Gators to Hire Ron Roberts as LB Coach, Co-Defensive Coordinator ?

[Jeff from Jax]

The problem is if you wait until after Spring practice you will mostly only have the QBs that were beat out by other QBs. If we get a QB I really hope it's one who has already showed his play on the field. I guess a few decent veterans could get beat out by younger QBs though.

Fever,

I see your point !

Guess that I am disinclined to keep wasting schollys on Transfer QBs.

Everyone on this board knows that Gators have a miserable (non existent ?) history with Transfer QBs.

We will know if Miller can / will break this sad sequence of events in a few hours.

If he can't, then we can look in the portal, but I doubt we find much - Joe Burrows happen once in a lifetime.

Other MAJOR problem (I agree with Insta on this) is lack of a dedicated QB coach.

As the results are starting to show - Billy's time better spent on recruiting & managing the team.

Maybe Billy should enroll our QBs in the S & S (Steve Spurrier & Shane Matthews) QB Academy over the summer.

 

[instaGATOR]

Is this a joke? Zook didn’t coach QBs.

And apparently, neither can Napier....

 

[instaGATOR]

Miller now a 3rd year player & tOSU didn't recruit him because he lacked talent in HS.

I, like Fever & others, want to see how Miller plays against Oregon State in the L V Bowl.
AND
I think Napier should give him every chance in spring practice to show his abilities before jumping on Another Transfer QB - who may not be any better & who won't know Napier's offense.

If Miller can protect the ball - reduce turnovers - we will be OK on offense & can let Rashada develop - not wild about having a true Fresh as QB1.

Jeff, you and a few others continue to leave TT's Maxine out of the QB equation.

Is that on purpose, or just an acknowledgement that Napier has totally failed to coach up Brown already?

And if that's the case, then Billy had better stop bothering to recruit HS QB's, and start bringing in a couple of Sr xfer QB's every year, that someone else has coached up for him..... 🙄

 

[PacoGator19]

And apparently, neither can Napier....

It’s been just 1 year. Geez.

 

[PacoGator19]

Cotton Bowl

 

[instaGATOR]

It’s been just 1 year. Geez.

Shouldn't a new Gator HC/QB's come in already KNOWING QB coaching??? WTF?

 

[PacoGator19]

Shouldn't a new Gator HC/QB's come in already KNOWING QB coaching??? WTF?

And so you only give a coach 1 year to develop a QB?

 

[Jeff from Jax]

Jeff, you and a few others continue to leave TT's Maxine out of the QB equation.

Is that on purpose, or just an acknowledgement that Napier has totally failed to coach up Brown already? 🙄

Insta,

Reserving judgement until we see how the L V Bowl plays out.

Like you, Insta, I liked Max Brown's HS stats, especially his running ability.

Not sure I agree with all these comments, but every talking head & CFB expert at large, seems to feel that -

we will lose this bowl game

we must depend upon our OL & running game for any offense

Miller is likely done as QB1 after this game

I would think that Napier giving Max a shot to use his legs (& hopefully his arm) would make a great deal of sense.

Even though some players truly are "Gamers", If Napier fails to give Max Brown even a series in this game, then I would conclude that Napier has already made his decision about Max & he should probably move on.

 

[instaGATOR]

Jeff - Should MB Run or Pass in V-Bowl?

Brown - HS Sr
Passing - 71%, 16.5 Yds/Comp, 41 TD's, 4 Ints. QBR 142.6
Rushing - 1,343 yds, 7.8 YPC, 20 TD's, ZERO LPF's

He can do either at a 5-star level imo....

 

[Gator Fever]

Jeff - Should MB Run or Pass in V-Bowl?

Brown - HS Sr
Passing - 71%, 16.5 Yds/Comp, 41 TD's, 4 Ints. QBR 142.6
Rushing - 1,343 yds, 7.8 YPC, 20 TD's, ZERO LPF's

He can do either at a 5-star level imo....

We won't know that until he starts here or somewhere else. On tape he got away with stuff you can't in big time college football. It's why it's hard to rate QBs who play that way in that level of competition

 

[Jeff from Jax]

Jeff - Should MB Run or Pass in V-Bowl?

