The best conference has the best talent, a top heavy conference is gonna have it's years, just like everyone perceived the big ten this year... SEC will always have the most talent, it ran away with all of it again on Signing day. It's like people just get tired of the obvious to be trendy and a contrarian, the SEC has the best players and it's not even close.
Why Florida is a legit 2017 CFP sleeper
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The best conference has the best talent, a top heavy conference is gonna have it's years, just like everyone perceived the big ten this year... SEC will always have the most talent, it ran away with all of it again on Signing day. It's like people just get tired of the obvious to be trendy and a contrarian, the SEC has the best players and it's not even close.
Isn't Miami a conference game for you? Pretty sure it is. So you have only one in-state OOC game, and you don't have a neutral site game like we do. So come back when it's apples to apples.
ACC was ON PAR with the SEC this year, and it was the best year in ACC history.
Tell me, when the SEC put two teams in the final four in 2014, did any of you think the SEC was a better basketball conference than the ACC, or did you think it was an aberration?
EXACTLY.
Acc was better this year and it had been trending that way for 3yrs getting worse each yr. Hey, sec had a great 15 yr run on top but the last 3 yrs have not been dominate at all. It was CLEAR that last year the acc was better.
Interesting point. Let's go Insta on this for a minute.
Top 100 Rivals Players Signed Per Conference (total Top 250 players in ())
2017:
SEC--------30 (76)
Big10------23 (48)
Pac12-----17 (45)
ACC-------16 (36)
Big12-------8 (25)
(92 of 100).....(234 of 250)
2016:
SEC--------39 (75)
Big10------20 (42)
ACC-------14 (41)
Pac12-----12 (40)
Big12-------8 (25)
(89 of 100).....(223 of 250)
2015:
SEC--------46 (89)
Pac12------21 (44)
ACC--------20 (39)
Big10--------5 (30)
Big12--------5 (24)
(97 of 100).......(226 of 250)
2014:
SEC---------45 (101)
Pac12-------15 (39)
Big10-------13 (31)
ACC--------13 (40)
Big12--------6 (19)
(96 of 100).......(230 of 250)
2013:
SEC--------38 (92)
Pac12------16 (39)
Big10------15 (43)
ACC-------14 (32)
Big12-------6 (20)
(89 of 100).......(236 of 250)
Given that the ACC is now better than the SEC, we should probably expect FSU to file a an application for SEC membership any day now.
I really don't know why so many refuse to see this point. Over the past couple years the SEC has been setting all kinds of records for 1st round draft picks, players drafted, etc. And almost all of it was underclassmen, a dropoff was expected. I don't care how well you recruit when you're losing NFL draft picks in bunches every year you're gonna take a step back and your depth will suffer. But they're still getting the best talent every year.
And it's funny because the SEC had gotten a reputation for 'bad' QB play but over the last decade they've had 3 Heisman trophy winning QB's which is of course the most of any conference. And that's not even including other guys like Dak, Stafford, Murray, etc. who were elite college QB's. I feel like once QB's like Shea Patterson, Hurts, Bentley, Eason, Drew Lock, and hopefully Trask/Franks settle in QB play will be back to where it used to be and all the talk about the conference declining will stop.
Miami is a conference game but both Florida and Florida State played Miami before they were in a conference. When the Gators chickened out of the annual series with Miami after the 87 shellacking, neither Miami nor FSU were in a conference. It was just a pride thing.
Last year we played tow instate OOC games. We beat both Miami (in-conference), Florida (OOC) and South Florida (OOC) in regulation time. They're no FAU, but they are still good.
Neutral site - this year we open with Bama in Atlanta. Hopefully we'll represent the state a little better than you have against them in the recent past.
you are just trying to bait us into applying again so you can blackball us. jelly
>)If we did apply, do you think the SEC would let it come to an actual vote this time?
Nah, bobby would misplace the appyou are just trying to bait us into applying again so you can blackball us. jelly
If we did apply, do you think the SEC would let it come to an actual vote this time?
