Anthony Richardson in the Florida run game - Does Miller's Injury Change How AR Plays?

[Gator Fever]

WR Route Tree

Flat -- The flat route is a basic, quick out-breaking route. It is typically a route run by a slot receiver, running back, or tight end, simply because it breaks out and a wide-out does not have the space on his outside for the break.

Slant -- The slant can be run from anywhere, and it can be run with either the initial vertical stem, or it can be run directly off the snap. The idea is to use quickness to get a step on the coverage, and use the inside break to put the receiver’s body between the quarterback and the defender. Slants are obviously quick routes, so look for the quarterback to get the ball out of his hand as fas as he can.

Comeback -- Another out-breaking route, though this one can be used by outside receivers assuming they know how to use the sideline. This is the "back-shoulder throw" route popular in today’s passing game, with a quarterback having to show off his arm strength on the route.

Curl -- The route tree is built with opposite breaks throughout most of the diagram. In this case, the curl route is the opposite of the comeback, with the receiver breaking back toward the inside of the field. You can often see the curl and the comeback be option routes from each other, depending on how the defender plays the receiver, meaning the quarterback and receiver have to be on the same page.

Out -- You again will see a quarterback showing off his arm strength on this out-breaking route, and this is one of the routes most college scouts want to see fro prospective quarterbacks. This route is run at about 10-15 yards down the field most of the time, and again requires space on the outside for the break. This is typically the route you will see where the receiver is catching the pass on the sideline as he falls straight forward with this toes staying in bounds.

In / Dig -- Whichever name you give to this route, it is the opposite of the out route, with the receiver breaking in toward the middle of the field. This is a route-runners route (whatever that means) - where precision is important, and being able to make a crisp cut is important, providing the separation a receiver needs to get open.

Corner -- Starting to reach the deeper routes now, the corner route is a out-breaking route that is run toward - get this - the corner. The route is often used to create space underneath by pulling the safety out of the middle of the field.

Post -- The opposite of the corner route, the post breaks toward the middle of the field on an angle. Again, this is attacking the safeties on the field, often looking to split multiple defensive backs. This can be the type of route where the receiver adjusts to a ball the quarterback has laid out deep down the middle of the field.

Fly -- Go deep. This is where a speed receiver makes his money. Also a "go" route, that is exactly what this route is, run as fast as you can deep and try to get some separation from the defender. Quarterbacks can also use the back-shoulder throw here, allowing for a receiver to turn back to the ball as the defender runs past him.

I'll leave the other routes and combo routes out, to make things easier on those that want to actually attempt to evaluate Brown's passing ability. (Slugo/Drag/Bubble/etc)

Now, which of those 9 basic routes does Brown throw in that highlight film?
Any that he does not throw, or does a poor job on?
Is there anyone with even the minor/slight ability to watch, take a couple of notes, and then answer the questions and give your own QB evaluation on Brown???

Show me the throws on that film he is likely to get in college? What % of them do you think would happen anything like that in an SEC game? He may turn out to be real good but the more I see his film the more it shows there may need to be a large learning curve with Brown because he got away with his legs buying him time to get easy throws. Even though Trask was stuck behind King who was a top high school QB he had a lot of plays on film that showed he could make the throws required in college while under pressure. I remember looking at his film saying he looked like he can make the difficult throws in high school despite being a backup because of that King situation.

 

[instaGATOR]

I watched Browns tape above and it's hard to say a lot except he can run good for a QB since he runs to buy time and gets good situations to pass because of it. As far as passing I like to see tape where there is pressure on them as they are passing like they will get in college. I would call him a big unknown at this point until I see him in a spring game etc.

Having to spoon feed the blind/ignorant is tiring, but it seems that I'll have to do it as a sort of mercy killing....

Browns Film:

1st Play - Almost sacked by the big rush from the unblocked/released WDE.
Rolls out of the tackle, escapes and sprints out to the left.
Is forced back and rolls back across the field to the right, keeping his eyes downfield.
On the run, he makes a cross body throw back to the left to a WR coming open in the back of the endzone.
That was a 30+ yard perfect, off balance cross body throw on the run, for a TD.

2nd Play - A run/option fake to the RB, then rolls out to the right.
While rolling, makes a perfect corner route throw of 30+ yards for a TD.

