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1000%...they are bigger, stronger and deeper militarily. Is it worth starting WWIII? Not to me. And most SANE people feel the same..however these little lib soy boys just have to have something to hate. They give ZERO chits about Ukraine. They hate America..and Trump. And I do not care for them, since I AM a REAL American.
Are you REALLY this slow? VERY serious question. I hope you are just really young and dumb....or too bad for you...it will not get better.
It's the same thing with every Trump deal. He says he will do something, haters say no way he's an idiot. Then he does it, and haters move the goalposts and say he messed up.
We just saw it with the tariffs deal, we just saw it with the REM deal. It is what it is.
Well he says he’ll get a deal. I think it’s an open question as to the benefits of those deals.
What are the great Trump deals he’s negotiated again? The lobsters and what else?
Anyway, we’ll see how all this shakes out. Will we see in the next year: Ukraine ceasefire; Gaza ceasefire; Red Sea open to shipping; US manufacturing jobs returning; less government debt.
Real progress on a few of these would be very impressive.
Just heard on the news, Bessent says China has reached out to the US and wants to negotiate on trade while the US is in Switzerland.
Guess China doesn't have the leverage you thought they did.
I think everybody needs to show a lot more patience with this process. But it’s hard when the mainstream media spends 98% of its coverage every day badmouthing everything Trump does. They would rather work with our enemies and adversaries, drug cartels, terrorist, world leaders from every other country in the world and work with the president of the United States, or at least report fairly on him.
It’s a pretty sad state that somewhere around 70 to 75,000,000 Americans hate this country more than they love it.
It’s a pretty sad state that somewhere around 70 to 75,000,000 Americans hate this country more than they love it.
You really understand very little of what you post, and once again you don’t understand a deal you’re calling terrible is just one more data point proving your TDS.
Is it the best deal ever? No, but if you know anything about business you know deals that aren’t mutually beneficial don’t last.
But the deal is smart. It starts a fund to rebuild Ukraine. The fund is supported by new investment in Ukrainian energy and precious raw material exploitation. 50% of revenues from that industry go into the fund, and any US military investment in their defense from Russia is counted as a US investment in the fund. This is what Bessemer is talking about in the clip above. There’s now an ROI on Ukrainian assistance.
In return, as Trump designated the DFC as the US representative, and the US gets documented rights to purchase Ukrainian resources at market price.
The Ukrainian’s success in building a precious resource infrastructure relies on peace, a rebuilding of their energy infrastructure, and private investment in the industry with more modern geological surveys. So they are now motivated to end the war.
On the other side, US interests will be in Ukraine which should stop any further advancement, which strongly deters Putin from taking any more territory…which disincentivizes the continuation of the war.
So Trump has made the conflict fruitless for both sides, set up a long term agreement to buy precious resources, and found a way to make military or security support an investment into a major issue facing the long term security of the country (instead of throwing money into a bottomless pit and supporting the ongoing slaughter of young men). And it helps a smaller country that was invaded by a superpower rebuild.
As you say we will see how it works, but his ability to triangulate multiple issues makes the Biden administration look totally feckless.
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This is the only thing you posted that I disagree with. I hope you are right but I am skeptical.
IMO only a Korean style DMZ will deter Vlad. Seriously I hope you are right, that it works and I will gladly eat the crow.
Russia is out of money and troops.
The last thing Putin wants is actual US military involvement. We’d crush Russia at the moment - hell they couldn’t even take most of Ukraine at full strength. And that’s the benefit of having a president that everyone thinks is a little crazy. It’s a massive deterrent.
Another reason I think it's ridiculous to worry that he's about to 'march across Europe'. He's been in power for a quarter century. Unless he's playing the mother of all long games, I think Europe is safe from the red menace.
Ukraine is literally kidnapping men to the front lines and he can’t advance.
The only reason to respect Russian military power are nuclear weapons.
It’s pretty well agreed that Russia and Ukraine are at this point conducting a pretty skillful war. Ukraine just don’t have the manpower, but they’ve been very well armed. Both sides have a huge head start in the use of drones in the battlefield.
I don’t know where it comes from that Russia is running on fumes. Their GDP is up from start of fighting, and the Ruple is one of the best performing currencies in that time.
