Anyone following what is happening at Mizzou?

[GatorGray]

Players are threatening to "strike" their upcoming game vs BYU if the University president doesn't resign. That game is supposed to be played in Arrowhead and would cost the university $1mil+ if they don't play. Pinkel has publicly supported them.

Now they have posted a list of "Demands". HERE. This is getting ugly.

 

[gatorrocks]

Hope all them get kicked off the team.

 

[keyzer soze]

The university cannot give in to "demands" from ANY racial, ethnic, religious or social group of any kind for any reason. Those students attend the University of Missouri on their own volition and are free to leave and seek education elsewhere at any time.
It's a slippery slope. Give in to these "demands" now and who's demanding what next?

 

[GatorTheo]

Hope all them get kicked off the team.

The university will cave.

 

[Rushie]

The university will cave.

I will certainly be surprised if they do not.

 

[keyzer soze]

I will certainly be surprised if they do not.

I guess if that's the case then I should go enroll in Mizzou with a bunch of my buddies. We can start protesting against mistreatment of old farts and demand new boats and a sweet 401k fund

 

[30-24]

Players are threatening to "strike" their upcoming game vs BYU if the University president doesn't resign. That game is supposed to be played in Arrowhead and would cost the university $1mil+ if they don't play. Pinkel has publicly supported them.

Now they have posted a list of "Demands". HERE. This is getting ugly.

Just some nefarious displacement activity to have when you are having a down football year......IMO

 

[LizardGrad89]

The university will cave.

The university will come up with a compromise that saves face. Well. some face.

 

[EvilWayz]

"Tim Wolfe must acknowledge his white male privilege, "

CEASE THIS ******RY AT ONCE.

I'll tell y'all what, if MY race had pretty much conquered the entire world, not only would I not be sorry for my privilege but I'd be walking around all day giving minorities the finger. Sadly, my people have only conquered the world of IT. *sadpanda*

 

[sadgator]

Man, whoever thought there would be an SEC state worse than Mississippi? Holy cow. Note to self, never drive through or stop in Missouri.

 

[Rushie]

"Tim Wolfe must acknowledge his white male privilege, "

CEASE THIS ******RY AT ONCE.

I'll tell y'all what, if MY race had pretty much conquered the entire world, not only would I not be sorry for my privilege but I'd walking around all day giving minorities the finger. Sadly, my people have only conquered the world of IT. *sadpanda*

Yep...item 1 on the list of demands.

Just another version of "You didnt build that!" Except the latter was directed at rich and upper class while the former is for anyone of caucasian decent who dares stray from approved groupthink.

 

[gatorshime]

Tell them they have a scholarship to play football and if they don't then they pay all expenses A/O.

Plus it's now said that all blacks on the team dont support team. Of they were 8-0 it wouldn't happen.

 

[46885]

lol this is hysterical... People think they can cry about things for the wrong reason

 

[Rushie]

Hysterical is one word for it. And it's not just at Mizzou....although theirs is probably the most high-profile right now. Just watched a YouTube video of a Yale student berating and cussing a professor/administrator...something to do with potentially offensive Halloween costumes. Yale also dealing with allegations SAE frat held a "white girls only" party.....of course no evidence to support, just hearsay. In typical fashion Yale Pres has already folded like a cheap lawn chair and issued an apology to those who feel "hurt" or "unsafe."

 

[alaskanseminole]

If I disagree with this list of demands, am I a racist?

 

[Rushie]

If I disagree with this list of demands, am I a racist?

That you even had to ask proves you are.

 

[alaskanseminole]

That you even had to ask proves you are.

 

[djegators]

Just for clarity, this is just how ridiculous the whole thing is.


Butler claimed that a state law that prevents Planned Parenthood from conducting abortions on campus is an act of “racism.” In two other instances, Butler said that hazy rumors that some unknown and unidentified man yelled a racist comment from a passing truck and that a swastika was drawn in a dormitory bathroom in human feces—the latter a likely hoax—contributed to an atmosphere where students can’t “achieve their full academic potential.”

“I already feel like campus is an unlivable space,” the student proclaimed. “So it’s worth sacrificing something of this grave amount, because I’m already not wanted here. I’m already not treated like I’m a human.”

