2024-25 Basketball,,, all things considered...

[ocalaman]

The keys to that short story are: I WILL SAY & I BELIEVE.

Which of course anyone posting here is free to do.

This however is a biased personal attack judgment imo:
"Blaming the officials for a Gator loss is a loser's mentality."
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I guess that in this case I'll just say in a general non-specific and undirected way,,,,
that it takes an experienced LOSER to make those biased statements, and let it go at that....😇

You believe what you believe and so do I. I just can't stand when SOME posters blame the officials every time the Gators lose a game in any sport. But there are some who do. And I say this in a general, non-specific way. While the officials do have an impact on all games, none are out to cause one team to lose or another to win. They just do the best they can, some better than others. Of course, I object to some calls that are made against the Gators, but then I see infractions our athletes commit that don't get called. But I see no intentional bias. What possible reason could there be for that? A nationwide conspiracy against Florida? Continually, in every sport? The idea that officials are out to get the Gators is, to me, ludicrous. But it seems that some feel that way. Classy losers accept defeat with grace and learn from it. Classless losers make excuses or try to find someone to blame - like Dan Hurley after UCONN lost to Florida. A loser's mentality. And, again, this is all said in a general, non-specific way.
I'm one of those people who firmly believes in no excuses for anything in life. For the most part, people get what they deserve and making excuses makes them weaker by not accepting responsibility or being accountable for their actions. That's a loser's mentality. That applies to all of life, IMO, not just sports. Our society has been ruined by excuse-makers and those who never accept responsibility for their actions, while blaming others for whatever goes wrong in their lives. People feel entitled without working for things and resent what others have that they don't. I detest that attitude. But, of course, that's just my belief. Others have theirs. Life is good. Go Gators!!

 

[Gator Fever]

I will say it before the Final 4. There is no biased officiating against the Florida Gators in the NCAA tournament, especially the Final 4. If we win it will be because we played the better game. If we lose it will be because the other team played the better game. Blaming the officials for a Gator loss is a loser's mentality and to think there is bias against Florida at this level is, to me, crazy. Refs make mistakes, players make mistakes, but none of it is intentional. It's part of the game, especially with all the physicality that is allowed in college basketball today. There is literally a foul on every possession and the refs do their best to call the ones that affect the play or are so obvious they can't be ignored, without the intent to help or harm either team. I believe that with all my heart and if some disagree with me, that's fine. Now, may the Gators be the best team on Saturday and Monday and take home the title!! Go Gators!

You hope to not let the officials determine a game and I hope the officials don't determine the winners coming up but they certainly have in the past with some games with seemingly biased officiating.

The best way to know if the refs are mostly screwing one team over another is the fans from teams with no interest in who wins the game. If they are saying one team is being whistled much more for similar things than the other team you probably are getting poor treatment by the refs.

 

[ocalaman]

You hope to not let the officials determine a game and I hope the officials don't determine the winners coming up but they certainly have in the past with some games with seemingly biased officiating.

The best way to know if the refs are mostly screwing one team over another is the fans from teams with no interest in who wins the game. If they are saying one team is being whistled much more for similar things than the other team you probably are getting poor treatment by the refs.

I've spoken my beliefs and explained them as best I can. Not going to comment on it anymore except to say that from my perspective any bias is in the eyes of the fans, not the officials.

 

[GatorGray]

It's funny, I have NEVER heard a fan say "We won because of beneficial calls from the officials." Go to ANY board of a losing team and there will be some that will say it is because of the bad/lopsided fouls called against us.

 

[Gator Fever]

I've spoken my beliefs and explained them as best I can. Not going to comment on it anymore except to say that from my perspective is that any bias is in the eyes of the fans, not the officials.

OK but there are games the refs clearly screw one team over another with calls and sometimes that can cause the team to lose.

 

[Gator Fever]

It's funny, I have NEVER heard a fan say "We won because of beneficial calls from the officials." Go to ANY board of a losing team and there will be some that will say it is because of the bad/lopsided fouls called against us.

I have admitted to bad calls helping the Gators in games before when it was obvious. Basketball is different than football but you can tell when the refs for whatever reason are allowing one team to get away with more stuff on defense than the other team in some games. I have seen this as a neutral fan not rooting for either of the teams. Spurrier's teams got the most BS holding calls I ever saw when he was rolling the SEC. I figured they were hoping to slow the blowouts down.

