Former 5* WR Shorter to UF!
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Yet another flea who doesn't understand about the PSU situation. Or which "to" to use.
Well ok then. What's the situation? He's played two season's without making an impact. What's all the excitement about? Shorter has all the measurables but why wasn't he targeted more? Is he a team player? Is he a cancer in the locker room? The potential is there but barring the unexpected, Shorter will have to sit out the 2020 season to satisfy NCAA transfer bylaws. As GhostOfMatchesMalone likes to say looks like the gators got themselves a "quitter."
Why are you so concerned? Explain to me how he is any different than any other transfer,, such as Jamie Newman or whomever? Yes, guys coming in off the transfer portal are always a risk, but really no different than a high school recruit. Our track record with guys from the transfer portal is outstanding, though. I wouldn't bet against Dan Mullen and staff on this one.
Dawggies are getting nervous about the sudden addition of all these 5 stars to the Gators, lol. Will be sweet watching Brenton Cox light up the Dawggies this year along with the others over the next few years.
I'm not judging the kid just wondering what LizardGrad meant by the PSU situation. Shorter was injured much of his freshman year which explains his lack of production in 2018 but 2019 remains a mystery. How can a athlete with those gifts fail to produce? Honestly, I'd be happy to have him in Athens but something is amiss. Maybe a change in scenery is all he needs. Good pick up for the Gators.
Big get for us. Unless someone is Bias and knows college football they know Mullen is one heck of a coach and a great signal caller. It's the reason for all of the talent flowing into Gainesville.
WR Van Jefferson - Ole Miss backup. (did not sit out)
Trevon Grimes - Little used at tOSU. (did not sit out)
superdawg51 - Clueless troll twit - (might need to sit out...)
barring the unexpected.....Shorter has work to do regardless. That stone needs lots of polishing. Meanwhile that gator D must defend George Pickens.
We only have to defend 1 guy. FWIW Pitts had more catches than Pickens last year.
I'm sorry, but if you haven't heard about the sexual hazing allegations at PSU, you live under a rock.
Great point. Newman runs away from Wake Forest because he's going to lose his starting role but he's going to be an All-American at UGa, no worries, while Shorter, who is, at best, expected to be a backup that contributes a few catches this year while backing up Toney, Grimes, and Copeland, all experienced WR's who had productive seasons last year (except Toney, who was injured), has no chance of meeting those lofty expectations?
On that note, we have a TON of WR experience returning this year. Grimes, Copeland and Pitts are going to push for all-SEC honors, while Toney is a wild card. If he can stay healthy he is one of the most dynamic players in the country. But they think we are desperate for Shorter because we are lacking at WR. Meanwhile, they have exactly one WR with a pulse, but they don't think our entire secondary combined has a chance to stop him.
The fleas KILL ME. Hilarity!
I don't follow Penn St nevertheless, Penn State football players respond to hazing allegations, calling them straight lies just within the last few weeks.
I think Shorter suffers from prima donna syndrome. Expecting everything on a silver platter and failing to put in the necessary work to develop his talents. Shorter came into this season overweight and according to Franklin...... was “a cheeseburger away from 250." Sounds like more of a "me" player than a "team" player. Lots of potential here so I guess we'll see if the change in scenery changes his attitude.
The funny thing about dog logic - they are essentially arguing that Kirby's offense will be so basic and so simple (run run run - pass next series) that any journeyman QB will be able to run it.
Not sure they are complimenting themselves lol.
Uga likely wins 10 games by running 1950's football next year but will lose when they have to score more than 10 points. Kirby is great on D so they'll be in games but dogs should prepare for a terrible watching experience.
Not sure they are complimenting themselves lol.
Uga likely wins 10 games by running 1950's football next year but will lose when they have to score more than 10 points. Kirby is great on D so they'll be in games but dogs should prepare for a terrible watching experience.
If I have read correctly, there is already a lawsuit against PSU for this. If it was fantasy, it wouldn't have gotten that far. In either case, it's a black eye to PSU and the NCAA, and the NCAA is going to be doing a lot of PR work to get in front of this, and giving free transfers is a no-brainer. It looks good and costs no money.
That only works when you have so much more talent than the other guy you can simply impose your will. How does that work when you are retooling your OL, only have 1 decent returning WR, a new RB, a new QB, a new TE, a new OC?
Hell, this is the reason Fromm LEFT. He saw the dumpster fire he was getting his senior year, and realized it was going to hurt his draft stock. If UGa fans feel Newman is an upgrade over Fromm, why didn't Fields, who is the favorite to win the Heisman this year, beat him out for the starting job? I'd like to see the "dog logic" of how Newman is better than Fields.
so we've now pivoted form talk about all the 5 stars Georgia has all over the field and should win every natty. Now we are on the attrition that happens every year, how many leave via the portal, dumpster fires, blah blah blah. So either we have a decided talent advantage or we don't. You sy we don;t anymore. So it'll be fun to see what you pivot to next when you lose again.
