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The Boss is SOOOO BACK!!!!!

There would be no need for lawyers if no interpretation was needed.

From your mouth to God's ears. 😋

I kid the lawyers...but they are damn frustrating sometimes. I can't tell you how often we hear...

"I know you're right but..."

If you know I'm right, why is there a but?
 
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Not paying bail is not breaking the law. You pay bail to stay out of jail until found guilty at trial.
You're right, brain fart on my part. But getting arrested creates a spectacle, I think he needs to just pay it, point out how ridiculous her reasoning is that he's a flight risk, and move on.
 
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Bongino thinks Trump should force their hands and NOT PAY and make them come and arrest him and take him to jail. Said then the secret service would basically have to take over the jail. Most if not all the criminals in the jail would then need to be moved.
I keep getting beat to the punch today...teach me to do actual work.

I agree with this 100% but not for reasons given above...think about the martyr they'd create. Force the fascists to put up or shut up. Watch the public reaction. Even moderates would be appalled at the weaponization.

I think it would be a way to expedite the turning point in all of this. The groundswell would be immense.
 
Not paying bail is not breaking the law. You pay bail to stay out of jail until found guilty at trial.

Bail is securing a promise that you will show up to court. Is there anyone who actually thinks Trump won't show up to court? He's chomping at the bit for his day in court.

This is a vitriolic Democrat, who happens to be a DA, playing games for political points. She’s abusing the system with which she pledged to uphold.
 
What if a Democrat does something that you don't view as illegal but the party in power does...so they prosecute their chief political opponent?

Still good precedent?

You do understand that people interpret laws differently, right? From a law enforcement perspective, learning the law is actually pretty damn easy. The application of law, the literal translation from word to practice...that's somewhat trickier and more nuanced.

This is horrible precedent. If you can't admit that much, there's no sense in us carrying on this conversation.
That's the point of view you take when you know your guys is on the wrong side of the law.
 
That's the point of view you take when you know your guys is on the wrong side of the law.
Millions of grift coming from China, Ukraine, Hungary and who else?
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That's the point of view you take when you know your guys is on the wrong side of the law.
No that's the point of view you take when you put the law above your politics. That's why it's confusing you.

Your spin is that Trump broke the law....but somehow Fani Willis decided to wait 3 years to indict him??? Dude.
 
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I keep getting beat to the punch today...teach me to do actual work.

I agree with this 100% but not for reasons given above...think about the martyr they'd create. Force the fascists to put up or shut up. Watch the public reaction. Even moderates would be appalled at the weaponization.

I think it would be a way to expedite the turning point in all of this. The groundswell would be immense.
I will say that I do think eventually he will be arrested and eventually he WILL sit in a jail cell.

Anyone that thinks the 2024 election will go off without a hitch with Trump on the ballot isn't paying attention.
 
Still VACCINATING RSV babies since the 90’s with that “vaccine” that wasn’t actually a vaccine? Or did you go back in time to treat them with a vax that went into clinical

trials 2 weeks prior to you posting it?



https://florida.forums.rivals.com/t...and-vaccine-thread.104608/page-3#post-2007469








@armbar73



This is an important topic. One the nation is reeling with. Trust of our medical professionals after Covid.



Since I couldn’t respond in the other thread, but someone opened the window here. I had family in the medical industry at the time read his nonsense about what he said he was doing. VACCINATING infants for RSV. They just shook their head and said, “someone isn’t telling the truth about something”.



What happened is he got caught. Said he had been vaccinating infants for RSV since the 90’s. See first link. In the context here, he did so as a means of trying to manipulate ones belief that covid vaccines were safe. Then when he got called out, he tried to double down, but did it in a very disingenuous manner. He changed it to a monoclonal treatment (which actually would work against his argument), but then posted a link to a RSV vaccine that had been in clinical phase 1 trials for 2 weeks. (See 2nd link)



Now you see why I condensed my post in the other thread. (Unapproved treatment) Sorry, but this is an important topic. There is massive distrust in our medical communities right now, and IMO it’s because of behaviors like the above. Instead of swallowing pride, dr’s doubled down. And the Above is the perfect example for the distrust. You don’t win that trust back by continuing these behaviors.



