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Whelp, looks like Ron is done.

If you are saying that the mainstream media intentionally helped Trump win the primary because they thought he was unelectable in the general election, I completely agree and have said so in the past.
Now THIS is one of the few things you have ever said on this board that's accurate. This is absolutely the case.

Then, as now, they've never understood Trump and why he's the most popular republican of all time.
 
DeSantis doesn’t need to switch parties.
He doesn't need to pursue running for President against the most popular Republican of all time, but here we are.

The dems could give a rat's ass about DeSantis, they will do anything to stop Trump.

In fact, I suspect the dems made sure Trump knew they were meeting with DeSantis, and that DeSantis was listening. They knew what Trump would do and what division that would cause among the pubs.

Again, if DeSantis doesn't listen to the dems, none of this plan goes forward. Don't forget that.

I could see a scenario where the dems pitch an idea to DeSantis: We want to move the party back to the middle, and we want you to take us there.
 
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Yes.

FOX, CNN, MSNBC, Disney, etc. All of them had a hand. Their executives have openly admitted that Trump was a highly profitable ratings bonanza. The endless wall-to-wall coverage they gave him helped Trump win.

At first but Fox the main one for the right totally turned on Trump after he won NH. It was laughable how much they went after him trying to make him lose. Fox also in 2015 early on tried to end Trump's run at that debate where that moderator lady was bragging beforehand that someone's run was probably going to be over after that Fox debate.
 
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He doesn't need to pursue running for President against the most popular Republican of all time, but here we are.

The dems could give a rat's ass about DeSantis, they will do anything to stop Trump.

In fact, I suspect the dems made sure Trump knew they were meeting with DeSantis, and that DeSantis was listening. They knew what Trump would do and what division that would cause among the pubs.

Again, if DeSantis doesn't listen to the dems, none of this plan goes forward. Don't forget that.

I could see a scenario where the dems pitch an idea to DeSantis: We want to move the party back to the middle, and we want you to take us there.

Almost as nutty a theory as thinking Durham is actually going to arrest those big FBI crooks after what he did charging the Clinton cronies. There is literally 0% chance the Dems would take DeSantis. Craziest mess I ever heard. Let me guess - did Brian Cates tell you that one also? 🤣 🤣
 
He doesn't need to pursue running for President against the most popular Republican of all time, but here we are.

The dems could give a rat's ass about DeSantis, they will do anything to stop Trump.

In fact, I suspect the dems made sure Trump knew they were meeting with DeSantis, and that DeSantis was listening. They knew what Trump would do and what division that would cause among the pubs.

Again, if DeSantis doesn't listen to the dems, none of this plan goes forward. Don't forget that.

I could see a scenario where the dems pitch an idea to DeSantis: We want to move the party back to the middle, and we want you to take us there.

I would be astonished if that happens. I think you overestimate how much Democrats like DeSantis. They hate him. They just hate him less than Trump.
 
I think you overestimate how much Democrats like DeSantis. They hate him.
Again, dems could care less about DeSantis, they view him as a potential tool to stop Trump, that's it.

If DeSantis is receptive to their ideas, and it appears he is, then I think based on how receptive he is, they could float the idea of rebranding the party as the 'people's' party, and he leads it.

Stopping Trump is the #1 mission of the democratic party. By any means necessary. Once you understand that, anything that leads to that is on the table.
 
Yo Cuz, it's aiight! DeSantis is staying in Florida for the duration of his 2nd term. Get over your DeSantis hate. You're starting to act like he's the resident libs darling here, Andrew Gillum.

I don't know whether he will serve 4 more or not but agree the rest is unhelpful.
 
I don't know whether he will serve 4 more or not but agree the rest is unhelpful.

Kind of to the point I really don't care what he does but its going to be pretty crazy in 2023 if gets talked into it. It will make conservative news a lot more interesting that is for sure.
 
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lol....At all these manufactured polls Club for Growth and all the other characters have produced to run with their all out assault against Trump in the Media. I am pretty sure he will survive this like their other 100 attempts to take him out.
 
lol....At all these manufactured polls Club for Growth and all the other characters have produced to run with their all out assault against Trump in the Media. I am pretty sure he will survive this like their other 100 attempts to take him out.
Conservative media hasn't written Trump off just yet. Caught a bit of the Mark Kaye show today. He's a huge fan of both Trump and DeSantis. He said some things that made a lot of sense. One, Trump is a national phenom. Outside of the south, DeSantis doesn't have much more fanfare than say the governor of Texas. He needs another term as governor, building the national rep. He's not ruling out not running in 24, because we don't know what Trump will do. Trump might decide not to run, or the Dimtards might try to have him arrested. It's what banana republics do, but here we are.