3rd Play - Fakes an end-around handoff, then from the pocket he hits a Fly to that same WR of 50+ yards for a TD.

4th Play - Run/option fake to RB, rolls slightly left and hits the slot receiver on an out route inside the 10 yard line.

5th Play - From his own 25 yard line, a designed QB Run he takes off RT for a 75 yard TD run. (AR couldn't have done it any better)

Go do the rest of those plays, one by one for yourselves, and really look at how he's playing, instead of just continuing to talk your biased closed minded/blind BS....

Over the course of his film, he makes about every kind of throw that he'd ever be asked to throw in college, and he could have gotten a ship on just his RB abilities.
Rushing - 7.9 ypc, 1,343 yds, 20 TD's to 1 LPF on 179 runs.
Passing - 71.1% 41 TD's, 4 Ints -- That would be exceptional if it was on AIR....

This kid has a chance to be better than Heisman Finalists Trask or Leak.
He might be pushing the Spurrier/Wuerffel/Tebow type of legacy before it's over.

And here's a prediction for ya on the new HC.
Napier will be known for his time at UF, by how he develops and uses Max Brown. He'll either be famous or infamous, depending.... If he sticks with his home-boy Miller instead of developing Brown, then woe be to him for demonstrating huge incompetence and a lack of foresight. It will be the difference between getting stranded on a sand bar, or having smooth sailing ahead... Of course, JMOHO's....

I get nothing if I'm correct, and nothing but abuse here if I'm incorrect, but it will be much worse for Billy if he gets something this big,,, wrong.... 😎

 

[Gator Fever]

Having to spoon feed the blind/ignorant is tiring, but it seems that I'll have to do it as a sort of mercy killing....

Browns Film:

1st Play - Almost sacked by the big rush from the unblocked/released WDE.
Rolls out of the tackle, escapes and sprints out to the left.
Is forced back and rolls back across the field to the right, keeping his eyes downfield.
On the run, he makes a cross body throw back to the left to a WR coming open in the back of the endzone.
That was a 30+ yard perfect, off balance cross body throw on the run, for a TD.

2nd Play - A run/option fake to the RB, then rolls out to the right.
While rolling, makes a perfect corner route throw of 30+ yards for a TD.

3rd Play - Fakes an end-around handoff, then from the pocket he hits a Fly to that same WR of 50+ yards for a TD.

4th Play - Run/option fake to RB, rolls slightly left and hits the slot receiver on an out route inside the 10 yard line.

5th Play - From his own 25 yard line, a designed QB Run he takes off RT for a 75 yard TD run. (AR couldn't have done it any better)

Go do the rest of those plays, one by one for yourselves, and really look at how he's playing, instead of just continuing to talk your biased closed minded/blind BS....

Over the course of his film, he makes about every kind of throw that he'd ever be asked to throw in college, and he could have gotten a ship on just his RB abilities.
Rushing - 7.9 ypc, 1,343 yds, 20 TD's to 1 LPF on 179 runs.
Passing - 71.1% 41 TD's, 4 Ints -- That would be exceptional if it was on AIR....

This kid has a chance to be better than Heisman Finalists Trask or Leak.
He might be pushing the Spurrier/Wuerffel/Tebow type of legacy before it's over.

And here's a prediction for ya on the new HC.
Napier will be known for his time at UF, by how he develops and uses Max Brown. He'll either be famous or infamous, depending.... If he sticks with his home-boy Miller instead of developing Brown, then woe be to him for demonstrating huge incompetence and a lack of foresight. It will be the difference between getting stranded on a sand bar, or having smooth sailing ahead... Of course, JMOHO's....

I get nothing if I'm correct, and nothing but abuse here if I'm incorrect, but it will be much worse for Billy if he gets something this big,,, wrong.... 😎

Your descriptions almost makes the same points. He is a big unknown and has to show it under a college type of situation. Maybe he will but there isn't much in his highlights to show if he can or not. Most likely a redshirt with potential. If he is a quick learner should quickly go to 2nd string at least in the spring if Richardson departs.

 

[ocalaman]

My uneducated guess is that, barring an injury, Napier wants to redshirt Brown. Kitna & Miller will be the back-ups to AR and Brown will learn and develop. Of course, I'm just speculating.

