@gatordad3 this is why i can't ignore @kalimgoodman despite him being a liar. He always talks himself into a corner.
Even more reasons the SCOTUS needs ethics reform.
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As long as you don't let him draw you into one of his intellectually dishonest debates, kalim's post are an unintentional treasure.
Time to bring in the kalimgoodman truth squad….
www.wsj.com
Opinion | What ProPublica’s Latest Hit Piece Gets Wrong
Among other errors, it wrongly places Clarence Thomas in the Bahamas and overestimates the value of a football ticket by three orders of magnitude.
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Get better sources...ProPublica isn't news it's directed propaganda.Clarence Thomas loves free gifts, despite hating "handouts". The irony...
Clarence Thomas’ 38 Vacations: The Other Billionaires Who Have Treated the Supreme Court Justice to Luxury Travel
The fullest accounting yet shows how Thomas has secretly reaped the benefits from a network of wealthy and well-connected patrons that is far more extensive than previously understood.www.propublica.org
"A DCNF review of tax documents in June revealed that ProPublica’s biggest donors, such as the Sandler Foundation, which launched the outlet, also fund several groups calling for Thomas to be investigated or resign. A majority of experts cited by ProPublica in its stories on Supreme Court justices alleged ethics violations also have histories of donating to Democratic campaigns and left-wing causes, the DCNF’s review of Federal Election Commission (FEC) records found."
Clarence Thomas Says ‘Unreported’ Yacht Voyage With Oil Baron Seized On By Liberal Media… Never Actually Happened
ProPublica's latest story on Justice Clarence Thomas features a "previously unreported" yacht trip the justice says never happend.
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It's ok when Biden does it, he didn't leave the dem plantation.
This thread is following the usual flow..... @kalimgoodman posts inaccurate information from a lefty source. We try to help him see the error of his ways. He refuses. Then we source how the lefty source got it wrong.....and kalim leaves the thread.
Like clockwork.
Like clockwork.
Thomas admitted that some of stuff they reported is true. It doesn't matter who funding them because plenty of it is true. You always focus on the red herring, smh.Get better sources...ProPublica isn't news it's directed propaganda.
"A DCNF review of tax documents in June revealed that ProPublica’s biggest donors, such as the Sandler Foundation, which launched the outlet, also fund several groups calling for Thomas to be investigated or resign. A majority of experts cited by ProPublica in its stories on Supreme Court justices alleged ethics violations also have histories of donating to Democratic campaigns and left-wing causes, the DCNF’s review of Federal Election Commission (FEC) records found."
Clarence Thomas Says ‘Unreported’ Yacht Voyage With Oil Baron Seized On By Liberal Media… Never Actually Happened
ProPublica's latest story on Justice Clarence Thomas features a "previously unreported" yacht trip the justice says never happend.
First off, only one of these two men took bribes.
Secondly - one is 1/3rd of the federal govt and the other 1/9th of a single branch.
So try again….
I’m focused on a publication that was funded and founded by donors whose goal is getting rid of Thomas who are acting like real journalists….and you swallowed the hook hard enough to use it to start a thread.
I can’t believe you didn’t discover this in all the extensive research you did on the subject.
I know you really lost him when you started using fractions. He ain't that smart.
Who cares if the information is true? Every publication has questionable funding. What matters is the work. You make zero sense.
Imagine if someone purchased a home for Joe. Imagine if Joe was on trips paid for by billionaires. Just imagine...
At the same time it's not the same. Voters can punish Joe or not for anything that he does. Thomas and the other 9 justices can't get punished by the voters. You're being intellectually dishonest.
No, you are.
Thomas hung out with his friends, and there’s zero evidence any of that influenced even one decision from the bench. Thomas is one of the most consistent constitutionalists on the Court,
Biden received tens of millions from countries like China, he’s only in office because of massive fvckery, and you’re ignoring every last bit of it.
So no, I’ll stick to not being worried at all about Thomas and his integrity. You stick with Biden and let’s see how all of this shakes out.
DNR this thread. The biggest reform would be if "you can't define a woman", your ass needs to be sent packing. /thread.Clarence Thomas loves free gifts, despite hating "handouts". The irony...
Clarence Thomas’ 38 Vacations: The Other Billionaires Who Have Treated the Supreme Court Justice to Luxury Travel
The fullest accounting yet shows how Thomas has secretly reaped the benefits from a network of wealthy and well-connected patrons that is far more extensive than previously understood.
I never said that he was influenced but you're not coming at this with an open mind. You made a decision to defend Thomas before you read one sentence of an article. That's why these conversations go nowhere with far right people like you.
Calling him a friend is interesting. He met him AFTER he was on the court. All of his "gifts" happened after he was on the court from his "friends".
Joe never received money from China but let’s say that he did for debate purposes and Joe said that it was money from a friend, you buying that?
What if hunter said that everyone gave him money because he was a nice guy and they were friends, you still buying that?
You can't define women. I asked that question and got like 10 different answers.
Apprantley if you receive money, just say it was from a friend and they were showing hospitality. You guys consider that reason, valid.
