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For you libs, a serious question, if Joe Biden wins and you get the Senate

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Kind of reminds me of the dog catching the car and asking what do I do with it now.

Seriously, with both chambers of Congress and the Presidency, what 2 or 3 agenda items are most important to you to get worked on. Obama and Biden had that for their first 2 years and I think a lot of liberals were disappointed that they didn't get more done.

So what would you like to see happen.
 
Open Borders, oops I mean “Comprehensive Immigration Reform”

Full-on socialized medicine

Remove the tax-exempt status of religious institutions that oppose their policies

Permissive abortion right up to the moment of birth

Re-enter the Iran Deal

Nationalized Police Force

Re-enter the Paris Climate Change Agreement

Various tax initiatives to confiscate the hard-earned wealth of the rich in order to fund any number of feel good social programs

Nationwide government daycare - in order to better indoctrinate our young people

Abolish home schooling - see above

etc etc etc....
You are scaring me to death.
 
Open Borders, oops I mean “Comprehensive Immigration Reform”

Full-on socialized medicine

Remove the tax-exempt status of religious institutions that oppose their policies

Permissive abortion right up to the moment of birth

Re-enter the Iran Deal

Nationalized Police Force

Re-enter the Paris Climate Change Agreement

Various tax initiatives to confiscate the hard-earned wealth of the rich in order to fund any number of feel good social programs

Nationwide government daycare - in order to better indoctrinate our young people

Abolish home schooling - see above

etc etc etc....
You watch too much OAN.

we heard the same thing before Obama was elected and things turned out fine for most people.
 
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Kind of reminds me of the dog catching the car and asking what do I do with it now.

Seriously, with both chambers of Congress and the Presidency, what 2 or 3 agenda items are most important to you to get worked on. Obama and Biden had that for their first 2 years and I think a lot of liberals were disappointed that they didn't get more done.

So what would you like to see happen.

not going to happen.
 
As he should have. Some are good ideas.

But wait....you just said he watched too much OAN in the post I responded to. But now your position changed??? Odd.

Was the Iran Nuclear deal a good idea? I disagree on several of the others as well but I don't see how anyone could say that was good policy.
 
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So the top agenda item for the dems is legalizing drugs.

Top agenda item for Trump's 2nd term would be making it illegal to kill babies.

Kinda tells you how apart the parties are today on the morality scale.
 
So the top agenda item for the dems is legalizing drugs.

Top agenda item for Trump's 2nd term would be making it illegal to kill babies.

Kinda tells you how apart the parties are today on the morality scale.

I don't believe Trump is going to try to make abortion illegal. The last definitive words that I've heard from him on the subject were, "that issue has been decided."
 
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You watch too much OAN.

we heard the same thing before Obama was elected and things turned out fine for most people.

Black American poverty went up under Obama. Home ownership went down. Black on black crime set records. U. S. Census Bureau and the Federal; Bureau of Investigation are my sources.

Military by no means made off like bandits under Obama. The VA went through it's worst and least productive era so legions of veterans claim. F-18 Super Hornets set out of service for lack of parts. Flight training hours were curbed.

Legions suffered under Mugabecare. Insurance premiums swelled.

Mugabe's Marxist economic policies caused much suffering. Trump deregulated. There's nothing hard here. This is not classical mechanics. Most of us get it.
 
I don't believe Trump is going to try to make abortion illegal. The last definitive words that I've heard from him on the subject were, "that issue has been decided."
With all due respect, sadgator thinks it’s pretty safe to assume that Trump’s personally been pretty appreciative of the fact that abortion has been legal...

...so much For Ghost’s morality high horse...
 
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Un-Constitutional.imo.

Trump has already said that he's leaving it up to the individual states.
Which is right where it should be. o_O
WTF are you even talking about, unconstitutional?!?!?
Despite medical cannabis laws in 46 states, cannabis is still illegal under federal law. The federal government regulates drugs through the Controlled Substances Act (CSA) (21 U.S.C. § 811), which does not recognize the difference between medical and recreational use of cannabis. These laws are generally applied only against persons who possess, cultivate, or distribute large quantities of cannabis...

stay in your lane space man...
 
With all due respect, sadgator thinks it’s pretty safe to assume that Trump’s personally been pretty appreciative of the fact that abortion has been legal...

...so much For Ghost’s morality high horse...

No idea but it seems like a reasonable assumption.

Trump has leaned left on social issues for most of his life though he has moved right since 2015 out of necessity. It's one of the things that I find so absurd about the left's opinion of him, especially your far left whacko's.

I feel certain that he has done more for minorities than 99% of the rest of us in his private life and I say so because I've heard those stories from them, not Trump.
 
