No, let every team have their own TV channel if they chose to do so. I mean why not? Never understood why conferences and such are so opposed to a college team having it's on tv channel. Especially with subscription streaming stuff now a days.
What's up with these Texas and Oklahoma wanting to join SEC rumors?
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WVU to the ACC
Iowa State and Kansas State to B1G
TCU and Oklahoma to the PAC 12
Baylor, Texas Tech, and Kansas to the AAC
The Longhorn network has been a fail….ESPN will be glad to shitcan it…
Bama moving from the west might keep 4 votes from happening if its teams like the Miss schools that might oppose. Hard to say I guess.
There's just not enough content for a single school to fill all the hours, and the subscription base is too small to do a Netflix type streaming service.
The New & Improved SEC (they wish)....
SECe -- VU-UK-SCa-TN-UG-UF-AU-UA
SECw/w -- Ark-aTm-Mizz-OK-TX-Ms-MsSt-LSU
IMOHO, you can't discuss this proposed expansion and re-alignment without the use of the word CLUSTER being intimately involved....
In honor of all the now 5 Big-12-10-whatever teams, do we also rename the conference the South Eastern/Western Conference, (SEWC)
SECe -- VU-UK-SCa-TN-UG-UF-AU-UA
SECw/w -- Ark-aTm-Mizz-OK-TX-Ms-MsSt-LSU
IMOHO, you can't discuss this proposed expansion and re-alignment without the use of the word CLUSTER being intimately involved....
In honor of all the now 5 Big-12-10-whatever teams, do we also rename the conference the South Eastern/Western Conference, (SEWC)
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I've heard that it's going to happen. The SEC is the new NFL.
The Pac 12-Mountain West are going to be selling BBQ sauce with coach 'it's kind of cool ain't it'. Those conferences better hope for a 12 team playoff because they will never get it.
Regardless, have a school can fill the time slots or not I cringe when people say "would a conference take them because they have their own TV channel?"
Who really GAF? I'd take Texas in the SEC and not lose one ounce of sleep because they have the LHN.
But Sankey would. Everybody has to be the same for it to work.
Let’s just hope another word that commonly follows the word “CLUSTER” is not “involved”….
Putting OU in the East must be a temporary solution. There are no natural rivalries for them this way, although it does give them Texas as their permanent West opponent. This must just be a holding position until everything shakes out and we see whether any more teams get added, plus it will give the schedulers a chance to rearrange things a few years out rather than requiring major changes in 2022, which would cause chaos. It will be hard enough to squeeze Oklahoma onto all the East team's schedules as it is. Will we go to 9 conference games? That seems the next major question.
I woun’t be surprised if WVU to the ACC is announced in the next few days. They almost did it a few years ago. It’s “eat or be eaten.”
Yep the remaining Big 12 teams are going to be trying to find a place to land most likely. I doubt the Big 12 can survive this.
Trying to think if the Pac 12 would even consider expanding since the remaining schools aren't that big time and are that far east of their area now. Would probably take some big incentives for them to expand.
Who would the ACC take in addition to WV as ND isnt a football division school?
I do think the Big 10 will go to 16 but who do they take? Iowa State possibly and either K State or OK State?
ive already posted my scenario.
Pods are silly.
move Alabama and Auburn to the East, Oklahoma, Texas and Missouri in the West. A near perfect geographical split. All the meaningful rivalries are intact AND you get some back (Florida and Auburn) as well getting great Alabama and Florida/Georgia matchups.
10 conference games. No cross-division rival. You get (check my math) home and homes with every team in the divisional completed every 6 years.
you get to keep two OOC games so you can book whomever or keep your traditional rival (if it applies). With a conference schedule like that, no one can argue that you need to bolster your OOC.
Kansas has made overtures to the Big10, which makes sense. Iowa State would likely also end up there so that's you 16 team Big 10.
ACC picks up West Virginia. I guess Notre Dame keeps dicking around. So maybe They stay out at 15.5 teams?
there's been talk that the PAC 12 should take advantage of this. I'm not sure who fits. But I guess you could feasibly take Oklahoma State, Baylor and TCU then add either Texas Tech or Boise State.
there's your 4 super conferences. But here's where it gets interesting. That leaves Notre Dame and to a lesser extent, BYU, in a tricky place. The schedule for the Big10 and Pac12 teams that Notre Dame is desperately holding onto make it much more difficult to maintain. Even worse for BYU. So Notre Dame either needs to get into the Big10 before they go with Kansas and Iowa State, or they need to join the ACC full time. In that scenario, BYU to the Pac14 over Texas Tech or Boise State.
alternatively, the now Big8 (before the other teams make an exodus) convince Nebraska to come back then add UCF, USF and....Memphis? And get back to 12. More TV markets, conference stays viable. I don't think that's likely. And honestly. I'm not sure any of those AAC schools would leave just to go form as a second basically identically conference.
so ponder that.
