I am so sick and tired of the democrats arguing and complaining about lack of an immigration policy when they have all the power to change it and make it what they want. They have both houses and the presidency. Just like they had in Obama's first 2 years. Is the filibuster a problem? Then quit threatening to get rid of it and just get rid of it. I guess a logical person might just ask if they REALLY want to fix it when they have the power to do so, or do they just want to use it as a battering ram against Republicans year after year and never fix it. Seems like the answer is in their non action.
Why don't the democrats just pass a damn "comprehensive" immigration law instead of b****ing about it?
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We have just seen the tip of the iceberg dude. This country will not be recognizable in 4 years once they are done F - ing with it.
I am hoping the Republicans can get one of the 2 houses back at midterm to put the brakes to some of this s**t.
If they won back both the House and the Senate it’ll make Joe a senile executive order signer in chief.
And if they don’t think getting rid of the filibuster will bite them in the ass they aren’t looking at the big picture.
That said I have zero faith in election integrity. As Joe said yesterday, I’m not sure there will be a Republican Party moving forward.
That line about the existence of the Republican party sure stood out to me and everything the democrats do or threaten to do is to win elections in perpetuity and in effect rub out the republican party.
The Republicans had both too and did nothing. In my years living I have watched Clinton, Bush, Obama and Trump fail at immigration. I don't know why nobody can get something done but I fully expect Biden to fail as well.
Immigration fails as one party doesn’t mind letting people in and the other has no balls to do anything.
Finish the fence, put the military at the boarder and shoot to kill if they come over. I know, I know, this isn’t a South/North Korea boarder but it’s pretty effective.
There really isn’t a negative to crossing the boarder. You get through or you get caught. If you get caught then you go to jail (3 hots and a cot), get deported and do it all again. Where is the down fall? Charges get filed but no action after. These people are breaking federal laws by entering illegally but get nothing more but a slap on the wrist. If I was in their situation, I’m trying to cross over. Hell, I’m competitive enough I’d cross back over to Mexico to try to see if I could get away with crossing back into the US 🤷🏻♂️
Are you concerned about the boarder or immigration? My wife is an immigration lawyer and she told me that majority of the illegal immigrants get here by plane, they are people who overstay their visas.
I personally think that the boarder issue will never get fixed because everyone uses it as a campaign tool.
I’m talking the boarder with illegals crossing over from Mexico, not via plane. Those people can be tracked via visa.
So you're more concerned about tracking the immigrants? So knowing who's in the country Not? Not immigration overall?
You’re missing what I’m saying.
I’m not talking about immigrants that come via plane because they need a visa to get in, they can be tracked. Do I want them tracked? Only if they’re breaking the law. They are a guest in this country, they are not citizens and therefore do not have the right to any constitutional freedoms. Over staying your visa is breaking the law. If they can be contributing members of society, fast track their citizenship, I’m all for that.
What I don’t want is people who cross the boarder illegally. It has nothing to do with skin color and everything to do with abiding by the laws of the United States as well as the human trafficking and sex trafficking that is currently happening at the boarder. The amount of people illegally entering the country is in humane to the people that are at detention centers as well as the women and children being raped or killed. Then add the drug trafficking and covid.
It was irresponsible for the democrat candidates to say they would allow them in with no penalty. The influx has everything to do with the policy position of the democrat party and the president of the United States. The boarder detention centers are not capable of receiving the amount of people they are receiving and DHS doesn’t have the manpower to keep up.
If these people want to come to this country, they need to follow the citizenship path that millions of others have followed to gain citizenship into this country. If you want to have a debate on making the path easier, by all means lead the way, I probably agree with you on many of your positions.
I may sound like a dick, non caring, etc. I honestly don’t care how any of this sounds. Talk to the family members that have been murdered by an illegal immigrant. Is it fair their loved one lost their life because the morons in DC want to politicize human life? What about the women that have been raped.
I could go on but hopefully you understand my stance on this.
I don't want hear about people getting killed by illegal immigrants. That is so rare, that is equivalent to black people complaining about being unarmed black people being killed by police. The data shows is not really an issue or problem.
With that being said, I have zero interest in immigration and could care less. Not every issue is important to me and this is one of them. I was just trying to understand your view point. I respect your opinion on things, I'm not saying I agree or disagree.
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