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The good thing for me as a long time Gator fan, is what you or ole fevered brain thinks about anything, won't matter at all to the results.

White takes over a loser 16-17 team.
1st season wins 21 game and goes to the NIT
2nd season NCAA Elite 8
3rd season NCAA 32 without C 6-11 155 Egbunu
20+ wins during his first 3 consecutive season. :cool:
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4th season likely NCAA ?? without C 6-11 254 Gak, or C.Johnson, or K.Stone.
NIT for sure if something bad happens in the next few weeks.

The usual trolls can think, say, spew, anything they want to, but I doubt that many Gator fans will G-a-S what they do... o_O
 
instaGATOR said:
The good thing for me as a long time Gator fan, is what you or ole fevered brain thinks about anything, won't matter at all to the results.

White takes over a loser 16-17 team.
1st season wins 21 game and goes to the NIT
2nd season NCAA Elite 8
3rd season NCAA 32 without C 6-11 155 Egbunu
20+ wins during his first 3 consecutive season. :cool:
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4th season likely NCAA ?? without C 6-11 254 Gak, or C.Johnson, or K.Stone.
NIT for sure if something bad happens in the next few weeks.

The usual trolls can think, say, spew, anything they want to, but I doubt that many Gator fans will G-a-S what they do... o_O
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Being old doesn't make you better.

It makes you old and stubborn in your case.

White's offense isn't hard to watch at times because the players don't make shots, it's hard to watch because his offense is completely reliant upon making shots, and he doesn't really have a scheme that opens up shots when the initial one isn't there.

For all your supposed basketball knowledge, you don't seem to grasp that.

Now, my biggest critique is scheme and adjustment, while Pacos seems to be scheme and development.

I think it's problematic that when the team is cold for long stretches of times, game after game after game even, that White doesn't seem to make adjustments. He rather stubbornly insists on going with the same scheme that, I personally, don't care for, because it IS so shooter based. One look offense on the perimeter.

That works if you have the talent, but when you don't, you have to adjust. That's true of every sport. One reason we all loved Spurrier is that he could and WOULD adjust. White seems content with losing of it means being consistent.

Right now, we're winning, the players are hitting better. That COULD be coaching, but what I HATE about his coaching is that he is stubborn with his scheme (which is bizarre because he has this whole "non-scheme scheme" which is kinda cutesie to begin with."

How anyone can argue with me that it's bad coaching to have a team that gets in a big slump and the coach won't adjust is beyond me. It implies to me that he CANT scheme well enough to overcome adversity....or he thinks he's got a long enough leash that he can weather very poor stretches of performances so that his philosophy "engravings" itself, regardless of they win or not.




Now insta will have childish and non-basketball related things to say, probably throw out some stats without real analysis or philosophy or really anything other than "dunnygoater is a circle jerker and when the team wins Iran because Mike White is amazing and inherited a shit program from Billy Donovan and when the team loses it's because they're a bunch of lazy selfish kids that won't do what Mike White tells them to do" propaganda.


But so be it.
 
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I can summarize it down to something a troll can understand. You're just as clueless and FoS as I'm come to expect, on any subject that you yap and spew about. o_O

Pitiful little attention beggar, kinda sad really, but here ya go,,, yet again.
Here to foul up yet another thread with his always village idiot smelly crap.
BothTotally Clueless and Boring is any ugly combination.

Never need to read his posts, because they are always going to be,,, what they are, and what he will always be. This asswipe stalker arrives to spread his usual crap, and to be the lonely despised drunk loser that he is... :confused:

There once was a goater named dunny,
who was always trying to be funny.
But with his head up his butt,
and a load of beer in his gutt,
when it came to the girls he got nunny...

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Scheme...shots...system...players...?

sadgator is no expert and has no idea why we win or lose, but all sadgator will say is getting a guy like Nembhard was huge for us...

Every time sadgator watches this team, he is like, “Thank goodness we have this guy....”
 
In the 1/2 court offense, you work the ball back and forth around the arc, looking for a pass inside to the post, or for a driving lane into the paint. If either of those two open up, you use them, and if not you try to take an open 3 as the clock winds down.

The players have to execute the plays and make their shots to score. Mike White's player's awards, his W/L record, and his 20+ win seasons speak to it's effectiveness. Trolls and/or haters, can continue to speak outta their butts if they want to... :cool:



PS

Besides his yearly class recruiting, Mike brought in Justin Leon, Canyon Barry, and 3-Gor to fill holes left in the roster. In years 3 & 4 combined, he's brought in 3 *****, 3 ****, and a 43% 3-Pt P-WO. Maybe,,, just maybe, he deserves some credit for what he's already done (SEC CoY - Elite-8), and what he's building up to do... o_O
 
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PacoGator19 said:
I’m still not a fan of the offensive system. White does have good in-bounds plays but the system/philosophy I’m not a huge fan of. I think that is somewhere he can improve on as a coach.
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You realize White wants to run and gun and has done that offensively in prior years, especially at La Tech, but has said that this season the team/bench isn't deep enough to run all game.

