Bernie wants to tax billionaires at 97.5%

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

This is why millennials like @urtren and @DGlockUF think he's oh so dreamy. Libs that think they understand economics like @BSC911 and @bradleygator will also swoon.

Let's say Bernie is elected and he passes a comprehensive new tax plan that includes a new rate of 97.5% for billionaires (BTW, economists have looked at the plan and say it would eliminate half the country's billionaires within 15 years).

What that plan will ALSO include is provisions that a significant chunk of the new revenue raised from going after billionaires at 97.5% will go to alt-left government programs such as Planned Parenthood. PP will then take that money, take their cut, then use the majority to fund DONATIONS TO DEMOCRATIC CAMPAIGNS.

See how this works? Bernie can tell America that he took the money from the rich, and used it to fund government programs to help the American people. When in reality, that money was taken from Americans who earned it, and re-distributed to corrupt politicians.

The media will praise Bernie, sheep will adore him even more.

 

[AgentOrange2217]

@GhostOfMatchesMalone ...here below is why I am opposed to wealth distribution...I trust you can follow my words.
One thing the democrats say and do that has ruffled my feathers in the past is this: they remind us why and how we're always victims of the opposing party we might choose to vote for...and if you're like myself, who wants to be associated with groups who are always offended and victimized?...I for one, do not.
The democrats (to my knowledge) never speak out about or offer suggestions/ideas on how folks can elevate themselves...never how to "work it" (plan your work and work your plan---from the late Pat Summitt)...nor have they ever said (to my knowledge, "if you can pay for monthly internet & cell phones...you have the money to invest in the domestic stock market, CDs, and such...but no, they're always harping on victimization, how the wealthy are greedy pigs...but if that were true...why haven't the democrats told folks to stop paying for internet and cell phones, stay off Instagram, Facebook and save money by not supporting big-tech that the Left claims are the evil adversaries of our time?...I'm having trouble understanding what I find is such deep, pervasive hypocrisy...perhaps you have some ideas?
I don't understand why so many democratic politicos engage in such class warfare when they, the democratic politicos have gained so much associating with the ones who they claim are our enemies.
What the same politicos will never admit to us is that there will always be those who are poor (many through nothing of their own doing---the truly disabled) but many who are poor through poor decision-making, poor choices, and having no game plan or even thinking of a game plan to begin with.
There are too many ways of making a dollar, IMO...and IMO, (and I can look at myself, as well)...it's too easy to play the blame game...taking some sort of action can be work...and I'm mystified that while so many work hard at their jobs not to work just as hard to find how to make an extra dollar or two...maybe even three.
Your're a smart man, @GhostOfMatchesMalone ...and you understand that many folks don't have more simply because they really don't feel they deserve more...but funny (or sad depending upon how you look at it) many of these same folks feel so entitled to anything and everything they believe they don't have to pay for...again, this is my opinion...and I'll read/listen to any of your arguments where I'm wrong on this matter.
Wealthy folks...whether you admire or hate them always have similar attributes, IMO...they are organized, they "plan their work and work their plan,"...AND...they know they deserve the best that life has to offer...at least this is what I have parsed watching and listening to those who have done well...but who alive truly can not do better with increased effort, save the truly disabled?
IMO, @GhostOfMatchesMalone ...it matters not how high tax rates are raised for the wealthy or the middle class...and this is the reason I say this: if the folks (politicians) who create/make decisions for we, the people cannot live within the means of the tax payers now...I doubt they will do better with the peoples' money even with "supposedly" more taxes flowing into the national coffers.
I'm a firm believer that people not only live according to their priorities...but you can listen, hear, and watch in silence and tell much about how someone feels about themselves...and you can tell much about his/her feelings of self-worth, self-esteem.
While there are many who of "of means" there might be many reasons I find some of their actions to be needless, cruel, or downright dangerous...I do find affinity (albeit a small amount) that you'll almost never find a person of means that has doubts that he/she deserves the finer things in life...so, I am careful to look in my bathroom mirror and tell myself, "Agent, you are deserving the best in life."...and I mean it.
I watch the ones who always float "the class envy mantra"...and I have to wonder just how they actually feel about themselves.
And for those who keep talking about "jobs, jobs, jobs"...minimum wage, the wealthy are always your enemy, BLM, safe-space ideology, 235 different genders...how about telling those folks to stop being so envious, so angry, and so victimized...perhaps some of these same folks oughta admit Andrew Yang does have a point: as automation increases...and folks lose their income(s)...then we will really see a chit circus around here...have you noticed not one democrat (save Andrew Yang) or any republican office holder really talks about this?...and have you noticed nobody (that I know of) has introduced legislation to outright ban automation destroying jobs they claim they say they are all for?
I do find one area (and a slight one) with your words about Bernie Sanders...the media does not fawn over him that I can see...they love Pocahantas Warren...they see Bernie as too much of a threat to "business as usual."...Warren, they know she'll tow the line and not much will really change to threaten their power.
I appreciate your post from above and it gave me points to consider which lead to this point.
Many thanks,

