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This administration NEVER fails to disappoint....

I hate to be insulting, but kalim strikes me as being about 20 years old, with zero life experience. He cannot intelligently debate the topics we are discussing, because he's never left the house to experience the 'real world'. When pressed, he will offer his take on how he thinks the world operates, and that immediately proves his ignorance.

He still has a chance to grow up and learn.
I believe this to be very close, if not a dead on assessment.
 
KalimGoodman was too afraid to agree with the point so he instead uses the term "talking point" which most knowledgable people know is a dismissive term used to either imply disagreement with the point or at least to downplay it. Then he comes back and says that he never said it was false. This is a perfect example of the games and riddles he plays.
It is a talking point. Do you know what a talking point is?

Some education because it's clear that you struggle with politics.

A talking point is a topic given to people associated with a party to keep mentioning or it's given to media to use to criticize. Like when you watch Republicans giving interviews, they will all bring up "border", "fentanyl", "crime", "CRT", "trans". The democrats will bring up "de-regs", "systemic racism" "tax the rich" "Healthcare" "pto". You seriously can't think that people just sync thoughts/ideas by accident. There are conservative and liberal groups that will write policies then will have every state legislation pass it. Politicians are puppets 80% of the time.

It's not that it's false or incorrect, it just comes from a bad place. It shows your inability to think on your own. Like you need the politicians to tell you what's important or what to talk about. Be a free thinker!

CRT was around since like the 80s. Now one Republican decided that it would help win votes and decided to use it to divide. Now you guys talk about CRT like its the worse thing ever. Why wasn't that a thing in the 80s? See talking point.

Lastly this watch thing, this was started by Republican people as a way to attack Biden. They decided to single out that picture and blast it on Republican TV to get a negative response. See talking point.

I don't expect you to ever be a free thinker. That's not you. Fatman76 can be a free thinker but we all fall victim of talking points.
 
It is a talking point. Do you know what a talking point is?

Some education because it's clear that you struggle with politics.

A talking point is a topic given to people associated with a party to keep mentioning or it's given to media to use to criticize. Like when you watch Republicans giving interviews, they will all bring up "border", "fentanyl", "crime", "CRT", "trans". The democrats will bring up "de-regs", "systemic racism" "tax the rich" "Healthcare" "pto". You seriously can't think that people just sync thoughts/ideas by accident. There are conservative and liberal groups that will write policies then will have every state legislation pass it. Politicians are puppets 80% of the time.

It's not that it's false or incorrect, it just comes from a bad place. It shows your inability to think on your own. Like you need the politicians to tell you what's important or what to talk about. Be a free thinker!

CRT was around since like the 80s. Now one Republican decided that it would help win votes and decided to use it to divide. Now you guys talk about CRT like its the worse thing ever. Why wasn't that a thing in the 80s? See talking point.

Lastly this watch thing, this was started by Republican people as a way to attack Biden. They decided to single out that picture and blast it on Republican TV to get a negative response. See talking point.

I don't expect you to ever be a free thinker. That's not you. Fatman76 can be a free thinker but we all fall victim of talking points.
My goodness you're brainwashed.

CRT was not around in it's current form in the 1980's. Do you know where it actually came from and what the goals are? I actually went to school in the 80's and 90's (graduated in 1995) and none of the current CRT ideas were ever taught to me - first time I'd ever heard any of it was in the last few years. I was taught that we are equal even when different, not that I am the oppressor and any POC is oppressed.

And you can't just list the things Democrats are doing poorly on and just dismiss them as "Talking points'. Most of those are facts.

Fact: The border is more insecure than it's ever been. Chinese fentanyl is coming across the southern border, we've intercepted some of it. Fentanyl is killing 100k people a year. But we can't bring it up because it's politics and a "talking point"? The bottom line is the democrats want as many illegals in the country as possible so they can grant amnesty and create a new voting block to stay in power. They don't care about fent deaths because dealing with it might ruin their plan.
 
I haven't endorsed any policies. I don't recall me stomping for Biden's agenda. I never will support everything any president does or says. As I said previously, no president is perfect. I just know that I voted for him, and I fully stand by my vote for Biden. At that time, it was a great vote and it's turning out to be even better.

Also, I am trying to hide my support of Biden. I am all in for him. That doesn't make me a democrat. Your logic is always odd. 54% of independents and 6% of Republicans voted for Biden.

I swear you are the most ignorant person on this board when it comes to politics, I really can't figure why you even post.
LOLOLOL SO TRUE...I know what it DOES make you, though! LOL
 
I won't say POS, just not a good look or his finest moment. Biden overall involvement with the military is great.
We have multiple members of the military posting here, I believe.

