going somewhere else. One thing I read speculates that he's going to rehab some nagging injuries, not play in the fall and just prepare for the NFL combine and 2024 draft.
Per Mike Farrell Sports
https://mikefarrellsports.com/fact-...ers-georgias-starting-quarterback-sam-hartman
Doubt that Kirby announces a winner in UGA's QB Derby before midway point in fall practice.
Coach Speak - "Too close to call."
Coaches these days have to play this role. They need to keep QB competitions going as long as possible to prevent players from jumping into the transfer portal,
Who knows if Vandagriff jumps or stays.
https://mikefarrellsports.com/fact-...ers-georgias-starting-quarterback-sam-hartman
. Carson Beck has the clear edge to be UGAās starting QB.
Farrellās take: FACT
I thought Brock Vandagriff would be better. But he continues to press a bit and threw a bad interception in the spring game, while Beck continues to play mistake-free football, going 13 for 18 for 211 yards. Beck has come a long, long way from being vastly overrated out of high school, while it seems Vandagriff might not live up to the 5-star hype.Doubt that Kirby announces a winner in UGA's QB Derby before midway point in fall practice.
Coach Speak - "Too close to call."
Coaches these days have to play this role. They need to keep QB competitions going as long as possible to prevent players from jumping into the transfer portal,
Who knows if Vandagriff jumps or stays.
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Aaron Murray discusses possibility of Brock Vandagriff entering transfer portal
As the Georgia quarterback competition forges forward, there has been a string of rumors that Brock Vandagriff could enter the transfer portal. Now, former Bulldogs quarterback Aaron Murray joined The Hard Count with J.D. PicKell where he spoke about that possibility.As Murray explained, Vandagriff is trying to balance emotions as he makes this decision, both wanting to be at Georgia but also to get the chance to start.
Not sure this would be a good pickup for us; many QBs are hyped but fail to deliver.
Huge potential to really screw up our future QB situation.
Vandagriff from Athens; may be allergic to Orange & Blue.
LOL
Commits are meaningless; NLI not much better
https://www.on3.com/college/georgia...of-brock-vandagriff-entering-transfer-portal/
We should only take a proven QB to transition from 2024 to 2025 unless a proven one is out there for 2023.
Wonāt be coming back to UF. Not because of the coaching staff or something they did. Just best for White to move on. Wish him the best.
Fever,
The other UF OL who transferred to USCw - wasn't he getting married to someone out there in Cal - a coaches' daughter or something ?
He was about to have instant family if I remember correctly.
Ethan didn't seem to have any strong reason to go to the West Coast & leave his family behind.
I never understood why he transferred in the first place - NIL$$$ ?
Fever,
agree & Vandagriff not a proven QB;
Mertz - a proven QB - proven to be mediocre ?
Georgia QB Brock Vandagriff unsure of future in Athens: 'Iām not sure. I guess thereās some praying to do'
https://ugawire.usatoday.com/2023/0...guess-theres-some-praying-to-do-uga-bulldogs/
Saw that, heard he wasn't going back to UF and UM declined him and said no way. What's going on with him?
2022 - 57.3% 2,136 Yds, 7.5 Ave, 19 TD's, 10 Ints, 23 Sacks, QBR 52.9
All 4 Wis seasons are there so you can do your own totals, but career Sacks = 49
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According to the Wis schedule per ESPN, the ONLY ranked team they played was #3 tOSU - lost 21 - 52.
Their other losses were to unranked teams - WashSt - ILL - MichSt - Iowa - Minn.
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FYI -- 2023 Spring Football Roster QB's:
Graham Mertz 6-3 214 - Wis
Jack Miller III 6-3 214 rsSo - tOSU
Max Brown 6-2 209 rsFr - Tulsa, OK
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Micah Leon 6-5 211 Grad-Sr - U-Conn, NCSt - WO
Parker Leise 6-2 215 Fr - IMG Academy - WO
Last years QB WO's are all gonzo....
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He might just pursue baseball? No reason to transfer for football if heās a better bb prospect? Just my .02
Weird that mertz and Miller are the exact size and weight. I guess Napier has a type? Haha2022 - 57.3% 2,136 Yds, 7.5 Ave, 19 TD's, 10 Ints, 23 Sacks, QBR 52.9
All 4 Wis seasons are there so you can do your own totals, but career Sacks = 49
Graham Mertz Career Stats - NCAAF - ESPN
Complete career NCAAF stats for Florida Gators Quarterback Graham Mertz on ESPN. Includes scoring, rushing, defensive and receiving stats.www.espn.com
According to the Wis schedule per ESPN, the ONLY ranked team they played was #3 tOSU - lost 21 - 52.