Why is that important? Because there are certain occupations (police, military, medical, firefighters etc) where a certain standard of behavior SHOULD be observed and maintained. I realize there are bad apples in each, but that’s the point here.



Let’s use @BamaFan1137 as an example (my apologies sir) A police officer. IMO, a good apple. He and I have had many heated debates on here, but he has never done the following that I am aware…



  1. Mislead intentionally
  2. Doubled down on that behavior when he found it he was wrong or misstated something.
  3. Attempted to manipulate an opinion, using false information about his work.
  4. Used said false information in direct conflict of interest with the oath he took to manipulate behavior for his own benefit. (To try and prove a message board point). So he could be….right.


Whether you are a dr, military, police officer etc…We all take different Oaths of service. One that while we serve are very important. And when one doesn’t act in a manner consistent with that oath, it breaks public trust. No different than a police officer or service member that abuses their power. It’s wrong and does damage. Dr’s are not exempt from blowback when they do something wrong. For me, a police officer or service member that abuses power aren’t officers or military. They are just gangsters with a badge. No different than a dr who does that. They aren’t doctors when they put their own personal pride above the treatment of their patients.





 
Still VACCINATING RSV babies since the 90’s with that “vaccine” that wasn’t actually a vaccine? Or did you go back in time to treat them with a vax that went into clinical

trials 2 weeks prior to you posting it?



https://florida.forums.rivals.com/t...and-vaccine-thread.104608/page-3#post-2007469








@armbar73



This is an important topic. One the nation is reeling with. Trust of our medical professionals after Covid.



Since I couldn’t respond in the other thread, but someone opened the window here. I had family in the medical industry at the time read his nonsense about what he said he was doing. VACCINATING infants for RSV. They just shook their head and said, “someone isn’t telling the truth about something”.



What happened is he got caught. Said he had been vaccinating infants for RSV since the 90’s. See first link. In the context here, he did so as a means of trying to manipulate ones belief that covid vaccines were safe. Then when he got called out, he tried to double down, but did it in a very disingenuous manner. He changed it to a monoclonal treatment (which actually would work against his argument), but then posted a link to a RSV vaccine that had been in clinical phase 1 trials for 2 weeks. (See 2nd link)



Now you see why I condensed my post in the other thread. (Unapproved treatment) Sorry, but this is an important topic. There is massive distrust in our medical communities right now, and IMO it’s because of behaviors like the above. Instead of swallowing pride, dr’s doubled down. And the Above is the perfect example for the distrust. You don’t win that trust back by continuing these behaviors.



Why is that important? Because there are certain occupations (police, military, medical, firefighters etc) where a certain standard of behavior SHOULD be observed and maintained. I realize there are bad apples in each, but that’s the point here.



Let’s use @BamaFan1137 as an example (my apologies sir) A police officer. IMO, a good apple. He and I have had many heated debates on here, but he has never done the following that I am aware…



  1. Mislead intentionally
  2. Doubled down on that behavior when he found it he was wrong or misstated something.
  3. Attempted to manipulate an opinion, using false information about his work.
  4. Used said false information in direct conflict of interest with the oath he took to manipulate behavior for his own benefit. (To try and prove a message board point). So he could be….right.


Whether you are a dr, military, police officer etc…We all take different Oaths of service. One that while we serve are very important. And when one doesn’t act in a manner consistent with that oath, it breaks public trust. No different than a police officer or service member that abuses their power. It’s wrong and does damage. Dr’s are not exempt from blowback when they do something wrong. For me, a police officer or service member that abuses power aren’t officers or military. They are just gangsters with a badge. No different than a dr who does that. They aren’t doctors when they put their own personal pride above the treatment of their patients.






For the record, my intent wasn’t to you call out or defend/attack 1776. I don’t really have a dog in that fight. My only point was that just because something is approved or cleared doesn’t mean that it cannot or should not be used.


For perspective, I’ve worked on the industry side of medical for the last 19 years, specifically in medical devices used to treat bony defects (basically plates and screws for fractures). I’ve been on teams that developed medical devices from concept to clearance to implantation and been in the OR more times than I can count.

