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3 of 37 from the field and 8% shooting with only 12 points at halftime. I don't ever remember a first half that bad.
12 first half points and 40 second half points. Very odd team. They just don't really fit together. AM is 5-0 and is much better than people give them credit. We have lost twice to them by 5 total points.
Last time I remember something similar to those kind of stats.....was probably an under 8 year old basketball game or a girl's basketball game.
To make it more funny/sad is that without free throws it would be a single digit half.
It's a very good thing that they got rid of the NO OFFENSE other dude, he was such a loser....
And it's also a very good thing that the hired an ANALYTICS HC that comes in saying that he can fix the 3-Pt shooting consistency problems. And for anyone that didn't like watching the game last night, there's this...
And it's also a very good thing that the hired an ANALYTICS HC that comes in saying that he can fix the 3-Pt shooting consistency problems. And for anyone that didn't like watching the game last night, there's this...
What is crazy is when they start clamping down on defense finally all at once they can't shoot at all. Castleton has even been a disappointment this season though he has never had a good shot away from the basket.
Hoping we can beat White again and keep him out of the tourney at least.
From Page 1 of this thread.... It's not even the Golden boyz fault....
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Gators Hoops Assistant Kevin Hovde Shaping the Future of Florida’s Scoring Attack
Following years of stagnancy and inconsistency for Florida on the offensive end, assistant Kevin Hovde is shaping the future of a dynamic Gators scoring attack.
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Golden Opportunity - Florida Gators
The path Todd Golden took to become Florida's 19th men's basketball coach was paved by a ferocious will to compete. And succeed.floridagators.com
And getting the most out of their entire roster with Lane and Felder....
Felder's not with the team anymore - self imposed sabbatical. It is curious, though, why Lane doesn't even see the floor.
Florida trailed despite the fact that A&M came into the game leading the country in free throws made and didn’t attempt one in the first half.
UF was 2-for-26 in the first 20 minutes
and while the 3-point shooting was bad (1-for-11),
the problem was scoring inside the arc where the Gators were 1-for-15.
Pat Dooley’s instant reactions to Florida’s close loss at TAMU
Here are Pat Dooley's quick takeaways from Wednesday night's disappointing loss.
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White/UGA - With a 13-5 team that had 6 total win's last year.
FG% 42.4 - 3's% 34.2 - Pts 1,269 - RB's/Gm 34.4
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FG% 44.0 - 3's% 33.0 - Pts 1,313 - RB's/Gm 33.3
Golden/UF - With a 20 win NIT team last year.
2022-23 SEC Standings:
5. UGA - 13-5, 3-2 SEC and 2.5 Gms behind.
8. UoF - 10-8, 3-3 SEC, and 3 Gms behind.
Florida trailed despite the fact that A&M came into the game leading the country in free throws made and didn’t attempt one in the first half.
UF was 2-for-26 in the first 20 minutes
and while the 3-point shooting was bad (1-for-11),
the problem was scoring inside the arc where the Gators were 1-for-15.
Pat Dooley’s instant reactions to Florida’s close loss at TAMU
Here are Pat Dooley's quick takeaways from Wednesday night's disappointing loss.
White/UGA - With a 13-5 team that had 6 total win's last year.
FG% 42.4 - 3's% 34.2 - Pts 1,269 - RB's/Gm 34.4
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FG% 44.0 - 3's% 33.0 - Pts 1,313 - RB's/Gm 33.3
Golden/UF - With a 20 win NIT team last year.
2022-23 SEC Standings:
5. UGA - 13-5, 3-2 SEC and 2.5 Gms behind.
8. UoF - 10-8, 3-3 SEC, and 3 Gms behind.
The Gators had better shooting than White's team had in the head to head matchup though and White blew a 13 point lead which he is known for.
Felder went from a starter, to 2 Min/Gm, to ZERO Min/Gm, so because of his lack of use, he's taking a sabbatical away from a HC that is not using his talents. Seems reasonable to me, and a wonder that he's not already in the portal. Because he was a transfer-in, maybe he's just finishing up his degree before moving on as a no sit-out Grad-xfer... Lane won't have any sit-out problem, so I see him bolting soon too, but probably not before the end of the season/semester...
So Whites team blew a 13 Pt lead,,, that Golden's team never had.
Impressive,,, Most Impressive.... 🤓
I noticed that you didn't mention their head to heat match-ups vs AU/Pearl.... 🤣
Oh look! I found someone who still reads Fat Dooley's garbage articles.Florida trailed despite the fact that A&M came into the game leading the country in free throws made and didn’t attempt one in the first half.
UF was 2-for-26 in the first 20 minutes
and while the 3-point shooting was bad (1-for-11),
the problem was scoring inside the arc where the Gators were 1-for-15.
