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BREAKING: Sen Chuck Grassley releases FD-1023 form that details $5,000,000 bribe payment to Joe Biden and another to Hunter Biden

So you've gone from saying you can't trust what the whistleblower says to now you DO believe what a dem says about what the whistleblower said?

While saying something isn't trustworthy if it's 2nd or 3rd hand info?

Mercy. I don't think you're going to make it.
I will say it once again. His ONLY strategy is to deny, deny and deny some more. He doesn't WANT to see the truth and is in too deep to EVER acknowledge it. I would never try to convince him of anything that he will never believe anyway, no matter what evidence is presented. Just a waste of time. But he is entertaining with ridiculous rhetoric that Baghdad Bob would have been proud of.
 
I will say it once again. His ONLY strategy is to deny, deny and deny some more. He doesn't WANT to see the truth and is in too deep to EVER acknowledge it. I would never try to convince him of anything that he will never believe anyway, no matter what evidence is presented. Just a waste of time. But he is entertaining with ridiculous rhetoric that Baghdad Bob would have been proud of.
Because he has every 3 letter agency, the MSM and big tech covering for him
 
I will say it once again. His ONLY strategy is to deny, deny and deny some more. He doesn't WANT to see the truth and is in too deep to EVER acknowledge it. I would never try to convince him of anything that he will never believe anyway, no matter what evidence is presented. Just a waste of time. But he is entertaining with ridiculous rhetoric that Baghdad Bob would have been proud of.
He will deny until the truth comes out, then he will run away.
 
The WH is STILL pushing their (changed to a new, but claiming its always been) narrative that Brandon has never been in business with Hunter. Joe and the WH were first claiming that Joe NEVER talked to Hunter about his business dealings.

And they believe people are dumb and won't notice the change.
 
Biden was caught on video bragging about enforcing US policy. He was bragging about how he got someone to resign that Obama and other countries wanted to resign. He was bragging about his ability to get things done. There is no facts that he got the man fired to protect his son. The only real facts out there is that he got him fired because the Obama Administration wanted him fired in partnership with EU countries. That article even mentions that. That prosecutor was viewed as corrupt.

Therefore, what would be the bribe? He was doing his job.

Until you guys can answer the Obama administration question. You guys will continue to look silly and mainstream media will laugh at y'all.
The guy who owned Burisma, along with some of his top execs, told the FBI under oath the bribe was paid because Shokin was investigating Burisma.

Read this recap of a meeting with Burisma executives who tell the whole story:

I don't know what other proof you could possibly need?

Clearly the Obama administration is covering up the truth b/c it implicates them. Why would Burisma admit to an international bribery scheme with top US officials? Who has more to gain here? Use some common sense.
 
The WH is STILL pushing their (changed to a new, but claiming its always been) narrative that Brandon has never been in business with Hunter. Joe and the WH were first claiming that Joe NEVER talked to Hunter about his business dealings.
@kalimgoodman

Biden is flat out lying, but we already knew that.

 
The guy who owned Burisma, along with some of his top execs, told the FBI under oath the bribe was paid because Shokin was investigating Burisma.

Read this recap of a meeting with Burisma executives who tell the whole story:

I don't know what other proof you could possibly need?

Clearly the Obama administration is covering up the truth b/c it implicates them. Why would Burisma admit to an international bribery scheme with top US officials? Who has more to gain here? Use some common sense
You're just being partisan like always.


The conspiracy theory alleges that then-Vice President Biden withheld loan guarantees to pressure Ukraine into firing a prosecutor to prevent a corruption investigation into Burisma and to protect his son. The United States did withhold government aid to pressure Ukraine into removing the prosecutor[4] due to his own corruption and failures to clean up corruption,[5] in accordance with the official and bipartisan policy of the federal government of the United States, the European Union, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund.[6][7]
 
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@kalimgoodman

Biden is flat out lying, but we already knew that.

To me the Burisma stuff is settled based on plenty of documented evidence, including a GOP Senate investigation. All real evidence points to everyone wanting that Shokin fired and Biden was the person asked to follow through with it.

Now if we want to discuss other things sure but this Burisma stuff is going to embarrass you guys so much. Doing all this, just because you guys think it will help give you the WhiteHouse. Just pathetic and sad.
 
Guys, it seems the story has changed over the last 24 hours. Now, the focus is on the obamas. Yes, the very suspicious death of his chef has a lot to do with it. But I am seeing more and more people making the connection that whatever schemes the Bidens were in on, they didn't learn how to do that on their own. obama knew, and likely got them involved.

Guys....it's over. We've got them all, it's only a matter of time now. Now we just sit back and watch the slow public unveiling of all their corruption.
 
To me the Burisma stuff is settled based on plenty of documented evidence, including a GOP Senate investigation. All real evidence points to everyone wanting that Shokin fired and Biden was the person asked to follow through with it.

Now if we want to discuss other things sure but this Burisma stuff is going to embarrass you guys so much. Doing all this, just because you guys think it will help give you the WhiteHouse. Just pathetic and sad.
I don't understand.

