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Until we do something, elections are totally meaningless. See the Georgia Senate runoffs. See the Newsom recall vote.

And if we don't do anything, then we deserve to lose our ability to have any say in who runs this country.
The main issue is at the Border and has been since 1980. This driven largely due to population shift. And another migrant caravan is coming....
 
You’re doing it again. You said they cheated with specific points, and then it was within the rules but meant to skew the odds in their favor, now you’re back to cheating.

Cheating is illegal. It’s outside the bounds of the rules. That’s the definition. You didn’t meet that standard

Please watch the Veritas video. Dems are catering to minority communities and bussing people from precinct to precinct and taking advantage of no ID voting to cheat. That’s extreme, but it’s proof if you try you can manipulate people. It’s the same concept as ballot harvesting but it uses people.

Please provide proof R’s created mail in balloting. It’s been in place since the 1800’s. If you had imminent fear of Indian attack you could vote by mail then. It’s not a modern invention.

I don’t care what Trump said, but FL is not a blanket vote by mail state. Vote by mail states use shittily maintained voter rolls and flood the zone with a ballot for everyone without request. Florida allows absentee ballots by request, that’s much, much different.

Keep serving them up. This is batting practice with a person with a brain.
I can't believe I have to explain this but maybe I shouldn't be. I am saying that the Republicans made changes that will help purge some democratic voters and I explain how. Those changes were cheating and creating an advantage. Remember your original comment had cheating in quotes, indicating that one could assume it was meant to cheat not actual cheating. So yes I answered correctly, you just forget your original comment.

So you're saying POC vote illegally? Or that Bussing help to many POC get to voting sites?

Ballot harvesting (republican term) and Bussing are not the same. I can see how one can change a ballot when nobody is looking but Bussing requires that individual to vote privately with ID in states like Georgia, FL, Texas. I truly see how that's cheating. It's clear that you have low expectations in POC. You think they are weak minded and will easy be swayed by a bus ride. My mom got on a bus from her church in sw Philly in 2016 and she voted for Donald Trump. Sorry that she didn't satisfy your opinions on POC.

Request or not. It's still mail in ballots. Keep up with the excuses. The Republican party is perfect and never did anything wrong.
 
You’re doing it again. You said they cheated with specific points, and then it was within the rules but meant to skew the odds in their favor, now you’re back to cheating.

Cheating is illegal. It’s outside the bounds of the rules. That’s the definition. You didn’t meet that standard

Please watch the Veritas video. Dems are catering to minority communities and bussing people from precinct to precinct and taking advantage of no ID voting to cheat. That’s extreme, but it’s proof if you try you can manipulate people. It’s the same concept as ballot harvesting but it uses people.

Please provide proof R’s created mail in balloting. It’s been in place since the 1800’s. If you had imminent fear of Indian attack you could vote by mail then. It’s not a modern invention.

I don’t care what Trump said, but FL is not a blanket vote by mail state. Vote by mail states use shittily maintained voter rolls and flood the zone with a ballot for everyone without request. Florida allows absentee ballots by request, that’s much, much different.

Keep serving them up. This is batting practice with a person with a brain.
We need to tighten borders, tighten borders, tighten borders and then also ensure and enforce clear voting rules.

I happen to agree to Kalim (and McConnell and many other Rs) that there was not widespread election fraud, but the rules changed overnight and the appearance of impropriety was very significant.

We have also just unilaterially released hundreds of thousands of illegals into the country "hoping" that they will come in for processing. Then have mail-in, no process for managing registers and intellectuals pushing against voter-ID (not you, Kalim), and individuals are fed up.

Pair it all together with Fauci's lies (this is Ryan Grim, not me), Louden lies, etc. and it is not hard to see why there is massive distrust in this country.
 
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I know two people - one in Prince William County and one in Loudoun - who had to file an affidavit to vote...they were told they had already requested and been sent absentee ballots. The affidavit was them "swearing" that they had lost their ballot, which wasn't true.

Fairfax Co, at the last second, has removed social security (last 4) requirements for mail in ballots. There will be no way to tell the correct person cast that ballot during the counting or after.

The deep blue population centers will find the votes they need.
Fairfax County Council did this, after the early voting / mail in ballots has started. No talk of it when polls were showing McAwful up by 5 to 10 %, but once voting started,
changed what?