 

[instaGATOR]

Obviously, none of us knows what's going on in Billy's mind, except what he let's leak out now and then in the form of close to the vest or misleading 'coach-speak.'
(I don't blame him for that btw)

My take on the QB starter and depth chart for 2022:
AR healthy and getting it done, nothing else matters on the QB depth chart. It would be good to get Brown a little 'mop-up' time as a tFr near the end of the season, but not essential.

AR injured or ineffective, and it becomes what do you want for this season.
If Miller/Kitna/Engel, then it's mostly a write it off season imo.
IF Brown was 'coached up' and put in the game, then there's a chance to mostly save the season, 8-10 wins.
I obviously have a lot of faith in Brown's upside and future.

When Spring 2023 comes around, (unless AR remains) Brown will be like AR is now, the obvious choice. If AR stays, then Brown is #2 for 2023.
And that includes if #17 QB-dt Storkes **** is an EE...
If he's an EE, he could easily be the #2-3 QB, depending on AR going/staying.

I think that both Kitna and Miller will xfer out sometime between now and the Fall of 2023, but just guessing. I can't see either of them ever being the starter, except in some kind of emergency. Nothing personal, this is just the wrong system for either of them. Neither are dynamic runners, and that's a QB requirement imo, for this system/roster/team to be anywhere near championship caliber...

An interesting football season is about to begin for us fans...

 

[Gator Fever]

I like hearing the starting defense has apparently held up against the run well in practice. Just curious who we see mostly playing that other DT spot besides Dexter.

 

[Jeff from Jax]

I like hearing the starting defense has apparently held up against the run well in practice. Just curious who we see mostly playing that other DT spot besides Dexter.

Fever,

14 minutes of media observation time isn't much - but the last I saw the other DT slot waould have several pieces.

Starters: Gervon Dexter (DL), Jalen Lee (DT), Princely Umanmielen (DE)​

Brenton Cox Jr (Edge)

Rotational Pieces: Tyreak Sapp (DE), Justus Boone (DE), Desmond Watson (DT), Chris McClellan (DT)​

Interior defensive lineman Desmond Watson will be one of the frequent faces to assume a role at nose tackle. His ability to swallow holes in the middle will be a luxury for the Gators on early downs and short yardage situations,
although his over 400-pound frame won’t allow him to play more than 25-30 snaps per game.

Despite what other posters say / hope - Watson has made basically no effort to lose any weight.
From what I hear he will mostly play in short yardage situations.

McClellan likely to pick up most of the 2nd team snaps for 3 man alignment & when in 4 man alignment - a mix of the 4 interior DL depending on field position, who needs rest, etc.

https://www.si.com/college/florida/...rs-depth-chart-projection-defensive-line-2022

 

[Gator Fever]

Fever,

14 minutes of media observation time isn't much - but the last I saw the other DT slot waould have several pieces.

Starters: Gervon Dexter (DL), Jalen Lee (DT), Princely Umanmielen (DE)​

Brenton Cox Jr (Edge)

Rotational Pieces: Tyreak Sapp (DE), Justus Boone (DE), Desmond Watson (DT), Chris McClellan (DT)​

Interior defensive lineman Desmond Watson will be one of the frequent faces to assume a role at nose tackle. His ability to swallow holes in the middle will be a luxury for the Gators on early downs and short yardage situations,
although his over 400-pound frame won’t allow him to play more than 25-30 snaps per game.

Despite what other posters say / hope - Watson has made basically no effort to lose any weight.
From what I hear he will mostly play in short yardage situations.

McClellan likely to pick up most of the 2nd team snaps for 3 man alignment & when in 4 man alignment - a mix of the 4 interior DL depending on field position, who needs rest, etc.

https://www.si.com/college/florida/...rs-depth-chart-projection-defensive-line-2022

I bet McClellan makes makes a big move next season if he was competing for that spot as a true freshman

 

[instaGATOR]

Just a FYI....

Linebackers - How some are calling the depth chart:

ILB Ventrell Miller 6-0 221 6th Yr rsSr
ILB Derek Wingo 6-1 226 So

ILB Amari Burney 6-2 228 5th Yr Sr
ILB Shemar James 6-1 230 Fr

Rotationals:
ILB/Nic Diwun Black 6-3 223 Jr (passing down specialist, TE's?)
ILB James 'Scooby' Williams 6-2 235 rsFr (blitzer)

Depth:
Kenny Anyaehie 6-0 224 rsJr
Justin Pelic 5-11 220 rsSo
==========

The OLB's and WDE's are deep and somewhat interchangeable...