Whatever his troop situation is it’s not as bleak as Ukraine’s. Russia continues to make gains as far as land and resources, and he already has the most marketable land essentially conceded to him.
Plus the war has the advantage of continuing to bleed the west of munitions and is just generally driving everyone in the west crazy.
So seems to me the war has worked out pretty well for Putin. I don’t see why he’d be in a rush to shut it down. But maybe Trump can make it worth his while. We’ll see. I legit think that Trump thinks Putin will do him a solid but I don’t think Putin GAF.
I already posted that, but you may not be smart enough to read it. Want me to phonetically sound them out for you, son? Let me educate you some so that you do not look like a dunce. 1. ABRAHAM ACCORDS...now you can show me ANY Presdient in American history thaT HAS HAD A DEAL LIKE THIS...any.
This has to be a troll. Bless your uninformed heart if you actually believe this is reality.
“There are many efforts underway—humanitarian aid initiatives for Gaza, which we applaud, the expansion of the Abraham Peace Accords, which we think will have some or a lot of announcements very, very shortly, which we hope will yield great progress by next year“
Sounds mind blowing.
It comes from doing the absolute bare minimum amount of research. You really need to learn how to Google basic phrases. You have to be one of the least informed posters in this forum, and we have guys like Kalim running around. It's honestly embarrassing.
Russia’s Year of Truth: The Soldier Shortage
Despite Russian misinformation, there is a crisis in Vladimir Putin’s military with a lack of troop recruitment and mounting casualties.
Russia’s War Economy Is Hitting Its Limits
Key weapons are running out as Moscow tries to mobilize ever more labor and resources.
foreignpolicy.com
Two Russian Government Ministers Say Putin’s Russia Running Out of Soviet Resource Reserves
Executive Summary: Russian President Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine has rapidly turned into a war of attrition. Along with Moscow’s difficulties raising an army and adequately equipping it, Russia is running out of the resource reserves left over from Soviet times. Senior Russian officials...
Russia could run out of tanks by 2026: Report
The International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS) has said that current Russian tank losses in Ukraine are unsustainable.
www.newsweek.com
Russia won’t be able to afford troops in Ukraine past 2026 as economy struggles, experts say
With about 30,000 to 45,000 Russian troops killed or injured in Ukraine each month, Moscow can likely only afford another 12 to 16 months of fighting at its current pace, an expert told The Post.
nypost.com
Disarmed forces: Putin has “ground down” nearly all Soviet military stockpiles, reducing the intensity of the war in Ukraine
Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine has led to the bloodiest conflict in Europe since World War II. It has also resulted in the largest depletion of military equipment in 80 years. Vast stockpiles of primarily Soviet-era weaponry, originally designed at the height of the Cold War for use in...
theins.ru
Russia is running out of weapons and workers
The country’s depleting supplies means it may need to rein in its offensive against Ukraine.
www.semafor.com
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Yes, analysts suggest Russia is facing increasing resource constraints in its war effort, particularly concerning military hardware and manpower. While Russia can draw upon its large stockpiles of Soviet-era equipment, these reserves are dwindling, and current production rates are struggling to keep pace with battlefield losses. Some projections indicate that Russia may exhaust its Soviet-era equipment stockpiles by the end of 2025 or 2026.
Here's a more detailed look at the situation:
1. Military Hardware Shortages:
- Slow Production:
Russia's defense industrial base is struggling to produce new armored vehicles and artillery systems quickly enough to offset losses.
- Dwindling Stockpiles:
While Russia has a vast stockpile of Soviet-era equipment, it is being depleted at a rapid rate, with projections suggesting it could run out of cannon barrels by 2025.
- Losses Outpace Production:
Russia is losing vehicles and artillery systems faster than it can produce them, leading to a shortage of critical equipment.
- Examples:
Open-source researchers have documented the loss of thousands of infantry fighting vehicles, and the production of new vehicles cannot keep pace with these losses.
- Soldier Shortages:
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The war in Ukraine has resulted in significant casualties and disablements, contributing to a looming shortage of soldiers. - Recruitment Challenges:
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Despite mobilization efforts, Russia is facing difficulties in recruiting enough soldiers to fill the gaps caused by casualties.