All I’m saying is I don’t trust the NoVA suburbs. I think they will find a way to get enough votes to win. They already changed the rules to make it easier, and I personally know two people who had someone else request their absentee ballots.

If they don’t then I guess they didn’t find enough votes.

So what are we discussing again?
McAwful just hired Marc Elias. The NOVA steal is starting.
Elias was the mastermind behind the whole Russian Collusion scam and promient in Dems changing election laws last mintue.
 
I can't believe I have to explain this but maybe I shouldn't be. I am saying that the Republicans made changes that will help purge some democratic voters and I explain how. Those changes were cheating and creating an advantage. Remember your original comment had cheating in quotes, indicating that one could assume it was meant to cheat not actual cheating. So yes I answered correctly, you just forget your original comment.

So you're saying POC vote illegally? Or that Bussing help to many POC get to voting sites?

Ballot harvesting (republican term) and Bussing are not the same. I can see how one can change a ballot when nobody is looking but Bussing requires that individual to vote privately with ID in states like Georgia, FL, Texas. I truly see how that's cheating. It's clear that you have low expectations in POC. You think they are weak minded and will easy be swayed by a bus ride. My mom got on a bus from her church in sw Philly in 2016 and she voted for Donald Trump. Sorry that she didn't satisfy your opinions on POC.

Request or not. It's still mail in ballots. Keep up with the excuses. The Republican party is perfect and never did anything wrong.
The changes were ALL done within the confines of the rules and therefore are not cheating. This is now your 3rd flip flop if we're counting.

Taking constitutional power away from SL's and changing election rules weeks before an election is cheating. Ignoring laws on the books and kicking one party out of the counting rooms is cheating. What we saw happen with mail in voting in Maricopa is cheating. The charges the Sheriff brought yesterday in the nursing home scandal in Racine, WI is cheating.

And please just stop with the race baiting. I'm on record as having a ton more faith in POC than you do.

Absentee is much safer - not perfect - but much safer because the ballot has to be requested. It's much more difficult to cheat enough votes with absentee than a mail in state where every voter gets sent a ballot, dead voters aren't purged, they register everyone when they get a license, they don't remove people who have moved, etc.

You know how I can tell I've won a debate with a liberal? They take the fallback of calling you a racist. You've been "Jim Crow 2.0" this entire thread. It's a tired schtick and it says a ton about the strength of your arguments.
 
The main issue is at the Border and has been since 1980. This driven largely due to population shift. And another migrant caravan is coming....
The population shift is due to the open borders that dems push in Texas, NM, AZ and CA.

Dems see illegals as fresh voters. Until that changes, we will continue to have a border crisis, and we will continue to have more drugs running into this country, more human trafficking, and more sexual abuse of children.

IOW, things will get better for this country when the dems learn to put what's best for others above what's best for keeping them in power. God help us.
 
Fairfax County Council did this, after the early voting / mail in ballots has started. No talk of it when polls were showing McAwful up by 5 to 10 %, but once voting started,

McAwful just hired Marc Elias. The NOVA steal is starting.
Elias was the mastermind behind the whole Russian Collusion scam and promient in Dems changing election laws last mintue.
The steal is already done. They are just putting elias there to 'reward' him with huge 'legal' and 'consulting' fees.
 
@kalimgoodman

the RATS 🐀 are going to get woodshedded in 2022 and 2024

Poll: Republican Glenn Youngkin Ahead of Democrat Terry McAuliffe by 8 Points in Virginia Governor’s Race​




Don't be fooled. The Dems are loading up the trucks with ballots for the midnight drop next Tuesday night/Wednesday morning. The tell will be what happens in the State Legislature. If it turns red, but yet McAful wins the Governorship ...
 
And please just stop with the race baiting. I'm on record as having a ton more faith in POC than you do.
He's trying to get out of this exchange because you are forcing him to intelligently debate his position, and he doesn't know it well enough to do so. Same thing I did with blacks voting for Hiden in inner cities. He spewed out claims, I fact-checked him and found he was completely wrong, he got mad and said I was going on Ignore.

You are about 2 more exchanges from being put on fake Ignore too.

Here's how @kalimgoodman 'debates' anything.

1 - He introduces dem talking points. The talking points are often a complete distraction from the topic at hand.

2 - You then try to intelligently debate the talking points.