OLB/BUCK Brenton Cox Jr 6-3 252 rsJr
OLB David Reese 6-1 238 rsJr
OLB Lloyd Summerall III 6-5 231 rsSo
OLB/BUCK Antwaun Powell-Ryland Jr 6-3 243 So (looking like #2 BUCK)
OLB Jack Pyburn 6-3 263 Fr
OLB Andrew Savaiinaea 6-3 261 Fr
OLB Bryce Capers 6-3 231 Fr

SDE Princely Umanmieien 6-5 245 So
DE Tyrek Sapp 6-3 263 rsFr
DE Justus Boone 6-4 260 rsFr
DE TJ Murphy 6-4 231 Fr

 

[Gator Fever]

Just a FYI....

Linebackers - How some are calling the depth chart:

ILB Ventrell Miller 6th Yr rsSr
ILB Derek Wingo 6-1 226 So

ILB Amari Burney 6-2 228 5th Yr Sr
ILB Shemar James 6-1 230 Fr

Rotationals:
ILB/Nic Diwun Black 6-3 223 Jr (passing down specialist, TE's?)
ILB James 'Scooby' Williams 6-2 235 rsFr (blitzer)

Depth:
Kenny Anyaehie 6-0 224 rsJr
Justin Pelic 5-11 220 rsSo
==========

The OLB's and WDE's are deep and somewhat interchangeable...

OLB/BUCK Brenton Cox Jr 6-3 252 rsJr
OLB David Reese 6-1 238 rsJr
OLB Lloyd Summerall III 6-5 231 rsSo
OLB/BUCK Antwaun Powell-Ryland Jr 6-3 243 So (looking like #2 BUCK)
OLB Jack Pyburn 6-3 263 Fr
OLB Andrew Savaiinaea 6-3 261 Fr
OLB Bryce Capers 6-3 231 Fr

SDE Princely Umanmieien 6-5 245 So
DE Tyrek Sapp 6-3 263 rsFr
DE Justus Boone 6-4 260 rsFr
DE TJ Murphy 6-4 231 Fr

Utah loves passing to their TEs so Black may get in there a bit.

 

[instaGATOR]

Finding the replacing CB for Kaiir's after his departure to the 1st Rnd NFL.

SI's guess, as the actual starters have not been announced by Napier:

CB Jason Marshall Jr 6-1 198 So will replace Kaiir.
CB/Star Jordan Young 6-0 192 rsFr will replace Marshall.

The solid rotational depth will shift around and evolve across the season.

CB/Star Devin Moore 6-3 198 Fr
CB Avery Helm 6-1 170 So
CB Jalen Kimber 6-0 178 rsSo - UG xfer
CB Ethan Pouncey 6-1 168 So
CB Jaydon Hill 6-0 181 rsSo -- still rehabbing injury.
==========

TE Kemore Gamble 6-4 243 - departs for UCF in portal
TE Gage Wilcox rsFr - career ending injury

TE/H-B Keon Zipper 6-1 246 Jr ****
TE Jonathan Odom 6-5 237 So - torn labrum, out for Spring
TE Nick Elksnis 6-6 234 rsFr - broken scapula, out for Spring
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This resulted in shifting players from defense to offense.
TE/DE Dante Zanders 6-5 262 rsJr
TE/DT/OL Griffin McDowell 6-4 288 rsJr
TE/OLB Noah Keeter 6-5 230 rsSo
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Headed for redshirts with limited (4 Gms) participation.
TE-y/WR Arlis Boardingham 6-3 235 Fr **** (HS Jr - 11.4 100M)
TE-h/QB Hayden Hansen 6-6 256 Fr ***
TE Scott Isacks III 6-4 248 Fr - PWO - B-Ball & Track
TE/OT Tony Livingston - Had an injury that led Florida's coaching staff to greyshirt him. Livingston is expected to join the Gators in the spring of 2023.