Let's let them come forward and tell us how great Hiden has been to them...

Anyone? Beuller? Beuller??
 
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We have multiple members of the military posting here, I believe.

Let's let them come forward and tell us how great Hiden has been to them...

Anyone? Beuller? Beuller??
My wife is retired military...and I live within 7 miles of THREE major bases. Our whole area is either active of retired military. We vote 73% Republican, and have forever. Military people do not like America hating socialism loving racists.
 
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My wife is retired military...and I live within 7 miles of THREE major bases. Our whole area is either active of retired military. We vote 73% Republican, and have forever. Military people do not like America hating socialism loving racists.
Or leadership that allows 13 men to die for no reason then checks their watch every 120 seconds at their funerals?
 
My goodness you're brainwashed.

CRT was not around in it's current form in the 1980's. Do you know where it actually came from and what the goals are? I actually went to school in the 80's and 90's (graduated in 1995) and none of the current CRT ideas were ever taught to me - first time I'd ever heard any of it was in the last few years. I was taught that we are equal even when different, not that I am the oppressor and any POC is oppressed.

And you can't just list the things Democrats are doing poorly on and just dismiss them as "Talking points'. Most of those are facts.

Fact: The border is more insecure than it's ever been. Chinese fentanyl is coming across the southern border, we've intercepted some of it. Fentanyl is killing 100k people a year. But we can't bring it up because it's politics and a "talking point"? The bottom line is the democrats want as many illegals in the country as possible so they can grant amnesty and create a new voting block to stay in power. They don't care about fent deaths because dealing with it might ruin their plan.
I was wrong. It was around in the 60s. You want to believe that it wasn't around or changed because it makes you feel better about following "talking points".



Also, fentanyl deaths were on a rise since 1999. It was at an all time high under Trump and now at a higher level under Biden. Instead of acknowledging that we have to find away to stop it. You guys make it a democrat problem. The data shows it was a problem under Trump. The reason why you make it a Biden problem...talking points!

 
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I was wrong. It was around in the 60s. You want to believe that it wasn't around or changed because it makes you feel better about following "talking points".

You realize you claimed for months that CRT was invented by Republicans right?

And now you're a historian on the subject?

How does CRT in the 60's differ from what's taught today? Where was CRT taught before the 2020's and where is it taught now? How does this relate to Critical Theory and how has Critical Theory been used in communist countries...for example, China?

Researching the answers these questions will help you understand CRT much better.
 
I was wrong. It was around in the 60s. You want to believe that it wasn't around or changed because it makes you feel better about following "talking points".



Also, fentanyl deaths were on a rise since 1999. It was at an all time high under Trump and now at a higher level under Biden. Instead of acknowledging that we have to find away to stop it. You guys make it a democrat problem. The data shows it was a problem under Trump. The reason why you make it a Biden problem...talking points!

NO, NO, NO..WE do not make it a democrat problem, Mr OPEN BORDER MADE it a democrat problem. Quit trying to blow smoke, son
 
You realize you claimed for months that CRT was invented by Republicans right?

And now you're a historian on the subject?

How does CRT in the 60's differ from what's taught today? Where was CRT taught before the 2020's and where is it taught now? How does this relate to Critical Theory and how has Critical Theory been used in communist countries...for example, China?

Researching the answers these questions will help you understand CRT much better.
I never said that it was invented by the right. NEVER. I said the right invented the uproar against it by making it their racial boogeyman.

CRT didn't change. Chris Rufo tested out criticizing it on fox. It gained traction, then he went to the heritage foundation and did a presentation there. The heritage likes the idea, they then meet with multiple republican people with a plan to weaponize it and get people like you upset about it. I'm sure you knew that already 😏.

People who took the original class with Dr. Bell already said that it's the same and the right is mischaracterizing it.
 
NO, NO, NO..WE do not make it a democrat problem, Mr OPEN BORDER MADE it a democrat problem. Quit trying to blow smoke, son
Were you upset when it was at an all time high from 2016-2020? Were you criticizing Trump about it?
 
Were you upset when it was at an all time high from 2016-2020? Were you criticizing Trump about it?
Let me educate you AGAIN, son....DEMOCRATS voted down the building of the wall. If the wall were built today, we would not be having this problem. EVERY dim is a liar. They said "WALLS DO NOT WORK" which is a TOTAL lie. Hence...we have a serious drug problem. And the Fentanyl decreased when his policies were enacted after the left voted down the wall.
 
I was wrong. It was around in the 60s. You want to believe that it wasn't around or changed because it makes you feel better about following "talking points".