Agent Orange

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

@GhostOfMatchesMalone ...here below is why I am opposed to wealth distribution...I trust you can follow my words.
One thing the democrats say and do that has ruffled my feathers in the past is this: they remind us why and how we're always victims of the opposing party we might choose to vote for...and if you're like myself, who wants to be associated with groups who are always offended and victimized?...I for one, do not.
The democrats (to my knowledge) never speak out about or offer suggestions/ideas on how folks can elevate themselves...never how to "work it" (plan your work and work your plan---from the late Pat Summitt)...nor have they ever said (to my knowledge, "if you can pay for monthly internet & cell phones...you have the money to invest in the domestic stock market, CDs, and such...but no, they're always harping on victimization, how the wealthy are greedy pigs...but if that were true...why haven't the democrats told folks to stop paying for internet and cell phones, stay off Instagram, Facebook and save money by not supporting big-tech that the Left claims are the evil adversaries of our time?...I'm having trouble understanding what I find is such deep, pervasive hypocrisy...perhaps you have some ideas?

Bingo. Self-reliance SHOULD be the goal, but the left wants to offer GOVERNMENT as the ever-present solution. They incentivize the breakup of the family and offer to be the new parents.

Government is always offered as the solution, so government will have all the power and decide who gets help and how much.

If the goal was really about shifting money from billionaires to those that need it, then incentivize charitable giving, don't increase taxes.

But somehow....someway.....any solution offered by the left involves money going from the rich PASSING THROUGH THE GOVERNMENT, then being redistributed.

Why does the government need to be the middle man? To get their cut. So the politicians pushing more taxes get their cut.

People are waking up. Sheep no more.

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

Freidrich Sanders longs for New Venezuela. I recommend reading The Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx and Freidrich Engels. Then tell me our own Freidrich didn't write the Engels text.

Bernie knows socialism has never worked. He believes he's the one anointed to make it work.

Our own Freidrich will not get the nomination. Too loony.

 

[bradleygator]

You guys are some real saps. The self reliance of the wealthy? Lol. How about the bank bailouts and money the feds been printing for the last 30 years. Keep licking boots kids. That trickle down will be here any minute!

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

No doubt bradley will define for us math's simplest equation.

 

[AgentOrange2217]

You guys are some real saps. The self reliance of the wealthy? Lol. How about the bank bailouts and money the feds been printing for the last 30 years. Keep licking boots kids. That trickle down will be here any minute!

The post was made for anybody to "trickle up" by doing more of the things to "trickle up."...nor was the post indicative or referring only to the wealthy.
Nor did anywhere in the posting speak of or mention bank bailouts or quantitative easing.
That was simply your two noted additions to the discourse.
As you, yourself, "trickled up" by becoming an attorney.
Interesting how you were able to do what you needed to do by attending law school...your reading comprehension must have been great...too bad said reading comprehension has slipped away in later years.
Time hasn't been your best friend.
Wisdom has clearly escaped from you.