247's projected TE depth chart:

TE-Y 11 Man - Dante Zanders - Keon Zipperer - Nick Elksnis - Noah Keeter
TE-H 12 Man - Keon Zipperer - Jon Odom - Griffin McDowell

The iG likes Elksnis and Keeter as TE/WR types, Big Plays and redzone, in the shadow of Pitts.
While I like Zanders, Zipperer, and Odom as blockers and dependable possession receivers.

 

[ocalaman]

Florida preseason redshirt projections

The Gators have 17 scholarship true freshmen on their roster, some of whom are unlikely to redshirt despite their lack of experience

247sports.com

 

[instaGATOR]

Safeties:

SS Rashad Torrence II 6-0 202 So
SS Kamari Wilson 6-0 209 Fr
SS Miguel Mitchell 6-1 203 Fr
(3 guys that can & will, light you up)

Star/Nic/CB

Trevez Johnson 5-11 194 So - Better run stopper
Jadarrius Perkins 6-0 186 Jr - Better in coverage
Kamar Wilcoxson 6-1 193 rsFr - talented but missed 2021 injured
Dakota Mitchell 5-11 180 rsFr - (needs nutrition bars & weight room)

FS Trey Dean 6-3 207 Sr
FS Donovan McMillon 6-1 205 So
FS Corey Collier Jr 6-1 179 rsFr (needs nutrition bars & weight room)

Depth in waiting:
Cahron Rackley 5-10 189 rsFr
Cruz Rushing 6-0 194 Fr
Javion Toombs 5-11 181 Fr
==========

K - Trey Smack 6-1 200 Fr - Kickoffs & FG's/X-Pts
K - Adam Mihalek 6-2 193 rsFr - FG's & X-Pts
K - Travis Freeman 5-11 203 rsSo

P - Jeremy Crawshaw 6-4 198 So - 44.1 Ave
P - Jacob Watkins 6-1 203 rsSr
P - Jack Brady 5-11 190 rsSo
P - Tyler Waxman 5-9 171 rsSo

LS - Marco Ortiz 6-4 236 rsJr - Zero muffed smaps
LS - Rocco Underwood 6-3 220 rsFr
LS - Chase Whitfield 6-0 246 rsSo

PR - RB Trevor Etienne 5-9 217 Fr
KR - WR Xzavier Henderson 6-3 195 So - HS 4.55/40, & 400-M State Champ

 

[instaGATOR]

WR Justin Shorter rsJr
WR Xzavier Henderson rsSo
WR Trent Whittemore rsJr
WR Ricky Pearsall Jr slot - AzSt xfer
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Jordan Pouncey rsSr
WR Ja'Quavion Fraziars Jr
WR Ja'Markis Weston rsSo
WR Thai Chiaokhiao-Bowman So - JuCo xfer
WR Marcus Burke rsFr
WR Daejon Reynolds rsFr
WR Kahieil Jackson rsFr
WR Caleb Douglas Fr
=======

Unofficial Projected Depth Chart & Possible Positions:

WR-x -- Shorter - Fraziars - Burke or Douglas - Jackson

WR-z -- Henderson or Whittemore - Weston - Pouncey

WR-y Slot - Pearsall - Reynolds or Chi-Bowman

Depth Extras:
Justin Curtis Sr
Daniel Cross rsJr
William Sawyer rsSo
Taylor Spierto rsFr
Alex Gonzalez Fr
Zak Sedaros Fr

 

[instaGATOR]

Smart Football begins here:

Heading into his debut as head coach at Florida, Billy Napier has continued to emphasize, both publicly and privately, the importance of self-discipline within the program. Including which bits of information are divulged in the week leading up to the season opener. Even inquiries regarding the X’s and O’s of the opposition were deflected casually and swiftly.

As were the latest attempts to learn where things stood from a player-usage standpoint. “I feel like that's more of a question for Coach Napier,” Dante Zanders, asked to give his opinion of what stands out about Utah, said. “I apologize.”

Throughout the preseason, the Gators haven’t engaged in much discussion regarding a depth chart or a prospective starting unit; aside from Anthony Richardson and the status of several offensive linemen, little is known when it comes to who will line up for the first snap on either side of the ball.

 

[Gator Fever]

Smart Football begins here:

Heading into his debut as head coach at Florida, Billy Napier has continued to emphasize, both publicly and privately, the importance of self-discipline within the program. Including which bits of information are divulged in the week leading up to the season opener. Even inquiries regarding the X’s and O’s of the opposition were deflected casually and swiftly.