Again, ALL of your information comes from a source funded by people with one goal in mind - smear Justice Thomas.
In a quote from the first article they wrote, even they don't assert as fact what you are here:
"Each of these men — Novelly, Huizenga, Sokol and Crow — appears to have first met Thomas after he ascended to the Supreme Court. ."
Joe's family rec'd $3.5MM from China. That's a fact. That's one payment of many we have bank records for. ALL of the alleged gifts to Justice Thomas wouldn't equal that one payment alone. So don't try to argue scale, you've already lost that.
And Joe is making decision after decision that benefit countries that paid him, and hurts us. He's sent an incredible amount of treasure and weapons to Ukraine (remember his comment that we are low on artillery?).
He's trying to force the Green New Deal down our throat which will lead to an incredible dependence on China to make our energy sector and economy operate.
His administration came out in support of Taiwan independence with this statement:
The Administration’s Approach to the People’s Republic of China - United States Department of State
中文 (中国) | العربية | Français | हिन्दी | Português | Русский | Español | اُردو SECRETARY BLINKEN: Thank you. Good morning. It’s a real pleasure to be here at The George Washington University. This is an institution that draws outstanding students and scholars from around the world and where...
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Do you understand the global implications of China invading Taiwan? That statement is basically a green light, begging the bully on the block not to take the little guy's lunch money. Biden doesn't care because he's leveraged and his career is nearly over.
And I'm defending Thomas not blindly, but based on what I've seen from him. He's a constitutional rock surrounded by RINO's and judicial activists. He's been consistent throughout his esteemed career, and he's one of the leading legal minds in the country. He's a brilliant, principled man, and some boat trips don't change any of that.
If you want to accuse my opinion of being 100% based in politics, that's fine. I don't think you're opinion carries much water in this regard, at least not with me. As usual you cite crap sources and then argue hypotheticals and opinions. It's pretty weak, and most likely very partisan. I'd like to the see same vitriol for Sotomayor and her "book deals".
Ok man. Clarence Thomas already admitted that some of it is true and Alito admitted that his stuff was true with an op-ed.Again, ALL of your information comes from a source funded by people with one goal in mind - smear Justice Thomas.
In a quote from the first article they wrote, even they don't assert as fact what you are here:
"Each of these men — Novelly, Huizenga, Sokol and Crow — appears to have first met Thomas after he ascended to the Supreme Court. ."
Joe's family rec'd $3.5MM from China. That's a fact. That's one payment of many we have bank records for. ALL of the alleged gifts to Justice Thomas wouldn't equal that one payment alone. So don't try to argue scale, you've already lost that.
And Joe is making decision after decision that benefit countries that paid him, and hurts us. He's sent an incredible amount of treasure and weapons to Ukraine (remember his comment that we are low on artillery?).
He's trying to force the Green New Deal down our throat which will lead to an incredible dependence on China to make our energy sector and economy operate.
His administration came out in support of Taiwan independence with this statement:
"We oppose any unilateral changes to the status quo from either side; we do not support Taiwan independence; and we expect cross-strait differences to be resolved by peaceful means."The Administration’s Approach to the People’s Republic of China - United States Department of State
中文 (中国) | العربية | Français | हिन्दी | Português | Русский | Español | اُردو SECRETARY BLINKEN: Thank you. Good morning. It’s a real pleasure to be here at The George Washington University. This is an institution that draws outstanding students and scholars from around the world and where...
Do you understand the global implications of China invading Taiwan? That statement is basically a green light, begging the bully on the block not to take the little guy's lunch money. Biden doesn't care because he's leveraged and his career is nearly over.
And I'm defending Thomas not blindly, but based on what I've seen from him. He's a constitutional rock surrounded by RINO's and judicial activists. He's been consistent throughout his esteemed career, and he's one of the leading legal minds in the country. He's a brilliant, principled man, and some boat trips don't change any of that.
If you want to accuse my opinion of being 100% based in politics, that's fine. I don't think you're opinion carries much water in this regard, at least not with me. As usual you cite crap sources and then argue hypotheticals and opinions. It's pretty weak, and most likely very partisan. I'd like to the see same vitriol for Sotomayor and her "book deals".
If you can't even acknowledge that majority of the information is credible then you are blindly defending and wasting both of our time.
Did I say he didn't ever go on a vacation with friends? Where did I claim that?
Did the article (from your crap, biased source) say he definitively met these people before or after being sworn in? Where did it say that?
What evidence was presented that he's been influenced? What decisions deviated from his core principles enough to throw up red flags?
Did I provide examples of how Biden has made decisions that help governments that have provided payments to his family or did I not?
What's amazing is how bent out of shape you are about 1/9th of the Judicial Branch's PERCEIVED improprieties while totally ignoring hard evidence (first-hand witnesses, gov't officials testifying under oath, subpoenaed bank records, suspicious activity reports, emails, texts and what's app messages, etc. etc.) that 1/3rd of our gov't is wholly corrupted by foreign bribes.
