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I think Biden should make history. He should nominate a homeless illegal alien who is handicapped and also a lesbian. It would check off SOOOOOOOO many boxes.
LOL... Yes the old box checker candidate.. It will be tough to better the fool and former NYC mayor Bill DeClownio.. He married a black lesbian...
 
Actually you did based on that silly U.K. graph. I’ll let you go back and check, and then come back and apologize.

Im not privy to every Thomas quote, especially since he rarely opens his mouth during deliberations. Wise move on his part.
I posted all-cause mortality numbers from the UK. We're seeing a similar spike in all cause mortality in ages 18-49 in the US as well. I think it's fair to look at those statistics and ask why. At the end of the day, no stat is more important than all cause mortality. The goal is for people not to die, whatever the cause.

And I posted a list of over 300 athletes who died or collapsed and required hospitalization. I also posted a chart showing cardiac events in athletes spiked in 2021. Seems reasonable to wonder why, especially given the medical establishment's admission that the mRNA vaccines can cause heart inflammation.

But please, go find my posts and let's have an actual adult conversation about them. That's why I posted them.


Now, back to how "stupid" Clarence Thomas is...let's see those examples.
 
The libs smearing Robert Bork was a major turning point in the SCOTUS confirmation process becoming so political. In modern times, the Roe v Wade decision has certainly politicized the SC overall.
Did you realize that 6 republicans voted not to confirm Bork (and two democrats voted for confirmation)? Did you also realize that there were about 10 other judges prior to Bork that didn't get confirmed, so it wasn't just a one time lynching. Was it political...…of course it was. But it was within the confines of the system.

The Mitch McConnell move not to vote on a presidential nominee forever changed the system. A president no longer has the power to pick a judge, its now the senate that has the power. If/when the shoe is on the other foot the democrats will now certainly do the same thing McConnell did.

When history writes the story about who dealt the biggest blow to the legitimacy of the Supreme court, its going to be talking about Mitch.
 
I posted all-cause mortality numbers from the UK. We're seeing a similar spike in all cause mortality in ages 18-49 in the US as well. I think it's fair to look at those statistics and ask why. At the end of the day, no stat is more important than all cause mortality. The goal is for people not to die, whatever the cause.

And I posted a list of over 300 athletes who died or collapsed and required hospitalization. I also posted a chart showing cardiac events in athletes spiked in 2021. Seems reasonable to wonder why, especially given the medical establishment's admission that the mRNA vaccines can cause heart inflammation.

But please, go find my posts and let's have an actual adult conversation about them. That's why I posted them.


Now, back to how "stupid" Clarence Thomas is...let's see those examples.
The most obvious answer to athletes/people dying is Covid. I had Covid and it kicked my ass for 6 weeks. I took the vaccine and I felt bad for one day.

And if I was an athlete who dropped dead tomorrow some "I hate the vaccine" knucklehead like you is going to try and tell people it was the vaccine.

Occam's razor applies.
 
I posted all-cause mortality numbers from the UK. We're seeing a similar spike in all cause mortality in ages 18-49 in the US as well. I think it's fair to look at those statistics and ask why. At the end of the day, no stat is more important than all cause mortality. The goal is for people not to die, whatever the cause.

And I posted a list of over 300 athletes who died or collapsed and required hospitalization. I also posted a chart showing cardiac events in athletes spiked in 2021. Seems reasonable to wonder why, especially given the medical establishment's admission that the mRNA vaccines can cause heart inflammation.

But please, go find my posts and let's have an actual adult conversation about them. That's why I posted them.


Now, back to how "stupid" Clarence Thomas is...let's see those examples.
I never said Thomas was stupid. Now who’s putting words in peoples mouth.

But it’s all relative.
 
I posted all-cause mortality numbers from the UK. We're seeing a similar spike in all cause mortality in ages 18-49 in the US as well. I think it's fair to look at those statistics and ask why. At the end of the day, no stat is more important than all cause mortality. The goal is for people not to die, whatever the cause.

