What's up with these Texas and Oklahoma wanting to join SEC rumors?
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No, it's just more off-season BS....
But why not?
Because their greedy bread is $$ buttered in what's left of the weak Big12/10/whatever.
While they might need or want the SEC, the SEC neither wants nor needs them.....
But why not?
Because their greedy bread is $$ buttered in what's left of the weak Big12/10/whatever.
While they might need or want the SEC, the SEC neither wants nor needs them.....
Texas has already destroyed two conferences and bringing down a third. No thanks!
Well, they called TAMU traitors and declared they would never play them again in anything after they joined the SEC, it would take a Texas-sized backpedal for them to come to the SEC hat in hand and ask to join. If I were TAMU I'd vote against them.
Of course, none of this is true, it's just them trying to renegotiate with the rest of the Big 12 for a bigger slice of the pie.
Of course, none of this is true, it's just them trying to renegotiate with the rest of the Big 12 for a bigger slice of the pie.
Texas is enamored with itself (fans,alumnI) for no good reason.
To me there is absolutely no reason for texas and OU to join the SEC and there is no reason for the SEC to want them. Why would the SEC want them? Now it does make sense for Texas and OU to join the ACC, we could use 2 more premiere programs. You guys are loaded already, this would effectively collapse the big 12.
I would love UT and OU to join the SEC!
"If Texas and OU were to join the conference, it could cause the SEC to look in another direction to schedule games, one that could look more like a pod-system with smaller divisions and more rotating opponents, much like Mullen is calling for. This proposed system could see Florida keep its regular Georgia rivalry, but also get to play against other schools such as Alabama, Auburn and Texas A&M more than once or twice in ten years."
A pod system??
A pod system??
It is being discussed on the SEC Network and they are taking about 4 pods with 4 teams in each pod. Sounds like there is some legitimacy to this and this would just make the SEC a super conference. It’s all about money and nobody makes money like the SEC.
Neither pods nor decimal points belong in college football….
I just don't see it.
The SEC just signed a $3B 10 year TV deal starting in 2024 with Disney/ABC/ESPN. The time to bring in new teams was BEFORE negotiations, not after. And frankly, they don't bring much to the table. TAMU already delivers the Texas market, and the Okie market is too small to worry about. Remember, none of this is ever about competitiveness, it's always and only about $$$. Follow the money.
What I see is Texas and Okie being jealous of the SEC money and deciding they want to get the same amount of pie, and them trying to hold the Big 12 hostage for an unequal sharing of their TV money, so that the Big 2 get SEC level money at the expense of the others, and this posturing is to scare the little 10 into giving them what they want.
I just want to see a bunch of cool games. I am all for the Red River SHOOTOUT coming to the SEC.
The Red River Rivalry is @ gay.
The Red River Rivalry is @ gay.
No, it's just more off-season BS....
But why not?
Because their greedy bread is $$ buttered in what's left of the weak Big12/10/whatever.
While they might need or want the SEC, the SEC neither wants nor needs them.....
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I'm cool with TexAss and OU joining the SEC as long the SEC gets rid of 2 other teams currently in the conference, preferably the Cocks and Arkansas.
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Everything is BIGGER in Texas, including EGO & ARROGANCE....
if you want to be the best, then you have to compete against the best, and all that Texas and Oklahoma have,,, is playing each other....
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No, it's just more off-season BS....
But why not?
Because their greedy bread is $$ buttered in what's left of the weak Big12/10/whatever.
While they might need or want the SEC, the SEC neither wants nor needs them.....
Both have been fading fast for the last 15-20 years....
Since 2003, SEC teams have won 12 of the 18 NC's.
2000 -- Oklahoma
2001 - Mi-Am-I
2002 - Schmuckeyes - UGly was 13-1 losing only to UF by a TD in Jax.
2004 - Toe-jams was over-turned -- AU was 13-0 but didn't get to play for it.