I know I overuse the word but you overuse the tactic - this is gaslighting 101. You're buying into/pushing a BS narrative to draw attention away from the biggest influence peddling scandal in this history of our country because politics are your religion.
Unproven ethics violations on the SC pale in comparison to the election integrity and influence peddling problems facing this country. Eye on the ball please.
Crow said that he met Clarence Thomas after he was on the SCOTUS. You clearly don't know shit about this and you're just blindly defending him while wasting our time. Read more on this and then reply.
This country has a multitude of problems……. But “free” trips and other gifts to a SCOTUS (much of which is alleged and unproven) barely cracks into the top 200 of these problems IMO.
There were several people listed in the article, that you apparently just posted but never read, who Pro Publica accuses Thomas of meeting after being sworn in, but they can't confirm it...which at the end of the day isn't the point and doesn't matter...but that's what you're trying to do again - change the subject to avoid the main point.
And recall, the Yacht story about Novelly in the latest article wasn't true...which means no only do you not "know shit" about the subject, your one and only source doesn't either.
Now, can we talk about an entire branch of the Federal Gov't being bought and paid for or do you still want to discuss fake boat trips that didn't influence anyone?
It does for Kalim, because it keeps him from having to face how bad the Biden Crime Family is...he's got us talking about books and boats.
Notice he's said eff all about Sotomayor leveraging massive book buys everywhere she speaks...I think it's close to $3.7MM in book sales to universities she's delivered talks to...when you're left of NPR you're not an independent anymore.
Fatman don't be that guy. I clearly called out Sotomayor as well. Stop trying to make this "partisan" because it's not. I don't like what ANY of them is doing. CT is just the worse.
You don't that people who decide our laws, shouldn't look compromised? Why not?
It's his gotcha and his counter to corruption from Joe and his loser son. He doesn't much care otherwise either.
You didn't call her out - you mentioned her name after I did - see posts 27 and 29 ITT.
No, you went after the Conservative. And Thomas didn't receive $3.7MM in leveraged payments in kind or otherwise, but you think he's "worse"....I wonder why?
I'm going to ask one more time....name the opinions that Thomas has written or voted for/against that show he's corrupt.
If you can't name one this looks a whole lot like a guy going on vacation with his friends.
Wow he really can't stand that Thomas isn't a dem.
I love it. This issue really exposes the left to independents and moderates in the black community.
I clearly don't remember this. At all.
Here's the search results for this board where you talked about Sotomayor. Please point me toward where you 'called her out':
Search results for query: sotomayor
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He's one of the most brilliant and principled legal minds of our generation - whether you're a constitutionalist or a progressive legal activist - and he's being attacked for going on vacation.
REALLY makes you wonder about motives...
And I couldn't care less about Sotomayor's book deals either. If she wants to make some side hustle cash I'm ok with it, as long as it doesn't interfere with her decisions.
Wait...
Justice Sonia Sotomayor didn’t recuse herself from cases involving publisher that paid her $3M: report
Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor didn’t recuse herself from multiple cases involving a book publisher – Penguin Random House – which paid her more than $3 million since 2010, according t…
nypost.com
Now I'm REALLY worried about @kalimgoodman 's motives here. I won't mention it because it's taboo, but it's sus at best.
Yep. She ruled on cases where her publisher was involved. As clear of an ethics violation as there is. Maybe illegal?He's one of the most brilliant and principled legal minds of our generation - whether you're a constitutionalist or a progressive legal activist - and he's being attacked for going on vacation.
REALLY makes you wonder about motives...
And I couldn't care less about Sotomayor's book deals either. If she wants to make some side hustle cash I'm ok with it, as long as it doesn't interfere with her decisions.
Wait...
Justice Sonia Sotomayor didn’t recuse herself from cases involving publisher that paid her $3M: report
Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor didn’t recuse herself from multiple cases involving a book publisher – Penguin Random House – which paid her more than $3 million since 2010, according t…
Now I'm REALLY worried about @kalimgoodman 's motives here. I won't mention it because it's taboo, but it's sus at best.
But @kalimgoodman says nothing....other than trying to spin that Gorsuch did the same thing. Which he did not.
I feel so sorry for people that let their politics run their lives. Textbook example of what it looks like ITT.
But I said that you're correct and I am not defending her. They all need to stop it. You can't even admit that.
I never said that he was compromised. I said the appearance or look compromised and yes you make a case that he ruled in interest for the people giving him trips.
@fatman76 has already admitted it, why lie? No judge should be taking money from a business, then ruling on cases involving that business. A clear ethics violation at minimum.
The only justice doing that on the SC is Sotomayor. Not Thomas, not Alito, not Gorsuch.
Your girl. @fatman76 has said it needs to stop, all you do is lie and claim Thomas and Gorsuch did the same thing as Sotomayor.
This is what you ALWAYS do when confronted with corruption on the left. You try to take an action by someone on the right as being the same, then say BOTH SIDES need to stop it. You did the same thing with Hunter, you tried to spin that Ivanka getting trademarks from China was the same thing as Hunter getting millions from other countries.
You cannot have honest conversations dealing with dishonest posters.
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