Thread -- Why Florida is a legit 2017 CFP sleeper?
My question is why are the tallycrappy criminoles even in this conversation?
Are there any Gator fans over on the snore-rant site promoting UF or dissing on the criminoles?
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Many believe that UF won't have a chance because of a perceived drop-off in the 2016 #5 in the Nation defense. While there might be a small drop-off in the younger defense for 2017, I don't see it being much of a drop-off.
Muschamp's last season = #8 in the Nation defense.
Instead of a predicted drop-off in defense:
Mc's first season = #8 defense.
Instead of the predicted even worse defense:
Mc's second season = #5 defense - DC now the Temple Head Coach
2017 New DC is Randy Shannon, new DB coach is Corey Bell.
On the Gator's 2017 Defense, who's gone and who's available to replace them?
Gone:
DT Joey Ivey 6-3 301 Sr
DT Caleb Brantley 6-2 297 rsJr - E-D to NFL
Back:
1) DT Khairi Clark 6-2 319 rsJr
2) DT Taven Bryan 6-5 293 rsJr
3) #2 DE/DT Cece Jefferson 6-1 261 Jr
4) DT/DE Jachai Polite 6-2 271 So
Replacements:
#11 DT/NT Tedarrell 'TJ' Slaton 6-5 345 Fr - Plantation
#17 DT Elijah Conliffe 6-4 309 Fr - Hampton, VA
#35 DT/NT Kyree Campbell 6-3 323 Fr-EE - Kingston, PA
(net gain +1)
Gone:
DE Bryan Cox Jr 6-3 269 rsSr
Back:
1) DE Jordan Sherit 6-4 254 rsSr
2) DE Justus Reed 6-3 241 rsJr
3) DE Keivonnis Davis 6-4 250 Jr
4) DE Jabari Zuniga 6-3 245 rsSo
5) DE/DT Luke Ancrum 6-5 262 rsSo
6) #2 DE Antonneous Clayton 6-3 220 So
7) DE Jordan Smith 6-5 240 So
Replacement:
#3 DE Zach Carter 6-5 250 Fr - Tampa
(depart-arrive, balance)
Gone:
ILB Jarrad Davis 6-2 238 Sr
OLB Daniel McMillian 6-1 223 Sr
OLB/ILB Alex Anxalone 6-3 241 rsJr - E-D to NFL
Back:
1) OLB Kylan Johnson 6-1 231 rsSo (rsFr starter)
2) OLB Rayshad Jackson 6-0 226 rsSo
3) OLB Vosean Joseph 6-1 226 So (Fr starter)
4) ILB David Reese 6-0 244 So (Fr starter)
5) OLB Jeremiah Moon 6-4 218 So (injured in 2016)
6) ILB Camrin Knight 6-3 246 Jr (switched, TE to LB)
Replacements:
#29 ILB Ventrell Miller 6-0 227 Fr - Lakeland
#37 OLB James Houston IV 6-1 226 Fr-EE - Plantation
#60 OLB Nick Smith 6-2 200 Fr - Orlando
NR OLB Lacedrick Brunson 6-2 210 Fr - Miami (Shannon sleeper)
(net gain +1)
Gone:
FS Marcus Maye 6-0 216 rsSr
Back:
1) SS Marcell Harris 6-1 211 rsSr
2) FS Nick Washington 6-0 197 rsSr
3) FS Jeawon Taylor 6-0 187 So
4) SS Quincy Lenton 5-11 202 rsFr (injured in 2016)
Replacements:
#21 S Brian Edwards 6-2 188 Fr - Miramar
#23 S/CB Shawn Davis 6-1 195 Fr - Miami
#33 S Donovan Stiner 6-2 185 Fr - Bellaire, TX
(net gain +2)
Gone:
CB Jalen Tabor 6-0 201 Jr (E-D NFL)
CB Quincey Wilson 6-1 213 Jr (E-D NFL)
Back:
1) CB/Nic Duke Dawson 5-10 208 Sr
2) CB Joseph Putu 6-2 195 Sr
3) CB Chris Williamson 5-11 191 rsSo
4) CB/FS Chauncey Gardener 5-11 204 So (Outback Bowl MVP)
5) CB McArthur Burnett 5-9 174 So
6) CB CJ McWilliams 5-11 171 rsFr (ACL)
Replacements:
#10 Ath/CB C.J. Henderson 6-0 174 Fr - Miami
#13 CB Marco Wilson 6-0 180 Fr - Plantation
#13 CB/FS Brad Stewart 6-0 194 Fr - N.O, LA
(net gain +1)
While DC Shannon loses 8 off the defense, he has 11 with starts coming back.
