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Coaches don't really withhold. More times than not they go into a game against a cupcake with specific things they want to work on, like let's say the screen game, our or redzone plays, etc and so because of their focus on one area it appears as if they're holding things back because you're not seeing the whole playbook. But that's not holding things back as much as it is using cupcakes to work on specific areas over others.

That said using that excuse for what we saw is bunk because we were very aggressive on offense. We attacked downfield and had multiple formations and shifts...we threw 45 times. We weren't out there trying to play conservative and hold anything back. We just didn't play well and Mac has said as much. Like I said before it doesn't mean we suck and the season is doomed, but just call a spade a spade. Offensively we didn't play well and they have to get better no way around it.
True words...not hating...but it is what it is...watch the presser...Mac said so and it wasn't pretty. Love my Gators...we'll see how we come out next week.
 
Semantics. But I do like your take on it. I think you are exactly right. I also think though that coaches do sometimes try to not run a few things so they don't put them on tape for the conference schedule.
Spurrier, on the other hand, I think he did the opposite. Back in the 90's when we played Tenn the third game of the season, it seemed like he tried to run the whole playbook in the first 2 games. Poor ole Fulmer. It's a wonder Spurrier didn't literally cause that guy a nervous breakdown
Semantice?????...dude we didn't execute plays on offense...some of you guys act like this shit is so complicated...EXECUTE PLAYS...did you see Ohio State...they executed all of their plays on offense and they scored 70+ points...we didn't execute plays consistently on offense, that doesn't mean we're doomed, doesn't mean we can't win....but...how hard is that to understand?
 
Spurrier wanted Phil to know what was coming. He wanted Phil to prepare for it
All while drawing up something new and never using some of what UT was preparing for.
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Semantics. But I do like your take on it. I think you are exactly right. I also think though that coaches do sometimes try to not run a few things so they don't put them on tape for the conference schedule.

Spurrier, on the other hand, I think he did the opposite. Back in the 90's when we played Tenn the third game of the season, it seemed like he tried to run the whole playbook in the first 2 games. Poor ole Fulmer. It's a wonder Spurrier didn't literally cause that guy a nervous breakdown

1990
UF 27 - 3 Furman (non-1A) - early in season
UF 59 - 0 Akron - late in the season
Later on, his teams and his offense were so solid that he no longer felt any need to sandbag for anyone anymore. ;) Besides, as Jerri has often said, Steve is such a brat when it comes to winning, at everything, and winning big is always better. :D (gotta luv-um)

I don't think that constantly attempting to compare SOS with the current Gator coaches is productive. This is a different time. Even SOS asked all of you to support Mc-staff, and to help them succeed for all of us. :cool:
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"The OC, Doug Nussmeier, wanted to keep it vanilla in the first game. Florida coach Jim McElwain and his assistants obviously didn’t show all their cards against UMass, even with the game close in the second half. We saw a base defense and not a lot of offensive creativity, but that was to be expected. The coaches knew they could win with simple schemes, but they’ll have to show more against Kentucky and get the team to play sharper." -- Zach-A o_O (so Zach knows sandbaggin' when he see's it)

The Gator's SEC opener is next Sat, but there's still no such thing as sand-baggin' a game against a weak 1st opponent.... iG :rolleyes:

PS -- I look for the OL and the running game to perform a lot better on a dry field. At least I hope so... :)
 
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LOL. Funny how the goalposts move. So you, the guy who always says the coaches know more than anybody are suddenly taking the word of a paid mouthpiece over McElwain himself? McElwain was very upset with the offensive performance but maybe he's just clueless and didn't know that he was sandbagging his own offense. I'm still waiting to hear how a team who threw the ball 45 times was sandbagging also.
 
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Spurrier wanted Phil to know what was coming. He wanted Phil to prepare for it
All while drawing up something new and never using some of what UT was preparing for.
We used to laugh about that. Spurrier would show some stuff on offense in the first two games we never used again. Just to make UT have to prepare for it.
 
Phat-Phil came into the game always expecting the Fun & Gun.

One season in that era, Spurrier started the game against tennis-sea with nothing but running plays, all the way down the field for a TD.

The very next season, he started the game against tennis-sea with nothing but passing plays, all the way down the field for a TD.

Sun Tzu! :D

And Phit-Phil was having a nervous break-down, he just covered it fairly well... :cool:
 
All in all it wasn't the performance that we wanted to see on offense...defensive line has to be a LOT more disruptive. We did see some good things though...although we didn't have more explosive plays I thought that LDR played well...he threw the ball away...made some good check down throws and threw the ball pretty well....he missed some passes and the WR's dropped some balls too. We need to be more consistent on offense...we'll see if we can play better next week. I like that kicker....he was clutch...he can win us some games for sure.