Brown - HS Sr
Passing - 71%, 16.5 Yds/Comp, 41 TD's, 4 Ints. QBR 142.6
Rushing - 1,343 yds, 7.8 YPC, 20 TD's, ZERO LPF's

He can do either at a 5-star level imo....

Insta,

My dad was a mediocre golfer, but one of his favorite saying was - "Use every club in your bag."

Since this bowl is basically a tryout for next year, I would hope Napier would do the same - & give all 3 QBs a fair chance to run the offense & show what they can do - both running & whatever passing we can generate.

 

[TEBOW TIME]

Florida a possible landing spot for Coastal Carolina transfer QB

Florida's looking to add a quarterback through the transfer portal and Grayson McCall looks like a perfect fit.

www.yahoo.com

 

[Jeff from Jax]

Florida a possible landing spot for Coastal Carolina transfer QB

Florida's looking to add a quarterback through the transfer portal and Grayson McCall looks like a perfect fit.

www.yahoo.com

Tebow,

Though not totally Miller's fault, the way our offense is dying in this game (SHUT OUT in 1st Half for the first time in quite a while) puts Napier in a quandary - stick with Miller or go Portal shopping.

Any QB worth having will have multiple suitors & they will be looking for serious NIL$$$.

 

[fsu939913]

I’m leery of Leary! Solid QB but injury concerns and not very mobile. Also had a somewhat disappointing season this past year.

He does get injured (we injured him this yr). I wouldn't put too much on this yr, NC states o line and receivers weren't that good, made him look much worse

 

[Gator Fever]

Miller doesn't have it. Unless a young guy steps up as a freshman we are screwed next season unless we get a good one in the portal.

 

[NavigatorII]

Insta,

My dad was a mediocre golfer, but one of his favorite saying was - "Use every club in your bag."

Since this bowl is basically a tryout for next year, I would hope Napier would do the same - & give all 3 QBs a fair chance to run the offense & show what they can do - both running & whatever passing we can generate.

Miller's been driving the ball out of bounds all day, time to let the caddy take a shot at it. This is embarrassing.

 

[NavigatorII]

Napier still has him in there. Did they not let ANYONE else learn the offense? There is nothing to gain from keeping him in there, he's already proven incompetence. Let the scrubs have a shot. Nothing to lose, this game is over. Learn from it.

 

[Gator Fever]

Napier still has him in there. Did they not let ANYONE else learn the offense? There is nothing to gain from keeping him in there, he's already proven incompetence. Let the scrubs have a shot. Nothing to lose, this game is over. Learn from it.

Yep unless he wants the boosters to fully realize we have to get a QB.

 

[Gator Fever]

The other big question is if this DC is in over his head like a lot of people think.

 

[NavigatorII]

The other big question is if this DC is in over his head like a lot of people think.

Hard to say at this point. Lots of Grantham's ruined DBs and ingrained poor coaching habits. The front 7 wasn't horrible this year until they ran out of warm bodies. The UF secondary has sucked since Muschamp left.

 

[Dannygator1989]

I love the bitching about the defensive schemes.

We were bad on the edges before the transfers, it's not like we were going to get better.

What would you like the call to be? Because someone in the game thread was screaming that we should put 8 in the box to stop the run...and then we put 9 in and they still ran through us on the edge. So....

Nothing is quite so binary. Also not a video game.

 

[Jeff from Jax]

The other big question is if this DC is in over his head like a lot of people think.

Fever,

The Peter Principle ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_principle

 

[Irishphan26]

Jeff, some things to remember and/or think about:

1. Peyton never beat a Wuerffel QB'ed team, college or Pro.
2. Eli never won a single SEC-C
3. I don't GaS what they or any others did as Pro QB's, I don't watch or support the NFL.

Take a Manning at QB and you can expect constant family / drama-queen interference.
JMOHO, but way more trouble that it would be worth.
I'd tell Nappy to stop wasting his recruiting time/money on him and spend it better elsewhere.