3 - Uh-oh.... @kalimgoodman wasn't prepared for this. So he repeats the talking points, and adds mention of you and your party being racist or sexist or some slur, hoping you will become distracted and focus on the personal attack. He can troll but he can't think.

4 - If you take the bait, fine, he's happy. The other alternative is to hold his feet to the fire and stick to debunking his talking points.

5 - He will then make 1-2 more attempts to get you off the talking points, and on personal attacks. If you continue to refuse the bait, he will eventually say he can't talk to you anymore. If this becomes a pattern, he will claim he's put you on Ignore.
 
We need to tighten borders, tighten borders, tighten borders and then also ensure and enforce clear voting rules.

I happen to agree to Kalim (and McConnell and many other Rs) that there was not widespread election fraud, but the rules changed overnight and the appearance of impropriety was very significant.

We have also just unilaterially released hundreds of thousands of illegals into the country "hoping" that they will come in for processing. Then have mail-in, no process for managing registers and intellectuals pushing against voter-ID (not you, Kalim), and individuals are fed up.

Pair it all together with Fauci's lies (this is Ryan Grim, not me), Louden lies, etc. and it is not hard to see why there is massive distrust in this country.
For the most part, you get it. I'm not saying that the Democrats don't do things to try to help themselves win elections but for anyone to suggest that the Republicans didn't just do the same is laughable. It's a game to both of them.
 
The changes were ALL done within the confines of the rules and therefore are not cheating. This is now your 3rd flip flop if we're counting.

Taking constitutional power away from SL's and changing election rules weeks before an election is cheating. Ignoring laws on the books and kicking one party out of the counting rooms is cheating. What we saw happen with mail in voting in Maricopa is cheating. The charges the Sheriff brought yesterday in the nursing home scandal in Racine, WI is cheating.

And please just stop with the race baiting. I'm on record as having a ton more faith in POC than you do.

Absentee is much safer - not perfect - but much safer because the ballot has to be requested. It's much more difficult to cheat enough votes with absentee than a mail in state where every voter gets sent a ballot, dead voters aren't purged, they register everyone when they get a license, they don't remove people who have moved, etc.

You know how I can tell I've won a debate with a liberal? They take the fallback of calling you a racist. You've been "Jim Crow 2.0" this entire thread. It's a tired schtick and it says a ton about the strength of your arguments.
Lol. Please stop looking for ways to win a debate. I didn't flip flop. I have said it's cheating and haven't changed my stance on that. You're just trying to tell me what's cheating and what's not because you're the president on what's cheating. You put up quotes for cheating.

So when the democrats Change election rules it's cheating but when the Republicans do it, it's not? Everything with you is the Republicans can do but democrats can't. 🙄

You never answered my questions about POC. You just say I'm race baiting because you can't answer. Saying POC will vote for someone because they got a bus ride is disgusting and disrespectful.

How do you think better of POC then me? Because you said so? Here are some recent comparable facts.

Fatman76: POC can get IDs but they can't think for themselves if they get a bus ride to a voting site.

Kalim: POC can get IDs and they can think for themselves if they get a bus ride to a voting site.

You are a typical partisan Republican. You say that democrats think lowly of POC because they think it's racist to ask them to get an ID (I agree with you on this) but it's not thinking lowly of POC when Republicans think POC is incapable of thinking for themselves if they get a bus ride. 🤔. Listen to yourself.

They both think lowly of POC in different ways. Why can't you see that?
 
I can't believe I have to explain this but maybe I shouldn't be. I am saying that the Republicans made changes that will help purge some democratic voters and I explain how. Those changes were cheating and creating an advantage. Remember your original comment had cheating in quotes, indicating that one could assume it was meant to cheat not actual cheating. So yes I answered correctly, you just forget your original comment.

So you're saying POC vote illegally? Or that Bussing help to many POC get to voting sites?

Ballot harvesting (republican term) and Bussing are not the same. I can see how one can change a ballot when nobody is looking but Bussing requires that individual to vote privately with ID in states like Georgia, FL, Texas. I truly see how that's cheating. It's clear that you have low expectations in POC. You think they are weak minded and will easy be swayed by a bus ride. My mom got on a bus from her church in sw Philly in 2016 and she voted for Donald Trump. Sorry that she didn't satisfy your opinions on POC.