2005 -- Texas
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2013 - Criminoles
2014 - Schmuckeyes
2016 - Clemp's-son
2018 - Clemp's-son
2003 - LSU
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2006 - UF
2007 - LSU
2008 - UF
2009 - UA
2010 - AU
2011 - UA
2012 - UA
NCAA Record 7 Consecutive SEC NC's by 4 different teams.
2015 - UA
2017 - UA
2019 - LSU
2020 - UA
And the SEC has won 4 of the last 6, with Clemp's-son getting the other 2.
They keep on throwing losers like the Neutered Lame and Choke-la-homo into the CFP, only to have them get beat yet again....
2020 UA 31 - 14 Neutered Lame
2019 LSU 63 - 28 Chokers
2018 UA 45 - 34 Chokers
2017 UGly 54 - 48 Chokers
Bonus, or maybe Boner - 2012 UA 42 - 14 Neutered Lame
Instead of TX/OK joining the SEC, they should just take the NL and BSU into the Big12-10-whatever to at least re-qualify for a Conf. Championship game, that the NCAA has been letting them play anyway outside of the 12 team minimum rules....
So, since 2000, this century.....
The Lac-12 has had 1 NC - USC's negated by NCAA for cheating.
The Big-10/12 has 2 NC's
The Rose Bowl has become the 'Also Ran' bowl...
The Big-12/10/whatever has 2 and has always been a 2 team joke.
The #2 ACC has 4 NC with 3 different teams.
The #1 Mighty SEC has 12 NC's by 4 different teams.
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No doubt. Regarding this rumor, I read some "high up on the ladder" person(can't remember who) from Texas A&M made a press release that they want to be the only school from Texas in the SEC.
Regarding OU, I have a feeling they would get stuck in the East division and I doubt UF, UGA...or pretty much any of the others would vote for this situation.
It's pretty much a good deal for UF and UGA to battle it out to win the division, and they don't need any more serious competition. UT is the darkhorse continually looking to reclaim a contender position. Missouri probably felt like they just got away from OU not that long ago. UK and USC doesn't want their delusions of grandeur taking an even bigger risk. Vandy....well....probably not.
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The way it is set up now, either OU or Texas can win the Big “12” every year and basically “auto-bid” into the playoff.
sadgator understands the money, but why you would give up that “auto-bid” to essentially get your ass kicked week in and week out in the SEC is beyond sadgator.
It reminds sadgator of when Miami voluntarily gave up its Big East perennial
“free pass” into BCS Bowls every season…
sure they might have received some more money from the ACC, but they’ve pretty much sucked ever since…
sadgator understands the money, but why you would give up that “auto-bid” to essentially get your ass kicked week in and week out in the SEC is beyond sadgator.
It reminds sadgator of when Miami voluntarily gave up its Big East perennial
“free pass” into BCS Bowls every season…
sure they might have received some more money from the ACC, but they’ve pretty much sucked ever since…
Looks like it might be a done deal;
From.Kirk Bohls Twitter (Austin writer):
Prominent Big 12 source tells the American-Statesman the Texas-OU move to the SEC is almost done. "They've been working on this for a minimum of 6 months, and the A&M leadership was left out of discussions and wasn't told about it." Move could become official in a week.
From.Kirk Bohls Twitter (Austin writer):
Prominent Big 12 source tells the American-Statesman the Texas-OU move to the SEC is almost done. "They've been working on this for a minimum of 6 months, and the A&M leadership was left out of discussions and wasn't told about it." Move could become official in a week.
You believe OU would get its azz kicked week in and out in the SEC? That UT would have no success?
Interesting. You may be right, but we will have to wait and see. 😉
If that is true what is the deal with the new setup - four 16 team conferences for major college football? They better not be giving Texas a sweetheart deal like they got from the Big 12 with TV etc.
OU and Texas (especially when they unscrew themselves) can compete in the SEC but the SEC will be a literal slaughterhouse now.