Agent Orange

 

[bradleygator]

No doubt bradley will define for us math's simplest equation.

I’ll define you as a bunch of nickel and dimers voting and propagandizing for policies that are going to keep you broke. Democrats are no better. But you guys really don’t get this is a rigged game on both sides of the aisle? Like I say, good luck with that trickle down.

 

[bradleygator]

The post was made for anybody to "trickle up" by doing more of the things to "trickle up."...nor was the post indicative or referring only to the wealthy.
Nor did anywhere in the posting speak of or mention bank bailouts or quantitative easing.
That was simply your two noted additions to the discourse.
As you, yourself, "trickled up" by becoming an attorney.
Interesting how you were able to do what you needed to do by attending law school...your reading comprehension must have been great...too bad said reading comprehension has slipped away in later years.
Time hasn't been your best friend.
Wisdom has clearly escaped from you.

Agent Orange

Please. I read your apologist bullshit just fine. Ooohhh the diligence and industriousness of the rich. You know what wall street and Silicon Valley would be without taxpayer bailouts (i.e. our money)? Couple of smoking craters in the ground. We’re still bailing these people out with printed money while the rest of us pay $6 for milk. That doesn’t piss you off?

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

The post was made for anybody to "trickle up" by doing more of the things to "trickle up."...nor was the post indicative or referring only to the wealthy.
Nor did anywhere in the posting speak of or mention bank bailouts or quantitative easing.
That was simply your two noted additions to the discourse.
As you, yourself, "trickled up" by becoming an attorney.
Interesting how you were able to do what you needed to do by attending law school...your reading comprehension must have been great...too bad said reading comprehension has slipped away in later years.
Time hasn't been your best friend.
Wisdom has clearly escaped from you.

Agent Orange

Getting through is obviously completely beyond your and my reach.

 

[BamaFan1137]

Please. I read your apologist bullshit just fine. Ooohhh the diligence and industriousness of the rich. You know what wall street and Silicon Valley would be without taxpayer bailouts (i.e. our money)? Couple of smoking craters in the ground. We’re still bailing these people out with printed money while the rest of us pay $6 for milk. That doesn’t piss you off?

I bought a gallon today for $3.70.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

I’ll define you as a bunch of nickel and dimers voting and propagandizing for policies that are going to keep you broke.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

The post was made for anybody to "trickle up" by doing more of the things to "trickle up."...nor was the post indicative or referring only to the wealthy.

@bradleygator is a good little lib and sees the rich as evil and everyone as their victims. He thinks government is the lone defender, standing against the evil rich and saving the rest of us.

All I see is voluntary enslavement.

 

[BamaFan1137]

Please. I read your apologist bullshit just fine. Ooohhh the diligence and industriousness of the rich. You know what wall street and Silicon Valley would be without taxpayer bailouts (i.e. our money)? Couple of smoking craters in the ground. We’re still bailing these people out with printed money while the rest of us pay $6 for milk. That doesn’t piss you off?

I'd like to know how much we've spent on entitlements since LBJ and then I'd like to compare that number to the amount we've spent on bailouts over that same time frame.

Of course the entitlements are designed to pay out each year, more than the last year every year, without any real plan whatsoever for the madness to end.

Entitlements totaled ~ $2.5 trillion in 2018 ftr. To be fair Social Security is about $1 trillion of that total.

 

[DGlockUF]

Where'd you get that "97.5%" tax rate on billionaires numbers from,
@GhostOfMatchesMalone?

Not sure that stat is an official Bernie number... but I'm down.

Not too much substance on this threat to comment on other than @bradleygator pointing out that both major parties in this Country have been usurped by the corporatists. That is why the rich get tax brakes and rest of Us get more jobs that pay less and have fewer benefits than the generation before.

You think today's elected democratic officials represent the People? No. Not only do they no longer represent the People, that party is actively working against Our best interests & needs.