And I posted a list of over 300 athletes who died or collapsed and required hospitalization. I also posted a chart showing cardiac events in athletes spiked in 2021. Seems reasonable to wonder why, especially given the medical establishment's admission that the mRNA vaccines can cause heart inflammation.

But please, go find my posts and let's have an actual adult conversation about them. That's why I posted them.


Now, back to how "stupid" Clarence Thomas is...let's see those examples.
Yeah, drugs, alcohol and murder. Just odd that you would post it in a Covid thread.
 
Did you realize that 6 republicans voted not to confirm Bork (and two democrats voted for confirmation)? Did you also realize that there were about 10 other judges prior to Bork that didn't get confirmed, so it wasn't just a one time lynching. Was it political...…of course it was. But it was within the confines of the system.

The Mitch McConnell move not to vote on a presidential nominee forever changed the system. A president no longer has the power to pick a judge, its now the senate that has the power. If/when the shoe is on the other foot the democrats will now certainly do the same thing McConnell did.

When history writes the story about who dealt the biggest blow to the legitimacy of the Supreme court, its going to be talking about Mitch.
No it isn't.

First, there's almost no chance Garland would have been confirmed anyway. The R's controlled the Senate. It would mark the first time since Bork a SC justice would have failed confirmation...11 Republican members of the Senate Judiciary Committee signed a letter saying they would not consent to an Obama nominee 10 months from a Presidential election. It didn't matter what McConnell did, the votes weren't there.

Secondly, saying "the Senate picks SC justices" is moronic. There's a confirmation process to make sure we don't have dictators unilaterally making decisions. Winning down ballot races matters in the US. Your deference for totalitarian rule is showing again, you may want to tuck that back in.

Lastly, your President, Biden, established a strong precedent. I'm sure you know of the "Biden Rule". So you're right, what goes around does, at times, come back around.

But this doesn't apply in this instance, the filibuster has been removed for SC confirmations and the Dems will get someone in and confirmed quickly. And they should, those are the rules that have been set up and they have the numbers in the Senate and the WH. We need a balanced court. If there's a Red Wave in the mid terms and then a R President is elected we'd be facing a 7-2 majority on the court, that isn't good.

I just sincerely hope Biden selects on merit and not immutable physical characteristics. We've seen how that works out.
 
I never said Thomas was stupid. Now who’s putting words in peoples mouth.

But it’s all relative.
You said "hopefully someone smarter than Thomas".

Seems like odd timing when an Obama nominee literally just outed herself as being extremely detached from the facts surrounding an issue they were ruling on. Why not say "someone smarter than Sotomayor"? Where's the evidence Thomas isn't an extremely intelligent man?

Now pick up your shovel and explain how you're not calling him stupid.
 
If there's a Red Wave in the mid terms and then a R President is elected we'd be facing a 7-2 majority on the court, that isn't good.
Its would be great to have constitutionalists on the bench. The constitutionalists are on the right. It would be great for them to be 9-0 to the right. People need to be on the bench that reject collectivism unless it is enumerated in the constitution and whose default is protecting the rights of the individual, as the founders would have known them, from the government. In other words the needs of the many do NOT outweigh the rights of the individual. This means liberty without licentious behavior.

Such a court rejects Obamacare out of hand and any other such scheme. Balance? No! constitutionalists! YES!
 
Its would be great to have constitutionalists on the bench. The constitutionalists are on the right. It would be great for them to be 9-0 to the right. People need to be on the bench that reject collectivism unless it is enumerated in the constitution and whose default is protecting the rights of the individual, as the founders would have known them, from the government. In other words the needs of the many do NOT outweigh the rights of the individual. This means liberty without licentious behavior.