Even though Butler acknowledged that President Wolfe had nothing to do with these mysterious acts of “racism,” the student leader is still demanding that Wolfe resign or be fired apparently for not stopping such things.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...campus/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social

 

[passoverGator]

So unless the poop swastika is real, all this is for nothing. Good grief.

 

[alaskanseminole]

So unless the poop swastika is real, all this is for nothing. Good grief.

and the University President allowed, condoned, or committed the act himself.

 

[MJWilliamson]

Missouri has played as though most of the team has been on strike for much of the year.

 

[G8RMark]

Faculty is now saying they stand behind the students and will also walk out.

 

[danoleman]

and the University President allowed, condoned, or committed the act himself.

Sounds more like a culture of racism that has been around and tolerated for a long time. You know it's serious if these athletes are taking steps like this. I'll sit back and just watch how this one plays out.

 

[oozie7]

I haven't followed this that much but where does the president come in? I guess that's the part I'm confused, they want him fired because some people might be racist? I don't get it. I also don't get why you starving yourself should be of concern to anybody. My response would be "LOL, cool." If you think a campus is racist why not just leave? I can't this social justice warrior bullshit.

 

[EvilWayz]

“So it’s worth sacrificing something of this grave amount, because I’m already not wanted here. I’m already not treated like I’m a human.”

This'un right here needs to spend a weekend in Raiford. Try a cell in confinement out, let him find out what a real un-liveable space looks like. He don't have a clue what it's like to be treated like he ain't human.

 

[MJWilliamson]

Just heard that Wolfe resigned

 

[NavigatorII]

I can't fathom something like this happening at any other SEC school. Sounds like something you'd read about at UC Berkeley. Maybe it's an excuse for the players to go ahead and mail in the season. Political statements have no place in sports, whether real or contrived. That's why we have the Olympics.

 

[METSWIN]

The continued Pusscification of America. Minority voice screams....the media jumps through their ass to make it a huge news event.

 

[danoleman]

Just heard that Wolfe resigned

He did indeed. Without knowing the full details, it's hard to believe that so many would support the students if there was not really something systematic going on. We shall see.

 

[Uniformed_ReRe]

I don't blame him for resigning. It sounds like he's being scapegoated for a whole cornucopia of complex issues that he doesn't really have much control over. No salary is worth that.

 

[GatorGray]

His resignation sets a bad precedent. It took all of about 24 hours to get it. With that kind of success, this isn't the last we will see of such tactics.

 

[Uniformed_ReRe]

You can expect similar things to happen at other schools. I don't see why Missouri is exceptional. The combination of a new demographic youth bubble and increasing polarization and polemics in the media and politics guarantees a plenty of tension for years to come.

This may sound dramatic, but I feel that the popularity of college football is about to go into steep decline.

There are too many headwinds: it's "too violent," players are being "exploited" and/or misogynistic, and then there is the issue of cord-cutting among younger audiences. ESPN doesn't want to unbundle because it means less money in the short-term, but the longer they wait, the more young people will have come of age having barely watched any football and feeling no emotional connection to it.

School are partly at fault for engaging in this game of recruiting athletes who could never qualify academically, resulting in parallel academic systems where you have "real students" side-by-side with a separate academic track for football players who take joke courses and have tutors all but do their work for them. If standards were not lowered to such a ridiculous extent, there wouldn't be this discussion of "exploitation" and college football would not be the grotesque spectacle that it has become.

Sorry for the digressive rant, but it felt good to get that out

 

[instaGATOR]

Research the Bear Bryant solution and it's many outcomes....

 

[CompuGator]

Just heard that Wolfe resigned

Yes. Announcement confirmed by a press conference that's already been held today.

Maybe he's already financially set for a comfy retirement, and he considers his remaining years of life too short to tolerate this trouble that'll surely make new demands after whatever satisfies the current demands. Or maybe he's just a wimp. Right now, I have insufficient info for deciding.

Be that as it might, I encourage readers to go right to the source, instead of meekly accepting "news" that's filtered thro' more-or-less "mainstream" news media: So I recommend The Maneater[*] Web site's main report:<http://www.themaneater.com/stories/2015/11/9/wolfe-announces-resignation-um-system-president/>

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Note *: <http://www.themaneater.com> identifies itself as "The Maneater student newspaper", using a surprisingly green serifed "M" as its logo. I assume that its name is derived from the now politically-incorrect phrase "Maneating Tiger".