He also has a great incoming class of Fr to fill in any holes.
(Team Loss to Replacement on defense is a net gain of +5)
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So, IF a better quality QB emerges for 2017, then they have a dark-horse chance.
If not, they it's about a 1 in 100 very long shot chance imo.
My question is why are the tallycrappy criminoles even in this conversation?
Are there any Gator fans over on the snore-rant site promoting UF or dissing on the criminoles?
==========
Many believe that UF won't have a chance because of a perceived drop-off in the 2016 #5 in the Nation defense. While there might be a small drop-off in the younger defense for 2017, I don't see it being much of a drop-off.
Muschamp's last season = #8 in the Nation defense.
Instead of a predicted drop-off in defense:
Mc's first season = #8 defense.
Instead of the predicted even worse defense:
Mc's second season = #5 defense - DC now the Temple Head Coach
2017 New DC is Randy Shannon, new DB coach is Corey Bell.
On the Gator's 2017 Defense, who's gone and who's available to replace them?
Gone:
DT Joey Ivey 6-3 301 Sr
DT Caleb Brantley 6-2 297 rsJr - E-D to NFL
Back:
1) DT Khairi Clark 6-2 319 rsJr
2) DT Taven Bryan 6-5 293 rsJr
3) #2 DE/DT Cece Jefferson 6-1 261 Jr
4) DT/DE Jachai Polite 6-2 271 So
Replacements:
#11 DT/NT Tedarrell 'TJ' Slaton 6-5 345 Fr - Plantation
#17 DT Elijah Conliffe 6-4 309 Fr - Hampton, VA
#35 DT/NT Kyree Campbell 6-3 323 Fr-EE - Kingston, PA
(net gain +1)
Gone:
DE Bryan Cox Jr 6-3 269 rsSr
Back:
1) DE Jordan Sherit 6-4 254 rsSr
2) DE Justus Reed 6-3 241 rsJr
3) DE Keivonnis Davis 6-4 250 Jr
4) DE Jabari Zuniga 6-3 245 rsSo
5) DE/DT Luke Ancrum 6-5 262 rsSo
6) #2 DE Antonneous Clayton 6-3 220 So
7) DE Jordan Smith 6-5 240 So
Replacement:
#3 DE Zach Carter 6-5 250 Fr - Tampa
(depart-arrive, balance)
Gone:
ILB Jarrad Davis 6-2 238 Sr
OLB Daniel McMillian 6-1 223 Sr
OLB/ILB Alex Anxalone 6-3 241 rsJr - E-D to NFL
Back:
1) OLB Kylan Johnson 6-1 231 rsSo (rsFr starter)
2) OLB Rayshad Jackson 6-0 226 rsSo
3) OLB Vosean Joseph 6-1 226 So (Fr starter)
4) ILB David Reese 6-0 244 So (Fr starter)
5) OLB Jeremiah Moon 6-4 218 So (injured in 2016)
6) ILB Camrin Knight 6-3 246 Jr (switched, TE to LB)
Replacements:
#29 ILB Ventrell Miller 6-0 227 Fr - Lakeland
#37 OLB James Houston IV 6-1 226 Fr-EE - Plantation
#60 OLB Nick Smith 6-2 200 Fr - Orlando
NR OLB Lacedrick Brunson 6-2 210 Fr - Miami (Shannon sleeper)
(net gain +1)
Gone:
FS Marcus Maye 6-0 216 rsSr
Back:
1) SS Marcell Harris 6-1 211 rsSr
2) FS Nick Washington 6-0 197 rsSr
3) FS Jeawon Taylor 6-0 187 So
4) SS Quincy Lenton 5-11 202 rsFr (injured in 2016)
Replacements:
#21 S Brian Edwards 6-2 188 Fr - Miramar
#23 S/CB Shawn Davis 6-1 195 Fr - Miami
#33 S Donovan Stiner 6-2 185 Fr - Bellaire, TX