Such a court rejects Obamacare out of hand and any other such scheme. Balance? No! constitutionalists! YES!
There are constitutionalists and revisionists. Is it a coincidence the revisionists are all leftist shills? I think not.
 
And if I was an athlete who dropped dead tomorrow some "I hate the vaccine" knucklehead like you is going to try and tell people it was the vaccine.

So sort of like all the people who died of covid instead of with covid until it became politically expedient to make the distinction???
 
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An FSU what? In your apparent haste to post what you thought was a snappy comeback, you forgot to insert the word "graduate".
Looks like you're one UF grad who just did a big FAIL.

Sit down, Sparky.
There is no doubt he's an embarrassment to the Flagship U. He proves it daily. Sort of like this...........being a Jacksonville resident you know the back story. 🤣 Jailbirds of a feather flock together.
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No it isn't.

First, there's almost no chance Garland would have been confirmed anyway. The R's controlled the Senate. It would mark the first time since Bork a SC justice would have failed confirmation...11 Republican members of the Senate Judiciary Committee signed a letter saying they would not consent to an Obama nominee 10 months from a Presidential election. It didn't matter what McConnell did, the votes weren't there.

Secondly, saying "the Senate picks SC justices" is moronic. There's a confirmation process to make sure we don't have dictators unilaterally making decisions. Winning down ballot races matters in the US. Your deference for totalitarian rule is showing again, you may want to tuck that back in.

Lastly, your President, Biden, established a strong precedent. I'm sure you know of the "Biden Rule". So you're right, what goes around does, at times, come back around.

But this doesn't apply in this instance, the filibuster has been removed for SC confirmations and the Dems will get someone in and confirmed quickly. And they should, those are the rules that have been set up and they have the numbers in the Senate and the WH. We need a balanced court. If there's a Red Wave in the mid terms and then a R President is elected we'd be facing a 7-2 majority on the court, that isn't good.

I just sincerely hope Biden selects on merit and not immutable physical characteristics. We've seen how that works out.
Biden is not my president, so stop being an idiot. I don't even like Biden. But you can't handle any viewpoint that is the least bit objective so you say stupid things.

Please try and grow up.

And stop trying to use big words.....you don't know what they mean and it just makes you look like a fool (again). You struggle with basic concepts...…so try and stick with them for awhile.

Mitch (or the republicans if you prefer, it doesn't matter) avoided the confirmation process.....they stold the power of appointment from Obama and gave it to Trump (IE: senate has the power).

Those are just stone cold facts whether you like them or not.
 
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Mitch (or the republicans if you prefer, it doesn't matter) avoided the confirmation process.....they stold the power of appointment from Obama and gave it to Trump (IE: senate has the power).
You're telling me to not "use big words" and you literally just invented a new word...in the same post?

The irony is too much. 😆

No one "stold" anything. There's a Senate confirmation process as a check and balance on Presidential power.

If you don't have the Senate you should nominate a SC candidate that both sides can agree on. Nominating a hyper partisan like Garland was an intentional move by Obama so shallow thinkers could throw a temper tantrum into perpetuity. Obama was alot of things, but dumb was not one of them. He knew Garland's confirmation was DOA.

And the name calling and personal attacks.....it's a sure sign you're not winning a debate. Stick to the issue. Just some friendly advice.
 
Did you realize that 6 republicans voted not to confirm Bork (and two democrats voted for confirmation)? Did you also realize that there were about 10 other judges prior to Bork that didn't get confirmed, so it wasn't just a one time lynching. Was it political...…of course it was. But it was within the confines of the system.

The Mitch McConnell move not to vote on a presidential nominee forever changed the system. A president no longer has the power to pick a judge, its now the senate that has the power. If/when the shoe is on the other foot the democrats will now certainly do the same thing McConnell did.

When history writes the story about who dealt the biggest blow to the legitimacy of the Supreme court, its going to be talking about Mitch.
No one can deny Bork was intellectually gifted enough to serve on the SC, but he definitely had a lot of baggage from the Watergate scandal, and even a Republican who agreed with his judicial philosophy could certainly in good conscience have been troubled by his participation in firing the Watergate special prosecutor.