<http://www.themaneater.com/workforus/>:

The Maneater is eager to welcome any new staff member, regardless of previous experience or college major. In other words, you don't have to be a (pre-)journalism major nor do you have to have worked for a newspaper before. Our staff stem from a diversity of backgrounds and vary in involvement level. [....] As an official but independent student paper of MU, The Maneater is funded solely by advertisements, and students control all editorial aspects of the content and production process. As such, The Maneater experiences a relatively quick staff turnover, meaning we're always enthused to see new, rising talent.​

 

[Rushie]

I can't fathom something like this happening at any other SEC school. Sounds like something you'd read about at UC Berkeley. Maybe it's an excuse for the players to go ahead and mail in the season. Political statements have no place in sports, whether real or contrived. That's why we have the Olympics.

Why? It's not like this is the first witch hunt/attempted lynching.......yes, I meant to use the word lynching.....we've seen on a college campus. Prez is out at Mizzou. I expect the 2 under fire at Yale to pack it in soon. Rolling Stone/UVa gang rape last year. Duke lacrosse team.

These cases aren't about finding the truth and taking appropriate actions......it's about power and control. And in struggles like these, sacrifices must be made. Whatever happened to the Duke lacrosse coach? Think he got an apology from anyone at Duke? Bull**** he was in the way.

 

[NavigatorII]

Why? It's not like this is the first witch hunt/attempted lynching.......yes, I meant to use the word lynching.....we've seen on a college campus. Prez is out at Mizzou. I expect the 2 under fire at Yale to pack it in soon. Rolling Stone/UVa gang rape last year. Duke lacrosse team.

These cases aren't about finding the truth and taking appropriate actions......it's about power and control. And in struggles like these, sacrifices must be made. Whatever happened to the Duke lacrosse coach? Think he got an apology from anyone at Duke? Bull**** he was in the way.

It probably won't be long before have a 24 team playoff with an invitation to half of them invited due to "weakness of schedule" and a participation trophy will be given to all.

 

[djegators]

Can happen anywhere...the colleges and universities are the seminaries and temples of the leftists.

 

[djegators]

I don't blame him for resigning. It sounds like he's being scapegoated for a whole cornucopia of complex issues that he doesn't really have much control over. No salary is worth that.

He has no balls, he should have made them fire him, he did nothing wrong.

 

[ifuaintagatorumustbegatorbait]

I don't think precedent has been set. I truly believe this is a very unique situation, in which systematic racism has inundated this particular campus for an extended period of time.

I don't think this was an isolated occurrence of someone just saying something insensitive. This strikes me as a knowingly unsafe environment in which minorities were discriminated against and marginalized.

I personally think the players handled this situation very well. If you feel the admin is turning a blind eye to your concerns and you feel you have exhausted all avenues for resolution, some extremes may be warranted.

If I'm not mistaken this president acknowledged being indifferent to their concerns. The fact the the faculty was proactively supporting the players tells me alot. Obviously there will always be racism, because it's a choice and people can choose to be racist. With that said, I firmly believe that ANY president of a university absolutely will not survive being unresponsive to systematic racism and discrimination.

His choice to remain silent cost him this cushy job, not any action on his part.

 

[danoleman]

I don't think precedent has been set. I truly believe this is a very unique situation, in which systematic racism has inundated this particular campus for an extended period of time.

I don't think this was an isolated occurrence of someone just saying something insensitive. This strikes me as a knowingly unsafe environment in which minorities were discriminated against and marginalized.

I personally think the players handled this situation very well. If you feel the admin is turning a blind eye to your concerns and you feel you have exhausted all avenues for resolution, some extremes may be warranted.

If I'm not mistaken this president acknowledged being indifferent to their concerns. The fact the the faculty was proactively supporting the players tells me alot. Obviously there will always be racism, because it's a choice and people can choose to be racist. With that said, I firmly believe that ANY president of a university absolutely will not survive being unresponsive to systematic racism and discrimination.

His choice to remain silent cost him this cushy job, not any action on his part.

This!! You know it had to be something going on that was serious if the players took this stance. The students had the support of the faculty, the AD, the head football coach and 30plus players. This was a culture that was deeply rooted and apparently not addressed by the president.