Here's what we know:
1) $5MM was paid to Biden and $5MM to Hunter.
2) Burisma execs testify to the FBI (it's a felony to lie) that that money was a bribe to fire the investigator looking into corruption at Burisma. Did you read any of that link in my last post? It's pretty clear.
3) Biden confirmed the entire story in public, on camera.

Why would Burisma pay a bribe to fight corruption when they were the target of a corruption investigation?

And the Senate investigation was 3 years ago - the article you posted above was dated Sept 2020...in this news cycle that's eons ago. They didn't have any of the information we have now, they were just trying to figure out why the hell a Ukrainian energy company would be paying Hunter to sit on their board. Now we have bank records and sworn testimony from people directly involved (which the FBI had and hid from investigators). Surely you admit that changes the story considerably?

I think you know how bad this is and you're trying REAL hard to make it go away.
 
I don't understand.

Here's what we know:
1) $5MM was paid to Biden and $5MM to Hunter.
2) Burisma execs testify to the FBI (it's a felony to lie) that that money was a bribe to fire the investigator looking into corruption at Burisma. Did you read any of that link in my last post? It's pretty clear.
3) Biden confirmed the entire story in public, on camera.


Why would Burisma pay a bribe to fight corruption when they were the target of a corruption investigation?

And the Senate investigation was 3 years ago - the article you posted above was dated Sept 2020...in this news cycle that's eons ago. They didn't have any of the information we have now, they were just trying to figure out why the hell a Ukrainian energy company would be paying Hunter to sit on their board. Now we have bank records and sworn testimony from people directly involved (which the FBI had and hid from investigators). Surely you admit that changes the story considerably?

I think you know how bad this is and you're trying REAL hard to make it go away.
This is all SPOT ON. The most famous and important evidence in this case comes RIGHT from Brandons mouth. (and lets not forget...the EXACT thing for what Trump was impeached for...minus his family shaking down a company for millions of dollars)
 
This is all SPOT ON. The most famous and important evidence in this case comes RIGHT from Brandons mouth. (and lets not forget...the EXACT thing for what Trump was impeached for...minus his family shaking down a company for millions of dollars)
It just blows me away that someone would even try to post a 3 year old article and act like that preliminary investigation ended it...ignoring anything else we've learned since then.

Gaslighting is one thing but that's a new level of intellectual dishonesty.
 
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I don't understand.

Here's what we know:
1) $5MM was paid to Biden and $5MM to Hunter.
2) Burisma execs testify to the FBI (it's a felony to lie) that that money was a bribe to fire the investigator looking into corruption at Burisma. Did you read any of that link in my last post? It's pretty clear.
3) Biden confirmed the entire story in public, on camera.

Why would Burisma pay a bribe to fight corruption when they were the target of a corruption investigation?

And the Senate investigation was 3 years ago - the article you posted above was dated Sept 2020...in this news cycle that's eons ago. They didn't have any of the information we have now, they were just trying to figure out why the hell a Ukrainian energy company would be paying Hunter to sit on their board. Now we have bank records and sworn testimony from people directly involved (which the FBI had and hid from investigators). Surely you admit that changes the story considerably?

I think you know how bad this is and you're trying REAL hard to make it go away.
Man you read that wrong. The guy that testified said that it was 2nd hand information. Stuff that he heard. The FBI never were about to confirm it. Raskins sent out a statement about that.

Once again, until you guys can speak for EVERYONE wanting Shokin fired and Obama administration says that Joe carried out US policy, it's not a bribe. You guys have to ignore that because it makes this already stupid claim dumber. Shokin was corrupted! And it was investigated. Another fact that is ignored.

"March 2016 led to Shokin's removal from office[85] after an investigation into extortion of another company led to associates who were found in possession of diamonds, cash and other valuables,[86] as well as documents and passports belonging to Shokin.[87]"

Biden confirmed his negotiation skills and how he got done what was asked of him. In that same video (you guys only talk about the clip), Biden said that he was ASSIGNED Ukraine and asked to get that guy fired. He even spoke about how the president supported his actions. Which once again shows that he was assigned to do something for Obama. Yet you guys will continue to ignore that because it fit your story.
 
Man you read that wrong. The guy that testified said that it was 2nd hand information. Stuff that he heard. The FBI never were about to confirm it. Raskins sent out a statement about that.

Once again, until you guys can speak for EVERYONE wanting Shokin fired and Obama administration says that Joe carried out US policy, it's not a bribe. You guys have to ignore that because it makes this already stupid claim dumber. Shokin was corrupted! And it was investigated. Another fact that is ignored.

"March 2016 led to Shokin's removal from office[85] after an investigation into extortion of another company led to associates who were found in possession of diamonds, cash and other valuables,[86] as well as documents and passports belonging to Shokin.[87]"

Biden confirmed his negotiation skills and how he got done what was asked of him. In that same video (you guys only talk about the clip), Biden said that he was ASSIGNED Ukraine and asked to get that guy fired. He even spoke about how the president supported his actions. Which once again shows that he was assigned to do something for Obama. Yet you guys will continue to ignore that because it fit your story.
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Man you read that wrong. The guy that testified said that it was 2nd hand information. Stuff that he heard. The FBI never were about to confirm it. Raskins sent out a statement about that.