Also, fentanyl deaths were on a rise since 1999. It was at an all time high under Trump and now at a higher level under Biden. Instead of acknowledging that we have to find away to stop it. You guys make it a democrat problem. The data shows it was a problem under Trump. The reason why you make it a Biden problem...talking points!

While it's true Fentanyl deaths have been on the rise, I want you to use your Big Pharma brain and look at some trends.

What you posted was all overdoses, not just Fent. This chart is just Fent. You see how the slope flattens during the Trump years? You see how it's steeper starting in 2021?

Now, look at Border Control encounters. How does that correlate with Fent deaths?

Strange how there seems to be a strong correlation between open borders and spikes in Fent deaths...

But I'm sure that's just a talking point.
 
Were you upset when it was at an all time high from 2016-2020? Were you criticizing Trump about it?
This isn't true.

Trump never got close to levels seen in the mid to late 90's.


But if you knew this, aren't you just spewing liberal talking points?

You should really try to digress more, it suits you.
 
I was wrong. It was around in the 60s.
It wasn't. Wikipedia is a site where 'editors' are allowed to write whatever they want about a topic. They can post inaccurate information and often do. For instance, the other day I was searching for archaeological evidence of the parting of the Red Sea. The top result was from Wikipedia, which claimed there was ZERO evidence that the Red Sea was ever parted. From any source.

The third source in results was a website that posted VIDEO from a dive done by archaeologist Ron Wyatt in 1978 where he found chariot wheels buried at the bottom of the Red Sea that were only used in 1446 BC, the exact time that Moses parted the Red Sea.

Wikipedia is for people like you that don't know anything about a topic, but want to be told how to think.
 
It is a talking point. Do you know what a talking point is?

Some education because it's clear that you struggle with politics.

A talking point is a topic given to people associated with a party to keep mentioning or it's given to media to use to criticize.
Wait...are you actually trying to pass off what you just googled as being your own knowledge?

LMAO! @BSC911 does the same thing, it doesn't work for him either.
 
You realize you claimed for months that CRT was invented by Republicans right?

And now you're a historian on the subject?

How does CRT in the 60's differ from what's taught today? Where was CRT taught before the 2020's and where is it taught now? How does this relate to Critical Theory and how has Critical Theory been used in communist countries...for example, China?

Researching the answers these questions will help you understand CRT much better.
I'll help. Critical theory was developed in the thirties in the western European Marxist tradition.

It was my understanding that Derrick Bell pioneered crt in the 1980s and it was post graduate level academic research and never meant to be implemented as policy.
 
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I never said that it was invented by the right. NEVER. I said the right invented the uproar against it by making it their racial boogeyman.

CRT didn't change. Chris Rufo tested out criticizing it on fox. It gained traction, then he went to the heritage foundation and did a presentation there. The heritage likes the idea, they then meet with multiple republican people with a plan to weaponize it and get people like you upset about it. I'm sure you knew that already 😏.

People who took the original class with Dr. Bell already said that it's the same and the right is mischaracterizing it.
Wow...so one guy at a school board meeting started all of this? He's powerful.

Here you admit to ignorance on the subject but - even though you don't know anything about it - you know the right is lying about it. So to be fair, you didn't claim Republicans "invented" it but you were again back to blaming the Right for hysteria even though you didn't have the information to make that determination...so very "independent" of you.

I seriously don't know much about it and I haven't looked to gain more information. I just know that what the right wing is saying isn't accurate. Politicians always lie about these things on both sides 🙄.

Do you agree that every white person is an oppressor and every POC is oppressed? Do you agree that the only way to combat past racism is future racism?
 
Wow...so one guy at a school board meeting started all of this? He's powerful.

Here you admit to ignorance on the subject but - even though you don't know anything about it - you know the right is lying about it. So to be fair, you didn't claim Republicans "invented" it but you were again back to blaming the Right for hysteria even though you didn't have the information to make that determination...so very "independent" of you.



Do you agree that every white person is an oppressor and every POC is oppressed? Do you agree that the only way to combat past racism is future racism?
I didn't have the information THEN. I have the information NOW. I did research on it my friend.

No, Rufo is a conservative activist 🙄. He even written articles about how he started the anti-CRT movement. But I'm sure you knew that.

CRT does not teach that white people are oppressors. It teaches that race plays a role in everything within America and everything was designed to benefit white people and always will. It just spoke to systems. He bases that off of the FACT that every founding document was invented by white men with zero input by minorities. That was also the belief of Malcolm X. That's why Malcolm believed it's best black people leave America and give it back to it's founders and developers... white men.