 

[gatordad3]

It's funny, I have NEVER heard a fan say "We won because of beneficial calls from the officials." Go to ANY board of a losing team and there will be some that will say it is because of the bad/lopsided fouls called against us.

From what I've seen in the last two UF games, looks as if the calls almost went both ways as vs TT, we were at the FT line 14 times more, but that traveling Queen of MD got more than enough favorable calls, and it showed vs Colorado State.

 

[gatordad3]

Vegas even put the Tinerc/Houston game at 120 as the over/under, hmmm.

 

[gatordad3]

I can only guess Todd Golden made each player shoot 500 free throws apiece before their matchup against Texas Tech.

 

[Gator Fever]

From what I've seen in the last two UF games, looks as if the calls almost went both ways as vs TT, we were at the FT line 14 times more, but that traveling Queen of MD got more than enough favorable calls, and it showed vs Colorado State.

We won the game and it wasn't real bad but UConn for much of the game seemed to not get called as much for similar stuff we were getting called for. That is why it was so funny their coach was crying about a call near the end. The number of fouls called might have been similar but it seemed UConn was getting a little leeway on their physical play compared to when we did it. The rest of our games I don't think I noticed much disparity in how the refs allowed the teams to play defense.

 

[gatordad3]

We won the game and it wasn't real bad but UConn for much of the game seemed to not get called as much for similar stuff we were getting called for. That is why it was so funny their coach was crying about a call near the end. The number of fouls called might have been similar but it seemed UConn was getting a little leeway on their physical play compared to when we did it. The rest of our games I don't think I noticed much disparity in how the refs allowed the teams to play defense.

That's why I didn't mention UCONN. Without Dairy Queen getting coddled by the refs, and the insane turnovers vd Maryland, we win by almost 30.

 

[Gators1853]

I am of the opinion most referees try not to be biased. I do think coaches know the referees they can intimidate and you see them yelling at certain referees during the game. Some referees handle this better than others.

I also believe some of the SEC referees are just plain bad. Probably the worst in college basketball. If I could change one thing in basketball it would be the amount of time referees spend in front of the TV monitor trying to figure out who has the ball, what type of foul to call and time on the clock. Going to the monitor is a good thing when done right but for some reason games are extended as much as a half hour by refs staring at the monitor screen.

 

[sadgator]

Blaming the refs when you lose is for pussies.

Most calls good and bad even out over the course of a game for both teams.

If you let the officials decide the game, you simply don’t deserve to win.

 

[sadgator]

Blaming the refs when you lose is for pussies.

Most calls good and bad even out over the course of a game for both teams.

If you let the officials decide the game, you simply don’t deserve to win.

The lone exception to this rule being the Swindle in the Swamp…

 

[Gator Fever]

The lone exception to this rule being the Swindle in the Swamp…

Yep refs don't ever call things helping one team over another. Only losers would ever believe something like that. 🤣

 

[gatordad3]

Yep refs don't ever call things helping one team over another. Only losers would ever believe something like that. 🤣

Those ACC refs were the very reason the NCAA initiated the replay rule sooner than later.

 

[gatordad3]

For those of you who wonder why UF hasn't played a complete game in the tournament.

 

[gatordad3]

 

[instaGATOR]

The lone exception to this rule being the Swindle in the Swamp…

I guess that your short di... uh short memory forgot about the Ripoff on Rocky Top then....

 

[gatordad3]

I guess that your short di... uh short memory forgot about the Ripoff on Rocky Top then....

If you're talking about the 2004 game, that was b1tch call by the refs to ignore the UT player as Dallas Baker retaliated. Then again, if we win that game, Zook most likely gets another season while Urban Meyer ends up at Notre Dame.

 

[instaGATOR]

If you're talking about the 2004 game, that was b1tch call by the refs to ignore the UT player as Dallas Baker retaliated. Then again, if we win that game, Zook most likely gets another season while Urban Meyer ends up at Notre Dame.