Finally, Kaye said the same thing I've been saying forever. It doesn't matter who the GOP nominee is, they will pull out all the stops to paint him as evil and a disciple of Satan. Get used to it, its what Dimtards do and who they are. Just remember mild mannered George W Bush. They called him Lucifer and threatened to leave for Canada. I wish they had.
 
Yes.

FOX, CNN, MSNBC, Disney, etc. All of them had a hand. Their executives have openly admitted that Trump was a highly profitable ratings bonanza. The endless wall-to-wall coverage they gave him helped Trump win.
They def did in 2016...but they were against him in 2020, and I believe that they are now also. Foxis 100% snowflake in upper management. Paul Ryan is the most conservative there...and he is really a lefty democrat. Trump ran him out of a job, much like Liz Cheney. The ESTABLISHMENT HATES Trump. I wish people could see through this. They are ALL in with each other for deals like Hunter got in Ukraine. Those people meet behind closed doors to see how they can string all of us along, so THEY can get paid. And Trump called them out. He was loud mouthed and brash..but he got rid of MANY RINO's
 
Conservative media hasn't written Trump off just yet. Caught a bit of the Mark Kaye show today. He's a huge fan of both Trump and DeSantis. He said some things that made a lot of sense. One, Trump is a national phenom. Outside of the south, DeSantis doesn't have much more fanfare than say the governor of Texas. He needs another term as governor, building the national rep. He's not ruling out not running in 24, because we don't know what Trump will do. Trump might decide not to run, or the Dimtards might try to have him arrested. It's what banana republics do, but here we are.

Finally, Kaye said the same thing I've been saying forever. It doesn't matter who the GOP nominee is, they will pull out all the stops to paint him as evil and a disciple of Satan. Get used to it, its what Dimtards do and who they are. Just remember mild mannered George W Bush. They called him Lucifer and threatened to leave for Canada. I wish they had.
Water is wet, the sun is very hot. The reason they all wanted Trump in 16 is because they thought he would be the easiest to beat. This is why they ALL covered his rallies. Notice that did not happen in 2020? And it does not happen now...unless you pay their streaming network. These people are ALL evil, and play ALL of us.
 
Water is wet, the sun is very hot. The reason they all wanted Trump in 16 is because they thought he would be the easiest to beat. This is why they ALL covered his rallies. Notice that did not happen in 2020? And it does not happen now...unless you pay their streaming network. These people are ALL evil, and play ALL of us.
To some degree. Also, 90% of RINOs and moderates hate the Skankipotimus with a the fury of 1000 suns. Biden's just a retard, doesn't generate as much bile.
 
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Again, dems could care less about DeSantis, they view him as a potential tool to stop Trump, that's it.

If DeSantis is receptive to their ideas, and it appears he is, then I think based on how receptive he is, they could float the idea of rebranding the party as the 'people's' party, and he leads it.

Stopping Trump is the #1 mission of the democratic party. By any means necessary. Once you understand that, anything that leads to that is on the table.
I have not seen or heard anything other than rumors so far. DeSantis is too smart to be played by the left. I will let things unfold before I rush to that judgement. I really wish Trump would not keep poking DeSantis. He is not the enemy...democrats are.
 
Well TN went 2-1 for Trump both times. TN went 2-1 for the governor this year. This state save Memphis and Nashville is solid red. Listening to conservative radio and switching between two stations I heard one Trump supporter still all in.

All the other calls were for him to move on and for Desantis to be the leader. All were pretty much in agreement that attacking other pubs is the reason they are moving on.

Just anecdotal but it seems his bullying tactics which were a strength in 2016 are costing him support in 2022 at least among conservatives in TN.
 
Looking at DeSantis press conference its looking even more likely he is going to jump in bed with the establishment and run. Hopefully Trump plays their game correctly and doesn't let this fester too long before just coming right out and pointing out that this is the Paul Ryan and Jeb Bush backers behind the scenes with all the money.
 
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