The hypocrisy of a campaign that ran on ending regime-change wars that once elected raised the military budget by $100 billion is almost as hypocritical as the "opposition" party that calls itself "the resistance" voting in support and passing said military budget expansion.

So what is the solution to Our Government being corrupted? Ya dang right we need to elect leaders not purchased by the establishment. Ya dang right we need to elect leaders that care more about People rather than profits. Ya dang right we need to elect leaders that will put Country before party. Ya dang right we need to elect leaders that believe in science.

Guess which wing doesn't take the corporate money? Guess which wing doesn't want to perpetuate endless wars that create more enemies and spends Our hard-earned money blowing up brown people overseas that think differently than we do? Guess which wing is actively taking back the democratic party from the corporatists?

Y'all guessed correctly, the PROGRESSIVES are fighting for Us, not the establishment/corporatists/oligarchy/billionaire class.

Please make sure to get registered up and Vote in 2020.

 

[BamaFan1137]

Where'd you get that "97.5%" tax rate on billionaires numbers from,
@GhostOfMatchesMalone?

Not sure that stat is an official Bernie number... but I'm down.

Not too much substance on this threat to comment on other than @bradleygator pointing out that both major parties in this Country have been usurped by the corporatists. That is why the rich get tax brakes and rest of Us get more jobs that pay less and have fewer benefits than the generation before.

You think today's elected democratic officials represent the People? No. Not only do they no longer represent the People, that party is actively working against Our best interests & needs.

The hypocrisy of a campaign that ran on ending regime-change wars that once elected raised the military budget by $100 billion is almost as hypocritical as the "opposition" party that calls itself "the resistance" voting in support and passing said military budget expansion.

So what is the solution to Our Government being corrupted? Ya dang right we need to elect leaders not purchased by the establishment. Ya dang right we need to elect leaders that care more about People rather than profits. Ya dang right we need to elect leaders that will put Country before party. Ya dang right we need to elect leaders that believe in science.

Guess which wing doesn't take the corporate money? Guess which wing doesn't want to perpetuate endless wars that create more enemies and spends Our hard-earned money blowing up brown people overseas that think differently than we do? Guess which wing is actively taking back the democratic party from the corporatists?

Y'all guessed correctly, the PROGRESSIVES are fighting for Us, not the establishment/corporatists/oligarchy/billionaire class.

Please make sure to get registered up and Vote in 2020.

I wonder why the powers that be picked brown people to blow up in Afghanistan and Syria? Probably just racism, right?

We should have attacked the Dutch to make things more fair.

 

[AgentOrange2217]

Please. I read your apologist bullshit just fine. Ooohhh the diligence and industriousness of the rich. You know what wall street and Silicon Valley would be without taxpayer bailouts (i.e. our money)? Couple of smoking craters in the ground. We’re still bailing these people out with printed money while the rest of us pay $6 for milk. That doesn’t piss you off?

$6 for moo juice (milk)??????
I shop at Aldi's.
Paid $2.29 for a gallon of moo juice last Sunday...three weeks and two weeks earlier they had it on sale for $0.89 per gallon....two weeks running.
You're obviously not a cents-able shopper.

Next item:
I've read your sappy reply.
But cents (sense) I cannot control who is or who isn't bailed out....
I simply do the things to save moar and spend less and live within my means.
The cents-able approach, I suppose...my wallet and checkbook agree.
My above post was what I and other cents-able people do.
We make things happen as best we can not flipping out over bailouts, climate change hysteria, and other things we can't control.
But we can and do control ourselves.
You might rest easier at night knowing this printed money you mentioned has less intrinsic
value than the currency in my wallet.
In case you're wondering what pi$$es me of this most is when I remember when I'm not doing the best I can do with my available resources.
So many folks spend more time whining about bailouts that I wish had never happened but never spending any time to figure out how to elevate their own circumstances.

Agent Orange

 

[BamaFan1137]

$6 for moo juice (milk)??????
I shop at Aldi's.
Paid $2.29 for a gallon of moo juice last Sunday...three weeks and two weeks earlier they had it on sale for $0.89 per gallon....two weeks running.
You're obviously not a cents-able shopper.