Once again, until you guys can speak for EVERYONE wanting Shokin fired and Obama administration says that Joe carried out US policy, it's not a bribe. You guys have to ignore that because it makes this already stupid claim dumber. Shokin was corrupted! And it was investigated. Another fact that is ignored.

"March 2016 led to Shokin's removal from office[85] after an investigation into extortion of another company led to associates who were found in possession of diamonds, cash and other valuables,[86] as well as documents and passports belonging to Shokin.[87]"

Biden confirmed his negotiation skills and how he got done what was asked of him. In that same video (you guys only talk about the clip), Biden said that he was ASSIGNED Ukraine and asked to get that guy fired. He even spoke about how the president supported his actions. Which once again shows that he was assigned to do something for Obama. Yet you guys will continue to ignore that because it fit your story.
You didn’t read what I posted. The CHS was present and heard first hand about the bribery…and why they wanted Shokin fired.

And for the board’s edification - this is the source you tried to hide by copying and pasting. I’ll take a federal 1023 form given under oath, you can believe Wikipedia.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biden–Ukraine_conspiracy_theory#cite_note-McLaughlin_3/29/2016-85
 
This is the 4th or 5 time in the past 10 years you lot have been salivating over "all the information that's about to come out", yet somehow, no information ever comes out. Yet you all keep eating it up, hook, line and sinker.

I suppose Ghost is going to be telling us to "JUST WAIT" like he was doing a few years ago. Still waiting for that, and going to keep waiting for this, but nothing will ever happen, because there IS nothing. And yet you all will continue to take the bait, over and over, and continue to believe there is a massive conspiracy, over and over, because it's what you do. Good luck with your circle jerk boys, you must be bopping that baloney pretty hard right now, what with a new nothing story being fed to you.

I think my favorite part is how you all think it must be true, because Giuliani and Gingrich said so. Those two tell more lies before breakfast than most people do all day. 🤣
 
This is the 4th or 5 time in the past 10 years you lot have been salivating over "all the information that's about to come out", yet somehow, no information ever comes out. Yet you all keep eating it up, hook, line and sinker.

I suppose Ghost is going to be telling us to "JUST WAIT" like he was doing a few years ago. Still waiting for that, and going to keep waiting for this, but nothing will ever happen, because there IS nothing. And yet you all will continue to take the bait, over and over, and continue to believe there is a massive conspiracy, over and over, because it's what you do. Good luck with your circle jerk boys, you must be bopping that baloney pretty hard right now, what with a new nothing story being fed to you.

I think my favorite part is how you all think it must be true, because Giuliani and Gingrich said so. Those two tell more lies before breakfast than most people do all day. 🤣
Miss you, buddy. Don't run off this time, the show is about to begin.
 
Interesting. I didn't realize the Republican party was prosecuting Hunter. I thought it would have been, you know, the state's attorney. Fox News is just chock full of fools.
Coming from someone with zero morals, these comments mean alot.
 
You didn’t read what I posted. The CHS was present and heard first hand about the bribery…and why they wanted Shokin fired.

And for the board’s edification - this is the source you tried to hide by copying and pasting. I’ll take a federal 1023 form given under oath, you can believe Wikipedia.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biden–Ukraine_conspiracy_theory#cite_note-McLaughlin_3/29/2016-85
Once again, you didn't answer those questions and I explained why no one on this board did or will ever answer those questions.

You do understand that the FBI states that federal 1023 forms aren't accurate or truth until they can collaborate the information. They already said that the form Grassley released wasn't collaborated. So you basically admitted that you believe inaccurate information? 😂

I didn't hide anything, it has a link that you can click on and it will take you to it.
 
Once again, you didn't answer those questions and I explained why no one on this board did or will ever answer those questions.

You do understand that the FBI states that federal 1023 forms aren't accurate or truth until they can collaborate the information. They already said that the form Grassley released wasn't collaborated. So you basically admitted that you believe inaccurate information? 😂

I didn't hide anything, it has a link that you can click on and it will take you to it.
The FBI didn’t say that. Those are sworn statements and the CHS is one they’ve used and trusted in the past. He’s a trusted source.

And miss me with your “research” claims when your source is a Wikipedia page entitled “Biden Ukraine Conspiracy Theories”. And you did hide your source, the only way I could figure it out was you didn’t delete the hyperlinks in the citations, which you didn’t think anyone would do. You did not link your source at all. Regardless it’s garbage and that’s why you hid it, which is a BSC tactic.

Clown show stuff. No one moderates or validates anything on Wikipedia.

But let’s get back to facts - why would Burisma pay the Biden’s $10MM if the firing of Shokin was an Obama administration attempt to stop prosecutorial corruption in Ukraine? And what other corrupt prosecutors did the administration work so hard to fire? And why does the Obama administration care so much about eliminating corrupt prosecutors from sovereign nations?

Make ANY of it make sense please.
 
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