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Wow.. Jeff Driskel

I can hear lil ooze getting angry.

I love that I can disappear from the board for days and yet still be on your mind. I'm highly amused. I look forward to the Grier and Harris thread updates when they transfer. Somehow I doubt it will be here though, y'all don't have a personal hard on for those two.
 
If you watched the game it wasn't anything impressive. He didn't play until the last two drives. The south was in prevent and he threw check downs and then hit a 50 yard Hail Mary for a td
 
I was gonna say im sure he was hitting those rb drop downs for a living and checking everything down.. Was his one incompletion the one he tried to drive down the field for "12 yards"
 
My post wasn't directed at Oozie, it's just amazing to me that JD is performing at this level after his history here at UF.

I've watched him a few times this year, he's playing at about the same level he was here at UF.
 
I've watched him a few times this year, he's playing at about the same level he was here at UFI

I don't know how you can say that, he's been a lot better than he was at UF. Apparently the NFL guys thought enough of him to invite him to the Sr. Bowl
 
His competition was a lot worse, and I always said he'd garner pro interest. He's 6'4 240lbs, cannon arm, fairly accurate, runs like the wind. Heck, he may even get drafted, but it'll all fall to pieces when he faces real rushes against fast defenses.
 
His competition was a lot worse, and I always said he'd garner pro interest. He's 6'4 240lbs, cannon arm, fairly accurate, runs like the wind. Heck, he may even get drafted, but it'll all fall to pieces when he faces real rushes against fast defenses.
Isn't is all relative. He plays with equal talent on his team than the opponents he's going up against. He plays on La Tech with CUSA talent and playing against CUSA talent. It's not like he has SEC talent on his team playing against CUSA teams.

The kid threw for over 4,000 yards with 27 TDs and only 8 ints. Nobody predicted that or would have said he would have had a year like he just did statistically. And that is playing for Skip Holtz

I'm not saying he's all of a sudden turned into a real good QB or that he's going to be a NFL QB but the fact that he was able to do as well as he did statistically is a big head scratcher to me. IMO he wasn't used right under Muschamp just like a lot of offensive players weren't used right under Muschamp. Many of them went on to other programs or the NFL and have looked a lot better there then they did here at UF under Muschamp.
 
He's going to get drafted late, and I think that was probably always gonna be the case regardless of his performance. Like I've said before, he's probably the most physically gifted QB to ever play here, he just has zero head for the game. But GM's cannot help but fall for measurables and once he goes to the combine and measures 6'4 230 and runs 4.6 they'll draft him. NFL coaches are arrogant and think they can fix any player.
 
It's not relative when he plays against NFL defenses, when he saw the closest thing in the SEC he looked like he will in the NFL for the simple fact he doesn't have a clue what he's seeing or how to operate an offense. Being a good NFL QB is all about everything before the ball is even snapped because the talent is all so equal, a big reason why Peyton is still playing football out there as a dad.
 
imo, Driskel has always been a good QB. I think he needed a good QB coach to guide him along the way which he never had at your school. He is a tremendous athlete and has all the measurables. Great arm! I think he will do well in the NFL.
 
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I have to bring up Ghost's favorite term to describe the thinking in this thread. Binary thinking would indicate that Driskel is either a good QB ruined by Muschamp or a terrible QB who got Muschamp fired.

Couldn't it just be that he has done *much better* in his new digs than he did at UF without being an NFL starter? And can't we be happy for the kid who played his heart out for our team and was a model student-athlete the whole time he was here?

He was terrible here, not that hard to admit he has done much better comparatively once he got away from Muschamp, just like Brissett and just like Murphy, but still concede he probably isn't going to do well at the next level.
 
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Sigh I don't know how many times it has to be discussed as to why his numbers look the way they do.

But so be it.
 
Sigh I don't know how many times it has to be discussed as to why his numbers look the way they do.

But so be it.

That "discussion" makes no logical sense, since the guy looked like a steaming turd while at UF against the same type of cupcake opponents you'd like to use to dismiss away his success this year. That he did so while also surrounded by what you'd assume was better teammates than he had at LT throws further shade on your position.
 
That "discussion" makes no logical sense, since the guy looked like a steaming turd while at UF against the same type of cupcake opponents you'd like to use to dismiss away his success this year. That he did so while also surrounded by what you'd assume was better teammates than he had at LT throws further shade on your position.

"Binary thinking"
 
I have to bring up Ghost's favorite term to describe the thinking in this thread. Binary thinking would indicate that Driskel is either a good QB ruined by Muschamp or a terrible QB who got Muschamp fired.