Pat Dooley’s instant reactions to Florida’s close loss at TAMU
Here are Pat Dooley's quick takeaways from Wednesday night's disappointing loss.
White/UGA - With a 13-5 team that had 6 total win's last year.
FG% 42.4 - 3's% 34.2 - Pts 1,269 - RB's/Gm 34.4
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FG% 44.0 - 3's% 33.0 - Pts 1,313 - RB's/Gm 33.3
Golden/UF - With a 20 win NIT team last year.
2022-23 SEC Standings:
5. UGA - 13-5, 3-2 SEC and 2.5 Gms behind.
8. UoF - 10-8, 3-3 SEC, and 3 Gms behind.
We play again at the end and it will be nice watching White self destruct again and probably cost them any chance at the tournament.
So, if White just misses the tourney after taking over a 6 win them, then that proves that he's a chitty HC?
Okeey-Dokeey, then going by your own standards, what do you call Golden if he doesn't make the tourney after taking over a 20 win NIT team???
Still LMFAO at the total hypocrisy being displayed here by a few.... 😂
PS -- I don't GaS what White does or doesn't do with UGly, cause I'm a Gator fan....
Okeey-Dokeey, then going by your own standards, what do you call Golden if he doesn't make the tourney after taking over a 20 win NIT team???
Still LMFAO at the total hypocrisy being displayed here by a few.... 😂
PS -- I don't GaS what White does or doesn't do with UGly, cause I'm a Gator fan....
Of course it does if he allows this Gator team to sweep him and keep them out of the tournament.
But you failed (as usual) to answer the pertinent question, instead choosing to throw confetti/hate at White.... Typical feveredbrains...
Looking and thinking on the season so far....
Team Averages: Min. - FG% - 3's% - FT's% - Pts/Gm
Castleton - 30.9 - .497 - .100 - .705 - 14.9
Jitoboh ---- 9.4 - .640 - .500 - .579 - 2.6
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Richard -- 27.1 - .478 - .406 - .897 - 91
Bonham - 17.7 - .397 - .358 - .698 - 8.5
Lofton --- 30.8 - .403 - .294 - .861 - 8.8
Jones - 17.7 - .338 - .296 - .900 - 4.8
Reeves - 20.4 - .400 - .292 - .769 - 9.1
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Fudge - 23.2 - .435 - .321 - .788 - 7.5
Felder - 13.3 - .536 - .333 - 1.000 2.5
The rest play so little that their stats don't matter....
Team Stat Leaders:
Minutes Played - Castleton 30.9 - Lofton 30.8
Scoring - Castleton 14.9
FG% - Jitoboh .640 (16 of 25) - Felder .536 (15 of 28) Castleton .497 (97 of 195)
3's% - Richard .406 ((26 of 54) - Krugel .393 (11 of 28) - Bonham .358 (24 of 67)
FT% - Only those with 20+ attempts - Jones .900 - Richards .897 - Lofton .861
Team FT% - .751
RB's - Castleton 145 - Fudge 93 - Richards 73
PF's - Fudge 44 - Castleton 37 - Jitoboh 37 - Lofton 33
Ast's - Castleton 48 - Lofton 48 - Jones 32 - Bonham 28
TO's - Castleton 49 - Krugel 27 - Fudge 25 - Lofton 22 - Bonham 21
Stl's - Castleton 19 - Bonham 18 - Richards 17
Blk's - Castleton 58 - Fudge 14 - Richard 10
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You need to consider minutes played and # of shots taken when judging the stats.
Team Averages: Min. - FG% - 3's% - FT's% - Pts/Gm
Castleton - 30.9 - .497 - .100 - .705 - 14.9
Jitoboh ---- 9.4 - .640 - .500 - .579 - 2.6
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Richard -- 27.1 - .478 - .406 - .897 - 91
Bonham - 17.7 - .397 - .358 - .698 - 8.5
Lofton --- 30.8 - .403 - .294 - .861 - 8.8
Jones - 17.7 - .338 - .296 - .900 - 4.8
Reeves - 20.4 - .400 - .292 - .769 - 9.1
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Fudge - 23.2 - .435 - .321 - .788 - 7.5
Felder - 13.3 - .536 - .333 - 1.000 2.5
The rest play so little that their stats don't matter....