TCU and Oklahoma State are or were just as big and competitive as Utah is/was back when they took them.
I think your setup is pretty good. Very workable.
The piece that's missing is if the SEC is plotting any additional moves we don't know about yet, which of course you don't know, none of us knows. So what I'm saying is I think OU is being put in the East temporarily for ease of scheduling until everything else shakes out.
"Tell me you know nothing about the history of conference realignment without telling me you know nothing about the history of conference realignment."
Where are the Big 8 teams now? Where are the SWC teams now? And the Big 12 (which hasn’t been 12 in a while)? At least the SEC, Big 10, ACC, and the PAC 12 have kept their core teams. Just saying.
The SEC is overrated.
Sincerely,
Noles and Canes fans since I have been alive.
Sincerely,
Noles and Canes fans since I have been alive.
It seriously doesn’t seem like it was all that long ago (earlier 2000’s) where “experts” were seriously debating whether the Big 12 was the strongest conference in college football.
It is amazing how things have changed in the last 10-15 years.
If sadgator was in charge of the remaining Big 12, he would definitely go raid some of the better AAC teams (like UCF, Memphis, Houston, and Cincinnati) and get that league back up to 12 with a league championship game.
With those teams added to the remaining Big 12 teams like OK State, Iowa State, WV, and KSU, that could be a really competitive league. It would at least be close to being on par with the ACC.
It is amazing how things have changed in the last 10-15 years.
If sadgator was in charge of the remaining Big 12, he would definitely go raid some of the better AAC teams (like UCF, Memphis, Houston, and Cincinnati) and get that league back up to 12 with a league championship game.
With those teams added to the remaining Big 12 teams like OK State, Iowa State, WV, and KSU, that could be a really competitive league. It would at least be close to being on par with the ACC.
first thing B12 needs to do is end uneven revenue sharing immediately
Unfortunately, strength of teams is only one part of the equation. The other (and larger) part is eyeballs. The middle of the country (other than Texas) is a lot of land with not a lot of people. It used to be that the conferences were a mix, but nowadays it seems like everybody is chasing that advertising dollar, so the big market teams are being courted at the expense of the small market teams.
This is why the Big 12 you are suggesting would never be the power you think it would. It's just not going to generate much money. Those schools would fall further and further behind in the facilities arms race, wouldn't be able to keep good coaches, etc. You think it's haves and have nots now, just wait.
I wonder how much longer Vandy is going to last in the SEC. They are taking up a slot that could go to a school like North Carolina, a big school with a lot to offer, including a major population area.
I’d be shocked if they had the nerve to boot Vandy. Vandy is a founding member and they help keep the SEC average USNews college ranking in the double digits.
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The SEC nabbing UNC is the scenario that worries me the most. Like it or not, UNC is the biggest dog in the ACC pound. If SEC poaches them, the ACC is toast. I can see the B1G making a move as well.
That said, I’m not sure if the step up in football would be worth it to a predominantly basketball school with half of their current conference opponents already within convenient driving distance of their campus. They would also have to give up their Texas-in-the-Big12-like political dominance of the ACC in exchange for being just another school in the SEC or the B1G.
My pods:
FL GA UK SC
BAMA AUBURN Tenn VANDY
MSU MISS LSU ARK
Texas OU A&M MIZZOU
Maybe swap A&M and Arkansas.
FL GA UK SC
BAMA AUBURN Tenn VANDY
MSU MISS LSU ARK
Texas OU A&M MIZZOU
Maybe swap A&M and Arkansas.
Are people on Twitter serious with these Michigan/OSU to the SEC rumors? I don’t see what either school gains from that.
Some girls like to be spanked.
If you see a fox exiting a chicken coup with a mouthful of feathers and a bunch of dead chickens in the coup it’s pretty easy to see something happened.
You could always actually learn about the history of, for instance, the SWC and realignment rather than applying completely inapt analogies to it. Or not, I guess.
It was another chicken in a fox suit…no offense, but you’d make a shitty detective…
Then enlighten your new conference brethren. As it stands now the perception of Texas across the country is that you’re a toxic program. The mass exodus of Colorado, Nebraska, Mizzou, and A&M is that they were tired of being dictated to by the powers that be residing in Austin. Those of us old enough, remember what happened to SMU and as stupid as they were they weren’t doing anything differently than the rest of the corrupt SWC (or most of college football) but they were a scapegoat for the blue bloods of the SWC.
You guys may not like the perception but if it’s off target people are all ears to hear how Texas hasn’t been at the center of two conferences falling in on themselves.