Next item:
I've read your sappy reply.
But cents (sense) I cannot control who is or who isn't bailed out....
I simply do the things to save moar and spend less and live within my means.
The cents-able approach, I suppose...my wallet and checkbook agree.
My above post was what I and other cents-able people do.
We make things happen as best we can not flipping out over bailouts, climate change hysteria, and other things we can't control.
But we can and do control ourselves.
You might rest easier at night knowing this printed money you mentioned has less intrinsic
value than the currency in my wallet.
In case you're wondering what pi$$es me of this most is when I remember when I'm not doing the best I can do with my available resources.
So many folks spend more time whining about bailouts that I wish had never happened but never spending any time to figure out how to elevate their own circumstances.

Agent Orange

I paid $3.70 because Alabama, in its infinite wisdom, created the Alabama Milk Control Board about 80 years ago (I think it was ~80 years ago). It was set up to keep milk affordable for people with lower incomes. Well it was actually created to control supply and demand to drive profits for the dairy industry. It works too...as milk is only about a dollar more expensive in Alabama than it is in surrounding states.

When you allow the government to get involved, they find a way to "fix" stuff.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

$6 for moo juice (milk)??????
I shop at Aldi's.
Paid $2.29 for a gallon of moo juice last Sunday...three weeks and two weeks earlier they had it on sale for $0.89 per gallon....two weeks running.
You're obviously not a cents-able shopper.

Walmart has had milk at 98 cents a gallon for last 2 years now since Trump economy took off. But @bradleygator lives in a blue state that's taxed to death by dems, then blames the rich when he can't afford milk for his kids LMAO!

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

Kalifornia is a blue state with a vanishing middle class. Tom Cruise Samuel L. Jackson and Mini Driver can afford $6 moo juice.

 

[AgentOrange2217]

I paid $3.70 because Alabama, in its infinite wisdom, created the Alabama Milk Control Board about 80 years ago (I think it was ~80 years ago). It was set up to keep milk affordable for people with lower incomes. Well it was actually created to control supply and demand to drive profits for the dairy industry. It works too...as milk is only about a dollar more expensive in Alabama than it is in surrounding states.

When you allow the government to get involved, they find a way to "fix" stuff.

If you live anywhere near Oxford, AL (right next to Anniston, AL)...you can go to the Aldi's there and get moo juice much cheaper than $3.70...have done that 3 times,myself in recent weeks...and none of the Aldi's in Birmingham that I have shopped at have had milk priced over $3.00...never once in my memory.
I paid $0.89 for a large loaf of honey wheat bread...that price has stayed the same for months.
Compared to Piggly Wiggly, Walmart grocery store, and Publix (the most expensive in my area)...I save approximately 45-50% shopping at Aldi's...however, Aldi's does not carry everything I want...so, I use some canned goods from Walmart grocery store...and only a few (and I mean a few) items at Publix.
I've saved my last four checkout tickets...and the highest amount I've paid for moo juice at any Aldi's was $2.49...and the highest price for a dozen eggs was $0.75...you might consider locating your nearest Aldi's and do a major stock-up and make the trip there...you put a quarter in the buggy that you get back when you return the buggy (cart) to the buggy/cart stand...take your own grocery bags...nobody bags your groceries there...usually pay $0.49 per small can of soup there.
I believe it's worth it to go to an Aldi's if you've never been to one.