Team Stat Leaders:
Minutes Played - Castleton 30.9 - Lofton 30.8
Scoring - Castleton 14.9
FG% - Jitoboh .640 (16 of 25) - Felder .536 (15 of 28) Castleton .497 (97 of 195)
3's% - Richard .406 ((26 of 54) - Krugel .393 (11 of 28) - Bonham .358 (24 of 67)
FT% - Only those with 20+ attempts - Jones .900 - Richards .897 - Lofton .861
Team FT% - .751
RB's - Castleton 145 - Fudge 93 - Richards 73
PF's - Fudge 44 - Castleton 37 - Jitoboh 37 - Lofton 33
Ast's - Castleton 48 - Lofton 48 - Jones 32 - Bonham 28
TO's - Castleton 49 - Krugel 27 - Fudge 25 - Lofton 22 - Bonham 21
Stl's - Castleton 19 - Bonham 18 - Richards 17
Blk's - Castleton 58 - Fudge 14 - Richard 10
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You need to consider minutes played and # of shots taken when judging the stats.
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White does his best work in year 1-2. He will have gerogia squarely in the middle of the pack, which is a huge improvement for them.
You do realize that our scoring average is up this year over the last 2 years of Mike White AND our scoring average is higher than White's bulldogs, right?
If you compares all the stats between last year's Gator team and this year's, they are very similar except that last year's team was winning more games.
2 points higher on the scoring average...and yes last year was winning more. But what had become a trademark of White's teams we struggle down the stretch. Hopeful we have the opposite this year.
Rebounding, shooting percentages, assists, turnovers all nearly identical to last year's team. And I think this year's team has more talent. Last year's team made the NCAA tournament. I highly doubt this year's team will. Like most posters, I was ready for Mike White to move on. But so far, to me, Golden has not been as good as he was, albeit this is only year 1 and he has to be allowed 2-3 years to get his guys and system in place.
Last years team did not make the NCAA tournament. White is not a good coach. Jury is out on Golden but White isn’t good so you don’t keep a coach just because maybe the next guy is on par or worse. With that being said just maybe our AD is actually the biggest problem.
I stand corrected. We just made the NIT. My old brain is getting cloudy. I have never advocated for White being kept around. He should have been pushed out after 4-5 years, IMO. My point is that so far Golden hasn't been any better. And I agree that Scott Stricklin needs to be replaced before all of our sports programs start deteriorating.
Correct White should have been pushed out a few years earlier. Golden hasnt don’t good but he was also handed a shit sandwich from White as far as the roster goes. We just allowed White to continue to tear down what had been built by that prior coach that we had. And yes Stricklin has to go.
These guys play hard. But it’s a real bad roster and our offense is terrible. I feel like I used to say the same thing every year about White.
It’s possible that we are such a bad shooting/offensive team that coaching is beside the point. So I’ll give this guy a year to recruit. But I’m not loving the X’s and O’s so far.
It’s possible that we are such a bad shooting/offensive team that coaching is beside the point. So I’ll give this guy a year to recruit. But I’m not loving the X’s and O’s so far.
The offensive system under Golden is much better than White’s. More ball movement and more player movement off the ball. We have players getting open looks at the basket. The issue is we have basically no shooters. White never really recruited any shooters and his teams couldn’t shoot and Golden has no shooters on his team as well. You need to have a couple of guys that can knock down some jumpers.
I think we do have better shooters this year. Will Richard's FG % this year is 47.8%, 56.9% shooting 2's and 40.6% shooting 3's. Last year at Belmont he shot 46.8%, 60.4% shooting 2's, 30.6% shooting 3's. Trey Bonham, in 2 years at VMI, had a 48.7% shooting percentage, 54.7% shooting 2's and 36.9% shooting 3's. This year at UF he's shooting 39.7%, 44.9% shooting 2's and 35.8% shooting 3's. Kyle Lofton, in 4 years at St. Bonaventure, had a 42.1% field goal percentage, 47.1% shooting 2's and 30.3% shooting 3's. This years he's at 40.3% overall. As a team we are shooting 44%, which is 7th in the SEC. Missouri is 1st at 48.7%. We are 10th in rebounding, 12th in assists, 10th in steals, 2nd in free throw % and 2nd in blocks. So we get outrebounded and don't steal the ball as much as our opponents, meaning other teams get more shots than us, plus we don't get as many assists, indicating too much one on one play or missing too many open shots. Yet we shoot it pretty well.
I do think that Golden's offensive scheme is better, but the players are inconsistent for whatever reason. A guy will be really good 1 game and then can't make a layup the next. They often get off to horrible starts and then down the stretch they miss key shots or free throws or have a turnover at the worst possible time. And I don't think Golden has done a very good job with his rotations and finding the right combinations, as 18 games in he's still making significant adjustments in the starting lineup and with playing time (except for Castleton).
That is because the players we have are inconsistent. How many players on the team have had a few good games in a row? Nobody outside of Castleton. I think that is the difficulty he is having in the combinations. He has no idea who is going to play good and who isn’t.
This team should meet in the parking lot right before the game and play a pickup half game with the fans and get that out of the way.
They were actually talking a little while ago on the Steve Russell show about the basketball team playing a 15 minute scrimmage game instead of pre-game warm-ups just to get them going.