And for the record, Newman is not better than Fromm. He will be serviceable. Is he getting some press? yes. But Trask gets some as well. It's part of being the starter at a major SEC power. But he might end up being a pretty good fit for the scheme Monken will install. Jake got screwed by the shitshow that was Coley. When he made his decision, Coley was still in place. I know you want to believe the OL is a shambles, but one thing Pittman did was play a ton of kids, and they are all at least 4 star guys so it's not a complete loss. It's not liek the guys last year were killing everyone anyway.
And as for your question of why Fields didn't beat out Fromm, well, he just wasn't able to. You'll have to ask him that question.
I don’t believe that to be the case at all. UF was after Shorter as soon as he went into the transfer portal. Shorter even visited Gainesville while UF and the team was in Miami for the Orange Bowl. That is how long UF has been talking to Shorter. As far as I know and from what I have heard there were never any discussions between UF & McKitty.
Shiiiiit. All we have to do is send a walk on to do a little over zealous pass interference and then swing on him after.
Pickens will do the rest.
hardliner,
Florida State tight end Tre' McKitty entered the NCAA transfer portal Jan 9, 2020 according to FSU.
https://247sports.com/college/flori...Kitty-entering-the-transfer-portal-141918554/
Shorter made his 1st visit to UF on Dec26, 2019.
https://247sports.com/college/flori...ansfer-Justin-Shorter-visiting-UF--141104444/
Difference is, Florida posters aren't thinking this guy will win them a NC by himself.
See, now you are just confused. It's the FLEAS who claim the all world roster. I'll agree that you had talent last year. And you have talent this year. All SEC teams have talent. But we must consider the early defections to the NFL, of which you had 5. Coupled with the seniors leaving, it's a major talent and experience exodus. Now look at the transfers out this year, of which there were 5. With so much talent leaving, last year's depth has to move into starting roles. And with so many transfers, the second string has a lot of gaps. So we have a lot less experience on the field, and some questionable backups, which might force tired guys to stay on the field, and that's never good.
So you see, where fleas look at the recruiting rankings and say "with all these top classes, we have TONS of talent". But I look at the roster, and see holes.
You'll still be pretty good next year, but you won't be elite. I see a 3 loss season as most likely. Maybe 2 if you get a few bounces and stay very healthy. But a couple of key injuries and bad breaks and it could get ugly.
Well, here is a list of 8, and two others currently in the transfer portal that happened after the article came out. So this is a total listing of 10. Looks like Beal changed his mind, didn't know that, so it would be 4 this year and 10 in the past two. Combine the 5 defections with the 4 transfers, that's more than 10% of the roster gone that was expected to contribute. That's not a small loss.
https://www.dawgnation.com/football/georgia-uga-transfer-fields-cox-ford-gibbs
https://247sports.com/college/georgia/Season/2020-Football/TransferPortal/
When you say Newman isn't better than Fromm, you are contradicting several of your brethren, one of whom claimed that the QB position would be 37% better next year. And no, I have no idea where he got 37% from.
We lost Otis Reese and Cade Mays. Reese had seemingly been surpassed by FR Lewis Cine. Cox was last year so not sure why he’s on there again. Beal did decide to stay. And we picked up Newman and McKitty along with some other QB I’ve never heard of.
Nowhere near the kind of break picture you were attempting to paint.
Opinions vary. But, as I said, he may have a better season if he fits well in Monkens scheme.
Well, hope spring eternal.
I just see a QB who doesn't know the receivers, doesn't know the playbook, doesn't know the Oline. The WR's are young and mostly unproven, the TE is a transfer who also needs to come in and adjust, the Oline is a bunch of guys working as a group for the first time and with a new position coach.
To me, offense is about communication and being all on the same page. I see a lot of guys potentially on a lot of different pages. Sure, it could all come together. But the odds are not good.
Wait, so now Fromm stinks so badly that a quitter from a bad ACC program is going to come in and immediately do better with the same WRs that Fromm worked with for 3 seasons?
LOL! Goodness, the homerism runs deep in the Spring. Also amusing that they are throwing Fromm under the bus as soon as he leaves. Always the player's fault, coach bowlcut gets the eternal pass.
LOL! Goodness, the homerism runs deep in the Spring. Also amusing that they are throwing Fromm under the bus as soon as he leaves. Always the player's fault, coach bowlcut gets the eternal pass.
Dude, just STFU. Suddenly Fromm had these receivers for 3 years after we heard all offseason about all the guys that left for the NFL. Cager and Pickens and Wolf were there for 3 years with Fromm? Just mind your own business you NTAC troll.
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Everyone will be on a new system. Lots of teams have experienced that, including your own. You probably know our O sucked so it’s not like there’s lots of room to go backwards to start with.
Transfers at the QB postion almost never workout as well as they "should have" on paper. It's probably an 8-1 ratio against the fan expectation imo.