Agent Orange

 

[BamaFan1137]

If you live anywhere near Oxford, AL (right next to Anniston, AL)...you can go to the Aldi's there and get moo juice much cheaper than $3.70...have done that 3 times,myself in recent weeks...and none of the Aldi's in Birmingham that I have shopped at have had milk priced over $3.00...never once in my memory.
I paid $0.89 for a large loaf of honey wheat bread...that price has stayed the same for months.
Compared to Piggly Wiggly, Walmart grocery store, and Publix (the most expensive in my area)...I save approximately 45-50% shopping at Aldi's...however, Aldi's does not carry everything I want...so, I use some canned goods from Walmart grocery store...and only a few (and I mean a few) items at Publix.
I've saved my last four checkout tickets...and the highest amount I've paid for moo juice at any Aldi's was $2.49...and the highest price for a dozen eggs was $0.75...you might consider locating your nearest Aldi's and do a major stock-up and make the trip there...you put a quarter in the buggy that you get back when you return the buggy (cart) to the buggy/cart stand...take your own grocery bags...nobody bags your groceries there...usually pay $0.49 per small can of soup there.
I believe it's worth it to go to an Aldi's if you've never been to one.

Agent Orange

I live north of Montgomery in Wetumpka. An Aldi's is being built here as we speak. I'll give them a shot.

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

I shop HEB with 6 percent points back American Express. My AMEX card has a $95 annual fee. Super market is all I use the card for. Doesn't work at Walmart. 1 percent back only. I use Barclay 2 percent cash back at Walmart, electric bill and Spectrum Cable. 3 percent cash back with Chase Business INK for gas, Home Depot, Lowe's, paint stores, Ace Hardware and eat out.

I won't buy a Dr Pepper and piece of pie without a points back card.

 

[AgentOrange2217]

SBI:
Your post was most instructive and caused me to think to ask you this question:
As you already know...ca$h has been all but taken out of circulation in Sweden...according to reports I have read...only about 3% of financial transactions are done/paid for in cash...as a matter of fact...most restaurants do not accept ca$h...so here's my question to you: where and how and when do you believe there could be/should be here in the USA more of a ca$hless society?...do you believe the trend is headed that way?...and would you be ok with that as long as you receive points back from your purchases using credit cards?..was wondering what you thought about the potential trend(s) of going ca$hless.

I often use a credit card for many purchases but do not use one for many purchases...I get 2% on points when used...I am suspicious (call me suspicious---I am) of anyone, any entity knowing all of my financial business and activities...hence, I go to the ATM and get ca$h...yes, they know I'm getting ca$h...but they do not know what I'm doing with it and what the ca$h is being used for...I'm thinking the days of ca$h may be limited..for when this might begin...I am not certain...but I would not be surprised if and when it should occur.

In between NSA, TSA, Google, Facebook, and surveillance cameras (and the IRS)...I believe I'm being watched and tracked enough as it is.

If you have any thoughts one way or the other...I'd appreciate a reply.

Agent Orange

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

Hispanics are a huge percentage of our population are very big into cash only. My all white adopted daughter in Fort Collins, CO and her Hewlett-Packard husband are big into cash only. I've tried to get kids to go my route but they're not receptive.

I believe we're still a cash dependent society to a large degree.

 

[BoxofFrogs]

If you live anywhere near Oxford, AL (right next to Anniston, AL)...you can go to the Aldi's there and get moo juice much cheaper than $3.70...have done that 3 times,myself in recent weeks...and none of the Aldi's in Birmingham that I have shopped at have had milk priced over $3.00...never once in my memory.
I paid $0.89 for a large loaf of honey wheat bread...that price has stayed the same for months.
Compared to Piggly Wiggly, Walmart grocery store, and Publix (the most expensive in my area)...I save approximately 45-50% shopping at Aldi's...however, Aldi's does not carry everything I want...so, I use some canned goods from Walmart grocery store...and only a few (and I mean a few) items at Publix.
I've saved my last four checkout tickets...and the highest amount I've paid for moo juice at any Aldi's was $2.49...and the highest price for a dozen eggs was $0.75...you might consider locating your nearest Aldi's and do a major stock-up and make the trip there...you put a quarter in the buggy that you get back when you return the buggy (cart) to the buggy/cart stand...take your own grocery bags...nobody bags your groceries there...usually pay $0.49 per small can of soup there.
I believe it's worth it to go to an Aldi's if you've never been to one.