Another thing is that he is going where he can and will be the starter every year he's there.
That won't happen at UF, unless you want to see every other ship QB on the Gator roster xfer out at the speed of light.
============ Moving right along....

Georgia football coach Kirby Smart expressed belief that college football is on track for problems as it relates to name, image and likeness. He raised significant concerns about the sport's national branding losing some of its luster among the masses as a result. At some point, Smart fears, fans could grow disinterested in college football due to the game losing its amateurism aspect and the growth of the sport could be stunted as a result.

Alabama head coach Nick Saban took it one step further, saying he fears there could be cheating involved if programs begin using NIL exclusively to entice recruits. (did he keep a straight face when saying that???) 😂

Georgia's Kirby Smart shares 'scary truth' about college football, NIL

...

247sports.com

=====

NIL levels the recruiting field somewhat in the iG's opinion.
Or maybe it just alters who has the best un-level playing field advantage.
Now everyone can pay the recruits, and they can do so right out in the open.
It now becomes; who has the most money to spend buying your team with.

The schools are now in a different competition, recruiting their NIL sponsors to make those payments to their recruits/players.

The schools that have always bought recruits with GoB 'money under the table' are not really all that happy with the NIL, because it reduces their $UTT advantages. Now every school can make an open $$$ bid.

The schools with the richest alum/backers will now have the same advantages that the long time accomplished GoB $UTT cheater guys have had.

The best $UTT GoB cheaters are fast losing ground, while the $$$ richest but formally mostly honest guys, are quickly gaining ground.

The iG as a fan, is becoming less and less interested in any college (semi-pro) sports.....
While becoming an ANTIFA / BLM Socialist-U is another ugly spike in this fans coffin....
=====

Not to worry though, because I see this as maybe a very positive thing for America. Citizens that are less distracted by 'meaningless to society' sports, might actually regrow their interest in their civic responsibilities as Sovereign Citizens. (as unlikely as that is, I can still hope & dream)

Maybe FREEDOM can make a come-back over the mindless distraction entertainment....

If the time, energy, and money that is being wasted on sports was put to use in better governing our country, local-state-nation, then we wouldn't be in the chit-hole position that we are currently in. (Cheering Let's Go Brandon)

Rome's rich elite used the same public distractions with the Colosseum and the Gladiators, and it would be good to remember what that eventually did to the Romans society... (remember or repeat, you make the call) 🤓 I don't really want someone saving me a seat by the fire....

So the man that posted Tebow's PRESEASON stats to prove he was the greatest NFL qb ever, doesn't watch or support the NFL. Okay, slugger.

 

[Gator Fever]

I love the bitching about the defensive schemes.

We were bad on the edges before the transfers, it's not like we were going to get better.

What would you like the call to be? Because someone in the game thread was screaming that we should put 8 in the box to stop the run...and then we put 9 in and they still ran through us on the edge. So....

Nothing is quite so binary. Also not a video game.

I don't know much about it but this whole season on the video breakdowns we have had some bad scheming on defense in addition to undisciplined players not setting the edge etc.

 

[Dannygator1989]

I don't know much about it but this whole season on the video breakdowns we have had some bad scheming on defense in addition to undisciplined players not setting the edge etc.

You also have to scheme to your strengths and your weaknesses. So, if you're weak on the edges, you have to try and compensate for that.

Sometimes, there's nothing you can do to hide that.

Same thing on offense. If your athletic QB refuses to take the ball and run on a read, but he also is inconsistent in the passing game, what do you do? Sure, he has flashes of greatness, but you can't rely on it, so what do you do?

When your kicker is incredibly inconsistent, do you take more risks with 4th downs? When your defense is compromised, do you take more risks because you don't trust them to stop the opponent's offense?

Then the fans bitch because obviously they would've just done the opposite.

It's pretty ridiculous.

 

[ocalaman]

I don't know much about it but this whole season on the video breakdowns we have had some bad scheming on defense in addition to undisciplined players not setting the edge etc.