And yes, I realize that Bork was certainly not the first SC nominee to fail to be confirmed. However, his nomination process included ugly attacks that would have been libelous except for the fact that Senators are constitutionally protected while speaking from the Senate floor. Ever heard of the phrase "Borking" a nominee?

LOL at your comment "A president no longer has the power to pick a judge, its now the senate that has the power." Have you not read the Constitution where the President appoints judicial nominees and the Senate gives it advice and consent.

Finally Mitch McConnell was simply following the precedent set forth by Joe Biden and Harry Reid in refusing to bring Merrick Garland's nomination up consideration. Was it political? Hell yes it was. But I was glad to see the Senate GOP grow a collective spine for once and give Obama the big F-U to putting an ideological culture warrior on the bench. What we're seeing in Garland's performance as AG makes me thankful he's not legislating from the bench.
 
You're telling me to not "use big words" and you literally just invented a new word...in the same post?

The irony is too much. 😆

No one "stold" anything. There's a Senate confirmation process as a check and balance on Presidential power.

If you don't have the Senate you should nominate a SC candidate that both sides can agree on. Nominating a hyper partisan like Garland was an intentional move by Obama so shallow thinkers could throw a temper tantrum into perpetuity. Obama was alot of things, but dumb was not one of them. He knew Garland's confirmation was DOA.

And the name calling and personal attacks.....it's a sure sign you're not winning a debate. Stick to the issue. Just some friendly advice.

This from the guy who couldn't even pull a correct number from an electoral map and made several posts off a completely bullshit number that was pretty obvious to everyone else. Ya, that's the guy who is going to point out a typo, LOL

Your wrong here and you know it. So does the rest of the world. But, just as the countless number of other times you have been wrong you will never admit it. Yup, your that guy.
 
No one can deny Bork was intellectually gifted enough to serve on the SC, but he definitely had a lot of baggage from the Watergate scandal, and even a Republican who agreed with his judicial philosophy could certainly in good conscience have been troubled by his participation in firing the Watergate special prosecutor.

And yes, I realize that Bork was certainly not the first SC nominee to fail to be confirmed. However, his nomination process included ugly attacks that would have been libelous except for the fact that Senators are constitutionally protected while speaking from the Senate floor. Ever heard of the phrase "Borking" a nominee?

LOL at your comment "A president no longer has the power to pick a judge, its now the senate that has the power." Have you not read the Constitution where the President appoints judicial nominees and the Senate gives it advice and consent.

Finally Mitch McConnell was simply following the precedent set forth by Joe Biden and Harry Reid in refusing to bring Merrick Garland's nomination up consideration. Was it political? Hell yes it was. But I was glad to see the Senate GOP grow a collective spine for once and give Obama the big F-U to putting an ideological culture warrior on the bench. What we're seeing in Garland's performance as AG makes me thankful he's not legislating from the bench.
Why didn't Mitch bring the nomination up and then let it fail so Obama's could nominate a more moderate judge...…..just like what happened with Bork?

Not doing it, which will now be repeated, gives the senate the power. I know what the constitution says.....and that is the very thing that makes this so bad. Or did you not see what happened with RGB? Impossible to argue time frame given what happened there. If you have control of the senate you now have control over who gets to pick the nomination. We are talking substance here, not form.
 
Did you realize that 6 republicans voted not to confirm Bork (and two democrats voted for confirmation)? Did you also realize that there were about 10 other judges prior to Bork that didn't get confirmed, so it wasn't just a one time lynching. Was it political...…of course it was. But it was within the confines of the system.

The Mitch McConnell move not to vote on a presidential nominee forever changed the system. A president no longer has the power to pick a judge, its now the senate that has the power. If/when the shoe is on the other foot the democrats will now certainly do the same thing McConnell did.