Request or not. It's still mail in ballots. Keep up with the excuses. The Republican party is perfect and never did anything wrong.
YES!!!! Dead people, people who have moved, and felons, oh the horrors! :rolleyes:
 
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McAuliffe deserves to lose.

Taking a hardline, “government knows best,” stance on the school curricula dispute was classic tone-deaf elitism. Then, he doubles down by trying to make it a race issue.

An incumbent democrat who can’t easily win in a blue state that’s steadily getting bluer is a loser.
 
Northern Virginia is filled with stereotypical “coastal elite” liberals who think just like McAuliffe. They probably can’t understand why the plebs in the rest of the state aren’t happy with him.

If he loses, it might end up being a good wake-up call for the democratic elite: they need to learn how to deal with voters outside of major metropolitan areas without insulting them.
 
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Lol. Please stop looking for ways to win a debate. I didn't flip flop. I have said it's cheating and haven't changed my stance on that. You're just trying to tell me what's cheating and what's not because you're the president on what's cheating. You put up quotes for cheating.

So when the democrats Change election rules it's cheating but when the Republicans do it, it's not? Everything with you is the Republicans can do but democrats can't. 🙄

You never answered my questions about POC. You just say I'm race baiting because you can't answer. Saying POC will vote for someone because they got a bus ride is disgusting and disrespectful.

How do you think better of POC then me? Because you said so? Here are some recent comparable facts.

Fatman76: POC can get IDs but they can't think for themselves if they get a bus ride to a voting site.

Kalim: POC can get IDs and they can think for themselves if they get a bus ride to a voting site.

You are a typical partisan Republican. You say that democrats think lowly of POC because they think it's racist to ask them to get an ID (I agree with you on this) but it's not thinking lowly of POC when Republicans think POC is incapable of thinking for themselves if they get a bus ride. 🤔. Listen to yourself.

They both think lowly of POC in different ways. Why can't you see that?
Clownshow response...

Post 72 you said this:
"It's not about what I support or even what you support. It's about the Republican party making a change to benefit their party."

So you're essentially saying that a party making changes that gives them an advantage, even if it's allowed under the rule of law, it's cheating. That's like saying a football team "cheated" by running a reverse.

I've explained too many times ITT - Democrats violated both state laws and the Constitution with the way they executed the changes in 2020. Violation of binding rules is cheating. To continue the football analogy, running a play with 12 players is cheating.

And the whole bus thing, you're drowning brother. You're making things up that were never said by either of us.
 
McAuliffe deserves to lose.

Taking a hardline, “government knows best,” stance on the school curricula dispute was classic tone-deaf elitism. Then, he doubles down by trying to make it a race issue.

An incumbent democrat who can’t easily win in a blue state that’s steadily getting bluer is a loser.
He's rec'd millions from Teacher's Unions and he thinks that's the position they want him to take.
 
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Northern Virginia is filled with stereotypical “coastal elite” liberals who think just like McAuliffe. They probably can’t understand why the plebs in the rest of the state aren’t happy with him.

If he loses, it might end up being a good wake-up call for the democratic elite: they need to learn how to deal with voters outside of major metropolitan areas without insulting them.
The suburbs of NoVA are also filled with Federal employees. Many feel it's in their best interest to vote blue at any cost because it grows gov't which means enhance employment opportunities for them.
 
Clownshow response...

Post 72 you said this:
"It's not about what I support or even what you support. It's about the Republican party making a change to benefit their party."

So you're essentially saying that a party making changes that gives them an advantage, even if it's allowed under the rule of law, it's cheating. That's like saying a football team "cheated" by running a reverse.

I've explained too many times ITT - Democrats violated both state laws and the Constitution with the way they executed the changes in 2020. Violation of binding rules is cheating. To continue the football analogy, running a play with 12 players is cheating.

And the whole bus thing, you're drowning brother. You're making things up that were never said by either of us.
Kalim is obviously of the opinion that preventing voter fraud is cheating. It's like CFB, let's get rid of all of the referees. 😂
 
He's rec'd millions from Teacher's Unions and he thinks that's the position they want him to take.
It is the position they want him to take. McAwful's former law firm represents the schools, school administration and school boards in lawsuits dealing with abuse cases, including one that involves an alleged gang rape that happened at a middle school.
 
Clownshow response...

Post 72 you said this:
"It's not about what I support or even what you support. It's about the Republican party making a change to benefit their party."