Considering how bad the offense played, the defense hung in there pretty well until that fake field goal. Things went downhill fast after that. Losing Torrence affected the O-line big time. They were keying our running backs and the play calling never adjusted to that and just kept running our guys into a brick wall. We need receivers who can get open as well. We are very weak on the defensive front, the safeties can't cover and the linebackers are slow. Lots of opportunities for new guys coming in, either from high school or the portal. Will be interesting to see the names and faces that are there for spring practice.

 

[Gator Fever]

You also have to scheme to your strengths and your weaknesses. So, if you're weak on the edges, you have to try and compensate for that.

Sometimes, there's nothing you can do to hide that.

Same thing on offense. If your athletic QB refuses to take the ball and run on a read, but he also is inconsistent in the passing game, what do you do? Sure, he has flashes of greatness, but you can't rely on it, so what do you do?

When your kicker is incredibly inconsistent, do you take more risks with 4th downs? When your defense is compromised, do you take more risks because you don't trust them to stop the opponent's offense?

Then the fans bitch because obviously they would've just done the opposite.

It's pretty ridiculous.

I won't crucify Napier after year 1 or for Richardson refusing to run but he controls the plays on offense and it seems every game you shake your head at some of the calls like he just ignores the yards to go and whether you have had much success running the ball.

 

[Nicktheslick]

You also have to scheme to your strengths and your weaknesses. So, if you're weak on the edges, you have to try and compensate for that.

Sometimes, there's nothing you can do to hide that.

Same thing on offense. If your athletic QB refuses to take the ball and run on a read, but he also is inconsistent in the passing game, what do you do? Sure, he has flashes of greatness, but you can't rely on it, so what do you do?

When your kicker is incredibly inconsistent, do you take more risks with 4th downs? When your defense is compromised, do you take more risks because you don't trust them to stop the opponent's offense?

Then the fans bitch because obviously they would've just done the opposite.

It's pretty ridiculous.

You speak wisely my friend.

 

[TEBOW TIME]

Leaving Las Vegas, Florida’s need for a transfer portal QB more urgent than ever

Florida's Las Vegas Bowl performance confirms the need for a transfer QB.

www.saturdaydownsouth.com

 

[Countygator1]

I love the bitching about the defensive schemes.

We were bad on the edges before the transfers, it's not like we were going to get better.

What would you like the call to be? Because someone in the game thread was screaming that we should put 8 in the box to stop the run...and then we put 9 in and they still ran through us on the edge. So....

Nothing is quite so binary. Also not a video game.

I don't know if Billy is the right man for the job, but I do know we had very little talent before all the opt outs so I find it comical that people are complaining now.

 

[instaGATOR]

The basket full of weak excuses, along with the blame shifting to previous coaches and the dissing on the current roster's talent level just cracks me freakin' up.... 😂

We won't know that until he starts here or somewhere else. On tape he got away with stuff you can't in big time college football. It's why it's hard to rate QBs who play that way in that level of competition

I've asked you before on this. Tell me exactly what's wrong with this QB's play, or the competition level that he's playing against, because I still won't accept your weak generalizations on his skill or the competition level. And anyone here is welcome to help out the feveredbrains on his diagnosis....

Max Brown on Hudl

Watch Max Brown's videos and highlights on Hudl. More info: Lincoln Christian High School - Lincoln Varsity Football / QB / Class of 2022 / Tulsa, OK

www.hudl.com

 

[Dannygator1989]

The basket full of weak excuses, along with the blame shifting to previous coaches and the dissing on the current roster's talent level just cracks me freakin' up.... 😂



I've asked you before on this. Tell me exactly what's wrong with this QB's play, or the competition level that he's playing against, because I still won't accept your weak generalizations on his skill or the competition level. And anyone here is welcome to help out the feveredbrains on his diagnosis....

Max Brown on Hudl

Watch Max Brown's videos and highlights on Hudl. More info: Lincoln Christian High School - Lincoln Varsity Football / QB / Class of 2022 / Tulsa, OK

www.hudl.com

Regardless of everything else, because you won't bring up the weak competition, you love to talk about how "good" he is and bemoan the coaching staff saying he's a raw prospect, while at the same time you bring up he only played for 2 years in high school.