Now, do I agree that it will always benefit the white man, no. I do believe that we need to make more changes though.
 
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CRT does not teach that white people are oppressors. It teaches that race plays a role in everything within America and everything was designed to benefit white people and always will. It just spoke to systems.
No, it speaks to emotional people who lack critical thinking skills.

Just because all the founding fathers were white men doesn't mean that they crafted systems to benefit white men. Their race was as meaningless to their decision making as their gender was.

Their only focus was building a nation better than the one they left. Learn your history.
 
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I didn't have the information THEN. I have the information NOW. I did research on it my friend.

No, Rufo is a conservative activist 🙄. He even written articles about how he started the anti-CRT movement. But I'm sure you knew that.

CRT does not teach that white people are oppressors. It teaches that race plays a role in everything within America and everything was designed to benefit white people and always will. It just spoke to systems. He bases that off of the FACT that every founding document was invented by white men with zero input by minorities. That was also the belief of Malcolm X. That's why Malcolm believed it's best black people leave America and give it back it, founders and developers... white men.

Now, do I agree that it will always benefit the white man, no. I do believe that we need to make more changes though.
WRONG again...you would think you would post correct info at least SOME time
 
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I didn't have the information THEN. I have the information NOW. I did research on it my friend.
So before you spoke on a topic without having any information on it? And now you think you are informed?

Curious, how is it that a guy that claims to work in R&D, who claims to always do his research, by his own admission doesn't know what he's talking about half the time? cc @gatordad3
 
I didn't have the information THEN. I have the information NOW. I did research on it my friend.

No, Rufo is a conservative activist 🙄. He even written articles about how he started the anti-CRT movement. But I'm sure you knew that.

CRT does not teach that white people are oppressors. It teaches that race plays a role in everything within America and everything was designed to benefit white people and always will. It just spoke to systems. He bases that off of the FACT that every founding document was invented by white men with zero input by minorities. That was also the belief of Malcolm X. That's why Malcolm believed it's best black people leave America and give it back to it's founders and developers... white men.

Now, do I agree that it will always benefit the white man, no. I do believe that we need to make more changes though.
Have you ever heard of Ibram X. Kendi?
Surely he popped up in your research.

Do you know what he teaches?
 
WRONG again...you would think you would post correct info at least SOME time
Derek Bell never mentioned anything about white people being the oppressor.

Critical Race Theory, or CRT, is an academic and legal framework that denotes that systemic racism is part of American society — from education and housing to employment and healthcare. Critical Race Theory recognizes that racism is more than the result of individual bias and prejudice. It is embedded in laws, policies and institutions that uphold and reproduce racial inequalities. According to CRT, societal issues like Black Americans’ higher mortality rate, outsized exposure to police violence, the school-to-prison pipeline, denial of affordable housing, and the rates of the death of Black women in childbirth are not unrelated anomalies.
 
He doesn't even know how to cut and paste from a Wikipedia article without messing up the formatting. I just can't.

This is what 'I did my research' looks like to him.

This has all the trappings of a twentysomething who listened to a college instructor give an hour long lecture on a topic, then comes home and wants to lecture his parents on the topic as if he were now a master.

And @kalimgoodman I'll clue you in on a secret: All those societal problems that you alluded to blacks having to deal with in America aren't tied to systemic racism. They are tied to a breakdown of the traditional family unit in the black community. They are tied to an assault on the black father in the family, designed to break him from the mother of his children, to prevent him from marrying her and raising a happy and healthy family.

And as I said, the culprit isn't 'systemic racism'. It's.....wait for it......your party.


"The majority of black babies are being born to single mothers—a prescription for a life of poverty and crime. And despite the warnings that have sounded off loudly for over half a century, Democrats have done nothing to stop blacks, their most steadfast constituents, from having babies they can’t take care of. This problem has perpetuated itself for generations, producing generational poverty among blacks.

If black lives truly matter, as Democrats shout at the top of their lungs, why don’t they promulgate policies that encourage blacks to get married before they have kids?

Blacks’ voting overwhelmingly for Democrats over the past half century is the quintessential definition of political suicide."


@kalimgoodman do you know how many blacks have been killed in this country in the last 50 years due to violent crime? Over 300,000.

During that same time frame, cancer and heart disease have combined to claim the lives of another almost 4 million blacks.

@kalimgoodman do you know how many blacks have died to abortion?

14 million.

Democrats push abortion because they want to break down the black family. Because if the family unit is broken down, then all its members will be more dependent on the US government for survival.

Which the dems believe will translate into votes.

You are still young, and obviously still dumb. You will grow up, and you have a chance to grow smarter.