So you're essentially saying that a party making changes that gives them an advantage, even if it's allowed under the rule of law, it's cheating. That's like saying a football team "cheated" by running a reverse.

I've explained too many times ITT - Democrats violated both state laws and the Constitution with the way they executed the changes in 2020. Violation of binding rules is cheating. To continue the football analogy, running a play with 12 players is cheating.

And the whole bus thing, you're drowning brother. You're making things up that were never said by either of us.
No the democrats made changes to laws that you don't like and in PA the republican party agreed with the democrats on those changes because they control the state legislation.

It's only drowning because you got caught and can't explain yourself without sounding silly.

Your own words...

4) I am 100% for banning bussing of people to polls. That's not just ballot harvesting, that's VOTER harvesting. Rounding up everyone you can find and giving them food and a ride in exchange for a vote isn't democracy

So I exactly said something that you said. You are saying POC vote for democrats in exchange for rides and food. That is the Republicans thinking and that's why they are trying to stop it. You think POC are that weak? That easy? Pretty sad on how you view POC but it's your freedom.
 
They both think lowly of POC in different ways. Why can't you see that?
We don't judge people based on their skin color. That's what dems do.

Decent people judge people on their actions. Nothing more, nothing less.

Only racists judge people based on their skin color. You are admitting your party does this, so why do you support your party's racism?
 
They vote all the time in South Florida. I remember one local election, for the Miami Mayor were the total number of votes was something like 2% more then the registered voters. It's been proven over and over again. Now, as to the total numbers across the US, who nows.
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Clownshow response...

Post 72 you said this:
"It's not about what I support or even what you support. It's about the Republican party making a change to benefit their party."

So you're essentially saying that a party making changes that gives them an advantage, even if it's allowed under the rule of law, it's cheating. That's like saying a football team "cheated" by running a reverse.

I've explained too many times ITT - Democrats violated both state laws and the Constitution with the way they executed the changes in 2020. Violation of binding rules is cheating. To continue the football analogy, running a play with 12 players is cheating.

And the whole bus thing, you're drowning brother. You're making things up that were never said by either of us.

Dems change the laws to more easily facilitate cheating. Repubs fight to change those laws back to make the elections more fair.

@kalimgoodman spins this is an example of both sides trying to win the election.

No, it's an example of his side trying to cheat, and our side trying to stop it.
 
Opps, McAwful didn't want YOU to know.
 
Opps, McAwful didn't want YOU to know.
Saw that earlier this morning. We live in bizarro world.
 
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Don't be fooled. The Dems are loading up the trucks with ballots for the midnight drop next Tuesday night/Wednesday morning. The tell will be what happens in the State Legislature. If it turns red, but yet McAful wins the Governorship ...
I too am worried about fair elections in the future. This is because the "alphabet" media will provide cover and propaganda for the fraud and the justice department will only prosecute Republicans while aiding and abetting Demonrats.
 
The population shift is due to the open borders that dems push in Texas, NM, AZ and CA.

Dems see illegals as fresh voters. Until that changes, we will continue to have a border crisis, and we will continue to have more drugs running into this country, more human trafficking, and more sexual abuse of children.

IOW, things will get better for this country when the dems learn to put what's best for others above what's best for keeping them in power. God help us.
...and also people who will need more public services, medicare/medicaid, schooling, etc.

the difference when my parents came over was that there was only a minor safety net system and one, SS, that you paid into.

now, the expectation is fundamentally different.
 
now, the expectation is fundamentally different.
Name ONE .Gov giveaway entitlement that has ever "gone away" once enacted. I can't think of one single one. Once these trojan horses unload their viruses inside our gates, they are here to stay. And Medicare and Social Security are horrible examples because "most" of us paid into the system for years on end. The return on investment from that is simply horrible anyway.
 
Name ONE .Gov giveaway entitlement that has ever "gone away" once enacted. I can't think of one single one. Once these trojan horses unload their viruses inside our gates, they are here to stay. And Medicare and Social Security are horrible examples because "most" of us paid into the system for years on end. The return on investment from that is simply horrible anyway.
McConnell said that. "Once you give it, it's difficult to take away."
 
Libtards continue their desperation.

So white supremacists are now accepting black people?
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Curiously, one of the ‘white supremacists’ posing in front of the Youngkin bus was a Black man.






Now the libtard has gone private on Twitter

 
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