IMO "reached out to" means diddly. Let's see some signed contracts.
But just for funsies, what would a 16 team, two division, four pod conference look like?
Well, to get an SEC champ the title game is now a four team playoff. Or, we split into an SEC East and SEC West co-conference situation for title games without playing for an overall SEC champ, but we could still choose the overall champ, it would just have to be strictly on record. I doubt the NCAA would sanction a 4 team SEC playoff, but who knows? We do drive the bus these days.
What would the four pods be and what would be the schedules?
My guess on the four pods. The way I see the schedules there will be no permanent rivalries outside of your own pod, so rivals will have to be grouped together. (I don't know what they would name them, I can't see them being directional, so I will just give them silly names.)
Eastern Division
Palmetto Pod
Florida
Georgia
South Carolina
Kentucky
Hillbilly Pod
Tennessee
Vandy
Missouri
LSU
Western Division
Redneck Pod
Alabama
Auburn
Mississippi
Miss State
Big 12 Escapee Pod
Texas
Texas A&M
Arkansas
Oklahoma
Yes, I know LSU gets the "easy" division, but this is fairly geographic and keeps most of the important rivalries.
For the schedule, it would be sort of NFL based. Play your pod, that's 3 games. Play one pod from the other division that's 4 more games (this swaps annually), for the other two divisions play two teams on a home and home basis, which is offset by a year so every year one team is coming on and one team is dropping off, that's two more games.
That's a total of nine games.
This setup and schedule keeps most of the top rivalries on an annual basis, and every four years you have played everybody in every other pod twice. Every year you swap in five different teams onto your schedule. Teams in each pod now have a minimum of 6 common opponents out of the 8 games where they are not facing each other.
Let's look at a set of sample schedules, in a year where the Palmetto pod is playing the Redneck pod and the Hillbilly pod is playing the Big 12 escapee pod. Let's look at the Palmetto pod.
Florida would play: Georgia would play: So Car would play: UK would play:
From Palmetto: From Palmetto: From Palmetto: From Palmetto:
Georgia Florida Florida Florida
South Carolina South Carolina Georgia Georgia
Kentucky Kentucky Kentucky So Car
From Redneck: From Redneck: From Redneck: From Redneck:
Alabama Alabama Alabama Alabama
Auburn Auburn Auburn Auburn
Mississippi Mississippi Mississippi Mississippi
Miss State Miss State Miss State Miss State
From Hillbilly: From Hillbilly: From Hillbilly: From Hillbilly:
Tennessee Missouri Vandy LSU
Missouri Vandy LSU Tennessee
Other than the issue with the title game, this could really work.
But just for funsies, what would a 16 team, two division, four pod conference look like?
Well, to get an SEC champ the title game is now a four team playoff. Or, we split into an SEC East and SEC West co-conference situation for title games without playing for an overall SEC champ, but we could still choose the overall champ, it would just have to be strictly on record. I doubt the NCAA would sanction a 4 team SEC playoff, but who knows? We do drive the bus these days.
What would the four pods be and what would be the schedules?
My guess on the four pods. The way I see the schedules there will be no permanent rivalries outside of your own pod, so rivals will have to be grouped together. (I don't know what they would name them, I can't see them being directional, so I will just give them silly names.)
Eastern Division
Palmetto Pod
Florida
Georgia
South Carolina
Kentucky
Hillbilly Pod
Tennessee
Vandy
Missouri
LSU
Western Division
Redneck Pod
Alabama
Auburn
Mississippi
Miss State
Big 12 Escapee Pod
Texas
Texas A&M
Arkansas
Oklahoma
Yes, I know LSU gets the "easy" division, but this is fairly geographic and keeps most of the important rivalries.
For the schedule, it would be sort of NFL based. Play your pod, that's 3 games. Play one pod from the other division that's 4 more games (this swaps annually), for the other two divisions play two teams on a home and home basis, which is offset by a year so every year one team is coming on and one team is dropping off, that's two more games.