- Increased Spending:
The war effort has significantly increased Russia's defense spending, putting pressure on its economy. - Sanctions:
Sanctions have made it more difficult for Russia to import necessary components for defense production. - Rising Costs:
The cost of producing weapons has increased, further straining Russia's economic resources.
- Reduced Military Effectiveness:
Shortages of equipment and manpower could lead to a reduction in the Russian military's ability to conduct operations.
- Increased Pressure for a Peace Deal:
The resource constraints could increase pressure on Russia to seek a peace deal.
- Long-Term Strain:
The war effort is putting a significant strain on Russia's economy and military capabilities, which could have long-term consequences.
We really really need a clown reaction emoji.
Once again, you're 100% sure that a deal Trump hasn't even made is terrible.
You may want to tuck that in, your TDS is showing again.
I could not agree more.......It comes from doing the absolute bare minimum amount of research. You really need to learn how to Google basic phrases. You have to be one of the least informed posters in this forum, and we have guys like Kalim running around. It's honestly embarrassing.
Russia’s Year of Truth: The Soldier Shortage
Despite Russian misinformation, there is a crisis in Vladimir Putin’s military with a lack of troop recruitment and mounting casualties.cepa.org
Russia’s War Economy Is Hitting Its Limits
Key weapons are running out as Moscow tries to mobilize ever more labor and resources.
Two Russian Government Ministers Say Putin’s Russia Running Out of Soviet Resource Reserves
Executive Summary: Russian President Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine has rapidly turned into a war of attrition. Along with Moscow’s difficulties raising an army and adequately equipping it, Russia is running out of the resource reserves left over from Soviet times. Senior Russian officials...jamestown.org
Russia could run out of tanks by 2026: Report
The International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS) has said that current Russian tank losses in Ukraine are unsustainable.
Russia won’t be able to afford troops in Ukraine past 2026 as economy struggles, experts say
With about 30,000 to 45,000 Russian troops killed or injured in Ukraine each month, Moscow can likely only afford another 12 to 16 months of fighting at its current pace, an expert told The Post.
Disarmed forces: Putin has “ground down” nearly all Soviet military stockpiles, reducing the intensity of the war in Ukraine
Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine has led to the bloodiest conflict in Europe since World War II. It has also resulted in the largest depletion of military equipment in 80 years. Vast stockpiles of primarily Soviet-era weaponry, originally designed at the height of the Cold War for use in...
Russia is running out of weapons and workers
The country’s depleting supplies means it may need to rein in its offensive against Ukraine.
AI Overview
Learn more
Yes, analysts suggest Russia is facing increasing resource constraints in its war effort, particularly concerning military hardware and manpower. While Russia can draw upon its large stockpiles of Soviet-era equipment, these reserves are dwindling, and current production rates are struggling to keep pace with battlefield losses. Some projections indicate that Russia may exhaust its Soviet-era equipment stockpiles by the end of 2025 or 2026.
Here's a more detailed look at the situation:
1. Military Hardware Shortages:
2. Manpower Issues:
- Slow Production:
Russia's defense industrial base is struggling to produce new armored vehicles and artillery systems quickly enough to offset losses.
- Dwindling Stockpiles:
While Russia has a vast stockpile of Soviet-era equipment, it is being depleted at a rapid rate, with projections suggesting it could run out of cannon barrels by 2025.
- Losses Outpace Production:
Russia is losing vehicles and artillery systems faster than it can produce them, leading to a shortage of critical equipment.
- Examples:
Open-source researchers have documented the loss of thousands of infantry fighting vehicles, and the production of new vehicles cannot keep pace with these losses.
3. Economic Constraints:
- Soldier Shortages:
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The war in Ukraine has resulted in significant casualties and disablements, contributing to a looming shortage of soldiers.- Recruitment Challenges:
.Opens in new tab
Despite mobilization efforts, Russia is facing difficulties in recruiting enough soldiers to fill the gaps caused by casualties.
4. Potential Implications:
- Increased Spending:
The war effort has significantly increased Russia's defense spending, putting pressure on its economy.- Sanctions:
Sanctions have made it more difficult for Russia to import necessary components for defense production.- Rising Costs:
The cost of producing weapons has increased, further straining Russia's economic resources.
- Reduced Military Effectiveness:
Shortages of equipment and manpower could lead to a reduction in the Russian military's ability to conduct operations.