That's why you're a snake.

Imagine a raw talent needing time. Effing wild.

 

[instaGATOR]

And feel free to compare and contrast these highlights of QB talent and their competition levels.


22-23 HS Sr - 14 Games - Jaden Rashada *****
Passing - 62.4% 15.1 Yd/Comp, 32 TD's, 13 Ints, QBR 107.3
Rushing - 419 Yds, 6.2 YPC, 7 TD's, 1 LPF
Combined - 39 TD's, 14 turnovers

21-22 HS Sr - 14 Games - Max Brown ***
Passing - 71%, 16.5 Yds/Comp, 41 TD's, 4 Ints. QBR 142.6
Rushing - 1,343 yds, 7.8 YPC, 20 TD's, ZERO LPF's
Combined - 61 TD's, 4 turnovers

 

[Jeff from Jax]

Insta,

Liked much of what you had to say - because I think it is true.

Georgia football coach Kirby Smart expressed belief that college football is on track for problems as it relates to name, image and likeness. He raised significant concerns about the sport's national branding losing some of its luster among the masses as a result. At some point, Smart fears, fans could grow disinterested in college football due to the game losing its amateurism aspect and the growth of the sport could be stunted as a result.

Alabama head coach Nick Saban took it one step further, saying he fears there could be cheating involved if programs begin using NIL exclusively to entice recruits. (did he keep a straight face when saying that???) 😂

The painful thing about fans growing disinterested in college football is its impact on the Salaries, Benefits, & Perks for College Head Coaches.

They would obviously be diminished - they would be paid less - the two free cars would go away, the vacation junkets with boosters would stop, etc.

NIL levels the recruiting field somewhat in the iG's opinion.
Or maybe it just alters who has the best un-level playing field advantage.
Now everyone can pay the recruits, and they can do so right out in the open.
It now becomes; who has the most money to spend buying your team with.

The schools are now in a different competition, recruiting their NIL sponsors to make those payments to their recruits/players.

The schools that have always bought recruits with GoB 'money under the table' are not really all that happy with the NIL, because it reduces their $UTT advantages. Now every school can make an open $$$ bid.

SPOT ON INSTA !

Bama, UGA, Clemson, tOSU, etc - The schools who created enormous resources to cheat & NOT GET CAUGHT - McDonald's bags & an Army of Bag Men, etc, are losing their competitive advantage in recruiting.

Not being able to stack 5* talent on top of talent means they will win fewer games & Get Paid Less !

Cheating made them what they are !

Without it; they are no better than many other coaches !

The sky is falling - For Them !

 

[Gator Fever]

The basket full of weak excuses, along with the blame shifting to previous coaches and the dissing on the current roster's talent level just cracks me freakin' up.... 😂



I've asked you before on this. Tell me exactly what's wrong with this QB's play, or the competition level that he's playing against, because I still won't accept your weak generalizations on his skill or the competition level. And anyone here is welcome to help out the feveredbrains on his diagnosis....

Max Brown on Hudl

Watch Max Brown's videos and highlights on Hudl. More info: Lincoln Christian High School - Lincoln Varsity Football / QB / Class of 2022 / Tulsa, OK

www.hudl.com

Explain to me why we were fighting Central Michigan over his services then and top programs weren't chasing him?

He could end up good but his numbers mean squat playing where he played and the video showed he wasn't doing what you had to do to succeed in big college ball usually. Even Trask as a backup to King showed the touch in his videos. You are just fixated on Brown for some reason. If he turns out like you hope he should beat out Rashada this coming season to either start or be the backup to a more senior transfer.

 

[Gator Fever]

Insta,

Liked much of what you had to say - because I think it is true.

Georgia football coach Kirby Smart expressed belief that college football is on track for problems as it relates to name, image and likeness. He raised significant concerns about the sport's national branding losing some of its luster among the masses as a result. At some point, Smart fears, fans could grow disinterested in college football due to the game losing its amateurism aspect and the growth of the sport could be stunted as a result.