As were the latest attempts to learn where things stood from a player-usage standpoint. “I feel like that's more of a question for Coach Napier,” Dante Zanders, asked to give his opinion of what stands out about Utah, said. “I apologize.”

Throughout the preseason, the Gators haven’t engaged in much discussion regarding a depth chart or a prospective starting unit; aside from Anthony Richardson and the status of several offensive linemen, little is known when it comes to who will line up for the first snap on either side of the ball.

Do you think the starting lineup is really much of a mystery? Not sure what formation we will line up in on offense that first snap but what do you think the starting lineup on offense and defense will be? With the offense what will it be if we start with 2 TEs and what would it be if we start with 1 TE.

 

[Gator Fever]

 

[gatorbuilderorlando]

I hope they dont' hold AR back for a couple of reasons. First - he may not get hurt lol. Second, most of his injuries in the past haven't been from bad hits, just weird hammy pulls and such. There's no way to predict those.

Lastly - if he does get hurt - it's year 1 of the new regime and most of the fanbase will give the coaches a pass.

There's almost no downside to letting AR go hard.

 

[Jeff from Jax]

I hope they dont' hold AR back for a couple of reasons. First - he may not get hurt lol.

There's almost no downside to letting AR go hard.

GBO,

Plus, it's probably the only way we win any of the games against - Utah, KY, Tenn.

How we play in 1st four games will have a big influence on the rest of our season.

We don't beat TAMU or UGA but some of S Carolina, LSU, & FSU possible.

 

[instaGATOR]

I hope they dont' hold AR back for a couple of reasons. First - he may not get hurt lol. Second, most of his injuries in the past haven't been from bad hits, just weird hammy pulls and such. There's no way to predict those.

Lastly - if he does get hurt - it's year 1 of the new regime and most of the fanbase will give the coaches a pass.

There's almost no downside to letting AR go hard.

What words did Billy begin his UF HC'ing tenure with?

"Scared Money don't Make Money"

If he didn't let AR-15 run, he'd have to eat those words unsalted.... 🤓
And if you'd been paying closer attention, he's already said that he's going to let AR use all of his abilities....
~ Despite the 'Negative Jelly' they have a shot at beating everyone on the schedule, including aTm and UGly... Otherwise, why even play the games?

 

[gatorbuilderorlando]

What words did Billy begin his UF HC'ing tenure with?

"Scared Money don't Make Money"

If he didn't let AR-15 run, he'd have to eat those words unsalted.... 🤓
And if you'd been paying closer attention, he's already said that he's going to let AR use all of his abilities....
~ Despite the 'Negative Jelly' they have a shot at beating everyone on the schedule, including aTm and UGly... Otherwise, why even play the games?

/agreed

Without AR in top form we're a 6-7 win team imo. With AR we have maybe up to 9 wins if everything goes well. Play the guy!

Plus he may be in the NFL next year.

 

[instaGATOR]

/agreed

Without AR in top form we're a 6-7 win team imo. With AR we have maybe up to 9 wins if everything goes well. Play the guy!

Plus he may be in the NFL next year.

And all the more reason to get Max Brown some tFr reps while working him into the #2 backup QBdt role across the 2022 season...

 

[Gator Fever]

And all the more reason to get Max Brown some tFr reps while working him into the #2 backup QBdt role across the 2022 season...

He may get a few snaps in the Eastern Washington game. They will be hoping to get Miller a bunch of time in against South Florida.

 

[instaGATOR]

He may get a few snaps in the Eastern Washington game. They will be hoping to get Miller a bunch of time in against South Florida.

I'd be a little surprised if Miller makes it back that early, but we'll see....

 

[instaGATOR]

Richardson vs UU - 11 for 106 yds, 9.6 ypc, 3 TD's, L-45 😉

Who ya gonna call on if the main man goes down injured?

QB-dt Max Brown 6-2 200 HS Sr in 2021:
Rushing - 1,347 yds, 7.5 ypc, 20 TD's to 1 LPF on 179 runs.
If the recruit ranking services had a clue, he'd have been a 4-5 star on his RB abilities alone.... (passing 41 TD's to 4 Ints at 71%)