Couldn't it just be that he has done *much better* in his new digs than he did at UF without being an NFL starter? And can't we be happy for the kid who played his heart out for our team and was a model student-athlete


He was terrible here, not that hard to admit he has done much better comparatively once he got away from Muschamp, just like Brissett and just like Murphy, but still concede he probably isn't going to do well at the next level.

yes, that about nails it
 
Isn't is all relative. He plays with equal talent on his team than the opponents he's going up against. He plays on La Tech with CUSA talent and playing against CUSA talent. It's not like he has SEC talent on his team playing against CUSA teams.

The kid threw for over 4,000 yards with 27 TDs and only 8 ints. Nobody predicted that or would have said he would have had a year like he just did statistically. And that is playing for Skip Holtz

I'm not saying he's all of a sudden turned into a real good QB or that he's going to be a NFL QB but the fact that he was able to do as well as he did statistically is a big head scratcher to me. IMO he wasn't used right under Muschamp just like a lot of offensive players weren't used right under Muschamp. Many of them went on to other programs or the NFL and have looked a lot better there then they did here at UF under Muschamp.
Wished he could of played for Mac to see what would of happened I always thought Jeff drink ell had the tools to be a NFL QB .... Just too bad he didn't have the coaches he needed to get better orbe taught better ,,,, in my opinion you will hear good things from NFL scouts about frisked !!!! Just my opinion. !!!!
 
Wished he could of played for Mac to see what would of happened I always thought Jeff drink ell had the tools to be a NFL QB .... Just too bad he didn't have the coaches he needed to get better orbe taught better ,,,, in my opinion you will hear good things from NFL scouts about frisked !!!! Just my opinion. !!!!
All I will say is I certainly would have rather had him as the QB than Treon Harris.
 
So does anyone remember 2014?

Serious question.

No, because it doesn't fit the narrative. The same terrible Harris outperformed Driskel as a true freshman. But because he goes and puts up stats at LA Tech that means he would have done the same here.

Then you'll get the argument that he got better coaching at LA Tech. Which may be true, but then why wouldn't any of our other QB's also look better under this same great coaching? Why wouldn't Harris put up similar numbers at Tech considering he was as good as Driskel as a true freshman? Logic would dictate he could be at least as successful given their relative performances, and it still wouldn't make him a good QB. The mental gymnastics people do on here is baffling sometimes.
 
Harris wasn't any good in 2014 at UF either. He was bad in 2014 and 2015. Driskel and Harris were both bad here at UF. With Driskel at least you get the strong arm, the size and the athleticism better than Harris. Both Harris and Driskel made poor decisions and didn't have it upstairs. Harris literally has no good physical or mental qualities to be a good QB. At least Driskel has the physical part.

Of course Driskel received better coaching after he left UF. So did Brissett and Murphy and many other guys that didn't do too much here but are doing pretty well in the NFL under Muschamp (Matt Jones, Trey Burton, Frankie Hammond, Quinton Dumbar, etc.)
 
I can't reconcile Driskel supposedly receiving better coaching when his coach was a guy who inherited a fairly strong USF program and ran it into the ground with some of the worst offenses in the country before being fired. That's the guy that provided better coaching than a Weis or Roper? Holtz's offensive resume can't touch any one of those guys. So it obviously wasn't just coaching. The answer is obvious but y'all don't want to admit t.
 
I can't reconcile Driskel supposedly receiving better coaching when his coach was a guy who inherited a fairly strong USF program and ran it into the ground with some of the worst offenses in the country before being fired. That's the guy that provided better coaching than a Weis or Roper? Holtz's offensive resume can't touch any one of those guys. So it obviously wasn't just coaching. The answer is obvious but y'all don't want to admit t.
I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure La Tech's OC is Tony Petersen who has a very good record of putting out explosive offenses.
 
2014 is one of the many recent seasons I try to forget, Daniel.

And have we forgotten that Treon was somehow better than Driskel?

Now Driskel was just unlucky because of Muschamp and is an NFL prospect for any thing other than his size (which is what made him look good in High School)?

And Treon gets a new offense, looks awful and now, somehow, Driskel is better?

I love the "it doesn't matter that all his competition sucks at LATech, he didn't look great against cupcakes at UF!" argument. Those Florida teams ALWAYS played down to the competition. If you truly don't believe that playing cupcakes every week will help a big, athletic and limited between the ears QB put up better numbers in far less pressure, you are simply ignoring common sense to further the pent up Muschamp hate.

The guy is playing how he has ALWAYS played. The offense he is in is just allowing him to do three times as many of those things so his numbers inflate. That's simple math.

Driskel in the NFL? LMAO. There's no reason other than his size. The one thing he's had from day one.
 
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