Agent Orange

You're dead on when it comes to Aldi's. Publix is somewhat
high but i love their produce and vegetables. You have to be
careful when you go to Kroger's because half the time the
products they are selling are either out of date or right close
to being out of date. When it comes to milk i have to admit
that i am a milk snob and will only drink Weigels for $2.49
per gallon plus after you buy 16 gallons you get a free gallon.
Mayfields sells their milk for $6.00 a gallon. They can bite the
big one!Love Aldi's policy where if you buy a watermelon and
didn't like it, then all you have to do is tell them the watermelon
was below standards and they'll give you another one free of
charge. You don't even have to bring the old melon in. That's
how you're suppose to do business!

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

Food Lion opened their doors in Hewitt and Fort Worth just as ABC was doing their hit piece. They kept their doors open only a few months. I remember as a "professional tourist" seeing Food Lion trucks all over the southeast.

 

[BoxofFrogs]

Food Dawg as they're known around the Carolina's
was bleaching their fish. I also have a best friend who
is a meat dept. manager who got caught mixing and
grinding out of date hamburger meat with fresh hamburger
meat. This was in the same time period that Food Dawg got
caught bleaching their fish. My best friend got suspended for
3 weeks without pay for doing this. The sad part is, this is how he
was "TRAINED" to do it. When he went to the union to back him up
all he got was the union turning their back on him. I remember
when my wife would buy hamburger meat it would go bad in a two
day period. I asked my best friend why this was happening and
he would play the "I Don't Know" card. After he got caught mixing
the meat and got suspended i finally figured out why the hamburger
meat was going bad in a two day period. I also worked for 2
different food distributors in the restaurant business. The things
i witnessed were appalling! I seen first hand how the reefer
(refrigeration) units would go out while the product was being
delivered and the products would unthaw and the bossman
would tell the driver to try and sneak it past the kitchen manager.
Some folks wonder why they got sick or had the the chits after
eating out at a public restaurant. Folks!, it isn't ALWAYS the
restaurants fault!
Box could tell you folks some horror stories about the restaurant
business.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Lets remember what Venezuela was like before it decided to get 'progressive':

 

[BoxofFrogs]

Lets remember what Venezuela was like before it decided to get 'progressive':

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Dana is nothing but a whore dawg and a whore for the corporations!
Ghost must love whores!
I'd even be willing to bet that Dana let Ollie stick her!
Dana also worked on slick Willie's reelection campaign.
SUCK ON THAT!

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

Please. I read your apologist bullshit just fine. Ooohhh the diligence and industriousness of the rich. You know what wall street and Silicon Valley would be without taxpayer bailouts (i.e. our money)? Couple of smoking craters in the ground. We’re still bailing these people out with printed money while the rest of us pay $6 for milk. That doesn’t piss you off?

$6 for milk...you are a moron or you need to leave town...Great Value Milk @chinamart as some like to call it is $2.89/gal

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

I'd like to know how much we've spent on entitlements since LBJ and then I'd like to compare that number to the amount we've spent on bailouts over that same time frame.

Of course the entitlements are designed to pay out each year, more than the last year every year, without any real plan whatsoever for the madness to end.

Entitlements totaled ~ $2.5 trillion in 2018 ftr. To be fair Social Security is about $1 trillion of that total.

LBJs worst society has spent at least $22T on social spending since its creation. It is why Nixon took us off the gold standard. See article written in 2014 scaled out to today it could be $25T spent and we are $23T in debt:

"As Robert Rector of Heritage Foundation wrote in January, if we judge Lyndon Johnson’s Great Society only by the dollars spent to improve the lives of the poor and near-poor, an astronomical $20 trillion, it was a success. Rector describes its dimensions:

The federal government runs more than 80-means tested programs that provide cash, food, housing, medical care and targeted social services to poor and low-income Americans.

Government spent $916 billion on these programs in 2012 alone, and roughly 100 million Americans received aid from at least one of them, at an average cost of $9,000 per recipient. (That figure doesn’t include Security or Medicare.)