Their other losses were to unranked teams - WashSt - ILL - MichSt - Iowa - Minn.
=====Wisconsin Badgers 2022 Regular Season NCAAF Schedule - ESPN
ESPN has the full 2022 Wisconsin Badgers Regular Season NCAAF schedule. Includes game times, TV listings and ticket information for all Badgers games.
FYI -- 2023 Spring Football Roster QB's:
Graham Mertz 6-3 214 - Wis
Jack Miller III 6-3 214 rsSo - tOSU
Max Brown 6-2 209 rsFr - Tulsa, OK
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Micah Leon 6-5 211 Grad-Sr - U-Conn, NCSt - WO
Parker Leise 6-2 215 Fr - IMG Academy - WO
Last years QB WO's are all gonzo....
2022 - 57.3% 2,136 Yds, 7.5 Ave, 19 TD's, 10 Ints, 23 Sacks, QBR 52.9
All 4 Wis seasons are there so you can do your own totals, but career Sacks = 49
Graham Mertz Career Stats - NCAAF - ESPN
Complete career NCAAF stats for Florida Gators Quarterback Graham Mertz on ESPN. Includes scoring, rushing, defensive and receiving stats.
According to the Wis schedule per ESPN, the ONLY ranked team they played was #3 tOSU - lost 21 - 52.
Their other losses were to unranked teams - WashSt - ILL - MichSt - Iowa - Minn.
=====Wisconsin Badgers 2022 Regular Season NCAAF Schedule - ESPN
ESPN has the full 2022 Wisconsin Badgers Regular Season NCAAF schedule. Includes game times, TV listings and ticket information for all Badgers games.
FYI -- 2023 Spring Football Roster QB's:
Graham Mertz 6-3 214 - Wis
Jack Miller III 6-3 214 rsSo - tOSU
Max Brown 6-2 209 rsFr - Tulsa, OK
-----
Micah Leon 6-5 211 Grad-Sr - U-Conn, NCSt - WO
Parker Leise 6-2 215 Fr - IMG Academy - WO
Last years QB WO's are all gonzo....
Yeah. Go ahead and look at his stats.
Actually look at them.
Game-by-game.
It's rather interesting.
For example, when they beat Northwestern handed my and he threw for 300 yards on 29 attempts and had 5 sacks and 0 interceptions.
Weird, right?
Or how he had a 135 passer rating his last year at Wisconsin and basically the same completions and attempts as the year before but instead of 10 TDs and 11 INTs, he switched it to 19-10.
He got better. He had a couple of weird games with high sack totals, but then again, they fired their coach early in the season.
He might be coachable, which I know is futile because some people don't believe Napier can possibly manage to coach anybody.
While we're looking at stats and bemoaning the loss of a "running QB" how about we go back and look at Richardsons stats this year.
Just saying.
Danny,
You, Paco, & Fevet have better eyes & ears (Sources) than I do
After AR skipped the L V Bowl to prep for the NFL Combine i read somewhere that AR had a lingering injury - knee or ankle which affected his running.
Brown not the athlete AR is but his mobility / running skills better than Mertz or Miller.
Since running is our base offense; makes since to occasionally use a running QB.
I mean, yeah, sure..but how do they compare to Brown's high school stats?
Just believe there is a lot of personal issues, etc. Definitely in UFs best interest and Ethanās best interest to have gone their separate ways like they did.
No no no. No UGaly transfers!
Nothing good has ever come out of Athens (except for some decent bands).
I canāt imagine he would come in and immediately take the starting role here too. He might, but Iām not sure heās head and shoulders above what we have now.
San Diego State transfer OL sets May official visit date with Florida
Floridaās looking to add some more pieces to its offensive line and former San Diego State lineman Josh Simmons might be a name to keep an eye on.
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I wish you didn't get me diving into these numbers as it has me even more nervous about the situation.
I decided to look at him and Richardson in 2022 dropping the 3 joke games - Eastern Washington for us and Illinois State and New Mexico State for them to see how the 2 produced against competition that at least had a pulse.