(net gain +2)
Gone:
CB Jalen Tabor 6-0 201 Jr (E-D NFL)
CB Quincey Wilson 6-1 213 Jr (E-D NFL)
Back:
1) CB/Nic Duke Dawson 5-10 208 Sr
2) CB Joseph Putu 6-2 195 Sr
3) CB Chris Williamson 5-11 191 rsSo
4) CB/FS Chauncey Gardener 5-11 204 So (Outback Bowl MVP)
5) CB McArthur Burnett 5-9 174 So
6) CB CJ McWilliams 5-11 171 rsFr (ACL)
Replacements:
#10 Ath/CB C.J. Henderson 6-0 174 Fr - Miami
#13 CB Marco Wilson 6-0 180 Fr - Plantation
#13 CB/FS Brad Stewart 6-0 194 Fr - N.O, LA
(net gain +1)
While DC Shannon loses 8 off the defense, he has 11 with starts coming back.
He also has a great incoming class of Fr to fill in any holes.
(Team Loss to Replacement on defense is a net gain of +5)
===========
So, IF a better quality QB emerges for 2017, then they have a dark-horse chance.
If not, they it's about a 1 in 100 very long shot chance imo.
Thread -- Why Florida is a legit 2017 CFP sleeper?
My question is why are the tallycrappy criminoles even in this conversation?
Are there any Gator fans over on the snore-rant site promoting UF or dissing on the criminoles?
==========
Many believe that UF won't have a chance because of a perceived drop-off in the 2016 #5 in the Nation defense. While there might be a small drop-off in the younger defense for 2017, I don't see it being much of a drop-off.
Muschamp's last season = #8 in the Nation defense.
Instead of a predicted drop-off in defense:
Mc's first season = #8 defense.
Instead of the predicted even worse defense:
Mc's second season = #5 defense - DC now the Temple Head Coach
2017 New DC is Randy Shannon, new DB coach is Corey Bell.
On the Gator's 2017 Defense, who's gone and who's available to replace them?
Gone:
DT Joey Ivey 6-3 301 Sr
DT Caleb Brantley 6-2 297 rsJr - E-D to NFL
Back:
1) DT Khairi Clark 6-2 319 rsJr
2) DT Taven Bryan 6-5 293 rsJr
3) #2 DE/DT Cece Jefferson 6-1 261 Jr
4) DT/DE Jachai Polite 6-2 271 So
Replacements:
#11 DT/NT Tedarrell 'TJ' Slaton 6-5 345 Fr - Plantation
#17 DT Elijah Conliffe 6-4 309 Fr - Hampton, VA
#35 DT/NT Kyree Campbell 6-3 323 Fr-EE - Kingston, PA
(net gain +1)
Gone:
DE Bryan Cox Jr 6-3 269 rsSr
Back:
1) DE Jordan Sherit 6-4 254 rsSr
2) DE Justus Reed 6-3 241 rsJr
3) DE Keivonnis Davis 6-4 250 Jr
4) DE Jabari Zuniga 6-3 245 rsSo
5) DE/DT Luke Ancrum 6-5 262 rsSo
6) #2 DE Antonneous Clayton 6-3 220 So
7) DE Jordan Smith 6-5 240 So
Replacement:
#3 DE Zach Carter 6-5 250 Fr - Tampa
(depart-arrive, balance)
Gone:
ILB Jarrad Davis 6-2 238 Sr
OLB Daniel McMillian 6-1 223 Sr
OLB/ILB Alex Anxalone 6-3 241 rsJr - E-D to NFL
Back:
1) OLB Kylan Johnson 6-1 231 rsSo (rsFr starter)
2) OLB Rayshad Jackson 6-0 226 rsSo
3) OLB Vosean Joseph 6-1 226 So (Fr starter)
4) ILB David Reese 6-0 244 So (Fr starter)
5) OLB Jeremiah Moon 6-4 218 So (injured in 2016)