That being said, I agree with you. There is a credibility problem within the medical community and government based on what has happened over the last three years. Like any profession, there are people that are excellent at their job and others that are not.

My opinion is that it is foolish for anyone to not have an active role in their health. A lot of doctors trained to treat to symptoms, see something wrong, fix something wrong. In many cases this a very effective treatment method, specifically for something like a broken bone. For some conditions it is not, specifically when it involves a drug. Pharma has zero incentive to treat the cause and every incentive to treat the symptom. It’s their business model. They make money on the patient being on their drug for a lifetime.

IMO, the single biggest health issue is this country is obesity. It is the catalyst for so many other issues.
 
For the record, my intent wasn’t to you call out or defend/attack 1776. I don’t really have a dog in that fight. My only point was that just because something is approved or cleared doesn’t mean that it cannot or should not be used.


For perspective, I’ve worked on the industry side of medical for the last 19 years, specifically in medical devices used to treat bony defects (basically plates and screws for fractures). I’ve been on teams that developed medical devices from concept to clearance to implantation and been in the OR more times than I can count.

That being said, I agree with you. There is a credibility problem within the medical community and government based on what has happened over the last three years. Like any profession, there are people that are excellent at their job and others that are not.

My opinion is that it is foolish for anyone to not have an active role in their health. A lot of doctors trained to treat to symptoms, see something wrong, fix something wrong. In many cases this a very effective treatment method, specifically for something like a broken bone. For some conditions it is not, specifically when it involves a drug. Pharma has zero incentive to treat the cause and every incentive to treat the symptom. It’s their business model. They make money on the patient being on their drug for a lifetime.

IMO, the single biggest health issue is this country is obesity. It is the catalyst for so many other issues.
Yep. Agree with you.

Just wanted to provide context, and to show why it was easier to just type up the small summary rather than the Bible that I just did. 😉

Those around at the time were aware of the context. My apologies for not providing that.
 
Yep. Agree with you.

Just wanted to provide context, and to show why it was easier to just type up the small summary rather than the Bible that I just did. 😉

Those around at the time were aware of the context. My apologies for not providing that.
All good.

I’ll also add. I’m fortunate in this business to have a bunch of contacts. If I need a good recommendation outside of the specialities I work with I can ask around and get one. Most people don’t and that makes it hard to determine what is good advice or information and what is not.

It is especially hard on a message board where people may or may not be truthful.
 
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For the record, my intent wasn’t to you call out or defend/attack 1776. I don’t really have a dog in that fight. My only point was that just because something is approved or cleared doesn’t mean that it cannot or should not be used.


For perspective, I’ve worked on the industry side of medical for the last 19 years, specifically in medical devices used to treat bony defects (basically plates and screws for fractures). I’ve been on teams that developed medical devices from concept to clearance to implantation and been in the OR more times than I can count.

That being said, I agree with you. There is a credibility problem within the medical community and government based on what has happened over the last three years. Like any profession, there are people that are excellent at their job and others that are not.

My opinion is that it is foolish for anyone to not have an active role in their health. A lot of doctors trained to treat to symptoms, see something wrong, fix something wrong. In many cases this a very effective treatment method, specifically for something like a broken bone. For some conditions it is not, specifically when it involves a drug. Pharma has zero incentive to treat the cause and every incentive to treat the symptom. It’s their business model. They make money on the patient being on their drug for a lifetime.

IMO, the single biggest health issue is this country is obesity. It is the catalyst for so many other issues.
Ambar..we have MANY that claim to be independents here on this board. Your well thought out responses make me believe you are mostly independent. 99% of The others are just liars
 
Still VACCINATING RSV babies since the 90’s with that “vaccine” that wasn’t actually a vaccine? Or did you go back in time to treat them with a vax that went into clinical

trials 2 weeks prior to you posting it?



https://florida.forums.rivals.com/t...and-vaccine-thread.104608/page-3#post-2007469








@armbar73



This is an important topic. One the nation is reeling with. Trust of our medical professionals after Covid.