Due to injuries, transfers, short bench we've done this play hard on defense and then run sets/time on offense to get shots.

That may not be the offense next season when we will be deeper and more athletic.
 
NorthJerseyGator said:
You realize White wants to run and gun and has done that offensively in prior years, especially at La Tech, but has said that this season the team/bench isn't deep enough to run all game.

Due to injuries, transfers, short bench we've done this play hard on defense and then run sets/time on offense to get shots.

That may not be the offense next season when we will be deeper and more athletic.
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Remember the offense early last year when we beat Gonzaga and almost beat duke? Up tempo, throwing the ball around, three pointers coming from everywhere. I think he knows he doesn’t have the skills this year on the roster and is playing defense and running clock.
 
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The way this year's team plays defense is impressive and the coach has to get credit for that. Defense takes constant effort and communication and the gators have been excellent on that end of the court all year.
 
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bradleygator said:
Remember the offense early last year when we beat Gonzaga and almost beat duke? Up tempo, throwing the ball around, three pointers coming from everywhere. I think he knows he doesn’t have the skills this year on the roster and is playing defense and running clock.
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Yeah, especially when Hudson was ghosting the first 2/3 of the season.....brick, turnover, let guy by on D, repeat.
 
Hudson has had a tough season no doubt, but he's a great Gator and he's finally coming on when it counts the most. In fact the whole 'TEAM' is fighting for a post season bid, so good on them... :cool:
 
instaGATOR said:
Hudson has had a tough season no doubt, but he's a great Gator and he's finally coming on when it counts the most. In fact the whole 'TEAM' is fighting for a post season bid, so good on them... :cool:
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Yes, and for that all can be forgiven! Haha. Deliver when it counts and all is forgotten.
 
Joe Lunardi now has Florida as a #8 seed playing #9 Ohio State in the Salt Lake City regional, with the winner taking #1 Gonzaga. All guesswork at this point, but interesting.
 
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sadgator said:
Would jump on that draw like a bum on a ham sandwich...
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Like a Shameous Jameous on a stack of crab legs... ;)

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Will literally take ANY draw at this point, just get to the dance!
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While there are no sure things when it comes to recruit class rankings, verbal commits, or committee votes,,,,, o_O it's all but a sure thing that they will at least go dancing in 2019. ;)

PS

Gators on better (though hardly solid) NCAA at-large footing.

"Yeah, I'm not much of a big picture guy," White said. "I just want to get home to Gainesville and start thinking about playing well the first four minutes against Georgia."

As far as sound bytes go, not a great answer.

As far as what is best for his team, excellent answer — and necessary approach.

https://floridagators.com/news/2019...ck-dogs-represent-danger-zone-for-gators.aspx
 
Our offense has been terrible most of the season. We are not a lock to get in now if we lose the next 2 games.
 
The absolute worst loss of the year by far. To lose to this horrible team at home with what was on the long is unacceptable. I would think this will severely hurt whatever metrics (NET, RPI, ???) they use to determine NCAA bids. Unless we somehow beat LSU, I think it's the NIT for our Gators.
 
ocalaman said:
The absolute worst loss of the year by far. To lose to this horrible team at home with what was on the long is unacceptable. I would think this will severely hurt whatever metrics (NET, RPI, ???) they use to determine NCAA bids. Unless we somehow beat LSU, I think it's the NIT for our Gators.
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If we lose the next 3 we are likely out. If we lose to LSU and KY I am not sure if just one SEC tourney win would be enough.
 
White just doesn't adjust much it seems. Georgia was waiting on our 3 pt. shots most times like people are saying.
 
sadgator said:
At the end when they had to go half court, you just knew they couldn’t...major problem...
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Hmmm been a problem for 4 years now. Chiozza just masked those problems a bit.

White has no half court offense. He hasn’t had one for 4 years.
 
I know they shot 52%, but I think we played decent defense and beat them on the boards, outrebounding a much bigger team 30-21. They only scored 61 points. The problem, as usual, for us was on the offensive end. 5-21 from the 3 point line, 37.5% from the field, 12 turnovers (Allen & Johnson 3 each, Stokes 2). Allen was 1-10 for the night and had his worst game of the year, not only shooting but ball handling. Johnson had 2 quick layups at the start of the 2nd half and only had 2 more points the entire game. Just too much dribbling at the point with guys standing around. We didn't have very many open shots, as Georgia fought through screens and defended very well. We played poorly overall and they deserved to win. Bad for us.
 