6) ILB Camrin Knight 6-3 246 Jr (switched, TE to LB)
Replacements:
#29 ILB Ventrell Miller 6-0 227 Fr - Lakeland
#37 OLB James Houston IV 6-1 226 Fr-EE - Plantation
#60 OLB Nick Smith 6-2 200 Fr - Orlando
NR OLB Lacedrick Brunson 6-2 210 Fr - Miami (Shannon sleeper)
(net gain +1)
Gone:
FS Marcus Maye 6-0 216 rsSr
Back:
1) SS Marcell Harris 6-1 211 rsSr
2) FS Nick Washington 6-0 197 rsSr
3) FS Jeawon Taylor 6-0 187 So
4) SS Quincy Lenton 5-11 202 rsFr (injured in 2016)
Replacements:
#21 S Brian Edwards 6-2 188 Fr - Miramar
#23 S/CB Shawn Davis 6-1 195 Fr - Miami
#33 S Donovan Stiner 6-2 185 Fr - Bellaire, TX
(net gain +2)
Gone:
CB Jalen Tabor 6-0 201 Jr (E-D NFL)
CB Quincey Wilson 6-1 213 Jr (E-D NFL)
Back:
1) CB/Nic Duke Dawson 5-10 208 Sr
2) CB Joseph Putu 6-2 195 Sr
3) CB Chris Williamson 5-11 191 rsSo
4) CB/FS Chauncey Gardener 5-11 204 So (Outback Bowl MVP)
5) CB McArthur Burnett 5-9 174 So
6) CB CJ McWilliams 5-11 171 rsFr (ACL)
Replacements:
#10 Ath/CB C.J. Henderson 6-0 174 Fr - Miami
#13 CB Marco Wilson 6-0 180 Fr - Plantation
#13 CB/FS Brad Stewart 6-0 194 Fr - N.O, LA
(net gain +1)
While DC Shannon loses 8 off the defense, he has 11 with starts coming back.
He also has a great incoming class of Fr to fill in any holes.
(Team Loss to Replacement on defense is a net gain of +5)
===========
So, IF a better quality QB emerges for 2017, then they have a dark-horse chance.
If not, they it's about a 1 in 100 very long shot chance imo.
If not, they it's about a 1 in 100 very long shot chance imo.
This^^^^ spot on instant
I think what you mean to say is that after the SEC went from 6 conference games to 8 conference games, we no longer had room on our schedule for both Miami and FSU, and we had to drop one. I'm sure that's what you meant to say, because saying that UF "chickened out" would make you a dumbass, and you aren't a dumbass, right?
I think you chickened out well before that. It wasn't even Labor Day in 1987 when your Heisman candidate Kerwin Bell got shut out in the Orange Bowl by an INDEPENDEENT before the season even started. Of course it was less shocking then because Florida had yet to even win its conference back in 1987.
The SEC went to 7 conference games in 1987 and went to 8 in 1991. When the SEC went to 7 we decided to "part time" the Miami game, having it 2 out of every 6 years so we could schedule some other teams as well. It went to 8 games in 1991 and we dropped them entirely at that point.
Do you realize that we split the last 6 games 3-3, and of Miami's 3 wins, one was by 12 and one was by 8? Not much to fear there. They beat us 31-4 in 1987, when the sanctions were hitting us the hardest. 3 years later, we had Spurs, and would have been kicking Cane ass with regularity once again. So chickened out? In your wet dreams.