But if you continue to blindly defend dems, you are doing so at the harm of your claimed black community.

@RayGravesGhost I know you are reading this, so this goes to you too.
 
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Ask KalimGoodman how HIS party, in just 30 years, went from Bill Clinton saying abortion should be safe, legal and RARE, to a party that celebrates abortion with ZERO restrictions, even to the ghoulish extreme of killing a baby that has survived the abortion.
I can tell you his answer will be his robotic rebuttal of "talking points".
 
Ask KalimGoodman how HIS party, in just 30 years, went from Bill Clinton saying abortion should be safe, legal and RARE, to a party that celebrates abortion with ZERO restrictions, even to the ghoulish extreme of killing a baby that has survived the abortion.
I can tell you his answer will be his robotic rebuttal of "talking points".
They run AWAY FAST from factual conversations. Just hide like the little pansy azzes that they are. As I always say...lefties need to NEVER be allowed to discuss manly things. They do not understand them at all. (unless you think "man" buns are manly) No firearm talk...no how to win a war talk. They are clueless about subjects like these...and ANYTHING to do with the Constitution of the United States of America.
 
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He doesn't even know how to cut and paste from a Wikipedia article without messing up the formatting. I just can't.

This is what 'I did my research' looks like to him.

This has all the trappings of a twentysomething who listened to a college instructor give an hour long lecture on a topic, then comes home and wants to lecture his parents on the topic as if he were now a master.

And @kalimgoodman I'll clue you in on a secret: All those societal problems that you alluded to blacks having to deal with in America aren't tied to systemic racism. They are tied to a breakdown of the traditional family unit in the black community. They are tied to an assault on the black father in the family, designed to break him from the mother of his children, to prevent him from marrying her and raising a happy and healthy family.

And as I said, the culprit isn't 'systemic racism'. It's.....wait for it......your party.


"The majority of black babies are being born to single mothers—a prescription for a life of poverty and crime. And despite the warnings that have sounded off loudly for over half a century, Democrats have done nothing to stop blacks, their most steadfast constituents, from having babies they can’t take care of. This problem has perpetuated itself for generations, producing generational poverty among blacks.

If black lives truly matter, as Democrats shout at the top of their lungs, why don’t they promulgate policies that encourage blacks to get married before they have kids?

Blacks’ voting overwhelmingly for Democrats over the past half century is the quintessential definition of political suicide."


@kalimgoodman do you know how many blacks have been killed in this country in the last 50 years due to violent crime? Over 300,000.

During that same time frame, cancer and heart disease have combined to claim the lives of another almost 4 million blacks.

@kalimgoodman do you know how many blacks have died to abortion?

14 million.

Democrats push abortion because they want to break down the black family. Because if the family unit is broken down, then all its members will be more dependent on the US government for survival.

Which the dems believe will translate into votes.

You are still young, and obviously still dumb. You will grow up, and you have a chance to grow smarter.

But if you continue to blindly defend dems, you are doing so at the harm of your claimed black community.

@RayGravesGhost I know you are reading this, so this goes to you too.
I used to sit on the porch swing in south Lawton with the original Whitney Houston. We greeted her father at 5:30 when her father came home from work. Black fathers came home from work all up and down the street. Then we got LBJ's War On Poverty.
 
Yea, I really hated an inflation rate of 1.4% and gas less than 2.50 a gallon and a relatively closed southern border and a president shaming Europe to pay their damn fair share of Nato dues, etc, etc, etc. Who would want any of that.
Monetary policy works with a long and variable lag but here is a hint you print more dollahs and yo dollah be worth less. Rocket science I know. Here is another interesting FACT total dollahs increased close to 50% from 2020 through 2021. So the MAFF
 
They run AWAY FAST from factual conversations. Just hide like the little pansy azzes that they are. As I always say...lefties need to NEVER be allowed to discuss manly things. They do not understand them at all. (unless you think "man" buns are manly) No firearm talk...no how to win a war talk. They are clueless about subjects like these...and ANYTHING to do with the Constitution of the United States of America.
This is true it is also true that the retardicans have gone from fiscal cons to fiscal radical spenders aka trunptards
 
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Ask KalimGoodman how HIS party, in just 30 years, went from Bill Clinton saying abortion should be safe, legal and RARE, to a party that celebrates abortion with ZERO restrictions, even to the ghoulish extreme of killing a baby that has survived the abortion.
I can tell you his answer will be his robotic rebuttal of "talking points".
Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood, was an open eugenicist. For @kalimgoodman, that means she viewed abortion as a tool she could use to eradicate the black race from the planet.

hildabeast called her one of her heroes.

These are your people.
 
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