I love how you conflate taking an innocent life, ie abortion, with premarital sex. Same with adultery. Those are pretty clear cut. That lets me know you don’t know how to logically support your position without deflecting.
Maybe I will.
Funny how we all need to "read up more" or "brush up." Conflate? You missed my point entirely? How is that possible?! It's called a moral thread.
So, this has been going on for 2 years? wow.
Two years? Nah, I’ve been raising hell OTB this board for over a decade. You’re welcome to leave at any time. I’ll be here long after you and your crew are gone.
Correct. And my point is different Christians hold different positions on certain moral issues. I then gave a pastors opinion which supported mine, and no one has provided any biblical reference to dispute it.
You can’t just say it a sin and not support your position. That would just make it your opinion.
Incorrect take. I’m saying it’s not a mistake at all. And most people don’t consider it a mistake either, otherwise they wouldn’t be doing it.
You of all people deemed sola scriptura as not scriptural, yet you are now suggesting that since any of these "sins" might not be listed in scripture, then they are irrelevant and not sins. (Not all of them are indeed sins.) Let me try and tell you a simple, quick concept on contraceptives. But first put your finger into one ear and listen with the other so this can settled inside your warped mind. All contraceptives ARE NOT sinful when needed for medical reasons. What happens surrounding this contraceptive action is liable to the woman in this way: When a woman uses it to keep from having a baby (suppressing the natural act of life through pregnancy) so she can have sex anytime she wants to outside of the marriage bedroom (or within), then that is a sin. I challenge you right now to call a priest and ask them if I am correct. Check this out: Catechism of the Catholic Church #2370, ..."every action which, whether in anticipation of the conjugal act (having sex), or in its accomplishment, or in the development of its natural consequences, proposes, whether as an end or as a means, to render procreation (getting pregnant) impossible" is intrinsically evil. Dare to challenge?
There was also another libtard who claimed to be a conservative. He went by the name of ufrichter.
Nope, that’s my understanding as well. You finally got something right. Obviously many Protestants and Catholics disagree.
Again, I don’t believe sex is a sin if in a loving relationship. It’s a God given, natural human function that people have wrongfully treated as something wrong.
Ha. I figured it was your sorry ass he was responding to. Once agin, you got everything wrong.
I’m not sure what you mean by those fancy words, but I discern that it’s God given in that most all humans have sexual desires. The commitment part is more fluid, but that’s where marriage comes in. But some people don’t want to, or can’t be married. Especially older people. There is no reason to to deny them the gift of sexual intimacy, even after they can no longer have children. As you know, the Catholic Church has a history of repressing Sexual desires, the classic Catholic guilt. But I believe they’ve come to back off that stance, especially in light of the damage it can do psychologically. I understand why this is done for minors, but mature adults should be able to make that decision without the guilt associated with it. I’m not talking about free love, but rather responsible sexual adults.
Who didn’t Ghostof Spaceheater get into a verbal sparring match with? He finally put me on ignore as well, which I considered to be a victory.
Nah, there are plenty of crazy pastors. There are no prerequisites to become a pastor, like there is to be a priest.
The latter. Which is why it should be confined to intimate relationships iMO. That’s where the discipline comes in. But not solely for procreation like is taught in the Church.