That's a total of nine games.
This setup and schedule keeps most of the top rivalries on an annual basis, and every four years you have played everybody in every other pod twice. Every year you swap in five different teams onto your schedule. Teams in each pod now have a minimum of 6 common opponents out of the 8 games where they are not facing each other.
Let's look at a set of sample schedules, in a year where the Palmetto pod is playing the Redneck pod and the Hillbilly pod is playing the Big 12 escapee pod. Let's look at the Palmetto pod.
Florida would play: Georgia would play: So Car would play: UK would play:
From Palmetto: From Palmetto: From Palmetto: From Palmetto:
Georgia Florida Florida Florida
South Carolina South Carolina Georgia Georgia
Kentucky Kentucky Kentucky So Car
From Redneck: From Redneck: From Redneck: From Redneck:
Alabama Alabama Alabama Alabama
Auburn Auburn Auburn Auburn
Mississippi Mississippi Mississippi Mississippi
Miss State Miss State Miss State Miss State
From Hillbilly: From Hillbilly: From Hillbilly: From Hillbilly:
Tennessee Missouri Vandy LSU
Missouri Vandy LSU Tennessee
Other than the issue with the title game, this could really work.
Personally, IF the SEC has to further expand, then I'd rather go here than there. (taking aTm was bad enough)
Chokers 2000 NC
Miami 2001 NC
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Short horns 2005 NC
FSUcks 2013 NC
And what about the Big12's media contracts that run until 2025?
Chokers 2000 NC
Miami 2001 NC
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Short horns 2005 NC
FSUcks 2013 NC
And what about the Big12's media contracts that run until 2025?
Is there any chance at all A&M could find 3 other teams to oppose this? Maybe not if this has been under wraps this long. This is going to be some crazy scheduling and difficult schedules for many teams.
Nothing to think about. Basketball, having more games, is more easily configurable. WIll have a 16 team SEC tournament. It's all good.
I guess my question is why in the hell would the SEC want to add Texas ? I can see Oklahoma - good get - but you're talking about a program (Texas) that has to have everything their way - sort of like Notre Dame. I believe both the ACC and the B1G both negotiated with Texas in the past but broke it off because their demands were unrealistic. Texas has basically destroyed every league they've been in and been called a cancer by many. Would really like to know what went on behind the scenes between the SEC and Texas
I am curious also if Texas got any special treatment. Being its the SEC they might not have but I know they have a separate TV channel deal - does the SEC put an end to that?
Add Arkansas to the Hillbilly Pod and put Mizzou in the Big 12 escapee Pod. Arkansas never really was Big 12...and they are pretty hillbilly.
LSU is the obvious second opposing vote. I would think surely two other teams would oppose it. But who knows.
this pod nonsense is unnecessary.
Move Alabama and Auburn to the East and play 10 conference games with no ridiculous permanent cross divisional rival. The only reason that exists in the first place is so Auburn can play Georgia and Bama can play Tennessee. Problem solved.
Id love to move Missouri to the west as well but the only way to do that is to move Miss State to the East and then you have the same stupid argument about cross divisional rivals.
Honestly, the bigger question is what the now Big 8 has to do. I would think they're only option is to basically dissolve and split the remaining teams among the AAC and whomever else. I could see that working.
so in my scenario:
SEC EAST:
Alabama
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
SEC WEST:
Arkansas
LSU
Mississippi State
Missouri
Oklahoma
Ole Miss
Texas
Texas A&M
I don't know why I managed to make Missouri in the west but once I typed it out it worked.
10 game conference play.
home-and home and rotating off 3 opposite divisions.
now you play play your two OOC. Whether it's a long standing OOC rival or pick-ems.
done.
I actually like that.
Danny literally just became a math wizard before our eyes…
sadgator’s gonna be working that problem out in his head all day…