When history writes the story about who dealt the biggest blow to the legitimacy of the Supreme court, its going to be talking about Mitch.
One of the reasons I said Mitch helped divide this country the most.
 
Why didn't Mitch bring the nomination up and then let it fail so Obama's could nominate a more moderate judge...…..just like what happened with Bork?

Not doing it, which will now be repeated, gives the senate the power. I know what the constitution says.....and that is the very thing that makes this so bad. Or did you not see what happened with RGB? Impossible to argue time frame given what happened there. If you have control of the senate you now have control over who gets to pick the nomination. We are talking substance here, not form.
One thing I always found funny about Garland was some Republicans were saying that Obama wanted to nominate a radical left judge and if he cared about bringing the country together he'll nominate someone like Garland. Then he nominated Garland and those same Republicans came up with a new reason. That was so hilarious to me.
 
One thing I always found funny about Garland was some Republicans were saying that Obama wanted to nominate a radical left judge and if he cared about bringing the country together he'll nominate someone like Garland. Then he nominated Garland and those same Republicans came up with a new reason. That was so hilarious to me.
obama knew anyone he nominated would never get confirmed. So he nominated as close to a 'moderate' as he could to try to spin that he was trying to be fair and Mitch wasn't.

He was playing politics. Same thing Mitch did. But you conveniently only see one side of it.
 
One thing I always found funny about Garland was some Republicans were saying that Obama wanted to nominate a radical left judge and if he cared about bringing the country together he'll nominate someone like Garland. Then he nominated Garland and those same Republicans came up with a new reason. That was so hilarious to me.
The irony in this is the fact that because Obama nominated a boring white dude, progressive liberals took offense and didn't feel overly compelled to put more heat on their Senators to debate Garland's nomination.
 
The irony in this is the fact that because Obama nominated a boring white dude, progressive liberals took offense and didn't feel overly compelled to put more heat on their Senators to debate Garland's nomination.
Yeah there is truth to that but pressuring Senators doesn't work.
 
This from the guy who couldn't even pull a correct number from an electoral map and made several posts off a completely bullshit number that was pretty obvious to everyone else. Ya, that's the guy who is going to point out a typo But, just as the countless number of other times you have been wrong you will never admit it. Yup, your that guy.
:rolleyes:
 
One thing I always found funny about Garland was some Republicans were saying that Obama wanted to nominate a radical left judge and if he cared about bringing the country together he'll nominate someone like Garland. Then he nominated Garland and those same Republicans came up with a new reason. That was so hilarious to me.
Yeah, we "see" just how moderate Garland is. You really just can't make this stuff up. 🤣
 
That's not my words. That's words from a Republican Orrin Hatch.
If Mitch is really savvy, he will let this one go quickly and let Biden fulfill a campaign promise. Zero reason to die on this hill and if anything it will cement long held perceptions against Mitch.

Let the Democrats nominate their person, the top two are Ivy League graduates and interns to the SC. Regardless of whether they are ideal or not is not important. A 6-3 split will still hold.

Dying on the hill will only cement Mitch as an obtuse, obstructionist. No reason to do that.
 
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Apparently Orrin buys his Depends from the same Target that Brandon does. He obviously hasn't paid attention to Garland's actions as AG.
Garland is worst sort of "moderate", meaning s/he has no specific point of view, but bends to pressure wherever it comes.
 
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If Mitch is really savvy, he will let this one go quickly and let Biden fulfill a campaign promise. Zero reason to die on this hill and if anything it will cement long held perceptions against Mitch.

Let the Democrats nominate their person, the top two are Ivy League graduates and interns to the SC. Regardless of whether they are ideal or not is not important. A 6-3 split will still hold.

Dying on the hill will only cement Mitch as an obtuse, obstructionist. No reason to do that.
There is no point to fighting this one.
 
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