A computer simulation bracketology place has dropped us from like an 80% chance for a bid to a 53% chance now and that is with us just over 50/50 to win one of these last 2 games in the simulation.

If we lose the next 2 games the best chance we will have in the #8/#9 or #7/#10 SECT matchup is that it becomes an elimination game possibly since the bubble looks to be pretty soft.
 
UGly's last 4 losses have come by a combined total of 9 FREAKIN' points... o_O
They are better than their W/L record, just like UF is. :cool:

Five SEC teams are now tied for #4 (9-7) in the SEC with UA one game back at (8-8). :eek:

The Gators are now 5-1 over the last 6 games. When it was 5-0 the trolls disappeared, (typical). But just as soon as they lose a game, out come the lip-flappin' trolls again... :rolleyes:
IF this,,, IF that,,, ohhh bite me... :cool:
 
instaGATOR said:
UGly's last 4 losses have come by a combined total of 9 FREAKIN' points... o_O
They are better than their W/L record, just like UF is. :cool:

Five SEC teams are now tied for #4 (9-7) in the SEC with UA one game back at (8-8). :eek:

The Gators are now 5-1 over the last 6 games. When it was 5-0 the trolls disappeared, (typical). But just as soon as they lose a game, out come the lip-flappin' trolls again... :rolleyes:
IF this,,, IF that,,, ohhh bite me... :cool:
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I didn't watch the press conference. Did White go on and on about how he can't make the shots for the players?
 
Don't take my word for anything....:rolleyes:

White doesn't spew bs in his post game interviews, he just tells it like it is. And apparently, he's not he only one. "I don't think we came with the same edge we had the past five games," fifth-year seniorJalen Hudson said in hush tones late Saturday night. "That's definitely out of character for us," UF senior center Kevarrius Hayes said. "Especially with how we'd played the last five games. We had fight. We had fire. It kind of died down a little bit."

So, was it Mike White's fault for not getting his team ready to play? -- UF coach Mike White and his staff hammered home the last few days how Georgia, despite its record, had lost its last four games — all against likely NCAA Tournament teams (LSU, Mississippi State, Ole Miss and Auburn) — by a combined nine points, with each game coming down to the final possession. o_O

Sometimes, it's the other team that has someone break out and light it up... Sophomore forward Nicolas Claxton scored a career-high 25 points by hitting nine of his 12 field-goal attempts, both 3-point tries and all five of his free throws, plus added a trio of blocked shots and a couple steals over 35 minutes. The Bulldogs (11-18, 2-14), ranked in the bottom third of the SEC in scoring offense (67.9 points per game) and field-goal percentage (.417), shot 56 percent for the game — their best in league play this season — and went 5-for-5 from the floor over the last five minutes when the Gators (17-12, 9-7) desperately needed a defensive stop.

Florida, meanwhile, shot a woeful 37.5 percent for the game, including 5 of 21 from the 3-point line (23.8 percent), against a team that came in ranked last in the league in scoring and defensive field-goal percentage. Hudson, with 13 points, was the lone Gator to reach double figures, and he was just 4-for-13 (30.8%) on the night. :cool:

"I thought Georgia was more deserving … and what a shame," White said. "It's human nature. How do you handle success?"

Answer (as far as this game goes): Poorly. :(

For the entire write up you can go here...
https://floridagators.com/news/2019...orida-falls-flat-in-home-loss-to-georgia.aspx

PS

White's just a terrible coach, going 4-4 vs SEC in the O'Dome.
However, BillyD went 3-5 vs SEC in the O'Dome, so maybe it's not as bad as I thought... :cool:
 
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instaGATOR said:
Don't take my word for anything....:rolleyes:

White doesn't spew bs in his post game interviews, he just tells it like it is. And apparently, he's not he only one. "I don't think we came with the same edge we had the past five games," fifth-year seniorJalen Hudson said in hush tones late Saturday night. "That's definitely out of character for us," UF senior center Kevarrius Hayes said. "Especially with how we'd played the last five games. We had fight. We had fire. It kind of died down a little bit."