None of the Zook/Meyer BS is pertinent to the biased/incompetent/corrupt officials discussion dud3, but I guess that's nothing new for you.... 😇

 

[instaGATOR]

Blake Toppmeyer - USA Today Net -- Houston beats Florida for the Natl. Champ.
Everybody has a pick, and anybody can be right or wrong... (the iG)

MSN

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Houston 69 - 50 Tennis-Sea (-19)
Florida 73 - 43 Tennis-Sea (-30)
UF beat Tn in 2 of 3 on the season, with Tn's only win coming on their home floor, in UF's worst game of the season. - 13/53 FG's, 4/27 on 3's, 5 Ast, 13 TO's
Guano Occurs...
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Dukie 85 - 65 Alabama (-20)
Florida 104 - 82 Alabama (-22) (SEC Tourney)
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Florida 90 - 81 Auburn (-9)
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So, since we all know that 'Associative Properties' and past games don't mean chit in the Final Four....
This is the time were we see who gets lucky, and/or who gets the game officials support.... 🤓
I went back and watched the TxTech game again, and anyone that can't see the BIC Officials in that game is blind, or stupid, or a loser.... 😉 (jmoho's of course)
But even the game commentators mentioned it a couple of times....

PS - BIC = Biased-Incompetent-Corrupt, it's one or more of those 3 imo.

 

[ocalaman]

The NCAA is having meetings this week to decide which refs should be assigned to the Florida/Auburn game so that Auburn will have the best chance to win.

 

[groundhoggator]

The NCAA is having meetings this week to decide which refs should be assigned to the Florida/Auburn game so that Auburn will have the best chance to win.

Here's the list of available officials for the Final 4.... make your selection on who you want to officiate these games - several SEC based on the list.

NCAA Division I men's basketball committee names game officials for men's Final Four

The NCAA DI men's basketball committee has named the eleven officials for the 2025 men's Final Four.

www.ncaa.com

 

[ocalaman]

Here's the list of available officials for the Final 4.... make your selection on who you want to officiate these games - several SEC based on the list.

NCAA Division I men's basketball committee names game officials for men's Final Four

The NCAA DI men's basketball committee has named the eleven officials for the 2025 men's Final Four.

www.ncaa.com

My statement was meant to be facetious, pure sarcasm, as the rolling eyes emoji was inrtended to indicate.

 

[Nicktheslick]

My statement was meant to be facetious, pure sarcasm, as the rolling eyes emoji was inrtended to indicate.

Nothing gets by gator fans.

 

[Nicktheslick]

Here's the list of available officials for the Final 4.... make your selection on who you want to officiate these games - several SEC based on the list.

NCAA Division I men's basketball committee names game officials for men's Final Four

The NCAA DI men's basketball committee has named the eleven officials for the 2025 men's Final Four.

www.ncaa.com

What?!? No Pat Adams?

 

[gatordad3]

Walter Clayton then

 

[Nicktheslick]

If the gators were looking for any motivation boy did they get it. The AP voted for the coach of the year. Pitino and Pearl tied for it. Ok. Ok. Sheyer, Izzo, Gates and a few others got votes. Todd Golden got not a single vote. What a load of crap. This is ridiculous.

 

[Gator Fever]

If the gators were looking for any motivation boy did they get it. The AP voted for the coach of the year. Pitino and Pearl tied for it. Ok. Ok. Sheyer, Izzo, Gates and a few others got votes. Todd Golden got not a single vote. What a load of crap. This is ridiculous.

Yep we started 10 spots in the rankings behind Auburn and Golden doesn't get a vote.

 

[instaGATOR]

The Golden boy can't coach,,, he just got lucky with the right guys showing up on the roster..... 😉

 

[instaGATOR]

Hey fever, I tolja that Dukie would not win the NC....
UF 79 - 73 Auburn
UH 70 - 67 Dukie
And both UF and UH came from behind at the end to win....

I kinda like their chances vs Houston,,, IF the officials can call an unbiased game anyway.
I don't care if they call it tight or loose, just as long as they call it even either way....

 

[gatordad3]

If those same officials are at Monday nights game, expect the usual. 5 on 8 as usual.

 

[sadgator]

The NCAA is having meetings this week to decide which refs should be assigned to the Florida/Auburn game so that Auburn will have the best chance to win.

Like Nostradamus…

 

[instaGATOR]

Like Nostradamus…

Hey sadgator, I predict that Mrs. sadgator has chosen to become a Nun....

