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[LordofallSocks]

No idea why the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, but I was unhappy they did., despite the fact that the left was conflating that this was outlawing abortion, which is nowhere near the truth.

I'm going to guess that it's because the left has screamed so loud and so long about social issues that the right does not give a shit about, when it comes down to brass tacks. I remember before the last election, my brother who is pretty reasonable usually said I just want to fighting to stop, regardless, who gets elected. Well that was never gonna happen. They screamed loud and long about Trump from the moment he was in the White House to the current day.. I think most of the country would like the lawlessness to disappear. And protesters to be held accountable for burning down buildings. Instead of getting long prison terms for this January 6 nonsense.. I want to talk about a double standard?

Are you serious? Because it was based on perjured testimony and a mythical right to privacy.

 

[FresnoGator]

Are you serious? Because it was based on perjured testimony and a mythical right to privacy.

I was unhappy they messed with it because it energized the left based on mostly misinformation ...

 

[LordofallSocks]

I was unhappy they messed with it because it energized the left based on mostly misinformation ...

kind if feel like that's on them for three reasons

1) if they'd gone with the commerce clause which actually has precedent instead of creating a weak precedent out of thin air it would have been fine

2) They had fifty years to pass a federal law

3) they love misinformation it wasn't about correcting a bad law it was about stomping on the rights of women.

 

[FresnoGator]

kind if feel like that's on them for three reasons

1) if they'd gone with the commerce clause which actually has precedent instead of creating a weak precedent out of thin air it would have been fine

2) They had fifty years to pass a federal law

3) they love misinformation it wasn't about correcting a bad law it was about stomping on the rights of women.

More than anything I just didn't like the timing of it. The Dems were kind of down and defeated, and this energized them. The other things were peripheral.

 

[NavigatorII]

How is project 2025 a lie? Trumps involvement with it?

Trump lies far more than anybody I have ever seen in American politics and its not close. And I am not a democrat. I am closer to Liz Cheney beliefs than I am Kamala Harris......but I don't bend the knee so that makes me a communist on here. You want to go back through the transcript of his last debate and count up the lies? There are guys you can google who have chronicled thousands of his lies. Honestly, its hard for me to understand anybody who doesn't immediately see that about him. First couple times I ever heard him speak was a turn off because I knew immediately he was bullshitting me. Frankly, I was surprised anybody believed him.

A lot of his lies are the type where everybody listening to him knows he is lying (like saying everybody wanted Roe v Wade to go back to the states, which he did several times in the last debate and it couldn't be more untrue)......so I used to wonder why he did it. Was it just ego "I can say whatever I want".........but I eventually realized/learned why he does it. Its really the brilliance of Trumps whole act..........everything he does he is trying to reach the "low engagement voters". He knows that the 25% or so of us who really pay attention to this stuff are almost impossible to sway......but the low engagement voter who could give a shit about politics and will only catch snippets here or there is easier to persuade. And that's why, IMO, you see the "white men without college degrees" being the biggest favorable voting block for Trump by a wide margin. Far more than the advantage Kamala has among women or Blacks. Its the only reason Trump is competitive. He gets something like 67% of that demographic. And he does it by constantly throwing them red meat in terms they can understand.

Lizzie Cheney is another cog in The Machine, the military industrial complex. Required reading for you. 1984. The Cheney's bread is buttered with Haliburton. I don't consider the NWO as patriotic whatsoever. The RINOs are controlled opposition for the Democrats, the puppet masters pull their strings. Trump is a real and present danger to bringing down their bullshit hierarchy. Start using your head for something other than a hat rack.

 

[NavigatorII]

You’re a poster child for a snowflake.

😂

Poor MDFer.

 

[gatordad3]

The UCONN hoops team has Groper Joe syndrome.


white boy basketball player: "asked us for a photo, totally ignored coach Hurley, and didn't understand a word he said."

 

[Mdfgator]

Nothing to run on? What about that Biden-Harris economy?

Are you better off than you were during the lockdown of 2020?? I am much better off it’s not even close. Of course I have a sizable set that doesn’t like to be flicked.

 

[NavigatorII]

Are you better off than you were during the lockdown of 2020?? I am much better off it’s not even close. Of course I have a sizable set that doesn’t like to be flicked.

If you were locked down, they made a mistake by letting you out. Diaper Joe's economy is pure failure. You aren't better off, you just have more devalued currency. 😂

 

[Illegal-shift]

How is project 2025 a lie? Trumps involvement with it?

Trump lies far more than anybody I have ever seen in American politics and its not close. And I am not a democrat. I am closer to Liz Cheney beliefs than I am Kamala Harris......but I don't bend the knee so that makes me a communist on here. You want to go back through the transcript of his last debate and count up the lies? There are guys you can google who have chronicled thousands of his lies. Honestly, its hard for me to understand anybody who doesn't immediately see that about him. First couple times I ever heard him speak was a turn off because I knew immediately he was bullshitting me. Frankly, I was surprised anybody believed him.

A lot of his lies are the type where everybody listening to him knows he is lying (like saying everybody wanted Roe v Wade to go back to the states, which he did several times in the last debate and it couldn't be more untrue)......so I used to wonder why he did it. Was it just ego "I can say whatever I want".........but I eventually realized/learned why he does it. Its really the brilliance of Trumps whole act..........everything he does he is trying to reach the "low engagement voters". He knows that the 25% or so of us who really pay attention to this stuff are almost impossible to sway......but the low engagement voter who could give a shit about politics and will only catch snippets here or there is easier to persuade. And that's why, IMO, you see the "white men without college degrees" being the biggest favorable voting block for Trump by a wide margin. Far more than the advantage Kamala has among women or Blacks. Its the only reason Trump is competitive. He gets something like 67% of that demographic. And he does it by constantly throwing them red meat in terms they can understand.

Fres - want to go over the debate transcript tonight and count up the Trump lies? Guy on CNN has more than 30, although I am sure he is a little high on his count considering its CNN. But I can recite several off the top of my head.......unless you actually believe crime is up in the US and down in every other country in the world. Or that inflation was the highest in history under Biden (not even close to being true). Harris told some lies too, but as always, Trump was probably bout 10 to 1. The frequency of lies makes a difference.

 

[NavigatorII]

Fres - want to go over the debate transcript tonight and count up the Trump lies? Guy on CNN has more than 30, although I am sure he is a little high on his count considering its CNN. But I can recite several off the top of my head.......unless you actually believe crime is up in the US and down in every other country in the world. Or that inflation was the highest in history under Biden (not even close to being true). Harris told some lies too, but as always, Trump was probably bout 10 to 1. The frequency of lies makes a difference.

Unless you are pining for the Jimmy Carter days, yes, Biden's inflation is the highest in 4 decades. Crime is up in the US, and also in every western civilization. Why? Illegal immigration. But I'm sure Harris want's no discussion about that.

 

[FresnoGator]

Fres - want to go over the debate transcript tonight and count up the Trump lies? Guy on CNN has more than 30, although I am sure he is a little high on his count considering its CNN. But I can recite several off the top of my head.......unless you actually believe crime is up in the US and down in every other country in the world. Or that inflation was the highest in history under Biden (not even close to being true). Harris told some lies too, but as always, Trump was probably bout 10 to 1. The frequency of lies makes a difference.

She told a ton of lies and strawmanned her way through any questions. Was she fact checked even once?