So, was it Mike White's fault for not getting his team ready to play? -- UF coach Mike White and his staff hammered home the last few days how Georgia, despite its record, had lost its last four games — all against likely NCAA Tournament teams (LSU, Mississippi State, Ole Miss and Auburn) — by a combined nine points, with each game coming down to the final possession. o_O

Sometimes, it's the other team that has someone break out and light it up... Sophomore forward Nicolas Claxton scored a career-high 25 points by hitting nine of his 12 field-goal attempts, both 3-point tries and all five of his free throws, plus added a trio of blocked shots and a couple steals over 35 minutes. The Bulldogs (11-18, 2-14), ranked in the bottom third of the SEC in scoring offense (67.9 points per game) and field-goal percentage (.417), shot 56 percent for the game — their best in league play this season — and went 5-for-5 from the floor over the last five minutes when the Gators (17-12, 9-7) desperately needed a defensive stop.

Florida, meanwhile, shot a woeful 37.5 percent for the game, including 5 of 21 from the 3-point line (23.8 percent), against a team that came in ranked last in the league in scoring and defensive field-goal percentage. Hudson, with 13 points, was the lone Gator to reach double figures, and he was just 4-for-13 (30.8%) on the night. :cool:

"I thought Georgia was more deserving … and what a shame," White said. "It's human nature. How do you handle success?"

Answer (as far as this game goes): Poorly. :(

For the entire write up you can go here...
https://floridagators.com/news/2019...orida-falls-flat-in-home-loss-to-georgia.aspx
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So White drilled it into their heads that Georgia was barely losing their games - I guess the players took that to mean they were alright as long as it was close at the end and they could pull the point or two win as the clock was winding down.

White needs to explain how this team is only 4-4 in SEC home games.
 
Gator Fever said:
So White drilled it into their heads that Georgia was barely losing their games - I guess the players took that to mean they were alright as long as it was close at the end and they could pull the point or two win as the clock was winding down.

White needs to explain how this team is only 4-4 in SEC home games.
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While BillyD went 3-5 vs SEC in the O'Dome?

One thing can be counted on from a fevered brain, he'll talk outta his azz :confused: more than anyone else on this board, sport after sport, season after season... :cool:

You don't have the faintest clue about what White and he staff talk about with their team. o_O
 
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instaGATOR said:
While BillyD went 3-5 vs SEC in the O'Dome?

One thing can be counted on from a fevered brain, he'll talk outta his azz :confused: more than anyone else on this board, sport after sport, season after season... :cool:

You don't have the faintest clue about what White and he staff talk about with their team. o_O
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This team with the talent it has shouldn't be .500 at home in SEC play.
 
Gator Fever said:
This team with the talent it has shouldn't be .500 at home in SEC play.
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What talent do you think they have? None of these guys will sniff the NBA. I'd be surprised if anyone on this roster ever made first team all-SEC. Johnson, Locke and Nembhard are nice, young players, but honestly UGA looked like it had better players to me. That's on White from a recruiting standpoint, but I don't get why people keep talking about the talent on this team.
 
bradleygator said:
What talent do you think they have? None of these guys will sniff the NBA. I'd be surprised if anyone on this roster ever made first team all-SEC. Johnson, Locke and Nembhard are nice, young players, but honestly UGA looked like it had better players to me. That's on White from a recruiting standpoint, but I don't get why people keep talking about the talent on this team.
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I would agree that the talent isn’t that good but to your point since it is Mike White’s 4th year I would say that the talent on this team is all on him. The fact that we still don’t have a serviceable big man after 4 years is on him as well. if you look at some of the players that White recruited there is some real head scratchers for sure. Not counting the guys that have transferred do to not being able to see the court you have to wonder how guys like Okaru, Ballard, Bassett & Gak, etc ever received a scholarship from UF. These guys are not Power 5 level caliber players.

I would also add that I think our half court offense stinks and the offensive philosophy/system is not good IMO. White needs to hopefully recognize this soon and bring in a coach that knows how to run an offense much like Donovan did when he brought in Shyatt for defensive purposes.
 
bradleygator said:
What talent do you think they have? None of these guys will sniff the NBA. I'd be surprised if anyone on this roster ever made first team all-SEC. Johnson, Locke and Nembhard are nice, young players, but honestly UGA looked like it had better players to me. That's on White from a recruiting standpoint, but I don't get why people keep talking about the talent on this team.
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Our talent is decent and definitely tournament material. There is no excuse for our horrible shooting this season with the players we have. White needs to coach the offense up more - lack of basic adjustments in many games this season.
 
Gator Fever said:
Our talent is decent and definitely tournament material. There is no excuse for our horrible shooting this season with the players we have. White needs to coach the offense up more - lack of basic adjustments in many games this season.
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Decent I would agree with. Definitely tournament material? That’s starting to stretch. Again, do you think any of these guys will play in the NBA? Anyone going to be all SEC this year or in the future? Maybe Locke and Johnson could develop into all league players but they’re not there yet. The horrible shooting is because we have horrible shooters. Locke and Allen are the only somewhat reliable jumpshooters.
 
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