Nun yesterday, nun today, nun tomorrow, and nun next week, ect-infinitim.... 😉

 

[ocalaman]

The UF/Houston game is going to be VERY physical. Houston is the best defensive team in the nation and they have 3 starters who shoot 3's at above 40%. We can't have them turning us over a bunch and we have to guard the arc. For a team not as big as most of their opponents and certainly not as big as us, they are tenacious on the boards and we have to block out well and match their intensity. We can't have a first half like we did against Auburn or they will blow us out like they did Tennessee. Chinyelu needs to stay on the court and not commit silly fouls. I fully expect the refs to call a fair game, but with physicality and fouling (by the rule book) on just about every possession, they will miss calls both ways. The team who plays the most complete game will win tonight and like like our chances.

 

[46885]

The UF/Houston game is going to be VERY physical. Houston is the best defensive team in the nation and they have 3 starters who shoot 3's at above 40%. We can't have them turning us over a bunch and we have to guard the arc. For a team not as big as most of their opponents and certainly not as big as us, they are tenacious on the boards and we have to block out well and match their intensity. We can't have a first half like we did against Auburn or they will blow us out like they did Tennessee. Chinyelu needs to stay on the court and not commit silly fouls. I fully expect the refs to call a fair game, but with physicality and fouling (by the rule book) on just about every possession, they will miss calls both ways. The team who plays the most complete game will win tonight and like like our chances.

I'll be honest, what i've seen all year is Duke and Houston playing teams they out match.. when they played Tennessee the Vols just decided they were a 3 point shooting team and went 4 for 1000 and shot themselves out of it.. I saw Duke kicking this teams ass the other night because Houston was inept and bricking lay ups, what happened was an ALL TIME GAG by Duke.. I don't give a shit how physical everyone keeps saying they are, we've seen every kind of variation of them and much better teams offensively and kicked all their asses.. We should be able to kick this teams ass and run away and hide, we are better than them. PERIOD.

Houston better shoot well from the outside like everyone has seemed to do against us in this tournament beyond themselves, because while everyone is sucking Houston's dick for defense, what they don't realize is... we're gonna turn them over too, and when we do that well...

 

[ocalaman]

I'll be honest, what i've seen all year is Duke and Houston playing teams they out match.. when they played Tennessee the Vols just decided they were a 3 point shooting team and went 4 for 1000 and shot themselves out of it.. I saw Duke kicking this teams ass the other night because Houston was inept and bricking lay ups, what happened was an ALL TIME GAG by Duke.. I don't give a shit how physical everyone keeps saying they are, we've seen every kind of variation of them and much better teams offensively and kicked all their asses.. We should be able to kick this teams ass and run away and hide, we are better than them. PERIOD.

Houston better shoot well from the outside like everyone has seemed to do against us in this tournament beyond themselves, because while everyone is sucking Houston's dick for defense, what they don't realize is... we're gonna turn them over too, and when we do that well...

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We shall see, won't we?

 

[46885]

We know what we'll see, they'll once again let a physical team play prison rules on us while calling us for every nickel and dimer change hand checks with our hands straight up in front of them legally and we'll have to overcome the devil one more time this year.. This belongs to us and these kids, and they need to go and take what is rightfully theirs...

 

[ocalaman]

We know what we'll see, they'll once again let a physical team play prison rules on us while calling us for every nickel and dimer change hand checks with our hands straight up in front of them legally and we'll have to overcome the devil one more time this year.. This belongs to us and these kids, and they need to go and take what is rightfully theirs...

We're one of the most physical teams in the NCAA and there is ZERO bias against Florida. We, also, foul. Refs do their best and in no way are they going to favor one team over another. If we win it will be because we played better. If we lose it will be because Houston played better. People bitched about the refs in the Auburn game and yet we shot 30 free throws to their 23 and were called for only 15 fouls to Auburn's 22. Of course, there were a few plays where it looked like the refs missed a call against Auburn, but I also saw just as many calls that were missed or went uncalled when our guys fouled. The way the game has evolved, much more physicality is allowed now than say 15-20 years ago and they simply can't call everything. The bias is with Gator fans (actually fans of every team who see games through their own biased perspective), not the refs, IMO.