WTF are you even talking about, unconstitutional?!?!?
Despite medical cannabis laws in 46 states, cannabis is still illegal under federal law. The federal government regulates drugs through the Controlled Substances Act (CSA) (21 U.S.C. § 811), which does not recognize the difference between medical and recreational use of cannabis. These laws are generally applied only against persons who possess, cultivate, or distribute large quantities of cannabis...

stay in your lane space man...

I think he was saying that the feds should stay out of it entirely and allow states to make those calls as they see fit.

Aside from large scale smuggling operations into the US, that's pretty much their position. Sure as hell if the fed had a mind to, they could put a crap load of legal distributors in jail in states where it's legal based on state law while still illegal based on federal law.
 
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WTF are you even talking about, unconstitutional?!?!?
Despite medical cannabis laws in 46 states, cannabis is still illegal under federal law. The federal government regulates drugs through the Controlled Substances Act (CSA) (21 U.S.C. § 811), which does not recognize the difference between medical and recreational use of cannabis. These laws are generally applied only against persons who possess, cultivate, or distribute large quantities of cannabis...

stay in your lane space man...

You are just as stupid and/or uninformed as is usual for you. :confused:

The Federal Government has no mandate under the U.S. Constitution to decide anything concerning cannabis. The CSA itself is un-Constitutional. o_O

Just like they have no business in Education, or many other things that they have wrongly appropriated for themselves due to your kind of civic IGNORANCE. :cool:

What Does 10th Amendment Mean? | Politics by Dictionary.com
www.dictionary.com/e/politics/10th-amendment
It was also intended to make it clear that unless the federal government was explicitly granted authority to make a decision, it couldn’t do so. Any power not given to the federal government was to be turned over to the states to decide. That is, the federal government only has the powers granted in the writing of the Constitution.

 
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...so much For Ghost’s morality high horse...

The Democrat Party owned the slaves.

The progressive Nazi National Socialist Party admired the American Democrats for their racism.
They also admired the Democrats solutions for getting rid of the American Indians.
Indian Internment Camps, i.e. Concentration Camps. o_O

The Republican Party
emerged in 1854 to combat the Kansas–Nebraska Act and the expansion of slavery into American territories. The early Republican Party consisted of African-Americans, northern white Protestants, businessmen, professionals, factory workers, and farmers.
The Abolitionists were an activist sub-group of the Republican Party.
President Lincoln was the first Republican President.
Unsurprisingly, it was a Democrat that murdered him. :oops:
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When JFK began to move away from the Dim-Moe-Rats policies, they murdered him.
When Ronald Reagan left the Dim-Moe-Rats to become a Rep, they tried to murder him.
Now that Trump has departed from the Dim-Moe-Rats, I worry for him being murdered too.

The Democrat Party is also primarily responsible for the majority of the genocide of the American Indians in the 1830's, including President Andrew Jackson's (D) Trail of Tears. :(

As recently as the Civil Right Act of 1964, in both the House and the Senate, 80+% of the Republicans voted for it, while only 60+% of Democrats voted for it. o_O

Transference is the Democrats calling Republicans or conservatives, the Fascists, Nazi's, Racists, etc. when it's their own long history and continuous calling.
And the IGNORANT LIBERALS today are proud in their continued ignorance while riding in on their superior HIGH HORSE that's actually a lying braying ASS.... :cool:

So maybe you should put the joints down, turn off the porn, and read a book now and then. Or you can just continue to bask in your GALACTIC IGNORANCE... :p
 
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Typical loser leftist liberal response to being B-slapped with factual reality.... :cool:
 
With all due respect, sadgator thinks it’s pretty safe to assume that Trump’s personally been pretty appreciative of the fact that abortion has been legal...

...so much For Ghost’s morality high horse...

Maybe you just are ignorant about the origins of Planned Parenthood, so let's give you some background on the beliefs of the founder:

“The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to get out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.”

https://www.americamagazine.org/pol...s-eugenicist-why-are-we-still-celebrating-her

That's PP's founder. The same PP that you and every dem here openly embrace and support. And yes, she was a white woman.

Honest question: How do you defend that?
 
The same way that they always defend against getting B-slapped with reality....

mail

:cool:
 
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...so much For Ghost’s morality high horse...

The Democrat Party owned the slaves.

The progressive Nazi National Socialist Party admired the American Democrats for their racism.
They also admired the Democrats solutions for getting rid of the American Indians.
Indian Internment Camps, i.e. Concentration Camps. o_O

The Republican Party
emerged in 1854 to combat the Kansas–Nebraska Act and the expansion of slavery into American territories. The early Republican Party consisted of African-Americans, northern white Protestants, businessmen, professionals, factory workers, and farmers.
The Abolitionists were an activist sub-group of the Republican Party.
President Lincoln was the first Republican President.
Unsurprisingly, it was a Democrat that murdered him. :oops:
-----
When JFK began to move away from the Dim-Moe-Rats policies, they murdered him.
When Ronald Reagan left the Dim-Moe-Rats to become a Rep, they tried to murder him.
Now that Trump has departed from the Dim-Moe-Rats, I worry for him being murdered too.