- Increased Pressure for a Peace Deal:
The resource constraints could increase pressure on Russia to seek a peace deal.
- Long-Term Strain:
The war effort is putting a significant strain on Russia's economy and military capabilities, which could have long-term consequences.
Bradly cannot possibly consider himself a REAL American. He wants Trump to fail MORE than he wants America to prosper. I truly do not like people like this, and wish that they would move away from OUR Country.
I don't understand it. But I also don't have terminal TDS, so I probably never will.
So if Russia is in such bad shape why negotiate now? And why agree to terms that benefit Russia? We should just keep grinding on. That’s been the argument since 2022. Maybe now these people are right?
How many of these same constraints apply to Ukraine and its backers? Who are Ukraine’s backers? In terms of production of munitions, where does Russia get theirs? Where does Ukraine get theirs?It comes from doing the absolute bare minimum amount of research. You really need to learn how to Google basic phrases. You have to be one of the least informed posters in this forum, and we have guys like Kalim running around. It's honestly embarrassing.
Russia’s Year of Truth: The Soldier Shortage
Despite Russian misinformation, there is a crisis in Vladimir Putin’s military with a lack of troop recruitment and mounting casualties.
Russia’s War Economy Is Hitting Its Limits
Key weapons are running out as Moscow tries to mobilize ever more labor and resources.
Two Russian Government Ministers Say Putin’s Russia Running Out of Soviet Resource Reserves
Executive Summary: Russian President Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine has rapidly turned into a war of attrition. Along with Moscow’s difficulties raising an army and adequately equipping it, Russia is running out of the resource reserves left over from Soviet times. Senior Russian officials...
Russia could run out of tanks by 2026: Report
The International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS) has said that current Russian tank losses in Ukraine are unsustainable.
Russia won’t be able to afford troops in Ukraine past 2026 as economy struggles, experts say
With about 30,000 to 45,000 Russian troops killed or injured in Ukraine each month, Moscow can likely only afford another 12 to 16 months of fighting at its current pace, an expert told The Post.
Disarmed forces: Putin has “ground down” nearly all Soviet military stockpiles, reducing the intensity of the war in Ukraine
Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine has led to the bloodiest conflict in Europe since World War II. It has also resulted in the largest depletion of military equipment in 80 years. Vast stockpiles of primarily Soviet-era weaponry, originally designed at the height of the Cold War for use in...
Russia is running out of weapons and workers
The country’s depleting supplies means it may need to rein in its offensive against Ukraine.
AI Overview
Learn more
Yes, analysts suggest Russia is facing increasing resource constraints in its war effort, particularly concerning military hardware and manpower. While Russia can draw upon its large stockpiles of Soviet-era equipment, these reserves are dwindling, and current production rates are struggling to keep pace with battlefield losses. Some projections indicate that Russia may exhaust its Soviet-era equipment stockpiles by the end of 2025 or 2026.
Here's a more detailed look at the situation:
1. Military Hardware Shortages:
2. Manpower Issues:
- Slow Production:
Russia's defense industrial base is struggling to produce new armored vehicles and artillery systems quickly enough to offset losses.
- Dwindling Stockpiles:
While Russia has a vast stockpile of Soviet-era equipment, it is being depleted at a rapid rate, with projections suggesting it could run out of cannon barrels by 2025.
- Losses Outpace Production:
Russia is losing vehicles and artillery systems faster than it can produce them, leading to a shortage of critical equipment.
- Examples:
Open-source researchers have documented the loss of thousands of infantry fighting vehicles, and the production of new vehicles cannot keep pace with these losses.
3. Economic Constraints:
- Soldier Shortages:
.Opens in new tab
The war in Ukraine has resulted in significant casualties and disablements, contributing to a looming shortage of soldiers.- Recruitment Challenges:
.Opens in new tab
Despite mobilization efforts, Russia is facing difficulties in recruiting enough soldiers to fill the gaps caused by casualties.
4. Potential Implications:
- Increased Spending:
The war effort has significantly increased Russia's defense spending, putting pressure on its economy.- Sanctions:
Sanctions have made it more difficult for Russia to import necessary components for defense production.- Rising Costs:
The cost of producing weapons has increased, further straining Russia's economic resources.