Graham had a 54.1% completion rate in those games which was only 1.1 % better than Richardson's 53% and both of them only had 4 games where they threw over 200 yards.
Richardson averaged 210 yards passing in those games while Mertz only averaged 167 yards passing in those games.
They had similar TD to interception ratios in those games - 15 TD/8 Int. for Richardson and 15 TD/9 Int. for Mertz.
The big kicker though is when you adjust for Richardson's rushing yards which gives him a total of 265 yards a game in those games while Mertz gains nothing from rushing yards in those games. So there is almost a 100 yard per game difference in production.
I think it may be wishful thinking that we can have a 425+ yard a game offense with Mertz back there based on his history (even with a real good running game giving you 150 -160 yards a game average against decent opponents). That would take Mertz going from 167 yards in those games to a 260+ yards average a game.
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Mertz was a HS 5-star, and with his backup Miller was a 4-star, so they are good to go.
They're very solid at QB now, as the O&B game showed, so just go wid whachagot.... š
And for depth, they have a Grad-Sr with loads of experience, and a solid Fr from IMG, so they don't need anymore xfer QB's.....
Fever,
Agree
pointed that out to Tebow Time after he posted his wish list for Mertz several times.
One of the reason I strongly endorse using Brown on a regular basis (reduced snaps compared to Mertz) is our need to have an effective running game.
Urban talked about the need to make the defense account for the QB in the running game - force a defender to stay home even when he drops back to pass because they never know when he might see a crease in the defense & tuck it away & run
the ball.
Doesn't mean he has to be like Tim Tebow & average 15 carries / game; he just has to be involved in plays in such a way that he COULD run the ball if they fail to account for him.
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First off Jeff, HS stats don't mean a single thing, they are totally irrelevant.
(wait, where do the recruit star rankings come from, osmosis???)
Football Osmosis -- The spontaneous net movement or diffusion of information molecules through a selectively-permeable membrane from a region of high football genius.... š
QB-dt Max Brown Running the ball:
HS Senior - R - 173 for 1,343 yds, 7.8 ypc, 20 TD's, ZERO fumbles.
And while taking a beating while running the ball that much, how did that negatively affect his passing?
P - 167 of 235, 71.1% for 2,750 yds, 16.5 yd/comp, 41 TD's, 4 Ints, QBR 142.6
4,000+ combined yards with 61 TD's to 4 TO's on 408 plays, less than 1 TO per 100 plays.
But just remember, HS stats don't matter for Max, they just matter for the other guys like a 5-star Mertz, 4-star Miller, and 5-star Lagway....
And College stats don't matter either, just the unqualified opinions of all of us biased others....
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Entitled Fan's Given:
When you agree wid da co-ach, then he's an unquestionable genius.
When you don't agree, then he's an unqualified idiot....
Coaches get hired and paid for their recruiting, not for the player development.
But in our coaches situation, he can really coach up the QB's, like he did AR-15 and Miller...
And just like he's done with Max since he recruited him,,, errr flipped him to UF....
Isn't 'TALKING SEASON' a complete joy to be involved with? š
(wait, where do the recruit star rankings come from, osmosis???)
Football Osmosis -- The spontaneous net movement or diffusion of information molecules through a selectively-permeable membrane from a region of high football genius.... š
QB-dt Max Brown Running the ball:
HS Senior - R - 173 for 1,343 yds, 7.8 ypc, 20 TD's, ZERO fumbles.
And while taking a beating while running the ball that much, how did that negatively affect his passing?
P - 167 of 235, 71.1% for 2,750 yds, 16.5 yd/comp, 41 TD's, 4 Ints, QBR 142.6
4,000+ combined yards with 61 TD's to 4 TO's on 408 plays, less than 1 TO per 100 plays.
But just remember, HS stats don't matter for Max, they just matter for the other guys like a 5-star Mertz, 4-star Miller, and 5-star Lagway....
And College stats don't matter either, just the unqualified opinions of all of us biased others....
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Entitled Fan's Given:
When you agree wid da co-ach, then he's an unquestionable genius.
When you don't agree, then he's an unqualified idiot....
Coaches get hired and paid for their recruiting, not for the player development.
But in our coaches situation, he can really coach up the QB's, like he did AR-15 and Miller...
And just like he's done with Max since he recruited him,,, errr flipped him to UF....
Isn't 'TALKING SEASON' a complete joy to be involved with? š
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