Oh, and btw, you have proven, beyond doubt, that you are a dumbass. I tried to give you an out, but like a dumbass, you wouldn't take it.
Seems somebody forgot that UM avg. 1 1/2 losses per yr with Erickson vs. 10 1/2 wins and a NC. from ' 89-' 95 Sure Spurs would just own them. And you call others DA?
Chickenchit is not joining the SEC when given the chance to do so, but instead opting out for the All Cupcake Conference 'so you could play for more media-moron NC's.' (per Blobby Bowdown)
DA is not admitting that both the criminoles and the scUM thugs NEED the game vs UF, while UF has an SEC schedule and therefore doesn't need anything from the 2nd tier ACC chumps.
Double DA is coming here to the Gator board to beg for some little brother validation.
(notice we're not on the crim's 'snore-rant' debating this idiot bs)
DA is not admitting that both the criminoles and the scUM thugs NEED the game vs UF, while UF has an SEC schedule and therefore doesn't need anything from the 2nd tier ACC chumps.
Double DA is coming here to the Gator board to beg for some little brother validation.
(notice we're not on the crim's 'snore-rant' debating this idiot bs)
Chickenchit is not joining the SEC when given the chance to do so, but instead opting out for the All Cupcake Conference 'so you could play for more media-moron NC's.' (per Blobby Bowdown)
DA is not admitting that both the criminoles and the scUM thugs NEED the game vs UF, while UF has an SEC schedule and therefore doesn't need anything from the 2nd tier ACC chumps.
Double DA is coming here to the Gator board to beg for some little brother validation.
(notice we're not on the crim's 'snore-rant' debating this idiot bs)
As per usual. A dimwit writing fantasy like his hero Sitchin. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.
Half the time would be pretty regular, and the season series at the time was basically tied.
You seem to forget we won over 100 games in the 90's. We were a force to be reckoned with..
The idea that UF was chicken is a cute fantasy concocted by the haters. As for UF not beating them because they were good, I believe we kicked their ass the year they won their first national title. So much for that theory.
The reality is, Miami had no dominance over us when the series was cut off. They beat us two whole years in a row while we were down 20 scholarships from probation. Not what I would call a tremendous accomplishment. And when we got back up to full force a couple years later, we were one of the nation's elite teams. Don't try to kid yourself otherwise.
Had you said with Spurs coming in that you'd have continued to win half the UM rivalry games, I'd make no exception or disagree at all.
I dont recall any UF coach or admin saying it would be easier for us to win a title by dropping um. Seriously, only a true nitwit doesn't realize it was a pure money play. Unfortunately we the fans lost out.
All I said was with regularity. You interpreted that as dominance. I can't help that.
What so few know (younger gen) or want to remember (older gen) about the core reason that the scUM thugs were dropped from the UF schedule is this.
Why was that annual game moved from a home & home to Orlando and Tampa before finally being dumped? It was because of the trashed property and cars on game days. It got so bad when going to the old run-down Orange Bowl that most Gator fans either went on bus trips, or they rented a car and then bought the extra insurance....
The first attempt to solve the problem was to move the games to neutral sites (Tampa and Orlando). That worked somewhat, but then the violence switched from property vandalism to fights that happened post game initially, and then both per game and post game eventually.
If I remember correctly, there were something like 67 arrests and then the next year 83 arrests for violence (fights) when the game was held in Tampa, and it had been escalating from year to year. (30+ years ago so my arrest numbers might not be exact, but they are fairly close and the exact number is not the important part anyway) Dumping the scUM had very little if anything to do with the on the field outcomes. It had everything to do with dumping the game before anyone got killed, which was where it was heading. The mutual hatred had built up to the point that dumping that game from the schedule is all that made any sense. At the time, they thought that dropping the game for a few years would settle things down enough to restart it at some future point but games since then have proven that the game should remain off UF's schedule. An occasional bowl game is manageable, but not putting them back on a regular year to year schedule.