Since I couldn’t respond in the other thread, but someone opened the window here. I had family in the medical industry at the time read his nonsense about what he said he was doing. VACCINATING infants for RSV. They just shook their head and said, “someone isn’t telling the truth about something”.



What happened is he got caught. Said he had been vaccinating infants for RSV since the 90’s. See first link. In the context here, he did so as a means of trying to manipulate ones belief that covid vaccines were safe. Then when he got called out, he tried to double down, but did it in a very disingenuous manner. He changed it to a monoclonal treatment (which actually would work against his argument), but then posted a link to a RSV vaccine that had been in clinical phase 1 trials for 2 weeks. (See 2nd link)



Now you see why I condensed my post in the other thread. (Unapproved treatment) Sorry, but this is an important topic. There is massive distrust in our medical communities right now, and IMO it’s because of behaviors like the above. Instead of swallowing pride, dr’s doubled down. And the Above is the perfect example for the distrust. You don’t win that trust back by continuing these behaviors.



Why is that important? Because there are certain occupations (police, military, medical, firefighters etc) where a certain standard of behavior SHOULD be observed and maintained. I realize there are bad apples in each, but that’s the point here.



Let’s use @BamaFan1137 as an example (my apologies sir) A police officer. IMO, a good apple. He and I have had many heated debates on here, but he has never done the following that I am aware…



  1. Mislead intentionally
  2. Doubled down on that behavior when he found it he was wrong or misstated something.
  3. Attempted to manipulate an opinion, using false information about his work.
  4. Used said false information in direct conflict of interest with the oath he took to manipulate behavior for his own benefit. (To try and prove a message board point). So he could be….right.


Whether you are a dr, military, police officer etc…We all take different Oaths of service. One that while we serve are very important. And when one doesn’t act in a manner consistent with that oath, it breaks public trust. No different than a police officer or service member that abuses their power. It’s wrong and does damage. Dr’s are not exempt from blowback when they do something wrong. For me, a police officer or service member that abuses power aren’t officers or military. They are just gangsters with a badge. No different than a dr who does that. They aren’t doctors when they put their own personal pride above the treatment of their patients.






Thought provoking.

FWIW, the oath I took means a great deal to me.

There have been times on this board where I've pulled back on the reins, and not shared my full opinion, because of the conflicts between my personal opinion, my own self-interests and the oath that I took. And that's OK...that's part of my job and my responsibility.

I'd like to cite examples but honestly even doing that would tend to push up against that oath and that's not something that I'd be willing to do.

I will support and defend the constitution of my state and the United States, as I promised to do....period. Where it gets tricky is when there's a conflict within that oath, where the documents that I swore to defend and our leaders come into conflict. The documents themselves give power to those leaders but do they give those leaders the right to circumvent the documents?

This crap isn't for the feint of heart. I've come to the conclusion that the documents don't empower man to supercede the documents...but it's a minefield. I'll proceed accordingly and it's worth it.
 
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For the record, my intent wasn’t to you call out or defend/attack 1776. I don’t really have a dog in that fight. My only point was that just because something is approved or cleared doesn’t mean that it cannot or should not be used.


For perspective, I’ve worked on the industry side of medical for the last 19 years, specifically in medical devices used to treat bony defects (basically plates and screws for fractures). I’ve been on teams that developed medical devices from concept to clearance to implantation and been in the OR more times than I can count.

That being said, I agree with you. There is a credibility problem within the medical community and government based on what has happened over the last three years. Like any profession, there are people that are excellent at their job and others that are not.

My opinion is that it is foolish for anyone to not have an active role in their health. A lot of doctors trained to treat to symptoms, see something wrong, fix something wrong. In many cases this a very effective treatment method, specifically for something like a broken bone. For some conditions it is not, specifically when it involves a drug. Pharma has zero incentive to treat the cause and every incentive to treat the symptom. It’s their business model. They make money on the patient being on their drug for a lifetime.

IMO, the single biggest health issue is this country is obesity. It is the catalyst for so many other issues.
My problem with the vaccine is the side effects how can we know all of them in such short order? They basically rushed out to mandate a product that was literally only a few months old. This is malpractice in my opinion.
 
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