The the first thing that sticks out to me in a quarterback is how your offense feeds off you. The defense feeds off Tabor & Davis, they stay fired up. Del Rio & Callaway needs to show some enthusiasm & keep our playmakers pumped. Our kicker shows more excitement than our quarterback. Look at Alabama Saturday. They showed excitement and urgency. Even up 45-6, every cut at receiver, every block, every tackle was wide open, every play they were trying to get better. Meanwhile, we're up 10-7 in the 4th, we're walking around the huddle with a lollipop, waiting for someone to step up. We need someone in the huddle slapping face masks around & some coaches staying on that Azz play in, & play out, to get better, every play. This is the swamp, how can you not be pumped up to run somebody out of the stadium the night the hbc returns? -Defensively, I liked Zuniga, guys got potential, & that Jermaine Cunningham frame.
 
Coaches, when they can, do attempt to keep things a bit more vanilla against 'perceived' inferior opponents. They focus on 'execution' of those more basic plays, etc. Execution of the basic plays will allow a team to expand their offense to more specific game plan plays based on the opponent. Florida, most years, has followed this formula since the first two/three games of the season are usually tune ups. Coach Mc will have a pretty specific game plan ready by the time UT rolls around. It is actually one of the reasons why UF has been so successful against UT most years especially when the talent level is comparable. For example, Tennessee continually schedules teams such as Oregon, Oklahoma, Georgia, VaTech, etc prior to the UF game. Tennessee does not get to focus on UF and 'build up' towards that game until the week of that game. UF, fortunately, can game plan for Tennessee in August and continue that planning through the first three weeks of the season by staying basic and focus on execution. UT, on the other hand, must expand their playbook quickly and have their offense ready to go. They cannot afford to be too conservative and work on basics during those much more challenging games.

Coaches are very strategic when it comes to what they want an opponent to see on film prior to their game and UF has the luxury most years to dictate what that film entails. Other programs such as UT, FSU, etc, are not.
 
It is actually one of the reasons why UF has been so successful against UT most years especially when the talent level is comparable. For example, Tennessee continually schedules teams such as Oregon, Oklahoma, Georgia, VaTech, etc prior to the UF game. Tennessee does not get to focus on UF and 'build up' towards that game until the week of that game.

I did not know FSU fans were part of the Tennessee apology support group?
 
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UT plays Vandy as their in-state rival.

Not a team like FSU.

They can deal with playing a decent OOC team too, just like UF.

So boo freaking hoo.
 
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Who is dictating things with this offense mostly Nuss or Mac? Hopefully we turn it around this week. Nuss had multiple 3,000 yard 30+ TD QBs at 2 of his previous stops as OC. Is it just Del Rio doesn't have the arm strength to stretch the field a lot.
 
You guys know that it was also a monsoon for a good part of the game, right?

Can we PLEASE chill?
 
I have seen no evidence that LDR has a particularly weak arm. The first pass of the game was an overthrow to the speedy Callaway.

Hard to say I guess. He can throw it far but the velocity doesnt seem to be that high on some of his passes.
 
Del Rio doesn't possess a very strong arm but I don't necessarily think you have to have a strong arm to be a good college QB.
 
Again, I have only seen him in the spring game and Saturday. He does not throw a laser, but he seem to be able to throw out patterns and the such pretty well.
 
Who is dictating things with this offense mostly Nuss or Mac? Hopefully we turn it around this week. Nuss had multiple 3,000 yard 30+ TD QBs at 2 of his previous stops as OC. Is it just Del Rio doesn't have the arm strength to stretch the field a lot.

We don't have the running game and OL those Bama teams had
 
Some are already doubting LDR after one game.


Now that Week 1 is in the books, tell me a SEC QB (not listed on the Bama roster) that was overly impressive. Chad Kelly has proved multiple games now he isn't a big group QB like he is made out to be. Dobbs has to have a "star aligned" night that best you with his arm.
 
UT plays Vandy as their in-state rival.

Not a team like FSU.

They can deal with playing a decent OOC team too, just like UF.

So boo freaking hoo.



We also play ALABAMA every single year as well. We play Georgia in Athens every other year and while you will claim you playing LSU cancels out our playing Alabama, they really don't in most years.
 
Coaches, when they can, do attempt to keep things a bit more vanilla against 'perceived' inferior opponents. They focus on 'execution' of those more basic plays, etc. Execution of the basic plays will allow a team to expand their offense to more specific game plan plays based on the opponent.

Florida, most years, has followed this formula since the first two/three games of the season are usually tune ups. Coach Mc will have a pretty specific game plan ready by the time UT rolls around. It is actually one of the reasons why UF has been so successful against UT most years especially when the talent level is comparable.