Alabama head coach Nick Saban took it one step further, saying he fears there could be cheating involved if programs begin using NIL exclusively to entice recruits. (did he keep a straight face when saying that???) 😂

The painful thing about fans growing disinterested in college football is its impact on the Salaries, Benefits, & Perks for College Head Coaches.

They would obviously be diminished - they would be paid less - the two free cars would go away, the vacation junkets with boosters would stop, etc.

NIL levels the recruiting field somewhat in the iG's opinion.
Or maybe it just alters who has the best un-level playing field advantage.
Now everyone can pay the recruits, and they can do so right out in the open.
It now becomes; who has the most money to spend buying your team with.

The schools are now in a different competition, recruiting their NIL sponsors to make those payments to their recruits/players.

The schools that have always bought recruits with GoB 'money under the table' are not really all that happy with the NIL, because it reduces their $UTT advantages. Now every school can make an open $$$ bid.

SPOT ON INSTA !

Bama, UGA, Clemson, tOSU, etc - The schools who created enormous resources to cheat & NOT GET CAUGHT - McDonald's bags & an Army of Bag Men, etc, are losing their competitive advantage in recruiting.

Not being able to stack 5* talent on top of talent means they will win fewer games & Get Paid Less !

Cheating made them what they are !

Without it; they are no better than many other coaches !

The sky is falling - For Them !

NIL added a few more players to the mix like Texas etc and affected the top teams depth some but so far it's those teams still dominating recruiting etc. Kirby and Saban don't like it they can lose players now like that is their main issue imo. Unfortunately even though we spend some money we are not quite in that top echelon of teams using NIL money but at least the playoffs is going to 12 teams meaning any real good SEC season 10-2 guarantees a spot.

 

[TEBOW TIME]

Explain to me why we were fighting Central Michigan over his services then and top programs weren't chasing him?

He could end up good but his numbers mean squat playing where he played and the video showed he wasn't doing what you had to do to succeed in big college ball usually. Even Trask as a backup to King showed the touch in his videos. You are just fixated on Brown for some reason. If he turns out like you hope he should beat out Rashada this coming season to either start or be the backup to a more senior transfer.

NO other school worth a sh!t wanted Maxine. Like I have said many times if Brown was so damn good with numbers then Lincoln Riley FROM Oklahoma would have been knocking down Maxine's door but that didnt happen for a reason. Brown needs to get the hell out of Florida so we dont have to hear the name crammed down our throats every other post

 

[instaGATOR]

Two abominations continue to throw at their own biased opinions, with nothing but their opinions to back them up. Detailed Technical Evaluations are never going to be in their moronic tool boxes....

And The Riley Coyote also needed xfer QB's that someone else had already coached up.
How'd he do with the 5-Star Rattler, before he bailed out on OK for the LAC-12 level of competition, before they have to play at an SEC level.

Still with the dissing Maxine??? Whatever you say Tebow Slime.... 😄

 

[Gator Fever]

NO other school worth a sh!t wanted Maxine. Like I have said many times if Brown was so damn good with numbers then Lincoln Riley FROM Oklahoma would have been knocking down Maxine's door but that didnt happen for a reason. Brown needs to get the hell out of Florida so we dont have to hear the name crammed down our throats every other post

He is a Gator so I hope he succeeds while he is here but it is funny watching Insta go off the deep end about him. And this is the guy usually telling everyone here they don't know squat and the coaches know what they are doing.

 

[instaGATOR]

He is a Gator so I hope he succeeds while he is here but it is funny watching Insta go off the deep end about him. And this is the guy usually telling everyone here they don't know squat and the coaches know what they are doing.

To subtle for you to understand that there are differences in what some coaches seem to know and do. Things and times change....

Feveredbrains is all over Miller Time (deep end), but I'm fixated on Brown. Now that's just funny....

6-7 loser overall, with 3-5 loser in the SEC. Lost to Tn, Ugly, and FSU, with a 3-30 loss to LAC-12 OreSt, so at least that's solid....