The Democrat Party is also primarily responsible for the majority of the genocide of the American Indians in the 1830's, including President Andrew Jackson's (D) Trail of Tears. :(

As recently as the Civil Right Act of 1964, in both the House and the Senate, 80+% of the Republicans voted for it, while only 60+% of Democrats voted for it. o_O

Transference is the Democrats calling Republicans or conservatives, the Fascists, Nazi's, Racists, etc. when it's their own long history and continuous calling.
And the IGNORANT LIBERALS today are proud in their continued ignorance while riding in on their superior HIGH HORSE that's actually a lying braying ASS.... :cool:

So maybe you should put the joints down, turn off the porn, and read a book now and then. Or you can just continue to bask in your GALACTIC IGNORANCE... :p
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The same way that they always defend against betting B-slapped with reality....

mail

:cool:
 
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As Sadgator noted, Trump doesn’t care about abortion. He just made a deal with the GOP bigwigs to nominate conservatives to the SCOTUS in exchange for them accepting him as a candidate.

If Trump actually manages to win re-election, he’ll renege on that bargain, as he always does because he won’t need them anymore.
 
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As Sadgator noted, Trump doesn’t care about abortion. He just made a deal with the GOP bigwigs to nominate conservatives to the SCOTUS in exchange for them accepting him as a candidate.

If Trump actually manages to win re-election, he’ll renege on that bargain, as he always does because he won’t need them anymore.

So Trump made a deal with the GOP to keep all his campaign promises just to get elected?
 
As Sadgator noted, Trump doesn’t care about abortion. He just made a deal with the GOP bigwigs to nominate conservatives to the SCOTUS in exchange for them accepting him as a candidate.

If Trump actually manages to win re-election, he’ll renege on that bargain, as he always does because he won’t need them anymore.

What bargain will Trump renege on? I'm confused.

Are you thinking he won't nominate another conservative judge to the supreme court if he's reelected? If so....um, wut???

Or Trump won't overturn Roe vs Wade? It sounds like you meant this one...but since Trump isn't actually on the SCOTUS, he can't very well rule on Roe vs Wade.
 
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So Trump made a deal with the GOP to keep all his campaign promises just to get elected?

Exactly.

Why else would he have released a list of conservative-approved federal judges that he agreed to pick from once president? Do you think Trump has a passion for federal judiciary review? He probably had never even heard of anyone on that list until Mitch McConnell wrote it for him.
 
While I am disappointed in SCOTUS if Trump is re-elected then he might get 3 more picks and we could be up 7 or more justices. Now occasionally with the flip of Roberts or even Gorsuch it is unlikely with a 7-2 padding that we see more than 3 defections on major issues. The Barrett lady would IMHO be a game changer as she seems unabashed in her social conservatism. One of the Lee brothers or both would be an absolute coup of generational or multi-generational power at SCOTUS. Now is not the time to give up.

As the great General Neyland said in his famous maxims used by many FB teams in some form or another:

Maxim 3. If at first the game - or the breaks - go against you, don't let up... put on more steam.

4. Protect our kickers(Senate), our QB(President), our lead (current control of executive) and our ball game (desired outcome).

7. Carry the fight to our opponent and keep it there...
 
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If Democrats get both houses I hope they pass a law that every verified Trump voter gets membership to one of his golf clubs:

 
While I am disappointed in SCOTUS if Trump is re-elected then he might get 3 more picks and we could be up 7 or more justices. Now occasionally with the flip of Roberts or even Gorsuch it is unlikely with a 7-2 padding that we see more than 3 defections on major issues. The Barrett lady would IMHO be a game changer as she seems unabashed in her social conservatism. One of the Lee brothers or both would be an absolute coup of generational or multi-generational power at SCOTUS. Now is not the time to give up.

As the great General Neyland said in his famous maxims used by many FB teams in some form or another:

Maxim 3. If at first the game - or the breaks - go against you, don't let up... put on more steam.

4. Protect our kickers(Senate), our QB(President), our lead (current control of executive) and our ball game (desired outcome).

7. Carry the fight to our opponent and keep it there...

Amy Coney Barrett is Pro-Life, Pro-Family and Pro-Law.

Dems hate all three.
 
Or at least get obama to explain why he bought a new house that will be underwater in 10 years due to climate change.

Obama hasn't fallen for the Gorleone ruse. He plays along. Some estimate say Gorleone has picked up a cool $150 million with this sham.

Weather hasn't been cooperating as of late.
 
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