- Reduced Military Effectiveness:
Shortages of equipment and manpower could lead to a reduction in the Russian military's ability to conduct operations.
- Increased Pressure for a Peace Deal:
The resource constraints could increase pressure on Russia to seek a peace deal.
- Long-Term Strain:
The war effort is putting a significant strain on Russia's economy and military capabilities, which could have long-term consequences.
You guys used to ask these questions when Biden was in charge. Now that it’s Trump you post Newsweek(!) articles about how Russia is falling apart.
As always, we don’t have to argue about it, if Russia is really on the brink, I presume we’ll have a ceasefire deal soon on very positive terms for the US and Ukraine.
Would you guys say the mineral deal got better terms for the US than Russia’s current access?
If not why didn’t we do better given Russian’s weakened condition (per Newsweek).
Are you proposing we put boots on the ground and take back territory Russia has taken? If so I’m so thankful you aren’t in charge. That’s how world wars are started.
And you’re changing the subject. The subject was, how is Russia doing from a resource standpoint and how would that play in to their potential provocation of the US. As I stated, we’d roll Russia if it came to that. They are severely weakened.
And yes, I posted Newsweek (and NY Post) to prove how completely uninformed you are. Both sides of the aisle are reporting the same thing. It’s not partisan. There are facts and there are BradleyGator’s posts. They are not in alignment.
Because this isn’t our war. Russia spilled blood and treasure to gain that territory. And go back to the core principles of mutual benefit, Russia gets something out of this deal too. That’s how deals work.
We aren’t the global police we just want secure access to resources and for the bloodshed to stop.
I guess the latter isn’t a noble enough goal in your eyes?
He's been wrong at every stage of this debate. It's not that his logic was wrong, he didn't even understand basic terms like 'tariff' and 'negotiation'.
He's in a big hole. A smart guy would stop digging. He thinks if he can get Trump (and his supporters) to be wrong once, that will erase the 50 times he was wrong.
So every move Trump makes from now on will be his do-over. A chance to even the score.
Yet...he will continue to lose and that hole will eventually reach China.
Lucy needs to be his nickname! LOL Because she keeps pulling the ball away..and he keeps trying to kick it! LOLOL
Sadly this could have been accomplished much earlier and with much less lives on both sides lost. Putin can still claim some victory here and de-escalation is needed. Don’t underestimate the value of retail product shipment resumption to Russia and Ukraine either. The Baltic sea ports have basically been shut down for a long time. There is a lot of pent up demand which will open up for International commerce quickly in the region without the imminent threats of further local conflict. Project growth will be exponentially needed for infrastructure snd rebuilds as well, stimulating resource needs Globally. If there is any silver lining to these horrible situations, this is one of only a few that can be pointed to.
That’s Ukraine not Russia. However, I concede that Trump has been effective here.
Saw most of Europe is supportive. And saw that Trump was negotiating to restore some natural gas supply from Russia to Europe.
So who knows how it shakes out but I concede Trump has shown commitment here and been pretty effective as far as lining up the leverage.
Also impressive that he has shown some distance from Israel as far as opening the Red Sea for western shipping (absent Israel) and in negotiating with Iran.
Obviously a thousand ways all this could go off the rails, but it’s an impressive effort.
Not looking for you to make any concessions, just sharing a positive development. And I understand it's not over.
Obviously all of our opinions mean nothing. But I agree he’s showing a pretty cohesive approach to all of these issues. I was impressed when i saw he was talking LNG with Russia, because that’s the biggest carrot you can offer and also it’s a bit of a concession from the US which has taken over the business in europe since nordstream blew up.
Also was a pleasant surprise when he basically announced the Houthis are Israel’s problem.
It appears that neither Putin or Zelensky care how many are lost. In fact, it appears Zelensky is more than happy to drag the conflict out as long as the checks keep coming for doing so.
Under Biden it was 'What will you give me to keep the war going?"
Under Trump it's "What will you give me to stop the fighting?" While trying to negotiate with Europe at the same time to get paid to keep fighting,
I have no idea how so many on the right can seem to think Putin is pure evil, Zelensky is just harmless.
He's either got no more men and boys to kidnap off the streets to suck them into his war or he's lying again about the ceasefire.
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