For example, Tennessee continually schedules teams such as Oregon, Oklahoma, Georgia, VaTech, etc prior to the UF game. Tennessee does not get to focus on UF and 'build up' towards that game until the week of that game. UF, fortunately, can game plan for Tennessee in August and continue that planning through the first three weeks of the season by staying basic and focus on execution. UT, on the other hand, must expand their playbook quickly and have their offense ready to go. They cannot afford to be too conservative and work on basics during those much more challenging games.

Coaches are very strategic when it comes to what they want an opponent to see on film prior to their game and UF has the luxury most years to dictate what that film entails. Other programs such as UT, FSU, etc, are not.

Tennis-sea Opponents Prior to Playing UF:

2015 - BGSU, OK, W.Ca (non-1A), UF
UF Opp's - N.MexSt, ECa, UK, Tn

2014 - UtahSt, ArkSt, OK, UGA, UF
UF Opp's - E.Mich, UK, ALABAMA, Tn

2013 - Austin Peay (non-1A), W.Ky, Ore, UF
UF Opp's - Idaho rain-out, Toledo, MIAMI, Tn

2012 - 7-6 NCSt, GaSt, UF
UF Opp's - BGSU, Tex A&M, Tn

Does no one ever actually check a schedule before posting total BS?

Have you been using the Mad-Dog-Dollie's Book - 'The Idiot's Guide to Gator / Vol Game Lore' for your information? If so, burn the book and GTF away from that moe-ron....

As far as reFSUcks goes, at least half of their schedule are patsy opponents, including the in-Conf. Almost Competitive Conference.
2015 - 3-9 TxSt, 8-5 USF, 3-9 BC, 3-9 WF, 3-9 GaTech, 4-8 Syr, TnChatt (non-1A).
So I'm not going to bother going any further on that account. :rolleyes:

PS

The Gator's 2017 OoC Opponents: 1st Mich,,, N.Colo, UAB,,, Last FSU.
 
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Tennis-sea Opponents Prior to Playing UF:

2015 - BGSU, OK, W.Ca (non-1A), UF
UF Opp's - N.MexSt, ECa, UK, Tn

2014 - UtahSt, ArkSt, OK, UGA, UF
UF Opp's - E.Mich, UK, ALABAMA, Tn

2013 - Austin Peay (non-1A), W.Ky, Ore, UF
UF Opp's - Toledo, MIAMI, Tn

2012 - 7-6 NCSt, GaSt, UF
UF Opp's - BGSU, Tex A&M, Tn

Does no one ever actually check a schedule before posting total BS?

Have you been using the Mad-Dog-Dollie's Book - 'The Idiot's Guide to Gator / Vol Game Lore' for your information? If so, burn the book and GTF away from that moe-ron....

As far as reFSUcks goes, at least half of their schedule are patsy opponents, including the in-Conf. Almost Competitive Conference.
2015 - 3-9 TxSt, 8-5 USF, 3-9 BC, 3-9 WF, 3-9 GaTech, 4-8 Syr, TnChatt (non-1A).
So I'm not going to bother going any further on that account. :rolleyes:

PS

The Gator's 2017 OoC Opponents: 1st Mich,,, N.Colo, UAB,,, Last FSU.


The ONLY reason you are playing Michigan next year is because the NCAA Made you. At the time the game was scheduled, Missedagain was lousy.

They ain't any more
Foley wouldn't have dared schedule such an opponent and made the Swamp Donkeys leave the borders of Florida.

NCAA mandated we play NCST in Atlanta in the opener in 2012 and mandated we open with Ga. Tech. in Atlanta next year as well.

Get used to more NCAA mandated match-ups. They like meddling and if the game in Bristol goes well ratings wise, they will be scheduling several more games there in the future.
 
The ONLY reason you are playing Michigan next year is because the NCAA Made you. At the time the game was scheduled, Missedagain was lousy.

They ain't any more
Foley wouldn't have dared schedule such an opponent and made the Swamp Donkeys leave the borders of Florida.

NCAA mandated we play NCST in Atlanta in the opener in 2012 and mandated we open with Ga. Tech. in Atlanta next year as well.

Get used to more NCAA mandated match-ups. They like meddling and if the game in Bristol goes well ratings wise, they will be scheduling several more games there in the future.


It doesn't matter why we play them. We play them. It doesn't matter what they were when it was scheduled. Hell wasn't it scheduled the year UF went 4-8? The fact is UF plays them.
 
We also play ALABAMA every single year as well. We play Georgia in Athens every other year and while you will claim you playing LSU cancels out our playing Alabama, they really don't in most years.

With that argument, UF never gets to play I'm Gainesville against UGA...every other year.