~ I remember reading an article in the old Sunday Tampa Tribune about the growing number of fights and arrests associated with the game.
Their fans (reFSUcks & scUM) want to call UF chickens for dumping that scUM thug game, in a weak attempt to draw attention away from the rather obvious FACT that both of those chicken-chits refused to play a season long SEC schedule (that would have included a game vs UF) instead of a pack of cupcakes that would virtually guarantee them at least 10 wins with few injuries and a much better chance to play for a mNC. In a rare moment of honesty, Bowdown even admitted that was his reason.
And because of that build in advantage for both of them, I'd be just fine with also dumping the tallycrappy criminoles too. Letting the thugs and the crims play for a state of Florida Championship Ring every year would be just fine with me, while the Gators continue to play for an SEC-C Ring....
Why was that annual game moved from a home & home to Orlando and Tampa before finally being dumped? It was because of the trashed property and cars on game days. It got so bad when going to the old run-down Orange Bowl that most Gator fans either went on bus trips, or they rented a car and then bought the extra insurance....
The first attempt to solve the problem was to move the games to neutral sites (Tampa and Orlando). That worked somewhat, but then the violence switched from property vandalism to fights that happened post game initially, and then both per game and post game eventually.
If I remember correctly, there were something like 67 arrests and then the next year 83 arrests for violence (fights) when the game was held in Tampa, and it had been escalating from year to year. (30+ years ago so my arrest numbers might not be exact, but they are fairly close and the exact number is not the important part anyway) Dumping the scUM had very little if anything to do with the on the field outcomes. It had everything to do with dumping the game before anyone got killed, which was where it was heading. The mutual hatred had built up to the point that dumping that game from the schedule is all that made any sense. At the time, they thought that dropping the game for a few years would settle things down enough to restart it at some future point but games since then have proven that the game should remain off UF's schedule. An occasional bowl game is manageable, but not putting them back on a regular year to year schedule.
~ I remember reading an article in the old Sunday Tampa Tribune about the growing number of fights and arrests associated with the game.
Their fans (reFSUcks & scUM) want to call UF chickens for dumping that scUM thug game, in a weak attempt to draw attention away from the rather obvious FACT that both of those chicken-chits refused to play a season long SEC schedule (that would have included a game vs UF) instead of a pack of cupcakes that would virtually guarantee them at least 10 wins with few injuries and a much better chance to play for a mNC. In a rare moment of honesty, Bowdown even admitted that was his reason.
And because of that build in advantage for both of them, I'd be just fine with also dumping the tallycrappy criminoles too. Letting the thugs and the crims play for a state of Florida Championship Ring every year would be just fine with me, while the Gators continue to play for an SEC-C Ring....
Yay another exciting post from everyone's favorite.
Every post Insta makes when he's trying to argue a lengthy point:
"Fun fact....
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Blsh
"@&$@&@&&!&@!&@&
Zzzzzzzzzzzzz
....Florida is awesome, but that's JMHO
Every post Insta makes when he's trying to argue a lengthy point:
"Fun fact....
Blah
Blah
Blsh
"@&$@&@&&!&@!&@&
Zzzzzzzzzzzzz
....Florida is awesome, but that's JMHO
We chickened out of playing Miami and you guys chickened out of joining the SEC.
So, we chickened out of one tough game per year and you guys chickened out of a full SEC schedule every year.
What so few know (younger gen) or want to remember (older gen) about the core reason that the scUM thugs were dropped from the UF schedule is this.
Why was that annual game moved from a home & home to Orlando and Tampa before finally being dumped? It was because of the trashed property and cars on game days. It got so bad when going to the old run-down Orange Bowl that most Gator fans either went on bus trips, or they rented a car and then bought the extra insurance....
The first attempt to solve the problem was to move the games to neutral sites (Tampa and Orlando). That worked somewhat, but then the violence switched from property vandalism to fights that happened post game initially, and then both per game and post game eventually.