Federal and state welfare spending, adjusted for inflation, is 16 times greater than it was in 1964."

No worst society NO $23T in debt! its the spending not the revenue.

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/2014/02/11/the-great-societys-great-cost/

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

If you live anywhere near Oxford, AL (right next to Anniston, AL)...you can go to the Aldi's there and get moo juice much cheaper than $3.70...have done that 3 times,myself in recent weeks...and none of the Aldi's in Birmingham that I have shopped at have had milk priced over $3.00...never once in my memory.
I paid $0.89 for a large loaf of honey wheat bread...that price has stayed the same for months.
Compared to Piggly Wiggly, Walmart grocery store, and Publix (the most expensive in my area)...I save approximately 45-50% shopping at Aldi's...however, Aldi's does not carry everything I want...so, I use some canned goods from Walmart grocery store...and only a few (and I mean a few) items at Publix.
I've saved my last four checkout tickets...and the highest amount I've paid for moo juice at any Aldi's was $2.49...and the highest price for a dozen eggs was $0.75...you might consider locating your nearest Aldi's and do a major stock-up and make the trip there...you put a quarter in the buggy that you get back when you return the buggy (cart) to the buggy/cart stand...take your own grocery bags...nobody bags your groceries there...usually pay $0.49 per small can of soup there.
I believe it's worth it to go to an Aldi's if you've never been to one.

Agent Orange

Although my wife is employed at ChinaMart we too shop at Aldis, Food Lion and even Krogers for items on sale. Publix is for BOGOs or quality. SAMs Club has deals on Bulk items.

 

[Dr. Curmudgeon]

You guys are some real saps. The self reliance of the wealthy? Lol. How about the bank bailouts and money the feds been printing for the last 30 years. Keep licking boots kids. That trickle down will be here any minute!

I think the pipe dream that the middle class will receive distributed wealth is laughable. Do you believe this nonsense?

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

I think the pipe dream that the middle class will receive distributed wealth is laughable. Do you believe this nonsense?

He does. Plus he believes that Trump is on Putin's payroll, and is about 90% convinced that AOC is right about cow farts killing the planet in 12 years.

He's also convinced that the people that voted for Hillary are the smart ones and the Trump supporters are the dummies.

Obviously.

 

[Dr. Curmudgeon]

He does. Plus he believes that Trump is on Putin's payroll, and is about 90% convinced that AOC is right about cow farts killing the planet in 12 years.

He's also convinced that the people that voted for Hillary are the smart ones and the Trump supporters are the dummies.

Obviously.

That's really alarming. AOC is like a 12 year being elected to congress.

 

[BoxofFrogs]

You guys are some real saps. The self reliance of the wealthy? Lol. How about the bank bailouts and money the feds been printing for the last 30 years. Keep licking boots kids. That trickle down will be here any minute!

Kinda reminds me of the college loans my sister received way back in the 70's
She received her master's degree in special education instead of missionary work wok.

 

[DGlockUF]

@GhostOfMatchesMalone or anyone paying close attention,

Please explain this:

Over the last 30 years, the top 1% gained $21 trillion and the bottom 50% lost $900 billion.

We've been had.

Our Children's Futures are being stolen by the rich because they bought Our elected officials.

The only Leaders we should be electing are those that don't take the corporate $.

BOTH parties have sold Us out to the Oligarchy/Corporatists/Establishment.

Fighting each other only helps the profiteers.

We Must Unify and all #VOTE in 2020.

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

No surprise here. Most Americanos strive to get the money out of his pocket into the pocket of someone else.

 

[AgentOrange2217]

The day folks stop voting against their own best interests will be the day things start to turn around...but with two woeful parties to vote for...the odds are slim-to-none at best...people love voting for moar war, moar death(s), more human displacement, moar taxes, moar congresscritter(s) sabotaging them at every turn, and moar fake news, and moar corporatism run amok.

I mean after all...what could possibly go wrong?

When you have to vote between one pile of schit against another pile of schit?

Plenty of choices that you're given.

Agent Orange