Yes Bama has had the top 1-5 teams for the past 10 years.

Don't act like LSU has had 30th ranked or less teams the past 10 years.

That is the SEC's doing, not UF's.
 
I showed that the posters claims were BS. I showed (using the facts) that the last 4 years tennis-sea has played patsy teams before playing UF, and that in 3 of those 4 years UF has played Ala, Mia, and aTm before playing tennis-sea. And for the 2nd year in a row, UF doesn't open SEC play with your rubber-dollies either.

I followed the poster claims with proof that it was FoS. :confused:

Then you pop in with more of your usual idiot BS.
There are NO real excuses for your sucky bums losing 11 in a row to the Gators, other than them being sucky, over and over. o_O

We'll see in a few weeks if the Gators can make it an even dozen... :cool:

Also, if UF wins the SECe, they will have to play FSU the week before the SEC-C game.
While if tennis-sea wins the SECe, they get to play around with Candy before the SEC-C game. :rolleyes:
 
Looking at our starters on offense over half of them (6 of the 11) are blue chip (4 or 5 star) Rivals recruits. You would think we would be doing better there considering that.
 
We also play ALABAMA every single year as well. We play Georgia in Athens every other year and while you will claim you playing LSU cancels out our playing Alabama, they really don't in most years.

Is that a joke?
 
Tennis-sea Opponents Prior to Playing UF:

2015 - BGSU, OK, W.Ca (non-1A), UF
UF Opp's - N.MexSt, ECa, UK, Tn

2014 - UtahSt, ArkSt, OK, UGA, UF
UF Opp's - E.Mich, UK, ALABAMA, Tn

2013 - Austin Peay (non-1A), W.Ky, Ore, UF
UF Opp's - Toledo, MIAMI, Tn

2012 - 7-6 NCSt, GaSt, UF
UF Opp's - BGSU, Tex A&M, Tn

Does no one ever actually check a schedule before posting total BS?

Have you been using the Mad-Dog-Dollie's Book - 'The Idiot's Guide to Gator / Vol Game Lore' for your information? If so, burn the book and GTF away from that moe-ron....

As far as reFSUcks goes, at least half of their schedule are patsy opponents, including the in-Conf. Almost Competitive Conference.
2015 - 3-9 TxSt, 8-5 USF, 3-9 BC, 3-9 WF, 3-9 GaTech, 4-8 Syr, TnChatt (non-1A).
So I'm not going to bother going any further on that account. :rolleyes:

PS

The Gator's 2017 OoC Opponents: 1st Mich,,, N.Colo, UAB,,, Last FSU.

Well, I probably not should bother backing up any argument with you, but I will give it a shot. The point at the beginning was Tenn. could not play conservatively and hold back/be vanilla on offense prior to the UF game because every year they have at least one tough game prior to playing UF. As you can see with your post and I also mentioned in mine, Oklahoma, Oregon, and Vatech have been on UT's schedule very early each of the past several seasons. UF, otoh, can afford to stay vanilla and basic and just focus on executing. They can add the major wrinkles and specific plays/formations four games into the season,,,

Now, UF;s early schedule does change for a season next year (Mich), but that has not yet happened, however I am sure you realize that,,
 
We also play ALABAMA every single year as well. We play Georgia in Athens every other year and while you will claim you playing LSU cancels out our playing Alabama, they really don't in most years.

Jesus...what a whiny bitch.

If UT had defeated UF for the past 11 years, thee would be no need to cry about your schedule.
 
Looking at our starters on offense over half of them (6 of the 11) are blue chip (4 or 5 star) Rivals recruits. You would think we would be doing better there considering that.
Geez man. It was just 1 game and it was Del Rio's first start ever as a college QB.
 
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Geez man. It was just 1 game and it was Del Rio's first start ever as a college QB.
Outside of a 3-4 throws Del Rio played well...he got rid of the ball and didn't take sacks...he was mostly accurate, he knew what he was doing. Certainly, for anyone that watched the game, everyone saw that the Line needs to play better...WR's need to catch balls too but the biggest issue with the offense was the O line.
 
The ONLY reason you are playing Michigan next year is because the NCAA Made you. At the time the game was scheduled, Missedagain was lousy.

They ain't any more
Foley wouldn't have dared schedule such an opponent and made the Swamp Donkeys leave the borders of Florida.

NCAA mandated we play NCST in Atlanta in the opener in 2012 and mandated we open with Ga. Tech. in Atlanta next year as well.

Get used to more NCAA mandated match-ups. They like meddling and if the game in Bristol goes well ratings wise, they will be scheduling several more games there in the future.

Geesh, you really are crazy! Where do you come up with this stuff?
 
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