If I remember correctly, there were something like 67 arrests and then the next year 83 arrests for violence (fights) when the game was held in Tampa, and it had been escalating from year to year. (30+ years ago so my arrest numbers might not be exact, but they are fairly close and the exact number is not the important part anyway) Dumping the scUM had very little if anything to do with the on the field outcomes. It had everything to do with dumping the game before anyone got killed, which was where it was heading. The mutual hatred had built up to the point that dumping that game from the schedule is all that made any sense. At the time, they thought that dropping the game for a few years would settle things down enough to restart it at some future point but games since then have proven that the game should remain off UF's schedule. An occasional bowl game is manageable, but not putting them back on a regular year to year schedule.
~ I remember reading an article in the old Sunday Tampa Tribune about the growing number of fights and arrests associated with the game.
Their fans (reFSUcks & scUM) want to call UF chickens for dumping that scUM thug game, in a weak attempt to draw attention away from the rather obvious FACT that both of those chicken-chits refused to play a season long SEC schedule (that would have included a game vs UF) instead of a pack of cupcakes that would virtually guarantee them at least 10 wins with few injuries and a much better chance to play for a mNC. In a rare moment of honesty, Bowdown even admitted that was his reason.
And because of that build in advantage for both of them, I'd be just fine with also dumping the tallycrappy criminoles too. Letting the thugs and the crims play for a state of Florida Championship Ring every year would be just fine with me, while the Gators continue to play for an SEC-C Ring....
Try to keep up there sport. FSU play
Since FSU has certainly had the gators number of late and the gators have run over the sec e , and FSU opened with a healthy OMiss last yr and a with Bama this yr, that full sec schedule does not really seem all that. FSU has a better SOS last yr and likley will this yr as well.
Let us in, let us in, let us in, (stomps feet and continues with), LET US IN......
Finally, the SEC says okay, you're good enough now and we are expanding the conference, so come on in.
reFSUcks response: Oh No Mr Bill --- they've called our bluff. Quick, let's join the Cupcakes instead, while we try to blame them for not letting us in all those other times that we begged them to... What a freakin' joke you twits are, and I've got your drunk swingin butt-bubba...
Let us in, let us in, let us in, (stomps feet and continues with), LET US IN......
Finally, the SEC says okay, you're good enough now and we are expanding the conference, so come on in.
reFSUcks response: Oh No Mr Bill --- they've called our bluff. Quick, let's join the Cupcakes instead, while we try to blame them for not letting us in all those other times that we begged them to... What a freakin' joke you twits are, and I've got your drunk swingin butt-bubba...
And in local news, self-proclaimed superior being blesses community with the phrase "drunk swingin butt-bubba."
Let us in, let us in, let us in, (stomps feet and continues with), LET US IN......
Finally, the SEC says okay, you're good enough now and we are expanding the conference, so come on in.
reFSUcks response: Oh No Mr Bill --- they've called our bluff. Quick, let's join the Cupcakes instead, while we try to blame them for not letting us in all those other times that we begged them to... What a freakin' joke you twits are, and I've got your drunk swingin butt-bubba...
Tap your heels three times and keep repeating this to yourself, twinkle toes.
Oh, and by being a little bitch about joining the SEC? FSU left tens of millions of dollars on the table
Let us in, let us in, let us in, (stomps feet and continues with), LET US IN......
Finally, the SEC says okay, you're good enough now and we are expanding the conference, so come on in.
reFSUcks response: Oh No Mr Bill --- they've called our bluff. Quick, let's join the Cupcakes instead, while we try to blame them for not letting us in all those other times that we begged them to... What a freakin' joke you twits are, and I've got your drunk swingin butt-bubba...
Insta fail..... again..... always....... as far off from the truth as Sitchin always was..... it figures.
Salty there MJ. Sorry to use like..... provable facts. But if it will make you feel better sport.... "o woe is us !"
What provable facts? That FSU begged the SEC for admission for decades? And when finally presented with an opportunity to join, they whimped out like whiny little brats? And that by doing so, they lost out on tens of millions of dollars? You mean facts like that?
